Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Thanks for posting these Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:19 AM Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report differing from Aug

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report differing from Aug 26 to Aug 27 https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346369A1.pdf 9 radio stations out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 report) 6 more switching centers,

Re: [AFMUG] Adam Ruins Everything - Internet episode

2017-08-27 Thread Jason McKemie
This guy's videos are usually pretty entertaining. On Sunday, August 27, 2017, Rory Conaway wrote: > It’s extremely informative and actually pretty funny. He covers how the > cable companies got their monopoly to how they are protecting it. > > > > *Rory Conaway **•

[AFMUG] Adam Ruins Everything - Internet episode

2017-08-27 Thread Rory Conaway
It's extremely informative and actually pretty funny. He covers how the cable companies got their monopoly to how they are protecting it. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] epmp 2.4

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Sounds like noise at the tower... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 27, 2017 8:23 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > Agreed. Will give it a shot. Firmware too > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
VOIP phones? On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > Emergency management wouldnt probably allow just wifi, would need to bring > meat to the table to get granted access. > > On Aug 27, 2017 8:12 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Manufacturer MTBF ratings and actual lifespan of product

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
Lol they poured a dixie cup of water in the parking lot On Aug 27, 2017 8:13 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Im curious how "rigorous" that the 450 testing was done on AP's > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Steve Jones > wrote: > >> I

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
Emergency management wouldnt probably allow just wifi, would need to bring meat to the table to get granted access. On Aug 27, 2017 8:12 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > I'm thinking just get wifi established in the shelters, most smart phones > now can do Wifi Calling

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Thanks for the explanation, helps us in getting a better understanding of the function and features. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From:

Re: [AFMUG] gig power injectors

2017-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Throw the switch in there and you'll find out real fast which one is not negotiating at Gig-E. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 6:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > will do :) > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] Manufacturer MTBF ratings and actual lifespan of product

2017-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Im curious how "rigorous" that the 450 testing was done on AP's On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > I think when they did the 320 they had a boatloaf lots but that was > performance. > > Component testing is pretty rigorous, unit not so much. I like

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I'm thinking just get wifi established in the shelters, most smart phones now can do Wifi Calling so their existing number would still be usable. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > Wisps have the opportunity to really shine interconnecting response

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I've paid $250 to have someone power cycle a box before, so yeah. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 27,

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
Smart hands are usually pretty expensive in datacenters arent they? Should be a dick and use it for some routine maintenance On Aug 27, 2017 7:50 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I did just get an e-mail update from one of the datacenters we're working > with in Houston. Parking

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I did just get an e-mail update from one of the datacenters we're working with in Houston. Parking lot drainage is still working as expected, no hiccups from utility power, etc. You *can* still drive there, though they advise you don't and are offering free smart hands to keep people away.

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
Wisps have the opportunity to really shine interconnecting response agencies if the right contacts were made. A convoy of wisp cows heading into texas would be awesome on wispa documents. I wonder if i could get the boss to loan out our portable tower. Interconnect regionally, locate temporary

Re: [AFMUG] epmp 2.4

2017-08-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Yep, probably not a lot you can do other than improving the signal - a Force 200 is going to be the best way to do that. On Aug 27, 2017 7:24 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > Agreed. Will give it a shot. Firmware too > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > >

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't remember what happened to that. I'm fairly sure he had it within the last year he still had his WISP. He moved to California. Maybe he moved the rest of his crap out there in that? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Mike Anderson might still have the motorhome... ;-) From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage Maybe WISPA members can organize some sort of emergency response team through the Red Cross to provide connectivity to the

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
No. WECAT is as far as I'm aware, fully operational. Someone just hijacked their FB page and won't give it back to the organization. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] epmp 2.4

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Agreed. Will give it a shot. Firmware too Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "George Skorup" To: Subject: [AFMUG] epmp 2.4 Date: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 7:11 PM They released 3.5 last week. I'm running it on a couple

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Maybe WISPA members can organize some sort of emergency response team through the Red Cross to provide connectivity to the shelters. I would help with something like that. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel.

Re: [AFMUG] epmp 2.4

2017-08-27 Thread George Skorup
They released 3.5 last week. I'm running it on a couple sites. Seems fine so far. The throughput improvements involve basic bridge config. No extra QoS, no L2/L3 firewall rules. Basically like MikroTik's fast-path. Jay, I think Force200's are going to be your best bet. If your uplink speeds

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
So is that saying wecat is effectively done and a doomsday cult, or that its still functionally eccentric but functional? On Aug 27, 2017 6:40 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I've been messaging people on FB telling them to unfollow that page > because Tori hijacked it when

Re: [AFMUG] epmp 2.4

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
The current beta rc says it has throughput improvements, may look into that On Aug 27, 2017 6:00 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > I will post this on the epmp forums a bit later but aside from improving > the upload signal or changing the downlink ratio on a timed

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I've been messaging people on FB telling them to unfollow that page because Tori hijacked it when ejected from WECAT. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen"

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
The martial arts cognuscenti will recognize this technique executed by Juju who just turned 3 last week.. Jaime Solorza On Aug 27, 2017 10:24 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Yep, stance was issue..I don't like women beaters and arrogance, but he is > a great

[AFMUG] epmp 2.4

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I will post this on the epmp forums a bit later but aside from improving the upload signal or changing the downlink ratio on a timed EPMP system is there any way to improve the upload? We have a few customers I know with signals in the mid 70s on 2.4 that are getting 10-15 meg down but less

Re: [AFMUG] OT Volkswagen engineer

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
Wont need to make anything, nobody to buy stuff, everyones in prison On Aug 27, 2017 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > How else will our privatized prisons have the labor to make the cheap > products they make?! > > On Aug 27, 2017 1:02 PM, "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] gig power injectors

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
will do :) - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] gig power injectors They are gig. Change the patch. On Aug 27, 2017 5:14 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] gig power injectors

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
They are gig. Change the patch. On Aug 27, 2017 5:14 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > This is on a parking decknot 15 feet to the radiospower supplies > are like 4 feet apart. > i have not changed out the patch cable yet...but i thought it was a bit > thin. >

[AFMUG] Residual income

2017-08-27 Thread Af
While I wouldn’t say affiliate marketing is entirely residual, it does provide somewhat of a passive income source. Meaning, the amount of money I make is not tied to my time. I don’t get paid by the hour, I get paid per sale, and since my websites are working 24/7/365, sometimes I

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
hahaha - that brings back memories! - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 Did you ever use the original ePMP? From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
it is my understanding one of the people appointed to run it (Victoria) took it and went full "prepper" status with it. WISPA cut ties with that particular entity. "WECAT" is still up and running as a separate non-wispa sponsored entity and is headed by either Brian Webster or Forbes Mercy I

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
fair point.. I was referring more to the concept of ATPC, which would allow one to turn up the power under signal fade conditions. with the B11, when configured with coordinated power, the signal can be rather Hot, and these radios will (auto) turn down power, and maintain performance. It

Re: [AFMUG] gig power injectors

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
This is on a parking decknot 15 feet to the radiospower supplies are like 4 feet apart. i have not changed out the patch cable yet...but i thought it was a bit thin. thought i'd ask here first. i'll try changing out the patch cable next i did verify the patch cable was not one of those

Re: [AFMUG] OT Volkswagen engineer

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
How else will our privatized prisons have the labor to make the cheap products they make?! On Aug 27, 2017 1:02 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > I say put everybody in jail, all of them. Kids, women, even cats, just > lock every living thing up, ameoba pruaons might be a

Re: [AFMUG] gig power injectors

2017-08-27 Thread George Skorup
Keep the loop length in mind when using a patch cable. If it's 200 feet from the cabinet to the AP and 150 feet from the cabinet to the AF24, then total loop length is 350 feet which is over the 100m spec. If length isn't an issue, are you using surge suppressors? Also, one pin missing on any

Re: [AFMUG] Todays ground man

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wow Jaime Solorza On Aug 27, 2017 11:57 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Mailmans offspring, i just provide room and board. > > On Aug 27, 2017 9:05 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> One of your offspring? >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Saturday,

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lots of small communities down there with canals, creeks, ponds, and bayous...heard waste water plants are failing.. plus lots of oil and diesel tanks...I am guessing contaminated areas plus critters and snakessaw several trucks with COWS heading east a while ago on I-10. Jaime Solorza On

[AFMUG] gig power injectors

2017-08-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
We have an airfiber feeding a single 5 ghz airprism ubnt device. Selling high packages. Initially the two are just connected together with a patch cable from lan to lan on the power injectors. noticed they are only connecting at 100 meg. I suspected they'd connect at a gig. Before I replace

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Rick Harnish
The news says Houston in the fourth largest city in the US. I never would have guessed that! Prayers for everyone down there suffering.Respectfully,Rick HarnishDirector of WISP MarketsDirect: 972.922.1443Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DroidOn Aug 27, 2017 10:57

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/27/17 11:16 AM, Steve Jones wrote: But as far as the wisps go, does wispa still have that distaster response thing that was set up after cullman? I think someone took WECAT and went full sov cit prepper nutter with it.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Volkswagen engineer

2017-08-27 Thread Bill Prince
Put 'em there with "the Mooch"! Front stabbers. All of 'em. bp On 8/27/2017 11:02 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I say put everybody in jail, all of them. Kids, women, even cats, just lock every living thing up, ameoba pruaons might be a task. Just lock it all up.

Re: [AFMUG] Manufacturer MTBF ratings and actual lifespan of product

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
I think when they did the 320 they had a boatloaf lots but that was performance. Component testing is pretty rigorous, unit not so much. I like seeing time lapse of that stuff, watching polymer bake the equivalent of 100 years in a test chamber, or slowly sandblast away. On Aug 26, 2017 5:34 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Rural? That is hilarious. There is a county near me that has only one cell site. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017, 12:39 PM wrote: > We get 15 inches per year here... > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:32 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Todays ground man

2017-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
Mailmans offspring, i just provide room and board. On Aug 27, 2017 9:05 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > One of your offspring? > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Todays ground man > > This little bastard

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
FYI, ATPC (Automatic Transmit Power Control) is practiced by the Mimosa B11 but it is done a bit differently. First of all There is a function built into the Mimosa B11 which allows them to back off Tx Power. (Latest firmware). 2nd, The Mimosa Radios have an uncanny ability to deal with

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread chuck
We get 15 inches per year here... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain areas, with 10 inches expected in the next few days.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread chuck
But with three nines, the outage may be 1 second long outages 43 times a day. Or perhaps they are 1 millisecond outages every other second. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 Depends on how much you value sleeping at

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Jason Wilson
>From NANOG last night. Hurrican Harvey DIRS report 5 radio stations out of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and KAYK) 149,909 cable and wireline subscribers out of service (5 switching centers out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup power) 4% of cell sites out of service

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Of course it's common practice. It can, but not normally. You're often paying for the mounting location or level, not a minor increase in dish size if that is even needed. On Aug 27, 2017 12:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Is that a common practice? And doesn’t that add

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Bill Prince
I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain areas, with > 10 inches expected in the next few days. Rockport seems to be the hardest hit. bp On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down in

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Bill Prince
Depends on how much you value sleeping at night. Five nines of reliability gets you a calculated 5 minutes of downtime per year. Three nines gets you a calculated 4-1/2 hours of downtime per year. How much is the extra 4 hours and 25 minutes worth to you? NOTE: All times are approximate.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Is that a common practice? And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a monthly basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex? Do you find it is worth that additional cost? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:59 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep, stance was issue..I don't like women beaters and arrogance, but he is a great boxer..Maidiana? was the one I thought would knock him out...Canelo too green and slow at that time. Sugar Ray and Hitman fights are still among my favorites...when my son came back from military police training,

[AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down in Hill Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San Antonio and especially Houston but haven't heard about Austin, Llano, Marble Falls, etc. I have some Cambium 180s spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay safe Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
His stance kept his biggest weapon very far back. I would have expected better clinch work from Conor, which his Thai experience and size advantage. For coming up in MMA in 5 years with no pro boxing experience, Conor did amazing in a game that only allows punching. Floyd is a tactical and

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread chuck
Never could get my kids to spar much with me. Just a little bit. One son landed a good one on my jaw once and I think it bothered him so much that he would never join me again. To me it was fun. A bit of a zap on the chin just jacks up the fun a bit. In real life, fights with an equal

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
My seven children have all been taught hand to hand by me. I was taught by my dad and later Mr. Compean before I took formal lessons with Cliff Thomas. I recommend boxing for footwork, head movement , slipping and parrying, judo/jujitsu/wrestling for dealing with bigger and stronger opponents ,

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
It was ok fight. McGregor missed several opportunities to try that uppercut that almost landed solid in second round. His stance kept him from digging in punches. His instincts go back to defending leg kicks or shooting... Mayweather would be on mat within seconds and choked out against a

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
... You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and still hit a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate for fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be legal. On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway"

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Rory Conaway
When the coordinator creates the link, that should be calculated in the path budget. I’m assuming the power output at maximum modulation is part of that calculation. I’ve only done 3 links and have never seen any need for ATPC. They all came in at the maximum modulation rate of the antenna,

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link? Rory Original message From: Mathew Howard Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00) To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

Re: [AFMUG] Todays ground man

2017-08-27 Thread Chuck McCown
One of your offspring? From: Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Todays ground man This little bastard ended up being a good ground man. Prepped all the gear with loops for him to hook, he ran the tag line for the first time.

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yes, his gas tank was obviously an issue. The body shots he took added up as well. Still, not bad for an 0-0 fighter fighting one of the best of all time. Floyd put on a show, no doubt. Very methodical. What a master of his craft. How long would Floyd last in the octagon? Maybe a minute. Maybe

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Undercard was better but Conner did better than I thought he would. Obviously he didn't train for 12 rounds well enough. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017, 1:13 AM Josh Reynolds wrote: > Pretty much how I thought that fight would go. > > That said, Conor earned some respect tonight. >

Re: [AFMUG] O/T who's watching the fight tonight?!?

2017-08-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Pretty much how I thought that fight would go. That said, Conor earned some respect tonight. On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > You could say, "I could care less, but I don't know how." > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Mike Hammett