Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Jeremy
Sounds like a cool device. Excited to see the finished project. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > It is the mixed rail that seems to be the interesting part. I have been > asked multiple times. > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 8:50 PM > *To:* af@

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Yep And the lesser publicized facts well known on the other side of the world in regards to the Iraq WMD' are ... "Well, how do we know they have WMD's. Well because we supplied the Centerfuges and all the stuff to make those WMD's (so that Iraq could use those against the Iranians)..

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
It is the mixed rail that seems to be the interesting part. I have been asked multiple times. From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question In all honesty, we won't ever use it. Remote power control per device/radio via one Pac

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread George Skorup
In all honesty, we won't ever use it. Remote power control per device/radio via one PacketFlux device or another is what we do everywhere. I'm sure someone will use it, so don't take my narrow-minded opinion to heart. I do have one question about the APC cards. Would it be possible to flip t

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, it is an alternate form factor. May as well spill the beans. Something Gino asked for a couple of years ago but never found the solution until recently. I have a 24 position rack mount, same size as the 4 position DIN I sell now. I am putting a power back plane in it. It will have 4 sepa

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hi. Inside the US military itself, China is considered an ally nation. Even this past year we decided to start holding joint land-based exercises with them - previously they were limited to naval exercises. It's an opportunity to test co-readiness (ally full spectrum operations), as well as judge

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Bunch of people had the NDA the last swing. We'll see in August! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > GA before August was the bet. Also, NDA prevents a lot :) > > On Mon, Mar 21,

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread George Skorup
Yep, agreed. Chuck, if you're going to put some kind of current protection device on the GigE-POE-APC card, then I agree with Josh, just make it 5x20mm. We have a brazillion of those in 1, 3 and 5 amp. On 3/21/2016 8:07 PM, Jeremy wrote: I am perfectly happy with the GIGE-POE-APC the way it is

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
GA before August was the bet. Also, NDA prevents a lot :) On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Pretty sure if sync was working every mailing list would have kerploaded. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Rory, Your first paragraph reads as I did not say it.. but I did say it ... The fact that you look at all this as stuff as being , they want to destroy us, simply makes my case of you buying into the FUD and spreading it. How about taking a more sensible approach. People of the World

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Jeremy
The lube and the uranium were funny, but it was the Q&A and comments that made it PURE GOLD. LMAO. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Trump's not corrupt? He's padded the pockets of both parties so he could > have political backing on certain business ventures. He's replace

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Pretty sure if sync was working every mailing list would have kerploaded. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You'd be out $500 but you never agreed before the show :/ > On Mar 21

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
You'd be out $500 but you never agreed before the show :/ On Mar 21, 2016 8:07 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Oh that's right. What should I expect to win? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:53

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Trump's not corrupt? He's padded the pockets of both parties so he could have political backing on certain business ventures. He's replaced a lot of his larger staffing ventures with H1-B workers. He's been involved in almost 170 Federal lawsuits - most of which he's claimed extreme damages for med

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Jeremy
I am perfectly happy with the GIGE-POE-APC the way it is now. I haven't lost one in three years. Is this finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist? On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > It is also a POE inserter. > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Monday, March 21,

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh that's right. What should I expect to win? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > "What if my bet was GA before August and a sidebet on if it would sync > with AF5X given the sam

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
It is also a POE inserter. From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question Let a surge suppressor be a surge suppressor. I will handle the over-current externally (fuses, PacketFlux electronic, etc). On 3/21/2016 3:37 PM, Chuck McC

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
I didn’t say that the Chinese government has 99% of the companies under their thumb. However, they do in the areas of key technologies, solar, networking, cellular, and any company they discern to be critical to their military or economy. If they want to destroy a U.S. industry, they provide

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
"What if my bet was GA before August and a sidebet on if it would sync with AF5X given the same sync parameters (50/50,75/25,etc)?" On Mar 21, 2016 6:07 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > What was the bet exactly? Weren't you gambling that the sun would rise in > the west or a day is coming that doesn'

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
But if you think that 99% of the companies in this country have access to that data and are coordinated the same way that the Chinese government does it, then you are mistaken. The Chinese target industries and then get everyone on board, multiple companies and agencies, w

Re: [AFMUG] Luthman are you in Louisville?

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
What was the bet exactly? Weren't you gambling that the sun would rise in the west or a day is coming that doesn't end in "y"? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Yep I'm here >

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
No, not at all. There is official government policy and there is stuff that goes on illegally or we are never told. For example, do you really think that there is a full firewall between the FBI, the NSA, and local law enforcement so they don’t get your personal information. Then we find out

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Wow I'm glad you said that...I didn't realize this would double fuse my setups until then. Definitely a waste... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:40 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Let a surge suppressor be a s

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread George Skorup
Let a surge suppressor be a surge suppressor. I will handle the over-current externally (fuses, PacketFlux electronic, etc). On 3/21/2016 3:37 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I am coming to that conclusion I think. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Mon

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Maybe because the real ones are also made in China ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Eric Kuhnke" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Cisco makes it tempting for the counterfeiters by selling $25 worth of parts for $500. A whole router is probably more trouble to counterfeit for less profit. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview Yes, back in 2007 whe

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
That matches my recollection. The temperature derating is even worse. If you rate for say 1A hold current at 150F, you may end up with 2A or more hold current around 0F, with that 12 seconds being effectively at 4A when cold. About the only place I'll use a PTC fuse anymore is where there is n

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Yes, back in 2007 when they were new I'd heard from a few US government sources that there were chinese WIC and HWIC cards... Even rumors that the whole CIsco 2801/2811/2821 (which were pretty expensive new routers at that time) had been entirely copied by their Chinese contract manufacturer. I h

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Agreed. I was just giving examples of “modules”. Lots of Chisco WIC cards out there though. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview I really doubt anyone is counterfeiting PA modules for the 7206VXR considering how old

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, I am coming to that conclusion I think. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:32 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question You need to look at the curve on the polyfuse. Because the trip is related to heating which is related to current it will trip

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
12 seconds at double the hold current at room temp if I am reading the specs right. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question 12 seconds with a dead short, or 12 seconds when slightly over current? That might be two differen

Re: [AFMUG] OT Corny Video

2016-03-21 Thread Jay Weekley
Dixie State is definitely not where I thought it would be. Chuck McCown wrote: Got a small tour of Dixie State University yesterday. One of my sons is a student in the computer forensics program. Part of the Southwest Regional Computer Crime Institute. Had a fun conversation with him about

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy moving from 1 color code per tower to 1 color code per AP

2016-03-21 Thread Sean Heskett
cool, thanks for all the advise guys. I think i'm getting a better grip on how to tackle the project. one tower has 12 x PMP450s covering about 200* so lots of overlap. The other tower has 6 x PMP450s covering 160* on the 12 AP tower i think i'm going to leave the 2 outer APs on the current col

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
12 seconds with a dead short, or 12 seconds when slightly over current? That might be two different answers. On 3/21/2016 4:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, it does sound a bit pointless. *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 2:16 PM *To:* af@

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
You need to look at the curve on the polyfuse. Because the trip is related to heating which is related to current it will trip much faster in many circumstances. ... however the trip current varies widely with ambient temperature as well. I'm not convinced that you can actually find a polyfuse w

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy moving from 1 color code per tower to 1 color code per AP

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't think you need to reboot the SM's. When you shut off the omni, they will rescan. At step 5, Add the new color code as primary color code, and the current one as a secondary, then reboot SM. At step 6 reboot all AP's at the same time, but again no need to reboot the SM's. On 3/21/20

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy moving from 1 color code per tower to 1 color code per AP

2016-03-21 Thread Darren Shea
It’s been a while, but I remember my steps (going from one omni to multiple sectors) being like this: 1. Put up new sectors, but don’t turn on transmit 2. Set all new APs to the same color code as the omni. Grab a snapshot of all connected SMs from the omni 3. Reboot all SM’s (P

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, it does sound a bit pointless. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question 12 seconds for a fuse to pop??? How is that event a fuse. That sounds pointless. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wa

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
12 seconds for a fuse to pop??? How is that event a fuse. That sounds pointless. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The poe card would not be the cause, it would be the victim.

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
The poe card would not be the cause, it would be the victim. The AP or wiring would be the cause. The polyfuse I am looking at takes 12 seconds to blow. Trying to protect the power supply and other loads in parallel. Not sure if that is fast enough to be of great value. If one AP shorts ou

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Meh just replace the card if it's being troublesome. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 21, 2016 4:05 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Well, they have their downside. > A real fuse will be easier to notice when it is blown. > A poly f

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000796XXM/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_121_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=51LrKbS8ajL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C94_&refRID=1D7P8EXSA81VMW21P0RA On Mar 21, 2016 3:01 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > > http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO > > On Mo

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, they have their downside. A real fuse will be easier to notice when it is blown. A poly fuse just cuts the current way down. More of a troubleshooting issue than anything else. But, if a fuse is blown, then you have to fix the circuit and find a replacement fuse. I do have LEDs and b

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Cheaper to run a polyfuse...why bother asking??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Still leaning toward the polyfuse. Not a lot of room, fuses and fuse > holders are more money.

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Still leaning toward the polyfuse. Not a lot of room, fuses and fuse holders are more money. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question Most of ours are now the DIN-mounted double feed that uses the 5x20mm glass fuses. However

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > These things were at the bottom of that link... > > (I'm such a child) > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > My local grocery store ca

[AFMUG] OT Corny Video

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Got a small tour of Dixie State University yesterday. One of my sons is a student in the computer forensics program. Part of the Southwest Regional Computer Crime Institute. Had a fun conversation with him about cracking encryption. You really want a long random password if you do not want

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
Most of ours are now the DIN-mounted double feed that uses the 5x20mm glass fuses. However, we also have a few legacy sites that use the automotive blade fuses. If something new came along, we would use what it uses. bp On 3/21/2016 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: We already stock 5x20mm fuses

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Luthman
We already stock 5x20mm fuses so keeping with the same form factor would be nice. Anyone else using those same DIN clip fuse holders have the same. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Adam Moffett wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
I have no strong opinions sir, but if it's a replaceable fuse I do like the automotive blades because every gas station has them. On 3/21/2016 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am considering adding a fuse to a new version of my rack mount POE surge suppressors. I know many of you like PTC resett

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I really doubt anyone is counterfeiting PA modules for the 7206VXR considering how old the platform is. On Mar 20, 2016 5:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > WIC, NM, PA, etc. Plug in card for a modular router. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *

Re: [AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Jeremy
We use blade fuses on all of our sites. We fuse the dc before feeding it into the GIGE-POE-APC. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am considering adding a fuse to a new version of my rack mount POE surge > suppressors. > > I know many of you like PTC resettable solid stat

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
Thai curry is pretty amazing IMO. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Curry is gross. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > <

[AFMUG] Fuse question

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I am considering adding a fuse to a new version of my rack mount POE surge suppressors. I know many of you like PTC resettable solid state fuses. I don’t recall ever designing one in to anything. Maybe I did on a phone device years ago, but that would have been to satisfy a regulatory agency

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
I had mushy peas. Once. bp On 3/21/2016 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Well, duh, that’s because fish-and-chips and curry are the only edible foods prepared in England. Unless you consider things like toad-in-the-hole, bubble-and-squeak, bangers-and-mash, and mushy peas edible. I am convinced

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Curry is gross. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:18:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview Oye, Gov e

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
My local grocery store carries spotted dick in a can: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FP5K0U Take a look at Amazon's "customers who bought this also bought" recommendation. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I like mushy peas. Fresh off-the-boat North Atlantic cod fish and chips are the best. I’ll be having some late summer. Have to go to Cornwall for a grandson’s baptism. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview Well, du

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hey hey hey, there's nothing wrong with bangers and mash :( http://www.cookitsimply.com/recipe-0010-04s627.html :P On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Well, duh, that’s because fish-and-chips and curry are the only edible foods > prepared in England. Unless you consider things

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Well, duh, that’s because fish-and-chips and curry are the only edible foods prepared in England. Unless you consider things like toad-in-the-hole, bubble-and-squeak, bangers-and-mash, and mushy peas edible. I am convinced it comes from the English disdain for anything French. Good food would

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
*sigh* I need to go back to England sometime soon. I have a cousin that's a professor there. I miss the pubs, the architecture, the history, the fish and chips... The curry was pretty good too ;) On Mar 21, 2016 1:07 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/30926.st

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/30926.stm :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Josh Reynolds" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, March

Re: [AFMUG] OT: cool truck

2016-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
Was that chapel in a Sergio Leon movie? bp On 3/21/2016 10:53 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: My cousins Fargo with a Suburban diesel engine and 4 x 4 undercarriage... which will be installed this week! Chapel in back was built by grandfather in 1922!!! We are restoring my grandparents Adobe h

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
When is their giga-factory coming online? I'm suspecting they will be selling more batteries in terms of revenue than cars. bp On 3/21/2016 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Not nearly sure as I am of TSLA, up 14% in the last three weeks. I am betting it takes a big jump at the end of the month

Re: [AFMUG] OT: cool truck

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Seems like they made a movie about that chapel. Some nuns and a black guy... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:53 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT: cool truck My cousins Fargo with a Suburban diesel engine and 4 x 4 undercarriage... which will be installed this week!

Re: [AFMUG] Winbox 3.3

2016-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
I've not seen anything like that (crashing). It's been stable. Operates a little differently than 2.x, and I've seen some compatibility between it and 2.x. So maybe if we just switch everything over to 3.x it's OK? The weirdness has mostly come inter-operating with mac-winbox, and who knows for

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Curry? Well, yeah... That's like, just your opinion, man. On Mar 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > Oye, Gov everything is changing... > Wat eef I said I like my scones with curry ! > > that'll blow some minds ! > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Stree

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
You should bet copies of your books. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Because I am less sure of winning than you are. But certainly willing to bet if I get odds. How sure are you??? ;-) From: Travis Johnson Sen

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
just like you know who bp On 3/21/2016 9:51 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: yeah, and everybody is moving to canada too. what people say they will do, and what they actually do arent even part of the same sport

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement

2016-03-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Send them to me too if you don’t mind! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement That would be helpful if you wouldn't mind. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:44 PM, LD Bart

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement

2016-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
That would be helpful if you wouldn't mind. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:44 PM, LD Barthlome wrote: > I could send you ours > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:04 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fiber Instal

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement

2016-03-21 Thread LD Barthlome
I could send you ours From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement Anyone have one of these they would be able to share? I thought Chuck Hogg posted one a while back, but I

[AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Not nearly sure as I am of TSLA, up 14% in the last three weeks. I am betting it takes a big jump at the end of the month too. Sometimes I guess right on a gamble. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Because I a

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement

2016-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
Just an agreement for installation at the customer's location - to explain what you're doing, what it is for, and have in writing that both sides understand. It could be part of a general contract as well I suppose... On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > What exactly wou

Re: [AFMUG] Winbox 3.3

2016-03-21 Thread George Skorup
3.3 seems to be working fine for me on everything, even the 5.25/26 routers out there. No menu issues. Windows 10 on all of my machines. I'm surprised, really expected it to be crashing or something else stupid. On 3/21/2016 10:05 AM, Christopher Tyler wrote: I'm running 3.1 mostly without iss

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Because I am less sure of winning than you are. But certainly willing to bet if I get odds. How sure are you??? ;-) From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Why would I give you odds? $100 bet, clean and simple. :) Tr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Why would I give you odds? $100 bet, clean and simple. :) Travis On 3/21/2016 11:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah but I want odds. 2:1? *From:* Travis Johnson *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump i

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Ha! That is a good one. I wonder, has Trump ever punched it out with anyone ever? I just don’t see a rich kid having much opportunity to do that... unless he is a bully, but that would be beating someone up while the toadys hold him, not a fair fight. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, March

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
After all, we are the only state that has ever sent a Black Republican Woman to congress. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah I won’t take that bet because I’m not sure what exactly will happen in a Trump/Hilla

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I won’t take that bet because I’m not sure what exactly will happen in a Trump/Hillary matchup. It’s the worst case scenario for many of us. Tomorrow’s caucus vote will tell us more, but I would still be unsure of the actual outcome. I would like to think being a Woman isn’t an issue. I haven’

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Rory, Are you that Naive to think and believe that our Country, the standards bearer of the Capitalistic system in the World, behaves in the best interest of the Gov and Or the People ? and not in the Best Interest of the Corporate Economic Engine that drives everything ? Dude, I am floored

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah but I want odds. 2:1? From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless of the candidate? Travis On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: So, a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
People tend to have an incorrect view of Mormons, lumping them with all other “conservatives”. But remember many Mormons go on missions to other countries, leading to more nuanced views than your typical ‘Merican. Historically they experienced religious persecution so they tend not to like dis

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Installation Agreement

2016-03-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
What exactly would this be for? We have worked an agreement with the city for franchise rights to build in PUE. We have another template agreement for the HOA board to sign for easement access on their property. There should probably be an agreement for easement/ROW into private property as we

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Travis Johnson
I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless of the candidate? Travis On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: So, are you giving odds? I have $100. *From:* Travis Johnson *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
LOL !... and just for the record.. I like my scones with Heavy Butter, Jam and Jelly... in any order :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "C

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
So, are you giving odds? I have $100. From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we will never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I was doing an over-the-top mash up of ISIS and refugees. He said not to allow Muslims into the country. He said he would kill the families of ISIS. Like I said, I was being hyperbolic. Just like him. ISIS is like cancer. The kind that spreads when you cut it out. Kill one and make 10 m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we will never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states will be Red... as always. I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties for a LONG time... let each candidate say what he will do on every sub

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
not calling you a dolt, btw On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:54 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > you disappoint me chuck. he never said muslims, he said isis, kind of a > slight difference there. You took the spoon and drank the koolaid with it, > might as well just drink

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you disappoint me chuck. he never said muslims, he said isis, kind of a slight difference there. You took the spoon and drank the koolaid with it, might as well just drink from the cup :-) And seriously, with isis (which is kind of a family affair) you realistically do need to eliminate three gene

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Unfortunately you are most likely right about one thing. We will probably get to observe him in the general election. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Yeah, it is. Youll see the formal representation in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
yeah, and everybody is moving to canada too. what people say they will do, and what they actually do arent even part of the same sport On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if Trump is GOP > candidate. > > > > Have you

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-21 Thread Dennis Burgess
Lots of ways :) well a few.. but no, there are other options :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems For those of you doing hotels, or anything

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
Odd, that's the same reason that I think Trump is currently doing well. On Monday, March 21, 2016, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > Thats the deal with trump, they take whatever he says, no matter how he > says it, and try to spin it in a negative factor. This is only possible > because the majori

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I don’t know if I could command my hands to press the Hillary button. My DNA will rebel. But I sure will not be voting Trump. I may just skip the vote. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Polls already show U

Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Yeah, it is. Youll see the formal representation in the general, this component is about getting the pleebs stirring. He is however in the background brokering political alliances and "deals". Its a poker game, and hes held his cards close to his chest for the primary. Wait until the general, I thi

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