http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv=SS=EN=LTPH-UM-1236-01
Maybe the last page table can shed some light !
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
not sure what magic you were hoping for ..
But the expected magic from a horn is not necessarily and improvement in signal
level.. but an improvement in SNR, thus the ability to achieve a much more
consistent, higher modulation as per compared to sectors..
and yes there are some excellent
Up to 20% recurring commission.
Or sometimes they'll do one time "door fees" up to $500 per unit.
Keefe
On April 10, 2018 6:28:21 PM CDT, Jon Langeler
wrote:
>What are some common kickback percentages to the building owner? How do
>ATT, Comcast, etc work with
I Totally agree with josh.
They have a specific purpose so if you can deploy within those parameters
they are great.
Unfortunately our area isn’t conducive to that type of deployment because
of terrain. In the mountains you need antennas with a wider vertical beam
because your towers are on mtn
Thats what im looking for,, spec sheet based results, not "i did
AA" and it didnt work, or "i did ABCDEFG" AND IT GOT 400 miles at
300 mbs per sub"
I see alot of 30 degre poles with multiple antennas, but no aftermath.
I just have no tool to plot them, though i heard link planner added
I concur. I've only used a couple of them, because we don't have a lot of
places where 30 degree sectors make sense, and the gain is just too low on
the others.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 9:12 PM Sean Heskett wrote:
> Low gain but no side lobes, just one spot beam.
>
> The 30* unit
They are great for stuff like 30/40Mhz wide, gps sync, put 4-6 on a pole in
a subdivision or on a tower leg kinda thing.
If anybody thought they were for something else (ie long range), they
didn't read the data sheets.
Lightweight, low size, low wind load, perfectly circular pattern - great
I recently did a couple of tests with RF horns. I was hoping for a lot
and was disappointed. I was hoping that they could be colocated
closer than regular sectors that I use and the crosstalk signal levels
were just about the same as the shielded sectors. As far as the
signals at the
Low gain but no side lobes, just one spot beam.
The 30* unit is the only one with a decent gain. If you go any wider than
30* then the gain is too low in my opinion.
But you can use lots of 30* antennas per tower and with GPS sync you can
Re-use channels if you need.
2 cents
-Sean
On Tue,
I should take and share a pic of the local DEA installation... ( I
wonder if that breaks a law? ) Yeah, it's where the "goodies" are and I
wouldn't dream of crossing that fence line...
On 4/10/18 6:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
As a former criminal (and suprising to most, yes a mental ward
Can i get some non fanboy real world on these guys? Btw, i hate facebook
groups almost as much as dslreports or the ubnt forums, this is literally
the only place to get legitimate product info.
As a former criminal (and suprising to most, yes a mental ward inhabitant)
i can tell you one thing, barbed wire is nothing but a jean jackets cost to
beat. Razor wire or nothing.
I can also tell you another thing, the more physical "barriers" the more
valuable the content. If i saw a steel
I drove by a lot yesterday that looked about as secure as you could get. It
looked like not much inside but maybe
so vehicle parking and junk vehicles. However, it had two rows of chain
link fence separated by circular razor
wire in between and on the tops of the fence. While it did seem to be a
Electric fences "could" be up around 12,000 volts, although I can't think
of a good reason why. They are super-low current, but I honestly don't know
what kind of voltage they actually use.
-bp
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:42 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
I think I would use multiple fence chargers so they can’t just short out one
circuit and kill the whole fence.
Or I could go all North Korean on them
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 5:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT one more for the borg
I've seen a few
I've seen a few "fences" lately around equipment here in California that
are 8ft-ish and has about 6 horizontal wires that are insulated from the
posts with plastic hanging signs that say something like "danger 12,000
volts" I'm can almost guarantee it's not lethal although they want you to
think
What are some common kickback percentages to the building owner? How do ATT,
Comcast, etc work with landlords?
Thanks
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Yeah, it's definitely harder if the barbed wire angles outward... and it's
a lot scarier looking when you get up there, so you're less likely to try
it.
But yeah, there's a big difference between the kind of criminal that cuts
open, (or even climbs) a fence to steal stuff and the type that just
It's only a deterrent. Nobody's expecting to stop Danny Ocean.
Is it harder to climb if the barbed wire angles outwards? My criminal
trespassing days are well behind me, so I honestly don't know.
-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/10/2018 6:22:58
ohhh does it come with the spa/pool like that hitchcock thriller?
On 04/10/2018 01:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have images of the party scene in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:25 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT one more
& a sign that says "Smile you're on camera"
On 04/10/2018 12:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I need to build a fence. Keep people out of my equipment yard. Lost a
few things over the years, mostly radiators, wiring batts etc. Copper stuff.
So, what kind of fence. How tall. I am thinking 10’/8’ T
That was my thinking as well.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:56 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT one more for the borg
I'm not in the habit of cutting through fences, but I'd guess that it would
take less time to get through chain link, but you're going to need a bigger
The new 5GHz PMP450b SMs are shipping now. The 450b mid-gain is pretty
much identical to the ePMP Force180. And 450b high-gain is an integrated
dish like the Force200. But that's just 5GHz for now. There's still the
2.4 450 which is the classic SM case. And the 3GHz weird-o half n half
case.
I'm not in the habit of cutting through fences, but I'd guess that it would
take less time to get through chain link, but you're going to need a bigger
cutters... and if somebody wants to get in that badly, they'll cut through
either one.
But I can say that climbing 8' chain link with barbed wire
Are you implying that Steve spends most of his time in an abandoned looney bin?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT one more for the borg
I have images of the party scene in One Flew Over
They are telling me the 06 suffix will not work. Not understanding it.
Don’t have any manuals so I cannot figure out if they know what they are
talking about or not.
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
did a quick
I have images of the party scene in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT one more for the borg
Did you get ballistic housings?
P.S.: I'm really amused that your office is an abandoned hospital. No
Did you get ballistic housings?
P.S.: I'm really amused that your office is an abandoned hospital. No
ordinary office would do for a person of your caliber.
-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/10/2018 3:42:01 PM
Subject:
did a quick search on ebay.. quiet a few available..
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Chuck McCown"
> To: af@afmug.com
>
this, there is no shame in forcing obsolescence. Part of the deciding
factors in finally killing old stuff is how much it costs to keep it going.
If you keep it cheap, it stays cheap and we keep doing it, putting you in
this same position after this next 500 is gone.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:25
I identify as 7 of 9...
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:54 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT one more for the borg
Oh, and one question
If we're the Borg, are you the Borg queen?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Chuck McCown
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/russia-has-figured-out-how-jam-u-s-drones-syria-n863931
Jaime Solorza
Oh, and one question
If we're the Borg, are you the Borg queen?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> I need to build a fence. Keep people out of my equipment yard. Lost a
> few things over the years, mostly radiators, wiring batts etc. Copper
> stuff.
best thing we did here (we operate out of an abandoned hospital) was put up
as big of housings for our security cameras as we could find and put them
in very prominent locations. We went from a broken window or tresspass
almost every other week to it being a very rare occurrence.
On Tue, Apr 10,
Make enough to make it worth your while. Then start increasing the price to
discourage repeat abusers.
-bp
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Sigh to do another run or not.
> I gotta do 500 pcs to make it worth doing.
Depending on the gauge, hog wire can be about the same difficulty to cut as
chain link. Not sure which one would be more or less difficult to get
through, but when you cut a row of chainnlink, the rest folds up like an
accordion.
I like concertina across the top, but the stuff you described works
Sigh to do another run or not.
I gotta do 500 pcs to make it worth doing.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:21 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case
As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount. The very
latest
As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount. The
very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even
available in some bands yet. Someone who buys this stuff will need to
confirm.
Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is
I need to build a fence. Keep people out of my equipment yard. Lost a few
things over the years, mostly radiators, wiring batts etc. Copper stuff.
So, what kind of fence. How tall. I am thinking 10’/8’ T post with hog/goat
welded wire.
Perhaps with those barbed wire brackets (if I can get
I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning totally away
from the old canopy style case.
That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic mount.
I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
That form factor is a dead end, right?
Not totally sure.
From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
At their cell towers? Or circuits being resold?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
AT!
From: Colin Stanners
Sent:
At their cell towers? Or circuits being resold?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> AT!
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
>
> What kind of customer is still
I think Philo may be a better value.
The Sling Roamio has a DVR, but this new one I posted does too and it is much
cheaper.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Interesting OTA box
Do they have a new one with DVR as well? I am
AT!
From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
What kind of customer is still using T1s?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
HDSL 231 L8 150--08 central office units
HDU 409
What kind of customer is still using T1s?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> HDSL 231 L8 150--08 central office units
> HDU 409 Doublers
> HRU 402 remote at the customer.
>
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:56 AM
> *To:*
Do they have a new one with DVR as well? I am about to ditch my basic cable
in favor of OTA combined with DirectTVNow, Netflix, And Amazon Prime. Any
others out there proved to be worth something?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
> I use the roamio. I
OK, that makes sense Forrest. That demystifies things a bit
From: Af On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:56 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sitemonitor Question with Relay
Depends on the load and how you wire it.
Give me a few minutes and I'll send a drawing which might help even more.
(Need to move to a different machine)
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 11:52 AM Christopher Tyler
wrote:
> Generally the tirgger is measured in milliamps. Your load shouldn't be
> running through it. But
HDSL 231 L8 150--08 central office units
HDU 409 Doublers
HRU 402 remote at the customer.
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
Which model of pairgain cards are you looking for ?
(ebay or secondary markets ?
Which model of pairgain cards are you looking for ?
(ebay or secondary markets ? )
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Chuck McCown"
Depends on the load and how you wire it.
For smaller sites I've been known to use a small 24VDC fan for ventilation
which consumes less than 1A, so I switch it directly with the relay.
If you get closer to the relay rating you should use an off board relay,
and then you use the on board relay
Solid State Relays take something like 30 mA.
From: Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sitemonitor Question with Relay
But, is the relay switching in the Packetflux bearing any of the load at any
point? I would think not, but the
Generally the tirgger is measured in milliamps. Your load shouldn't be running
through it. But rather through the remote relay.
See the attached image for a quick wiring diagram. I think I drew the diode
backwards, I was in a hurry.
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total
But, is the relay switching in the Packetflux bearing any of the load at any
point? I would think not, but the answers are a bit confusing, as though it
is.
I would think most basic relays could be triggered successfully with much less
than 2A
From: Af On Behalf Of
The relay is rated for 2A@30V, and 60W above that.
See https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/315/mech_eng_tx-1075670.pdf figure 1
on page 3 for a visual of this.
I'd recommend that you test the relay operation with an ohm meter before
trying a circuit. There should be conductivity between C and NC
That is probably what I will be doing. They have repeaters but you can put
back to back sdls cards and repeat.
The ones I looked at this morning run on 24 volts. So that is a down side.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT T1
Yeah, I thought this would be the case, for some reason, Packetflux support
led my guy to realize that it didn’t work that way.
SMH
From: Af On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:38 PM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sitemonitor
Touch the wires together and make morse code.
Can you do SDSL on the same loop, or is it too long for that?
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/10/2018 1:19:23 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
I have some customers still on T1 over
I have some customers still on T1 over copper loops. (This is in Louisiana,
not Utah).We cannot buy the pairgain cards any more to supply them and we
are out of cards.
Any suggestions?
I use the roamio. I purchased it.
From: Joe Novak
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Interesting OTA box
I remember reading your experience when going into this, and I was probably
more disappointed at the broad outage the day I signed up. Shit
Yes, but just like Wimax or Canopy you have to set a compatible
configuration at each site.
-- Original Message --
From: "Matt"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/10/2018 1:13:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE 3.65 and GPS Sync
So do all sites use GPS to transmit at
So do all sites use GPS to transmit at the same time then receive at
same to reduce interference between sites?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't ever heard of anybody doing AAA in 3.65ghz... but yeah, I guess
> that would work to just leave
I remember reading your experience when going into this, and I was probably
more disappointed at the broad outage the day I signed up. Shit happens.
I'll give it some time, it seems to be working well beyond that.
Are you using the AirTV box?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Chuck McCown
Or a triac if it is an AC load.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:38 AM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sitemonitor Question with Relay
The typical solution with a light-duty relay is to use it to control a heavier
relay that carries the actual load.
-bp
--
bp
My sling has been pretty much flawless since day one.
From: Joe Novak
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Interesting OTA box
I talked with the dish network guy at WISPA America, this is the product Sling
TV is helping push:
If you are using an external relay the load shouldn't matter to the SiteMonitor
at all. The load would only matter for the extrenal relay itself. The
SiteMonitor doesn't supply power accross the relay output so you would have to
supply the external relays coil voltage across the site monitor
We have been using the Channel Master DVR+ for a number of years. We live
in an area that never has not, and probably never will have any sort of
wireline TV (cable, or anything). So we got this thing, as we do get 50 or
60 OTA channels at the present time. It also has OTT channels that you can
Get a DIN mount DPDT, wire it so your load is on the normally closed
contacts. Run the control circuit on the DPDT through the normally open
contact on the Site Monitor.
I'd bet a Google search can give you diagrams.
-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall"
To:
I use the temp control module for heaters and fans. Same concept. The
external relays are 24VDC coil. Contacts rated for 125VAC/10A. The load
is on the normally-open side. The temp module calls for heating or
cooling and triggers the correct device. e.g. turn on the fan if TempA>30C.
You're
The typical solution with a light-duty relay is to use it to control a
heavier relay that carries the actual load.
-bp
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
> Yes, we know that, and have used it on lighter loads. But,
I talked with the dish network guy at WISPA America, this is the product
Sling TV is helping push:
https://www.airtv.net/products/airtv_player/
At home I have been less then impressed with the reliability of Sling.TV,
the first day I setup my demo there was a 15 hour outage. The integration
Yes, we know that, and have used it on lighter loads. But, apparently there is
a challenge on a heavier load as we described below. Wanting to know if we can
do what we want and maybe we just have the wrong external relay
-Original Message-
From: Af On Behalf Of
Yes, there is a relay output on the siteMonitor II that you can trigger via
SNMP or web interface.
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: "Paul McCall"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday,
My service manager seems to be struggling with using the Sitemonitor Relay
contact to trigger a 48 Relay that we want to use to power cycle the whole
tower if necessary. So, Packetflux states that the Relay control is maximum.
30v 1amp. So a little more than half the amps at 48v.
So, in the
Yeah, I knew there were ways of doing AAA with LTE in the cellular world, I
never looked into how exactly that worked before though. I just haven't
ever heard of anyone doing it in a fixed 3.65ghz LTE deployment.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
https://www.pcmag.com/news/360337/hackers-deface-network-switches-in-russia-iran-with-us-flag
While this is grade school humorous, these children
A. Committed major felonies, and if caught should rightfully recieve
maximum sentencing
B. Forced closure of many potential vulnerabilities that may
Sometimes they only have enough spectrum for one good sized channel. So
they can deploy all on one channel, but they have very narrow sectors
and they rely on having a grid of towers so each tower is filling in the
gaps on another tower. Picture interlocking fingers.
I've never done this,
I haven't ever heard of anybody doing AAA in 3.65ghz... but yeah, I guess
that would work to just leave huge gaps.
Generally, as long as none of your clients can see more than one AP on the
same channel you're fine, as far as self-interference goes (and that
applies to pretty much any synced
You can still do ABAB.
That AAA thing you're talking about is with three very narrow sectors.
So that cell has huge gaps which are filled in from an adjacent cell.
-- Original Message --
From: "Matt"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/10/2018 9:49:53 AM
Subject:
How does LTE work with GPS sync? As I understand instead of ABAB they
typically do AAA for frequency reuse? Does this also mean if you have
two LTE sites say 8 miles apart they will have minimal interference
with each other even using same channels?
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