Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

hrough A and secondary through C. Saves a ton on enclosures, batteries etc. On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Can’t comment on “small iron” routers as limited experience but can tell you with larger gear (which in theory has a lot more CPU/processing capability) that la

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

Can’t comment on “small iron” routers as limited experience but can tell you with larger gear (which in theory has a lot more CPU/processing capability) that large OSPF networks (100k routes) exist and work just fine.  One company I consulted for a number of years ago had over 600k routes in OSP

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

We utilize Patch Manager - https://patchmanager.com It started as a great way to DCIM – data center racks across many locations etc but with their GIS mapping add-on and other features we’re looking to utilize it for fiber builds and should work pretty nicely …. Paul From: Af on

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

We utilize a combination of blade systems and 1U/2U servers …. Wouldn’t say blade systems are going away.  Basically the biggest sell point for them is space/power (footprint).  If space/power is at a premium (ie. 3rd party data center) and you need to put many servers into it then it can make s

Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support

If you answer calls and return voicemails after hours you set expectation that you always will … so if those calls are important enough (and only you would know) then why not offer extended hours instead? What I’m suggesting is sticking to published business hours and/or adjusting them to meet

Re: [AFMUG] 2000’ tower collapsed here today

Ouch …. From: Af on behalf of Josh Luthman Reply-To: Date: Friday, April 20, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2000’ tower collapsed here today Saw this on Facebook (in a comment, take it for what it's worth): Apparently they were changing out cross bracing and didn’t mount a

Re: [AFMUG] PCI Compliance scan rejecting wildcard cert (CN)

Currently we still use some wildcards and have never had issues with PCI (level 1) compliance from using them …. Paul From: Af on behalf of Jeremy Reply-To: Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 11:14 AM To: Subject: [AFMUG] PCI Compliance scan rejecting wildcard cert (CN) We keep

Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue

I would add that when SIP ALG is on with some routers it breaks things too … point being to try it both ways ☺ From: Af on behalf of George Skorup Reply-To: Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 5:29 PM To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT SIP issue What kind of router/firewall are you working with?

Re: [AFMUG] DDOS protection

Not exactly like that but yes … we utilize Arbor Peakflow for detection (using Netflow data) and Arbor TMS for mitigation (using BGP offramping) … works very well but most would say it’s not cost effective .. From: Af on behalf of Paul McCall Reply-To: Date: Monday, April 2, 2018 at

Re: [AFMUG] new DNS

I know there is often debates on here about running any servers, some servers, or doing everything in-house (mail, web, DNS etc).  Even if you outsource everything I would still run recursive caching DNS …. Performance and reliability the main reasons.  Some CDN’s and other services determine th

Re: [AFMUG] List Delay

Yeah .. I just had a posting come through from last week – originally thought it was because I was in Carribean with horrible service but now realizing that it was queued up somewhere … From: Af on behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 7:12 PM To: Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

Ahhh… the good old days … 😉 From: Af on behalf of "Forrest Christian (List Account)" Reply-To: Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 11:19 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser? I remember when lynx was an acceptable Web browser. But again I also remember when the We

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

Yes – can’t stress enough what Sean is saying here…. Customers need to keep up, the applications/services/software should not need to slow down because of a small number of customers who won’t keep current.  Those same customers will be the one who call your technical support to complain that th

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Unless you specifically recommended he contact Geek Squad then I’d suggest you are not morally responsible…. Just my two cents worth… From: Af on behalf of Reply-To: Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 11:02 AM To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE We are not sure as we don’t w

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 Status

Yeah interesting ... been a while since I've done that myself ... surprised on a few of them (Amazon for example) not working as they typically have We need more ISP's to get on the IPv6 bandwagon though .. Paul On 2018-02-27, 6:43 PM, "Af on behalf of Sterling Jacobson" wrote: J

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

For what it’s worth, I VPN over PPPOE very often …. Works very well.  However I did have a point in time where it was totally unstable and after some wireshark traces I found it to be an MTU issue for sure.  The client was Pulse Secure (former Juniper Pulse) and I was unknowingly running an olde

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

2/23/18 8:22 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > +1 on that … good systems go a long ways to reduce support calls. I’d > also support another response that says it gets better with scale – if > you have hundreds of users vs 10’s or 100’s of thousands then > perspective on this

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

+1 on that … good systems go a long ways to reduce support calls.  I’d also support another response that says it gets better with scale – if you have hundreds of users vs 10’s or 100’s of thousands then perspective on this can change quite a bit especially if you’re outsourcing.  Every ISP I’ve

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server

We run Icewarp as well ... our customers like the webmail interface is what I hear. I'd recommend it to other folks unless you have a very large number of mailboxes (over 100k) - that's where we ran into significant issues with the platform however most of those issues got fixed over time

Re: [AFMUG] Static IPv6

We only charge for Ipv4 today .. Ipv6 static assignments are free for the time being.  At some point we may charge for them as a way to recover the costs associated internally to building out automation/tracking as nothing is free ☺ From: Af on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: Date: Mon

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6

Dual stack for sure without a doubt …. From: Af on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: Date: Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:03 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] IPv6

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

We use TA5000 from Adtran along with SmartRG CPE devices … works well Paul From: Af on behalf of Sam Lambie Reply-To: Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 11:09 AM To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options I spoke with versatek yesterday and they were pretty helpful. I have bee

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

Valid points and well said …. The one thing I’ll mention about iTunes is that it’s not needed if you utilize more of the Mac ecosystem.  I’ve never been a fan of it neither and I’m a huge Apple fan in general – when I ran Windows day to day it was seriously  a major pain as you mention – no ques

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

Having used both Android and IPhones …. iPhones I found more reliable and less prone to software issues … neither is perfect but my wife/kids hated me when I came home one day with new Samsung’s running Android – in fact after three months I ended up breaking cellular contracts and moving them b

Re: [AFMUG] Residential router recommendation.

Personally use an Asus as my default router at home when I’m not playing with Cisco/Juniper/Fortigate “non-home” routers … I have the RT-AC87R and an impressed …. Never lets me down and handles whatever I throw at it … the wireless is pretty good too IMHO Netgear Nighthawk – bought one before t

Re: [AFMUG] PPS limits

The top attacks we see daily are DNS amplification attacks and IP fragmentation attacks ….   SSDP and NTP based floods used to be really high at one point but dropped off quite a bit in past 6 months… Typical IP fragmentation attack in the past 24 hours is upwards of 7.5mpps at 16Gbps – ofte

Re: [AFMUG] PPS limits

Not sure specific to ubnt routers – depends on how they handle exception traffic like that …. But what I would suggest is when reading specs on routers, try to get real world feedback as it seems you are asking for.. Many spec sheets on routers have PPS ratings for IMIX traffic or large pack

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 for management

+1 …  almost everything in our management networks (which are completely separate logically from any other networks) are dual stack.  Also for HTTPS it’s the only form of web based management permitted (and only on devices where web interface is the only way to manage it). Paul From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home Automation etc

t from china grade A > knockoffs on the cheap) you can get into pretty inexpensively with very low > power demand > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Paul Stewart <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote: > Just a shameless plug for my new blog I started back up a few week

Re: [AFMUG] shadowserver reports

Usually it means one of their honeypot servers (shadow servers) got hit with an attack signature from the IP they listed …. Usually that’s how they do the detection …. > On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > We get these reports, of yet i havent found any to be false positives, I

[AFMUG] OT: Home Automation etc

Just a shameless plug for my new blog I started back up a few weeks back …. It touches on home automation (which I know in previous discussions many folks on here find interesting) and a bit of home improvement stuff etc…. https://paulstewart.org if you’re interested :) Paul

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Optimizers (Was: Validating possible BGP MITM attack)

I never found anything exciting about them … (and yes have wasted money on buying some of them a number of years ago) … they change outbound routing because that’s the only thing they can control (and perhaps the latest generation can influence your inbound routes) but I found they spit out fanc

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas in my opinion. Prepare their exit package, meet with them first thing when they arrive at work that day, give them the package and explain things briefly, then walk them out the door. It’s the si

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

> So, was the tower mounted equipment isolated with its own ground wire? > Curious about the improper isolation at the entry point. > What was the proper way and what did the improper installation do to violate > that? > > From: Paul Stewart <> > Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

I’ve only ever encountered one tower (at former job) that was pretty “bulletproof” … The tower was 350ft and located on the highest elevation for about 100 square KM area … so it was a prime target for lightning strikes. I don’t know exactly how many times a year it took a hit but would guess

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

We tested this extensively and experienced a lot of random issues with their switches …. Random forwarding issues was one but the larger issue was simply hardware failure. Inherited some of them through acquirement (a few) and then also in our wireless network they were the original “goto” swit

Re: [AFMUG] Document scanners

For what it’s worth, a friend of mine’s company does scanning on large scale. They work with medical and legal outfits the most where they take thousands and thousands of documents, scan them, and through their software system created a fully searchable database application. Neat business real

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

dwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Paul Stewart" mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> > To: "Animal

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more accurate). Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and

Re: [AFMUG] How do I decide if we need more technicians?

The number I used to get from folks from 1 tech per 1000 subs starting with 2 techs on day one … but that can vary for financial and business reasons (ie. are these techs only doing install/repair or are they also tech support/billing/jack of all trades) especially when starting out … Paul > O

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

I tried Premium for a while and didn't find it useful I like LinkedIn though a lot If you are job hunting then probably upgrading is worth it for a period of time Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > If you don't know what you'd use it for

Re: [AFMUG] linux help

Another one here since kernel 0.98 I think going by memory ... :) Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2017, at 9:36 PM, David Milholen wrote: > > WOW! another LINUX user... > > Ive been running and working unix/linux since 94 > > I only handle a handfull of vms though. > > I love my bullet proo

Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?

We do 9192 everywhere possible in the core … jumbo frames etc… last mile access 1540-1600 we try to achieve if equipment along the path supports it …. Mainly this is to support VLAN tags, MPLS paths where applicable etc etc…. > On Jul 19, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > > What's ever

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS box with iptables?

ich we’re already doing in other contexts. > > > >> Depending on what you are trying to do, MT can do that, it's just a matter >> of creating the firewall rules. :) > >> -Original Message—— >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of P

Re: [AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with iptables?

I guess it depends on what you are trying to accomplish here …. are you looking to scrub the traffic clean or just block dirty traffic? How will you determine what traffic is dirty and apply rules on the fly? Sorry - many questions come to mind here and don’t mean to sound negative but it seri

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

Procera boxes can do some neat tricks as you mention for sure… just be sure you don’t topple over the box(es) in doing so though as it’s not hard to do (as their boxes are not designed for it so understandable) Paul > On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Steve wrote: > > Procera has some tricks in

Re: [AFMUG] Transit Providers

The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Paul Stewart" mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> > To: "Animal Farm" ma

[AFMUG] Transit Providers

Wide open question … what you use and why you like them? Looking to shake things up a bit …. :) Thanks, Paul

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

Unfortunately pretty common at times …. You shouldn’t see it disappear for long periods though normally …. Nature of the Internet backbone though ;) > On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > I think that is it, yes. Thanks. > > On Wednesday, June 7,

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

You mean your prefixes have disappeared somewhere in those countries for a period of time? If so, yeah pretty normal with backbone shifts, upgrades, outages etc etc Paul > On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > In the past couple of weeks I've seen 3 prefix withdraws per BGP

Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects

Something sounds seriously broken there as OSPF should always have a lower route preference on any router (not sure what you’re using here) so any lookups within your network will always be preferred. I get your point though .. if these guys are “experts” then for them it should be pretty trivi

Re: [AFMUG] Thanks to our service men and women

Thank you to the service people from the various countries represented on this list … Paul > On May 28, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Larry Smith wrote: > > On Sun May 28 2017 10:32, Jaime Solorza wrote: >> God bless and thanks for serving...Jaime > > +100 and thank you. > > -- > Larry Smith > lesm..

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

A lot of the free content comes from pawned servers and computers that are on high speed links …. the paid services are typically dedicated servers rented with flat rate bandwidth … at least with that I’ve figured out ... > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ]

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

I’ve spent more time than I’ll admit looking into a lot of this stuff … various kodi based packages that provide “questionable content” via streaming. This includes some of the common free ones but also several different paid services to see if they are worth it. Almost all of the traffic thr

Re: [AFMUG] GTT as a Tier 1 provider - feedback?

Just in the process of dropping them from our mix … however …. they have always been solid provider with very little issues. How they get utilized in the network and participate in your overall mix is always a challenge .. I much prefer to avoid Tier1 providers in general to be honest - prefer

[AFMUG] IPv4 Market

I was searching around for something and came across this article (in light of discussions around IPv4 etc and CGNAT recently) http://www.trefor.net/2017/05/12/ipv4-address-market/

Re: [AFMUG] NAT and CDN Services

If you can avoid NAT (goes without saying) then take that route for sure…. But I’d suggest a pool of IP addresses at a minimum for NAT … for 1000 users, at least a /27 to avoid running into issues with, not just CDN, but other things as well … Also, if possible, consider IPv6 for the event - wi

Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants

; > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants > > > > I want to just give the customer a V6 and the edge appliance will nat the v4 > only destinations. > > > > From: Paul Stewart > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 6:45 PM > > To: af@

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.

Here it’s law re: vacation and two weeks is the norm in first year. For some senior folks, when recruiting them we do three weeks vacation to start which is a really nice perk. > On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Jeremy wrote: > > I would assume that you already provide paid holidays and paid vac

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.

This is an area that I think every employer can always do better … and i mean that respectively, because if you’re always looking for better ways that means you are doing more and more for staff. Sometimes it’s the small things that really mean more than big things … more than just money etc W

Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants

We dual stack and will continue as long as possible … really hoping to avoid transition stuff but who knows for sure if that’s just a pipe dream or not ;) > On May 10, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > > I’m weighing the pros/cons of purchasing another block of IPv4 at auction or > fi

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I hope you’re kidding right ? ;) > On May 8, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Hold on Dlink makes some pretty good switches... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Chuck McCo

Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

LOL …. A number of years back we had some contracted tower crews working in very harsh conditions …. it was almost -40C, winds steady at about 25MPH and visibility at less then 50ft …. 4 guys went up the tower at daylight and were up on the tower until nightfall… three days in a row. The first

Re: [AFMUG] Certification for basic networking

I found offering folks $1000 in cash (not via payroll with deductions and crap) was a motivator to do certain certifications …. > On Apr 26, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > what amazes me is we have had one of those a+ cert sets we have renewed twice > (the training self paced videos

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

Ouch … 6 people for an interview …. that would be tough! :) At most, we have 3 people when hiring …. fast paced, keep it informal to increase comfort zone with the person being interviewed as you would be amazed what some of them say out loud when it’s “just the boys sitting around talking” kin

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

> (Wifi/POTS/GigE), is EMS based, the EMS is pretty much 1:1 with other systems > based on feedback since you're managing the L2/L3 network WAN traffic, the > PON and the PON & Layer 2 portion of the ONT. > > > > > > > From: Paul Stewart > To: af@afm

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

Much prefer Adtran TA5000 stuff personally …. haven’t used ZTE for FTTH but tested some of their other gear such as ATA combo modem (dsl) and ran into a lot of grief with it. It “feels” super cheap and the UI had a lot to be desired (and simply lacked needed features like North American DTMF to

[AFMUG] Windows 10 Creators update

Starts tomorrow …. been working on capacity planning stuff for 3 months now to prepare - should be interesting to see if it breaks traffic records in our network…. Just a friendly reminder about it coming ;) Paul

Re: [AFMUG] CISCO VLAN question

haha.. yeah and I’ll take something that is reliable too ;) > On Apr 8, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > > 5 clicks or one command? I'll take Cisco's one command. > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Timothy Steele > wrote: > All you Cisco lovers will ha

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

t; across us. Turns out to be a whole lot less complicated than expected, and > super easy to add redundancies. > > On Apr 5, 2017 7:47 PM, "Paul Stewart" <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote: > Very correct…. run across this often on a mid/large scale where CDN traffi

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Very correct…. run across this often on a mid/large scale where CDN traffic getting served from a different country in a lot of cases because folks are using public DNS servers vs directly on-net > On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Until they throttle your DNS traffic...

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question

Calix or Adtran …. > On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Awesome sauce, thanks! > > Anyone have a recommendation for a VDSL dslam? =) > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:

Re: [AFMUG] Adtran TA5000 Pricing

-2.amazonaws.com/wsca-uploads/1420828908_Adtran%20Price%20List.xls> >tab 5.2.4. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Paul Stewart <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote: > Does anyone have pricing on TA5000 platform that they can share offline? > > I’m lo

[AFMUG] Adtran TA5000 Pricing

Does anyone have pricing on TA5000 platform that they can share offline? I’m looking for the largest chassis with all the standard controller cards + DWDM + Ethernet ports to start. Yes, a bit vague I realize. If the list has GPON line cards that would be awesome too.. USD List Prices are fi

Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

Might depend on who’s asking ;) > On Mar 22, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I assume you don't mean the type of missile you launch at your enemies. > > I googled for "underground cable missile" and I'm directed to an article > about some kind of pneumatic hammer/boring thing. Is

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

es obviously, but when the cost is like 1/8th, you >> can spend that money on contractors and OLTs and ONTs and get way more subs >> installed much faster - and it's something that is still based on open >> standards. >> >> That's a hard business proposition

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

I’d have to double check the exact amount but here in Ontario, the power you sell back at something like 90 cents Kwh … very inflated to encourage more people to generate their own power and sell it back to the “system” - in my opinion it’s driven the price of purchasing/consuming power artifici

Re: [AFMUG] Speaking of banks and banking

It became such and issue for me with another company i was involved with that we ended up using a service that (conveniently or ironically) the bank offers to protect against this kind of stuff. The name varies bank to bank but basically when you do check runs, you upload that information to th

Re: [AFMUG] IPV6 Address planning

This answer varies of course …. one thing with ICMPv6 though is to make sure you allow more than just echo/reply … take a look at https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4890.txt > On Mar 17, 2017, at 4:44 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > > Yes we are late but none of

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed

Depends on where the updates are coming from …. > On Mar 16, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it > will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more). I'm > updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Build Time Question

inside installer to come later. > > > From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of > Paul Stewart mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 7:03:15 PM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Build Time

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Build Time Question

elling. > > Then we hang the ONT and install. Probably 3 hours per dwelling. But that > is doing them in volume with a crew of 4-6 guys. > > > -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 4:21 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

haha… yeah fair enough ;) > On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > It can be different when you're the one paying for it :) > > On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote: > Interesting …. do they

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Build Time Question

80% of what? :) I’m trying to calculate man hours … Thanks, Paul > On Mar 6, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > 80% > > -Original Message----- From: Paul Stewart > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 4:15 PM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Build Time

[AFMUG] Fiber Build Time Question

I checked around and can’t come up with a number so asking the list …. it’s an open ended question I realize… For every 1000 homes passed, assuming a medium density deployment (meaning primarily houses in subdivisions but limited MDU) - how much time to trench the fiber and have connectivity re

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

Interesting …. do they work ok? I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing. > On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > > I'm im

Re: [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions

icing. Create a new subject header like > PRS: for blatantly Political, Religious, and Social) or something similar and > then we can truly filter that “stuff” so we never see it. > > Paul > > >   <> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Youtube Data Storage

That sounds about right ….. highly distributed well connected storage is their key … It truly is staggering though when you think about it… > On Mar 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > I was reading an article the other day that referenced that youtube users > upload 400 hours of vid

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

I understand it will be the same network, same systems etc….. > On Mar 1, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 3/1/17 08:17, Chuck McCown wrote: >> “YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals >> from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more

Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions

I offered before to run it for free …. just saying .. and I know there were others too … Running mailing lists isn’t a major investment especially if you already have the infrastructure (which I do) Paul > On Mar 1, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I agree. The list keeps me out o

Re: [AFMUG] OT Home Office Cleanup

Ah cool .. I remember playing Bard’s Tale - loved that game. There was a Remote Access BBS door game adopted after it as well … now I’m dating myself haha > On Feb 19, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Rex-List Account wrote: > > Brings back memories of late nights and pizza. > I have done all the Ultima

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper facing fatal clock flaw that impacts Cisco routers, switches | Network World

We have been going through everything we have and so far only found one set of hardware affected … Lanner boxes we use for a specific service to some customers as a managed CPE …. last I heard we’re probably dumping Lanner anyways due to high rate of hardware failures so this is easy to digest :

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

infected > and high-usage customers and traffic patterns. > > Travis > > > On 2/14/2017 4:08 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: >> I don’t know which one has longer data retention … Arbor is at least a year. >> However, most products in this space will start summarizing the data af

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone familiar with IDS/IPS systems

Cisco is good stuff … as long as you don’t mind dealing with Cisco … Home built stuff with Snort/Suricata is pretty awesome …. Tippingpoint makes good stuff I hear - limited hands on with their stuff Really like Juniper for this kind of stuff as we are a heavy Juniper shop The key question thou

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

eb 7, 2017 9:51 AM, "Paul Stewart" <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote: > Depends on flow volumes and stuff.. talked to them at NANOG and conference > calls … > > For a low volume shop they seem to have a slick solution - only seen a brief > demo. However, de

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

Depends on flow volumes and stuff.. talked to them at NANOG and conference calls … For a low volume shop they seem to have a slick solution - only seen a brief demo. However, depending on volume they do not scale “well” - we were told that we would need several racks of servers to deal with v

Re: [AFMUG] CanWisp Conference

ROFL .. Mormons … Ferengis … > On Feb 6, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > > And Ferengis ;-) > > > Ursprüngliche Nachricht > Von: Chuck McCown > Datum: 06.02.17 20:01 (GMT+01:00) > An: af@afmug.com > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] CanWisp Conference >

Re: [AFMUG] CanWisp Conference

: af@afmug.com <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CanWisp Conference > > Hopefully it'll keep growing, a good chunk of our bigger customers are in > Canada, so there's definitely a good WISP industry up there! > > On 2/6/2017 12:40 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: >> Great -

Re: [AFMUG] CanWisp Conference

sh > Director of WISP Markets > Direct: 972.922.1443 > Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid > On Feb 6, 2017 12:41 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Excellent … see you there! :) > > Paul > > On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Simon We

Re: [AFMUG] CanWisp Conference

Excellent … see you there! :) Paul > On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > > I'm going to the conference in Ottawa next week. > > On 2/4/2017 6:33 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: >> Anyone from AF attending the CanWisp conference coming up soon in Gatin

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