Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adoreAndroid

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
They have a good model, now that they've made it work. Control the whole product and you can offer great support. Pretty tough for Microsoft when anyone can throw a PC together. The Windows 10 situation is interesting to me, shows they are really re-orientating their business model. On

[AFMUG] cord cutting finally having a major impact - disney stock down 10%+ - and they're not alone

2015-08-05 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I had some Disney on a Jim Cramer (Mad Money) recommendation and it's done quite well. Today it was down 10%. Tonight's Mad Money covered the conference call quite well - - most all of their earnings were in line except for the tv entertainment side of things - which includes ESPN - and all

Re: [AFMUG] OT Watch: Lexus makes a hoverboard that actually works - CNN Philippines

2015-08-05 Thread George Skorup
when placed above a magnetic track :| Fail On 8/5/2015 10:57 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: http://cnnphilippines.com/lifestyle/2015/08/06/lexus-hoverboard-back-to-the-future.html

[AFMUG] Aluminum vs Galvanized Steel Masts

2015-08-05 Thread Keefe John
Looking at pricing recently I noticed that schedule 40 aluminum pipe isn't that much more expensive than schedule 40 hot dipped steel pipe. Is there any disadvantage to using it on a tower? The weight would make it a lot easy for tower crews. Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] cord cutting finally having a major impact - disneystock down 10%+ - and they're not alone

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Prince
Interesting side note about MLBAM (Major League Baseball Advanced Media; referred to in this piece as just BAM). http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/thank-major-league-baseball-your-streaming-content bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 8/5/2015 6:49 PM, Bill Prince wrote: ESPN has

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actuallyadoreAndroid

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
That may be true, but I think AppleCare phone support has gone downhill. They are just script readers like everyone else now. And they aren’t even trained well on their own products, like not knowing that WiFi-only iPads don’t have GPS. From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 7:49

[AFMUG] Legalzoom

2015-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Is this outfit worth dealing with for stuff like a dba for a small business that will probably generate 22 bucks and a bad taste in the mouth. I assume everybody here did this among other things once upon a lonesome. It's like 99 to 150 bucks plus the filing fees. Is a dba something you can muck

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] cord cutting finally having a major impact - disneystock down 10%+ - and they're not alone

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Prince
ESPN has already cut some of their higher-priced marquee personalities. They were discussing this the other day on Marketplace. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 8/5/2015 6:37 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Will ESPN slash staff, people, games, programming or will they remove the option to stream

Re: [AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location

2015-08-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
Sounds about right. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015, 7:35 PM Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: My best guess would be $10-15k for a lightweight tower. For a REAL self support tower that can handle at minimum 10 sq ft of surface area, I wouldn't touch it for less than $20k. That's with them

[AFMUG] OT Watch: Lexus makes a hoverboard that actually works - CNN Philippines

2015-08-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://cnnphilippines.com/lifestyle/2015/08/06/lexus-hoverboard-back-to-the-future.html

Re: [AFMUG] Aluminum vs Galvanized Steel Masts

2015-08-05 Thread George Skorup
We bought some 1-1/4 IMC. Nice that it's about 30% lighter and same O.D. as rigid, but it's kinda hard to find. Found a couple pieces at Crescent Electric and special ordered some more from Menards because it was cheaper. On 8/5/2015 10:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I used aluminum conduit as a

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-05 Thread Paul McCall
We have been using Smartsheet. Very powerful, flexible and cheap. Like Excel on a Serena Williams dosage of Steroids From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] cord cutting finally having a major impact - disneystock down 10%+ - and they're not alone

2015-08-05 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
and i forgot to include - basically Disney implied / admitted that the cost to program ESPN may not allow them to continue to be as profitable if the millennial continue this trend (and we know they won't...) Will ESPN slash staff, people, games, programming or will they remove the option to

Re: [AFMUG] cord cutting finally having a major impact - disney stock down 10%+ - and they're not alone

2015-08-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have hard it mentioned for a couple of years now in investment coverage. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015, 8:33 PM CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I had some Disney on a Jim Cramer (Mad Money) recommendation and it's done quite well. Today it was down 10%. Tonight's Mad Money covered

Re: [AFMUG] Wrap indoor radios with plastic?

2015-08-05 Thread Jeremy
Also, I have painted a number of antennas with Krylon fusion in a number of various colors with no noticeable effect. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Almost any plastic bag will work just fine. Just avoid silvery static bags or anything that might have a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Prince
On 8/5/2015 3:42 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Say what you want... Apple is still the largest company in the world... still... this discussion has been going on for 5+ years now... and Apple is making more money than they can spend... and Samsung is losing more money every quarter. :) Largest

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
It's hard to argue with a company that makes $180B+ last year, and has a market cap of $700B+, and has some of the largest earnings of all time. I don't think there's a company of that size in that space. Google and Microsoft's estimated value together are not as big as Apple's. Someone is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Mathew Howard
I seem to remember reading awhile back when Microsoft made a deal with, I think HTC, that they were paying Microsoft more per device for patent royalties on Android then they were for Windows mobile. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Say what you want... Apple

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Travis Johnson
+1 On 8/5/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's hard to argue with a company that makes $180B+ last year, and has a market cap of $700B+, and has some of the largest earnings of all time. I don't think there's a company of that size in that space. Google and Microsoft's estimated value

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adoreAndroid

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
My view from the phone support perspective is people should buy whatever device they like, as long as they know how to use it, or are willing to learn. But if you are ignorant and like it that way, please disregard the outdated wisdom that any idiot can operate a Mac because they are so simple

[AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location

2015-08-05 Thread Tim Reichhart
Guys I had an customer emailed me and asked me if I provide internet access in his area and I told him currently I dont. Then he asked me what it would take for me get net access to his location and I told him that I would need at least 120-130 ft. Then customer wants to know how much and kind

Re: [AFMUG] Any idea what this is?

2015-08-05 Thread Rory Conaway
If it's not a 2.4GHz AP, it might be a 900MHz radio for water meters. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CARL PETERSON Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 3:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Any idea what this is? [cid:image001.jpg@01D0CF92.C26DE060] Carl Peterson PORT

Re: [AFMUG] Any idea what this is?

2015-08-05 Thread Wireless Admin
Looks like power company smart meter. Likely 900Mhz. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any idea what this is? If it's not a 2.4GHz AP, it might be a 900MHz

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Say what you want... Apple is still the largest company in the world... still... this discussion has been going on for 5+ years now... and Apple is making more money than they can spend... and Samsung is losing more money every quarter. :) All the phone manufacturers love Android because it's

Re: [AFMUG] Any idea what this is?

2015-08-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Looks like Statros 2.4AP... On Aug 5, 2015 4:40 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net wrote: Looks like power company smart meter. Likely 900Mhz. Steve B. -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
You think McDonald's is the best burger because they sell more? Hell I bet you loved that Sam's club patty in Vegas ;) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 6:42 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Say what you want...

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
heya!! look who it is!! - Original Message - From: Jacob To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead I believe they have emergency support available at 920-351-1010. Hope that helps! On 8/5/2015 12:10

Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz

2015-08-05 Thread Hardy, Tim
7 GHz is 25 MHz max and 13 GHz is 50 MHz max - send me your coordinates off list and I'll tell you if the path is eligible. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Is it 25MHz? Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
Well, you tried my two go to standards for resolving issues. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, 11:31 PM That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: anybody using powercode and your monitoring is dead? Hopefully its just us and not systemic. Apparently they tested and they can kick probes off on

[AFMUG] Ad NETwork

2015-08-05 Thread David
I am sure there was thread about someone doing an AD NETWORK for open hotspot that provides a residual back to its host. Is there such a thing? I may have an opportunity with a local sign company with signs all over the state to provide some hotspot coverage and access. --

Re: [AFMUG] Ad NETwork

2015-08-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
Dave hit us offlist ☺ Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.netmailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.nethttp://www.linktechs.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 8:01 AM To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Did your clock NTP server jump around recently? RRD (the data storage system they are using for graphs) does NOT play well with time changes. Especially ones that go backward. ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047

[AFMUG] test

2015-08-05 Thread Curtis Brotherton
test == Curtis Brotherton Florida Broadband - PDMNet http://www.floridabroadband.com (772)564-6800

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Cussed and got drunk? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 7:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead Well, you tried my two go to standards for resolving issues. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, 11:31 PM That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread Jason Pond
I had this happen last week when I started upgrading my ubnt network to 5.6.2 it is the result of a bad SNMP probe causing all SNMP to stop functioning from the powercode server. I opened a ticket with powercode and they were able to resolve it. If you made any changes to the monitoring you

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
If you have one bad OID for a price none of them work. Removing the bad one makes the probes work instantly. Status check isn't effected by this. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 9:46 AM, Jason Pond

[AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245 km

2015-08-05 Thread Ray Savich
We connected a link from Pike's Peak to Cheyenne, Wyoming. Check out the details and add your questions/comments at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-650/PTP-650-Sets-New-Wireless-Broadband-Link-Record-of-245-km/m-p/42607#U42607 Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community

[AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
I seem to vaguely remember someone once telling me it is calculated as a percentage of the tax that you assess your customer, but that doesn't seem right to me. Googling has proved fruitless. Anyone here collect USF and, if so, how do you calculate it? Or even if you don't collect USF but know

Re: [AFMUG] Ad NETwork

2015-08-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
Well since I had a few questions. We have a product called HS Network Manager. This application is a radius/webserver/payment gateway all in one and allows for ad campaigns on the splash pages without issues. For those interested, sorry for the post on list everyone else: Sample Splash page:

[AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown
I need a client that I can place at a customer location that periodically does a stress test and logs the results. Like to know CIR of up and down as well as latency. Need to have it work with something like speedtest or something else not on our network.

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
There are a lot of tools out there like this, they are used a ton by carriers/mobile providers etc for testing site to site. Not horribly-super expensive (few hundred bucks for the device), but you have to provide the endpoint to test to. I've used Ixia for this in the past, something like

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Tell us why you need to know first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 10:12 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: I seem to vaguely remember someone once telling me it is calculated as a

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
I have a thirst for knowledge. On 8/5/2015 9:21 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Tell us why you need to know first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 10:12 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
So do we :) In Powercode we just added it as a tax. I want to say it was 15.5%? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 10:24 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: I have a thirst for knowledge. On

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Hmm, I felt like there was more to it than that, but maybe I was wrong then. On 8/5/2015 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: So do we :) In Powercode we just added it as a tax. I want to say it was 15.5%? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Haven't done voice in years and I wasn't the to configure it. You can look around if you'd like, hmu off list. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 10:29 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Hmm, I

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown
It has to be something on someone else’s network. It has to withstand allegations that we cooked the tests. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance There are a lot of tools out there like this, they are used a

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
IxChariot allows you to deploy an endpoint into AWS, which I guess the customer could control. Probably the easiest but not necessarily the cheapest. Otherwise, I suppose you could hypothetically hack something together which runs Speedtest.net and takes a screenshot, maybe using something

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Dave Thomas
I thought USF was a flat rate fee? Although it's been 9+ years ago, when I worked for a telco I think I remember it always the same charge on the customers bill. Maybe it was the extended area charge I'm thinking of that was a flat rate. Dave Thomas - Director of Client Relations, Visp,net |

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
https://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support Regards, Chuck On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Haven't done voice in years and I wasn't the to configure it. You can look

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It’s pretty goofy, and it depends on how the end user wants to collect it. The basic version is the feds set a % rate every quarter but it only applies to Interstate phone traffic. If the billing system can keep track of the actual fees charged to the customer for Interstate traffic, or the

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Thanks Chuck, that's what I was looking for and couldn't find. So I guess the complex part is figuring out what counts as interstate revenue, although I seem to recall when I was at TWC, we just assumed everything was interstate unless the customer said otherwise. On 8/5/2015 9:36 AM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Is IxChariot an app or a device? From: Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance IxChariot allows you to deploy an endpoint into AWS, which I guess the customer could control. Probably the easiest but not necessarily

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Maybe that's what it was that I was remembering then, someone needed to charge X% tax on Y% of the revenue. Thanks, that's helpful. On 8/5/2015 9:38 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: It’s pretty goofy, and it depends on how the end user wants to collect it. The basic version is the feds set a % rate

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
That makes it much easier. Plus our switch is out if state so it was a very safe default. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 10:39 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Thanks Chuck, that's what I

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
We go by the 64.9% number that Mark references above. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Thanks Chuck, that's what I was looking for and couldn't find. So I guess the complex part is figuring out what counts as interstate

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Don't quote me, but I think Chariot is the application based one. They have devices too. On 8/5/2015 9:39 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is IxChariot an app or a device? *From:* Simon Westlake mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:36 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
So, if a customer has $100 of services, you charge 17.1% tax on $64.90? Sounds like a pain in the butt. On 8/5/2015 9:40 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We go by the 64.9% number that Mark references above. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Simon Westlake

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread David Sovereen
USF is a tax on interstate phone services. If you charge for intrastate and interstate services separately, you can tax the interstate charges at the USF rate. If you do not, and you can determine the percentage of minutes that are interstate vs intrastate, you can charge USF on that

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Excellent answer! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 10:50 AM, David Sovereen david.sover...@mercury.net wrote: USF is a tax on interstate phone services. If you charge for intrastate and interstate services

Re: [AFMUG] Install Color code link test

2015-08-05 Thread George Skorup
Look at the PMP sections on Cambium's community site. There's the 13.4 P8 NAT unbootable problem. One bug I discovered a week or so ago with 3.6GHz SMs on 13.4.. 5 and 10MHz channel bandwidth scans become unchecked leaving only 7 and 20MHz when you select an FCC region. That's minor, but the

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.samknows.com/ From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 9:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance It has to be something on someone else’s network. It has to withstand allegations that we cooked the tests. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Christopher Gray
If you have python available, you can check speedtest.net using this: https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli I've plans to integrate this option on a small router, but it is pretty far down on my list. -Chris On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has to be

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Randy Cosby
Taking this further... If you have to charge/pay state taxes that are not specified as Gross reciepts taxes, you charge/pay on the intrastate portion: 35.1% x Tax rate. Using Dave's example assuming a 7% state sales tax rate: $25 VoIP Bundle 35.1% = Intrastate = $8.78 Intrastate $8.78 * 7%

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245 km

2015-08-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
When someone mentions record in the same sentence with a microwave link I always think unreliable. Not that it matters in this case but I rarely see the point. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: We connected a link from Pike’s Peak to Cheyenne,

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Interesting, source code too. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 9:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance https://www.samknows.com/ From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 9:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks From: Christopher Gray Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 9:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance If you have python available, you can check speedtest.net using this: https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli I've plans to integrate this option on a small

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Does the article mention that earth curvature + Fresnel radius at that distance is 3072 feet? Hence going between mountain peaks. Everyone here knows that, but the schools are not what they once were, and some people think the earth is flat. Probably at least a couple of the candidates in

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
You should be bullet proof if someone complains to the FCC the test is not accurate, since that’s the one they use. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance Interesting, source code too. From: Ken Hohhof Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Yeah, this is really cool. Hadn't seen it before. Looks like you have to sign up and hope for the best though. On 8/5/2015 11:17 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: You should be bullet proof if someone complains to the FCC the test is not accurate, since that�s the one they use. *From:* Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We did the 5.6 beta and went through the probe fixes some time back. Haven't added any probes. These situations require liberal applications of swear words and liquor to troubleshoot when home at night and would rather be doing something other than troubleshooting. I have an open ticket with

Re: [AFMUG] powercode monitoring dead

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Probe tab? Really doubt it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 5, 2015 12:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: We did the 5.6 beta and went through the probe fixes some time back. Haven't added any

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Software

2015-08-05 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
I don’t know if this has already been suggested but I really like the One Page Project Management excel sheet… There are lots of resources relating to using this resource well: https://oppmi.com/ https://oppmi.com/ Sincerely, Joshaven Potter MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA Google Hangouts:

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread David Sovereen
What is and is not subject to sales tax differs from state to state. In Michigan and Wisconsin, the two states in which we operate, all telephony services delivered to an address in that state are subject to sales tax—intrastate, interstate, and international. You should definitely check with

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Randy Cosby
Right. There is another fee (I don't recall what it was called) our state charges that is based on gross receipts. Check with your CPA's, etc. and see if you're throwing too much money back to the state, but don't do it without knowing for sure. On 8/5/2015 11:25 AM, David Sovereen wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-05 Thread Rory Conaway
They aren’t as hard as aligning a pair of Bridgewave 80GHz radios at 5 miles though. That’s like trying to pull a smartphone out of your left pocket with your right hand at a full sprint. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:44

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-05 Thread Mathew Howard
I imagine it would be pretty useless for those of us that don't live in a desert. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: All I heard was “80 GHz at 5 miles”. If that works, it would be worth the trouble. *From:* Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-05 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve seen a pair up at 8 miles but if someone spits within a few hundred feet, it went down. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 11:02 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios? I imagine it would

[AFMUG] High Speed Wisp in Orange County, CA

2015-08-05 Thread Chris Herrington
I have looking for 100 Mpbs circuit quickly in Garden Grove, Orange County, CA. The Wireless I can do, or Not, but need a quick provider in the area. Thanks, Chris H Chris Herrington, PMP, RCDD/OSPWD Specialist FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440 cid:image001.jpg@01CE86F2.B9D9CF30 Full

Re: [AFMUG] Proving performance

2015-08-05 Thread TJ Trout
how about a mikrotik for $30 bucks and a script to run btest ? On Aug 5, 2015 9:20 AM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Yeah, this is really cool. Hadn't seen it before. Looks like you have to sign up and hope for the best though. On 8/5/2015 11:17 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-05 Thread Stefan Englhardt
We ordered our first 42GHz/112MHz SAF Integras now. We avoid 80GHz as we guess it is more problematic (and not cheaper here). And we want to stay with SAF. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Datum: 05.08.2015 20:02 (GMT+01:00) An: af

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-05 Thread Ray Savich
We were using 3 ft. standard performance dishes from tire-mount masts at 5.8 GHz. Ran the link at 5, 30 and 45 MHz channels and had receive signals of approximately -76 dBm even while battling some pretty heavy winds. We were running a high-def video link and a VoIP server over the channel.

[AFMUG] Wrap indoor radios with plastic?

2015-08-05 Thread Christopher Gray
I have some radios installed behind windows that I agreed to hide or paint to reduce their visibility. Rather than painting them, I thought I might hang or wrap a black plastic bag on them. Is there a specific type of plastic or thickness I should look for when doing so? Would I be better off

Re: [AFMUG] Wrap indoor radios with plastic?

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Almost any plastic bag will work just fine. Just avoid silvery static bags or anything that might have a metallic coating like aluminized mylar space blanket type of stuff. From: Christopher Gray Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Wrap indoor radios

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
3.48 kms is only one I have done. Fickle as hell. On Aug 5, 2015 12:04 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’ve seen a pair up at 8 miles but if someone spits within a few hundred feet, it went down. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
In other breaking news: The sun rises in the east! Check out their video of them at some fancy food expo serving McDonald's. The food critics are hilariously ignorant. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:25

[AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adore Android

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Prince
http://www.cnet.com/news/heres-proof-that-apple-fanboys-actually-adore-android/ -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

Re: [AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location

2015-08-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yes. You are wrong. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015, 7:04 PM Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote: Guys I had an customer emailed me and asked me if I provide internet access in his area and I told him currently I dont. Then he asked me what it would take for me get net access to his

Re: [AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location

2015-08-05 Thread Tim Reichhart
What kind of price are we talking about? Tim -Original Message- From: Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Date: 08/05/15 08:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location Yes. You are wrong.  On Wed, Aug 5, 2015, 7:04 PM Tim

Re: [AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location

2015-08-05 Thread Eric Rogers
My best guess would be $10-15k for a lightweight tower. For a REAL self support tower that can handle at minimum 10 sq ft of surface area, I wouldn't touch it for less than $20k. That's with them applying for all permits. In Indiana, ALL towers constructed after Jan 1, 2015 they must be

Re: [AFMUG] cost and kind of tower to install at customer location

2015-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
As long as nobody is climbing or putting equipment on it, you're good On Aug 5, 2015 7:35 PM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: My best guess would be $10-15k for a lightweight tower. For a REAL self support tower that can handle at minimum 10 sq ft of surface area, I wouldn't touch

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245 km

2015-08-05 Thread Daniel White
There are some old licensed links running that path too… carrying video traffic for Fox News I think. Great accomplishment considering no space diversity and the small antennas. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype:

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating USF

2015-08-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Yeah, it is amazing. I spent some time today digging into taxes on communications services, and voice in particular, the rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper the further you go down it. On 8/5/2015 5:50 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Dave you are correct in pointing out that stuff varies from

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km

2015-08-05 Thread Daniel White
Pikes Peak is tall… and the path between there and Cheyenne, WY is relatively flat. But Pikes Peak is 9000ft+ AGL. LOS certainly exists. On a clear day, I can see Pikes Peak from where I live which is about 80 miles away as the crow flies (and I feel like I can see the entire mountain from

Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?

2015-08-05 Thread Daniel White
When I was at BridgeWave I helped install a 7.5mi 80GHz link for a city. It closed a fiber ring… so it was a backup. They figured the low availability was okay… capacity if the rest of the ring crashed was more important. Aligning it wasn’t too bad :-D Thank you, Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adoreAndroid

2015-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's true. That's why they have Genius Bar. Not really trying to argue here, but their support over Windows/PC is flat out awesome. Take it for a ride one day and go to one of their stores...they make it easy, they personally take the time to teach their clients things, and they even hold