Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Way nicer! I imagine the 444 would work with a lot of Mikrotik CPE, or cameras, or anything 100BaseT with power on the spare pairs. That probably means a hundred different possible uses to list. *shrug* maybe it doesn't matter and they should just get the gigE unit if they're not sure. How

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Leave power on all 8 wires to the house and switch data on all 8 wires to the test portthe complexity of this problem just hit me. Sounds like more trouble than anybody would want to pay you for. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Anybody lose a COW recently?

2017-01-09 Thread Dave
Holy COW! On 01/06/2017 02:32 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I'm not 100% sure but this look a lot like a telescoping COW trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8qg1ku62Cs --

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Darin Steffl
Yes when talking to other Verizon users, it sounds excellent!! Can't wait for them to finish interoperability testing with the other 3 carriers so HD calls pass to all the major cell networks instead of just Verizon. They are doing a little testing with AT but it's not launched yet. I'm hoping

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Looks like it's using Akamai On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Can you (or someone else that has it) tell us what CDN service it's using? > Should be able to Torch the connection or if on a PC, Resource Manager > should tell you what IP you're talking to. >

Re: [AFMUG] i am vetting windstream....

2017-01-09 Thread Dave
Bit pricey for me upwards of $5500 for a GigE fiber hand off. On 01/06/2017 12:21 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I am wanting to know if they're reliable, if they deliver what they quote (unlike some other companies) and horror stories - Original Message - *From:* Josh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Haiti

2017-01-09 Thread Chris Wright
I'm going there next month for the second time to teach a networking class in Port-Au-Prince. The Orphanage we stayed at, and the church we taught at both had FTTH. Bandwidth was terrible, though (~2mbps). Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Haiti

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
I may be down there at some point in the near future too. Need to find out what carriers are there and how to get to them. From: Chris Wright Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Haiti I’m going there next month for the second time to teach a

[AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
Got a new phone. Turned on Vz "HD Voice" calling. First experience with it today. Totally awesome, sounds great.

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
I have thought about it. First problem is the 8 pole dual throw switch. They exist but they are physically large and expensive. Second problem is that 444 segregates data on 4 wires and power on 4 different wires. With GigE ata and power are on all 8 wires. So, I would have to have some

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
At the very least I have to have 8 inductors, or 4 toroids choking the data going to the house. Then we could have 8 switches that short out and bypass the chokes. I think about this between 2 and 4 in the morning when the dreams do not entertain. (The last entertaining dream I had was an

Re: [AFMUG] Home RG routers -

2017-01-09 Thread Sorin Esanu
Since 844E is not available from retail, I am guessing you can ask your source for the latest firmware (11.1.130 or 11.2.6<- some nicer wifi features). Also, 844E has a WAP mode too, so you can have one 844E router and several 844E WAPs. I know from the product manager of the 800 series that

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Sounds like you shouldn't. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/9/2017 3:49:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf I have thought about it. First problem is the 8 pole dual throw switch. They exist

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
I had an old Moto X 1st gen. Three solid years out of it. Was an awesome phone until it just started acting stupid a couple weeks ago. Random reboots, wifi crashing, etc. Had to reboot a couple times just to get it to charge. Never sat on it, never dropped it. Might have fell off the console

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Jason McKemie
I had a Nexus 4, 5, and 6. I liked all of them, but the Pixel XL that I got about a month ago blows them out of the water. Good battery life, excellent performance, ridiculously fast charging, great build quality, and the interface is getting better with every iteration. The only thing that I

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
Yes! That's a feature I forgot. Turbo charging is freakin awesome. My phone was at 30% by the time I finally had everything set up. Plugged it in and it was at 100% in about 30-35 minutes. On 1/9/2017 9:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Only reason I got the Nexus was because the battery on my "DROID

Re: [AFMUG] VeEX Launches WiFi Test Module | Light Reading

2017-01-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
"meh" On Jan 9, 2017 7:13 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > http://www.lightreading.com/testing/test-and-measurement/ > veex-launches-wifi-test-module-/d/d-id/729435?f_src= > lightreading_editorspicks_rss_latest_editors_picks=true >

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
My "Droid Razr Maxx HD" from VZ is running 4.4.2 KitKat which dates from mid 2014, I bought the phone in 2013. The aging FW may explain why it acts up so much now. Phones are too expensive, I don't really want to buy a new one, but I'm probably stuck. -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
Log into your Vzw account. It's in there. HD Voice and Advanced Calling I believe are the two options you want. Both have to be enabled and are free. Reboot your phone and then go to Wireless & Networks > More > Cellular Networks > Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. Mine was already on after the reboot.

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
No SFP 4 u! On 1/9/2017 9:40 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'll take a slow wireless charger over turbo charging. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Robert
Somebody touches my gear and I find out, they are going to find a lock on their access or even multiple locks after I talk to a supervisor and don't hear a million apologies and some kind of compensation... On 1/9/17 5:10 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: They touched your gear? That's a bozo no

[AFMUG] VeEX Launches WiFi Test Module | Light Reading

2017-01-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://www.lightreading.com/testing/test-and-measurement/veex-launches-wifi-test-module-/d/d-id/729435?f_src=lightreading_editorspicks_rss_latest_editors_picks=true

[AFMUG] WISP-Router

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Eje Gustafsson of WISP-Router gives us a bit of an obituary on the distributor and solutions provider he ran for many years. https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/102937225448?comment_id=1083343385124446_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Prince
I've got a pretty new phone (Nexus 6P) running 7.0 Nougat, and am on Verizon. It should be updated to 7.1.1 by the end of the month. Where do you turn this on? BTW - if we have an internet connection (WiFi or cellular), calling on WhatsApp works pretty darn good too. bp

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Prince
Only reason I got the Nexus was because the battery on my "DROID RAZR Maxx HD" decided to self-destruct one night while on the charger. It didn't catch fire, but got very, very hot, and grew about 3X normal thickness. The chassis was ruined, and I decided it was time to upgrade. The Nexus 6P

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I'll take a slow wireless charger over turbo charging. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:38:54 PM

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
That was already happening, so not much of a threat. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:42:56

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Stewart
In the US your utility bills are much much cheaper than here in Canada … generally speaking. My gas bill in winter is about $150/month but even in summer it’s about $50/month due to delivery charges and other “taxes”.  On equal billing it was always about $90/month when I did it that way

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Jeremy
Looks like the $35 offer ends tomorrow. People who sign up today can keep that price as long as you maintain a continuous subscription. I was going to sign up, but not until they support Roku. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Discover. A I think. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
https://forums.att.com/t5/Streaming-to-Devices/DIRECTV-NOW-Supported-Devices-and-Troubleshooting/m-p/4929635#M1 From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now I think they support firestick now. I haven’t tried it yet. From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Most water heaters have a vacation setting. On Jan 8, 2017 8:16 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > It would be nice to turn the water heater off and keep my ac/heat on > minimal settings while I'm away for extended periods and turn them back on > a few hours before I get home

Re: [AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
That looks too good to be true. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz FYI...the 15.0.2 upgrade made substantial improvements for our testing. It's only 6 subs but

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Stewart
I had tankless at a condo I was using and loved it … went to add it to my actual house and it became quite complicated due to the location I wanted it in so ended up not installing it (code requires pipes so far apart for intake/exhaust etc and can’t be near windows etc etc etc) From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz

2017-01-09 Thread Eric Muehleisen
That's what I thought. But we verified it with linktests and speedtests. Not to mention session uptimes went from re-reging multiple times a day to rock-solid. No configuration or frequency changes. Just firmware upgrade. I'm hoping that v15 firmware will bring some improvements to our 5ghz 450

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah exactly … it really does help with costs and makes good general sense (when everything works – mine has always worked great) My hot water tank for example takes about 20-24 minutes to go from cold to quite hot … that’s one heating cycle and good to go – during the day, when running

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
I think they support firestick now. I haven’t tried it yet. From: Jeremy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now Looks like the $35 offer ends tomorrow. People who sign up today can keep that price as long as you maintain a continuous

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Most people don't even know what a water heater looks like, much less can be trusted to touch one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Stewart
True and in my case it was always something I would think of when 1000 miles away ;) From: Af on behalf of Jaime Solorza Reply-To: Date: Monday, January 9, 2017 at 10:53 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
The closest I can think of to that would be IgniteNet's PoE switch. It's missing a few of your checkboxes, but would be the closest. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] Home RG routers -

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Not sure. I don’t think so. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Home RG routers - Do you have to pay Calix for the latest 844 firmware? On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is Unifi all the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
It must be your Internet, call and complain. Seriously, if it’s unstable, I hope none of my customers sign up, because they will blame the ISP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 8:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

[AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz

2017-01-09 Thread Eric Muehleisen
FYI...the 15.0.2 upgrade made substantial improvements for our testing. It's only 6 subs but the utilizations and link stability have improved dramatically. You can probably see on the attachment when the upgrade took place. Anyone out there seeing any improvements with the 15.0.2 code for the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
DTVN puts up some text apologizing for the problem. But demand is not to be trusted. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 7:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now It must be your Internet, call and complain. Seriously, if it’s unstable, I hope none of my

[AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks

2017-01-09 Thread Tim Reichhart
l2tp setup between 2 mikrotiks. I think I setup it correctly I can ping both routers inside each other but when I try to ping from my computer to one of the remote mikrotik I get request timed out or cant get to it via winbox. Whats the best way to get this going?

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
That would be an awful way to live On Jan 9, 2017 8:42 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I know a guy that is unipolar bipolar. Only manic. All the time. Wears > you out being around him. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:03 PM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz

2017-01-09 Thread Matt
We also noticed an improvement when we moved from 2.5ms to 5.0ms frame size and upgraded too 15.0.2 at same time. Was not sure which did it. Is Canopy 900 FSK 5ms frames? But our nearest FSK gear was like 10 miles away. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Eric Muehleisen

Re: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks

2017-01-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Sounds like hire a consultant to do it for you :) Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
using 3011's here as well, and they fit nicely into a 2011 case which I have to do a lot since my enclosures aren't big enough for rackmount On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:59 AM, George Skorup wrote: > I just want enough horsepower to do routing at medium sized sites. > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
We have 2011 cases as well we can sell. They are generic. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread Christopher Tyler
I 3D print a basic frame that we can wall or DIN rail mount with. If you are interested in the STL file, I can send it to you. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Stewart
LOL … In all seriousness though it’s getting tougher for kids to get started these days … I have no idea how some young adults these days plan to afford their first house anymore.  When I was younger a of first time buyers in housing were looking at “war time houses” as they were often in

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
I want a CRS based on the 3011 that has 4x SFP/SFP+ cages and 16-20 copper gigabit ports in a desktop case with rack ears optional and 10-60VDC. But I know it won't happen because MikroTik doesn't listen. On 1/8/2017 7:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Works as advertised, once I upgraded firmware.

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread George Skorup
I just want enough horsepower to do routing at medium sized sites. On 1/9/2017 7:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The closest I can think of to that would be IgniteNet's PoE switch. It's missing a few of your checkboxes, but would be the closest. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Compared to SlingTV or Vue (or Hulu, HBO GO, etc.) DTVN has a long ways to go on the stability side. I've had it around a month and while live TV has gotten to just a few stalls per night, on demand is still unusable. That said, apple TV for 3 months pre-paid means they have 3 months to make it

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Can you (or someone else that has it) tell us what CDN service it's using? Should be able to Torch the connection or if on a PC, Resource Manager should tell you what IP you're talking to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
I know a guy that is unipolar bipolar. Only manic. All the time. Wears you out being around him. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead? Oakenfold commercial mixes are good for me. I'm bipolar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Discover. A I think. Discover is the big one for me. Vue has it too. DTVN has a better guide, remote and picture than the others. I hope it can get the demand problem fixed. From: Jeremy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

Re: [AFMUG] Home RG routers -

2017-01-09 Thread Joe Novak
I agree Josh. That said my TV was holding -60 with the 844. In a 40mhz channel with a fairly low noise floor I expected it to work better. Also tried 20mhz with no change in performance. The DLNA stream is about a 7mbit stream that requires no hiccups because there is minimal to no buffering. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, I go to Roku for the on demand, but I have to Sling for some channels and Vue for others. Be nice if DTVN was more stable. From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 6:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now Compared to SlingTV or Vue (or Hulu, HBO GO,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
The guy is my age, healthy as a horse, no gray hair, seems happy and up all the time. I dunno... From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead? That would be an

Re: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I am more of an MT bumbler, but I seem to remember when I've had trouble with that sort of thing in the past, I did a search and the fix had something to do with turning on a proxy ARP setting at the remote end. Might be a different problem than what you're having. -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
mania is psychologically exhausting, having to reaffirm every decision and thought constantly to make sure it was sound and not whimsical. You have to audit every risk knowing that your gauge is broken. F all that noise, being stuck manic would require detaching the harness at the top of the

Re: [AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yes, 5 ms. We also have nearest competitor FSK 900 is 10 miles away, and absolutely we had to tweak all the parameters to sync with it, otherwise we had poor modulation and reregs. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, January 9,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Did Robin Williams have it? Was he like that all the time, or just on camera? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead? That would be an awful way to

Re: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks

2017-01-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i just got the mikrotik nuts and bolts video, hopefully the format is such that it justifies buying the series On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I am more of an MT bumbler, but I seem to remember when I've had trouble > with that sort of thing in the past, I

Re: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks

2017-01-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Does each router have routes to the other router's connected networks? -- Original Message -- From: "Tim Reichhart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/9/2017 11:38:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks l2tp setup between 2 mikrotiks. I think I

Re: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks

2017-01-09 Thread Tim Reichhart
Adam one of the routers didnt have routes to it after adding it now it works. Thanks Tim -Original Message- > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: af@afmug.com > Date: 01/09/17 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] l2tp setup between 2 miktroiks > > Does each router have

Re: [AFMUG] RB3011

2017-01-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, just buying the generic 2011 cases is certainly a solution, it would just be nice to not have to buy extra parts that just get thrown away and spend all the time switching things around. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > We have 2011 cases

Re: [AFMUG] New project

2017-01-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
a second clamp and nuts/washers on the top mount is all it would take On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The customer can install the bolts any way they want. > Hard to make it plumb on a sloping tower leg. I have other mounts that > will allow for that. > >

Re: [AFMUG] New project

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, yeah, that is doable... thanks for the suggestion. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New project a second clamp and nuts/washers on the top mount is all it would take On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Jeremy
What does DTVNow have over Sling? If Sling is stable, why wouldn't someone just use that instead? On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > DTVN puts up some text apologizing for the problem. But demand is not to > be trusted. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
A lot more channels. A lot more. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:18:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Interesting how DIY and automation have changed things, used to be you’d give a neighbor a key and pay their kid a few bucks to feed your pets and check the water heater. Now that kid is unemployed and watching ISIS videos on the Internet in his parents basement. Or he’s driving for Uber,

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Not sure there is enough room. Will try. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf You could put a cute little picture in the far left or right cell on each line. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Monkey playing with a cat From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf There's always room for cats on the Internet. Could put in cat pictures instead of useful ones. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Robert Andrews
When I do spreadsheets for display I like to alternate a light shade on the rows to make it clear which row you are looking at... On 01/09/2017 10:02 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: How can I improve this?

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf When I do spreadsheets for display I like to alternate a light shade on the rows to make it clear which row

Re: [AFMUG] Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I have the following in my house: Sense monitor on my main inside breaker. https://sense.com/ Great idea, but it’s not smart enough to detect most of my stuff and there appears to be no manual way to tell it anything. So it’s just kind of sitting there until they upgrade it to ‘useful’ state

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown
That is always the problem. I used to list the radios but there are too many now. If in doubt buy the GigE, it works on everything. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf People know

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
a saying from EMS days "dont taunt the loon" On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > My first ex wife was bipolar... The time she came at me with a knife was > pretty much the end.. > > On 01/09/2017 10:08 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> Both my wife and

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Jay Weekley
I think that would be a deal breaker. Robert Andrews wrote: My first ex wife was bipolar... The time she came at me with a knife was pretty much the end.. On 01/09/2017 10:08 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Both my wife and her father are bipolar. Both are crazy as can be, and a lot of fun. That

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Robert Andrews
I figured you deserved some kind of serious reply... Oh kitties... :) On 01/09/2017 10:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Thanks -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical

Re: [AFMUG] Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Sterling Jacobson
That’s probably more reliable, but way more expensive than UBNT. I use the mFi stuff at all my sites for door open/close temp and power monitoring. I’ve had mPorts die all the time, and temp sensors need calibration. They all go to a controller on VM and I was using windows which sucked. Once I

Re: [AFMUG] Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
on the consumer market end id say the potential is equivalent to the folks that advertise assembling your cheap furniture and whatnot from walmart for you. Just technical labor, not worth the liability to sell the consumer grade gear, leave the support between the consumer and the manufacturer. i

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Robert Andrews
The absolute deal breaker was that manic look with the words "I'm gonna cut your balls off" I thought I was in a Jason movie... ten minutes before everything was hunky dory.. I was in this marriage for just over two year with nothing like this... Small episodes but she was going off a

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
http://dilbert.com/strip/1990-03-08 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead? I think that would be a deal breaker. Robert Andrews wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
You could put a cute little picture in the far left or right cell on each line. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 12:02 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > How can I improve this? >

Re: [AFMUG] Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I think there is money to be made, but in the data end. I have a project I’ve been trying to pitch to Vivint and property management companies. Install a bunch of sensors and controllers, collect and sell the data. I think that’s what sold NEST, was their data collection, not really so much

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Both my wife and her father are bipolar. Both are crazy as can be, and a lot of fun. That said, my wife hasn't been on medication for it in probably 8 years now. She does quite well really. I'd even say better now than when she was taking meds for it. On Jan 9, 2017 11:45 AM, "That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
There's always room for cats on the Internet. Could put in cat pictures instead of useful ones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/9/17 08:24, Ken Hohhof wrote: Interesting how DIY and automation have changed things, used to be you’d give a neighbor a key and pay their kid a few bucks to feed your pets and check the water heater. Now that kid is unemployed and watching ISIS videos on the Internet in his parents

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Is that part of making America great again? On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 1/9/17 08:24, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Interesting how DIY and automation have changed things, used to be you’d > > give a neighbor a key and pay their kid a few bucks to feed

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux 1U SyncInjector

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
What’s the latest status on this item? Will we know the ETA when it appears in the Packetflux store, or are you taking some sort of pre-orders? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:26 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is the music CD dead?

2017-01-09 Thread Robert Andrews
My first ex wife was bipolar... The time she came at me with a knife was pretty much the end.. On 01/09/2017 10:08 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Both my wife and her father are bipolar. Both are crazy as can be, and a lot of fun. That said, my wife hasn't been on medication for it in probably 8

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Those coal mining jobs are coming back though. (Who could have predicted that would be a winning campaign promise.) Some jobs should be automated. I read somewhere they are starting to use robots in slaughterhouses. Not this, but it’s what I find with a Google search:

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought of you recently when I watched the Simpsons episode where they go on the Japanese quiz show and advance to the “Lightning Round”. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Emailing: Surge Suppressor Technical Chart.pdf

2017-01-09 Thread Josh Luthman
People know what radio they're using. If they're telling you the radio, which SS do they buy? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I thought of you recently when I

Re: [AFMUG] Home automation

2017-01-09 Thread Zach Underwood
I have looked at http://www.networktechinc.com/enviro-monitor.html for a ubnt mfi replacement when I build my new place. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I have the following in my house: > > > > Sense monitor on my main inside breaker. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Home RG routers -

2017-01-09 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I had a Netgear Nighthawk $400 router at first. Then I got an ASUS $400 router. Now I just installed a UBNT Amplifi mesh system. As you know, I have a 10Gbps connection to my house and can easily push 1Gbps. So the fastest wireless I’ve seen is on the ASUS with around 500Mbps to my Note 5

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux 1U SyncInjector

2017-01-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Very close. I hope to have a better answer later this week (I'm verifying what I hope to be the final board revisions - the real answer will be related to what I find) On Jan 9, 2017 11:18 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > What’s the latest status on this item? > > > > Will we know

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