Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Whether you use /24, /29, or /30 on your interfaces, the routing should work the same way, though, right? You shouldn’t have a stranded backhaul in a meshed network running OSPF/internal BGP. If the link is actually hardware down or even has hardware up but non-functional, the routing table

Re: [AFMUG] Toronto roadshow...also an upcoming Toronto Telrad certification training

2015-08-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Ah man.. and I'm going to be in Mississauga that week too but on Juniper training that week .. maybe next time.:) Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Toronto roadshow...also an

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think the problem he’s referring to is the default gateway programmed in the radio. From: Hass, Douglas A. Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Whether you use /24, /29, or /30 on your interfaces, the

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
I prefer to think of it as paving the way for you to learn and deploy IPv6. You should thank me for making the IoT possible. :-p From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
We did a video years ago showing the pull out forces with several mounting methods. The stud is extremely important. The forceplate made the dish and mount stronger than the roof as I recall. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
On one of them we shredded the metal of the foot. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting I remember the videoI think you broke the J-pipe. On 8/26/2015 3:50 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We did a video

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Sure—but in the middle of the night, the last thing I wanted to do was fire up a second system to crack the code for my IP numbering. If I knew that site 30 was down, I could go right to it. It can’t be avoided sometimes with public IPs, for sure (though I was lucky and had an entire public

Re: [AFMUG] Fort Worth on track to replace old water meters with electronic system | The Star Telegram

2015-08-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
Technically I don't think it is full duplex but the Rx and TX are separated because of the number of devices for efficiency sake. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 9:15 AM Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Full duplex stuff like old 9710s? Sorry MDS radios? On Aug 26, 2015 7:23 AM, Lewis

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
It's because of your generation of wasting IPs we have a shortage now =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote: Oh, yes. The whole /16. J Gotta love how IP

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
My biggest hurdles are protruding terrain features and trees. One of my colleagues asserted that having the two spatial paths might provide two chances to find a path through the woods. It sounds simultaneously plausible and crazy, and I don't have enough background knowledge to say one way

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread TJ Trout
Chinese On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote: Mike basically rob haas was helping me out on this he sent me an little cheat sheet like this: a /29 – 255.255.255.248 is what I use on the backhauls Each Site is assign a site number – say 33

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Ya I was going to say is anyone else freaked out the lawyer knows subnetting? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How much can you really believe networking advice

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
That's what IPPlan etc is for. Or Excel spreadsheet/Powercode/Dude/Wispmon/etc Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote: Exactly. The site ID piece gets confusing

[AFMUG] uGPS

2015-08-26 Thread Paul McCall
Anybody have a couple of these that they want to sell cheap? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Baird
An entire 'Class B'? A /16? On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote: Sure—but in the middle of the night, the last thing I wanted to do was fire up a second system to crack the code for my IP numbering. If I knew that site 30 was down, I could go right to

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
A new lawyer is like someone with a CCNA. Doesn’t really mean much. I had to deal with one that was dumb as a box of rocks. She interned for free at some kind of immigration clinic for a few months in Florida as her sole experience prior to being hired as corporate counsel (not by me).

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Force plates worked well and we might even still have a few around. http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=RETRODECKutm_campaign=baseutm_medium=organicutm_source=google_basegclid=Cj0KEQjwx_WuBRDJ7tSK2-W0pJkBEiQAEWgR8Jo-Lmaa0c2X0UfLzo_OygRDUe3nvKdcmuUcmGxiLOgaAk3b8P8HAQ

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I remember the videoI think you broke the J-pipe. On 8/26/2015 3:50 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We did a video years ago showing the pull out forces with several mounting methods. The stud is extremely important. The forceplate made the dish and mount stronger than the roof as I recall.

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread David Sovereen
Do you have installation instructions for these dishes? I don’t see any on your web site, but perhaps I’m looking in the wrong spot. Thanks, Dave On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:50 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We did a video years ago showing the pull out forces with several mounting

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Exactly. The site ID piece gets confusing if you try to number by backhaul. I think it makes more sense to assign subnets by physical location. Tower site 1: 10.100.1.x/24 Tower site 20: 10.100.20.x/24 Tower site 30: 10.100.30.x/24 And so forth. This still lets you do something consistent

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
I’ve been doing networking longer than I’ve been an attorney? ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Ya I was going to say is anyone else

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Baird
You should have valid DNS reverse/forward DNS anyways, right? If you do, your traceroutes will make perfect sense. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Joshua Stump jst...@fourway.net wrote: This is pretty much what we do as well. DNS is a must for the /30s if you want to make sense of your

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Oh, yes. The whole /16. ☺ Gotta love how IP addresses got handed out back in the good ol’ days… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard An entire

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Well, at this point, I fall far more into that latter category than the former, but I agree. It’s hard to hire someone who has no work or legal experience beyond what they got during summers in law school and undergrad. If you’ve never been in the real world before, it takes a few years to

[AFMUG] Toronto roadshow...also an upcoming Toronto Telrad certification training

2015-08-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Hey folks, We are conducting a roadshow for eastern Canadian operators and other interested parties on October 20. Hit me offlist if you wish to have a seat reserved. We will visit a working customer site as part of this. Tuesday, October 20, 2015 from 10:00am to 5:00pm Courtyard Marriott

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
If that's the WB SL, then that mount is too long for that size dish. To get that height tou'll need one with a stabalizer arm, or a tripod. Also the force required to pull out the lags will be 3x greater if you hit a stud. You might try lagging through the center holes on the mount into a

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Joshua Stump
This is pretty much what we do as well. DNS is a must for the /30s if you want to make sense of your traceroutes unless you've got some sort of android memory... On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote: Exactly. The site ID piece gets confusing if you try to

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Note that this op-ed was written by someone who is hawking a book called “The Lawyer Bubble: A Profession in Crisis.” It omits two important points: 1) Your student loan debt could be $50 million and it wouldn’t matter. Student loan repayments are based on a (very low) percentage of a

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe I'm misunderstanding. 3db is the correct adjustment for 2x2. I asked the vendor if I had to reduce by 6db when using 4x4, and they told me no, only 3. On 8/26/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 3 dB is half power, so that is correct even assuming they are summed. *From:* Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
You can't have overlapping subnets. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:52:43 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Issues with

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I believe you can do it in the routing table and it will work because the more specific route will prevail. For example, you can blackhole route the whole /24 but route a /29 somewhere or even have it as a direct connect. An example would be handing out /32’s via PPPoE but blackhole routing

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
Historically, spatial diversity was used on long paths over non varying terrain, like deserts and lakes. Things that give off what is called specular reflections and weather refraction effects. Shooting from mountain to mountain over a bowl shaped valley is pretty bad for multipath. For

[AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Tim Reichhart
Hi guys I am having bit of an issue getting /29 to work in routerboard. What I am looking to do is put 172.16.2.x/29 on ether2 but I already have 172.16.2.1/24on ether1. So I don't know what I am missing here.

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I did not, no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:58:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
If the subnet is /24 everywhere you can't change it. You can't break it down. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 26, 2015 1:09 PM, Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote: I was told to take that /24 and break it

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Can you tell us the bigger picture of what's going on so we can help better? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
are you being handed the /24? have it routed into the device by a smaller or different subnet, but if the devices connected to ether1 have a /24 they will never be able to communicate with the distributed space or vice versa On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Tim Reichhart

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Back to your original question, though—you would have to renumber if you’re already using a /24 on an interface and now want to carve that particular /24 up in /29s. But if you’re using private IP space, why limit yourself to /29s everywhere? Particularly if each site would have a site

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Tim Reichhart
Mike basically rob haas was helping me out on this he sent me an little cheat sheet like this: a /29 – 255.255.255.248 is what I use on the backhauls Each Site is assign a site number – say 33 Every site is assigned a /24 for management with my IP scheme of 10.100.site.X The first backhauls

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the remote router at the other end would have a different site id necessitating a different third octet than in this scheme, it wont work On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote: Mike basically rob haas was helping me out on this he sent me an

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
They need a backup career since law schools are cranking out more graduates than there are jobs. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/opinion/too-many-law-students-too-few-legal-jobs.html From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
On the tx power issue, I was also told that I only have to lower tx power by 3 when using the 4x4. Apparently the time offset between the two pairs of chains means their power is not summed. On 8/26/2015 11:51 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: FWIW, Purewave sold us a 6x6 panel made by Mars that was

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Tim Reichhart
Guys I think I will just leave it as is Sorry for wasting you guys time on this issue. Thanks Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Date: 08/26/15 02:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard How much can you really

[AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- MikroTik and other questions

2015-08-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
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Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
FWIW, Purewave sold us a 6x6 panel made by Mars that was essentially three 2x2 sectors in one panel. They told us the WiMAX super sauce would work better with three individual 2x2 antennas spaced a few feet apart. But a lot of what PW told us was BS (and I don’t mean BaseStation). I never

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Cameron Crum
Chuck, wasn't that type of space diversity more vertical than horizontal for those long uW shots? On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: 3 dB is half power, so that is correct even assuming they are summed. *From:* Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Cameron Crum
Agreed. It was always my rule of thumb to use vertical for long stationary shots and horizontal for severe environments like urban. suburban, or mobile in general. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yes, but any direction helps some. Depends on the nature of the

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Rory Conaway
Part of the idea between spatial diversity is creating a second path that won't have the same obstructions. Take this out of the idea of the MIMO technology and simply go with the idea that possibly one path will have different or less tree blockage/absorption or possibly that reflections are

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* In the routing table, but not the interfaces. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:04:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
It sounds like the /24 is just conceptual for keeping track of these private IP blocks, don’t actually assign it to any interface. Assign /29 subnets to interfaces as needed. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
Yes, but any direction helps some. Depends on the nature of the reflection. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much? Chuck, wasn't that type of space diversity more vertical than horizontal for

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
How much can you really believe networking advice from an attorney? ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Douglas A. Hass d...@franczek.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:59:51 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
In my experience, both are true, but it depends on the frequency, the tree, atmospheric conditions, and whether the trees are wet or dry. I recall a subscriber that is ~~ .5 mile from a 900 MHz AP. NLOS the whole way. We put the SM on the highest point in the house, and the signal would go in

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
3 dB is half power, so that is correct even assuming they are summed. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much? On the tx power issue, I was also told that I only have to lower tx power by 3 when

Re: [AFMUG] FCC orders damages in Beehive Telephone affiliated shamtelecoms case

2015-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Thats right man, never admit nuthin to them feds!! I do not recall Thats all they need to know. :-) On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Thankfully, in 2008 I negotiated a deal that got Beehive’s foot out of the trap. But I have not been at Beehive for 2 years. Life is

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I think youre doing what we are doing I just defined a 172.31.0.0/24 for backhauls to be splitting up, maintaining a third octet was a mess. these router IPs are socondary IPs on the interface to the primary router/ospf communication Going site one to site two uses 2 /30 Router 1 -172.31.0.1/30

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I think what he was saying is having a /24 per site. Ether1 being wan, goes to your backhauls or upstream. Ether2 being the tower site. This means that site33 would be: 1.1.33.1/24 meaning your Aps and radios or whatever would be 1.1.33.2 through 20. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Site 33: 10.100.33.0/24 (.1 local radio, .2 local router, .101 remote radio, .102 remote router) Site 34: 10.100.34.0/24 (.1 local radio, .2 local router, .101 remote radio, .102 remote router) If these are talking to one another with this scheme, the routers may be able to have

Re: [AFMUG] FCC orders damages in Beehive Telephone affiliated shamtelecoms case

2015-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you callin chuck a didnadunuffin? On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: No. Its, I didn't do nothing!. On Aug 26, 2015 11:33 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Thats right man, never admit nuthin to them feds!! I do not

Re: [AFMUG] FCC orders damages in Beehive Telephone affiliated shamtelecoms case

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Petermann
No, its “what difference at this point does it make!” Preferably in a shrill voice. On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: No. Its, I didn't do nothing!. On Aug 26, 2015 11:33 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Thats right

[AFMUG] Rain page update

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I know a couple of people are using my rain page and copied it for their own use (and regions). Wunderground is updating their imagery and today the NA map started breaking. That would be easy to steal. If you need a hand with the regional one just ask. http://inxwireless.com/rain Josh

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] Rain page update

2015-08-26 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I use this map: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?brand=wxmapquery=47.86729,-121.77296lat=47.86729lon=-121.77296zoom=10type=terunits=englishwxsn=1wxsn.mode=twrad=0sat=0 -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294

Re: [AFMUG] Fort Worth on track to replace old water meters with electronic system | The Star Telegram

2015-08-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
We put that in the years ago. Most use licensed spectrum in the 900 band above and below 902-928. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 11:41 PM Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article32398953.html

Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector Early Early Beta self-resetting firmware.

2015-08-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Ok, I've got it up on tickets.packetflux.com.See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=4 Please be careful with this initially. I've made a couple of minor modifications to clean up a couple of recently reported issues with the beta, and it should be ready to go. But I haven't done

Re: [AFMUG] App for Wireless signal visualization?

2015-08-26 Thread David
Thats called the RF goggle APP On 08/25/2015 07:42 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I bet a modern high-end machine (with good software) could do it. Might need to add a Tesla (not the car) to it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Platypus question

2015-08-26 Thread Philip Rankin
I use Plat. I like it very well. Once you understand it, it is extremely versatile and does everything my wisp needs. We do pppoe, but it is capable of much, much more. It's very inexpensive.

Re: [AFMUG] custom outdoor fiber cable made and delivered by Friday?

2015-08-26 Thread Jeremy
I have also had good luck with discountlowvoltage.com On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: fibercables.com probably could. I've used them before Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Any company that

Re: [AFMUG] App for Wireless signal visualization?

2015-08-26 Thread Cameron Crum
I don't know Mike, some of those systems used distributed computing on dozens of Spark 20s and still took hours to run. None of them were using really advanced models so straight propagation wasn't that bad, but the interference analysis, and simulation stuff is what really killed it. On Wed, Aug

Re: [AFMUG] App for Wireless signal visualization?

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
It looks like the Sparc 20s that Pixar used in Toy Story were 27.5066 MFLOPS each. A Tesla K40 add-in card does between 1.43 Tflops and 4.29 Tflops, depending on double or single precision. That's over 54k times more flops in a single add-in card. It may be out of the reach of your average Joe,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Low Energy Nuclear

2015-08-26 Thread Rory Conaway
This invention has been the subject of huge skepticism by the scientific community. Rossi won’t let anyone see it close enough to determine if it’s a sham and at the same time, he has passed tests that he tightly controls. However, Lockheed is claiming that they will have a reactor similar to

[AFMUG] custom outdoor fiber cable made and delivered by Friday?

2015-08-26 Thread Paul McCall
Any company that can do this? 240ft MM LC Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] FCC orders damages in Beehive Telephone affiliated shamtelecoms case

2015-08-26 Thread Cameron Crum
LOL Wolf of Wall St! For few hundred k, as the Wolf of Salt Lake, instead of high priced call girls on a yacht with cocaine and champagne, it would be an old bass boat with a $2 dollar whore, some meth and sixer of miller high life. At least that is the Champagne of Beers. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Fort Worth on track to replace old water meters with electronic system | The Star Telegram

2015-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Full duplex stuff like old 9710s? Sorry MDS radios? On Aug 26, 2015 7:23 AM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: We put that in the years ago. Most use licensed spectrum in the 900 band above and below 902-928. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 11:41 PM Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] FCC orders damages in Beehive Telephone affiliated shamtelecoms case

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
Thankfully, in 2008 I negotiated a deal that got Beehive’s foot out of the trap. But I have not been at Beehive for 2 years. Life is much more calm for me these days. The FCC is just plain wrong. Beehive never ever created those other companies nor was there any cross ownership or

[AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
There are a couple of products out there selling 4x4 MIMO (Telrad is one, but there are others). In Telrad's case, two of the chains have a time offset from the other two, so you get two chains on each of two polarities. Their default antenna is a single sector antenna with 4 N-connectors on

Re: [AFMUG] custom outdoor fiber cable made and delivered by Friday?

2015-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
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Re: [AFMUG] custom outdoor fiber cable made and delivered by Friday?

2015-08-26 Thread Darin Steffl
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Re: [AFMUG] custom outdoor fiber cable made and delivered by Friday?

2015-08-26 Thread Jon Langeler
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Re: [AFMUG] FCC orders damages in Beehive Telephone affiliated shamtelecoms case

2015-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
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Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread David Milholen
Spatial Diversity is mainly used to over come multipath issues or a link that will stretch the curvature of the earth. It is really interesting what link planner does when you configure for spatial diversity on a link. There are a ton of factors that go into getting reliability,throughput or

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] Rain page update

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting

2015-08-26 Thread chuck
Not sure ... we used to put a paper in the box. Most folks know to put dish on tube etc. Not really sure what you are asking. From: David Sovereen Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: ePMP mounting Do you have installation instructions for

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2015-08-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Does anyone have any updates on this?

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Robert Haas
Tim has an odd issue with some bridged interfaces and overlapping addressing so I was telling him to subnet and renumber hence my ‘cheat sheet’, unfortunately I’ve praying to the porcelain god and I wasn’t able to follow up with him on his next set of questions which lead him to ask here.

Re: [AFMUG] Spacial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Cameron Crum
Spatial diversity is primarily used to combat multi-path. If you have clear los, your chances of bad multi-path are fairly small and you probably won't see a lot of benefit. If you have a lot of objects between you and the tower that can cause reflections, then it will help more. Simple enough?

Re: [AFMUG] Spatial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Brian Webster
Trees that are not in the near field of either end of the path will cause some diffraction, if that is the case spatial diversity may help. While trees do cause attenuation of you are shooting over the top of some trees and not directly though the main mass of the trees you can sometimes get

Re: [AFMUG] Spatial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I bought a small WISP in 2005 and inherited a 10 mile 2.4 GHz PTP link that went over a hill, totally NLOS, using 802.11b (smartBridges APPO). Very consistent performance. How did it work? Magic. Unfortunately the next hop was to a private water tower that the owner decided was cheaper to

Re: [AFMUG] Spatial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Magical link was Kirkland to FS Sycamore, next hop was FS to Ideal, then Ideal to Cortland. All with airPoint Pro Outdoor. Might have been an airPoint XO2 in there. FS had a MiLan switch and maybe an Intel router in a Rubbermaid tub up on the grain leg. A tower guy forgot to put the brick

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard

2015-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or you could go work for the FCC, where an ass is as good as an elbow. From: Hass, Douglas A. Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with doing /29 inside of routerboard Well, at this point, I fall far more into that latter category than the

Re: [AFMUG] Spatial Diversity - helps how much?

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
From where to Ideal? Kirkland? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:59:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spatial Diversity - helps how much?