Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On 6/18/20 11:22 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 20:37, ATMunn via agora-discussion > wrote: >> Here's a proto-proposal I came up with somewhat on the spot. Opinions >> welcome. >> >> >> Title: The Deck >> AI: 1.0 >> Author: ATMunn >> Co-author(s): >> >> Enact

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Non-fee based mechanisms for fee-based actions

On 6/18/20 11:42 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/18/20 3:22 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal: >> >> Title: Fee-based mechanisms >> >> Author: Jason >> >> Coauthors: Falsifian >> >> Adoption index: 3.0 > > > I withdraw

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Non-fee based mechanisms for fee-based actions

On 6/19/20 5:54 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > Is "intent to pay that fee" strong enough? It doesn't seem to me as if > that necessarily requires the payment being possible or succeeding. This is the existing wording, and is protected by the next paragraph. --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

I submit, m'lud, that the fact that my learned opponent believed the concept of "intent" was in the previous rule version shows that "attempt", in a natural sense, coveys the sense of intent in the (unremoved) text. On 6/18/2020 8:51 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > never mind, cant

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

there is a precedent actually that you can bar in a later message without recalling the CFJ if its "reasonably continuous" or something. On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:09 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 10:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On 6/19/2020 5:51 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/18/20 11:22 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 20:37, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: Here's a proto-proposal I came up with somewhat on the spot. Opinions welcome.

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 6/19/2020 1:20 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-19 01:48, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >> Oh, another thing: I think you're supposed to list out the individual types >> of cards and products? Isn't each its own class of asset? > > Just checked in on the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 7:03 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ: "Within the past week, Jason committed the crime of Uncertain > Certification." thanks! (the reason I didn't right away is I've lost count this week I think I'm getting close to excess cfj territory).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 7:18 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > there is a precedent actually that you can bar in a later message without > recalling the CFJ if its "reasonably continuous" or something. Can you point me to that doesn't ring a bell.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/20 9:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/19/2020 6:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> On 6/19/20 12:36 AM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: >>> Hey nerd, a proposal is only a patch if >>> >>> A player SHALL NOT certify a proposal unless its sole function

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 7:40 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > i remember someone called that CFJ in response to the first CFJ i ever > called > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3523 Thanks, I didn't remember that! The rule language has changed, though, from (according to those

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/20 11:33 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:31 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/19/20 11:21 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >>> Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it >>> lacked the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/20 10:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/2020 7:03 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I CFJ: "Within the past week, Jason committed the crime of Uncertain >> Certification." > thanks! (the reason I didn't right away is I've lost count this week I > think I'm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

yeah it probably has to be the same message now On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:00 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/19/2020 7:40 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > i remember someone called that CFJ in response to the first CFJ i ever > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/20 11:31 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:21 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >> Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it >> lacked the basic checks (e.g. dependent action or something). Regardless >> of CFJ outcome you all

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 6:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/19/20 12:36 AM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: >> Hey nerd, a proposal is only a patch if >> >> A player SHALL NOT certify a proposal unless its sole function is >> to minimally rectify a bug, error, or ambiguity (a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

i remember someone called that CFJ in response to the first CFJ i ever called https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3523 On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/19/2020 7:18 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/20 11:21 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it > lacked the basic checks (e.g. dependent action or something). Regardless > of CFJ outcome you all have now fixed the price of pending at 4 blots > (more or less).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

goddamn you guys are so bad at making rules that are good, its lucky i rarely care about the rules On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:35 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:33 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 8:31 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:21 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >> Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it >> lacked the basic checks (e.g. dependent action or something). Regardless >> of CFJ outcome you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 11:26 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/20 1:53 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> Sure, it's all relative exchange ranges, I agree. But there's a fixed >> point because they're both the cost of "pending 1 proposal". If that >> costs 1 Pendant or 4

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:11 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 6:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > > wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 4:51 AM, Reuben Staley

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 6/19/20 6:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> On 6/19/20 4:51 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote: >>> |Publius   | 168|   1|   2|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0| >> CoE: I have a second

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 6/19/20 6:20 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > CoE: I have a second legislative card that Jason created in my possession. But you transferred it to me - that was the whole purpose of the exercise. -- Jason Cobb

Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 6/19/2020 2:31 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-06-19 07:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> Since the asset list rarely changes, may I suggest putting it lower down >> in a lower profile? > > Why did we decide it was necessary to track this anyway? Beats me

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:25 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/18/20 5:58 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> -Is 10 coins a good fee for Drawing? > > I don't think we can answer this right now, and in response to another > > proposal I

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contracts] Six secret contracts.

On 6/19/20 7:42 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > Here we go. Let's hope I didn't mess anything up. > > I consent to the following six contracts: So... is there anything stopping these contracts from just letting you transfer all of our assets to yourself (besides, of course, our

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:16 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 6/19/2020 6:06 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > I always seem to get the least CFJs :( > > Hmmm... I think I've rotated pretty equally but maybe I'm wrong. I > noticed a couple weeks ago I had to skip you

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

On 6/19/2020 6:06 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > I always seem to get the least CFJs :( Hmmm... I think I've rotated pretty equally but maybe I'm wrong. I noticed a couple weeks ago I had to skip you when you were on top (just for one set of cfjs) because most of the cases were

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

yeah im probably just mad because the number of CFJs called worked out to give CFJs throughout the rotation except to myself, just luck on that one (and i do call plenty of CFJs) On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:16 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

On 6/19/20 9:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM Rebecca via agora-business > wrote: >> I certify every proposal in the proposal pool. I wasn't going to win in >> this system anyway (and i dont really care about winning) and this gives me >> an

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

On 6/19/20 9:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > Maybe we can even exempt patch proposals from popularity and > rewards to make sure they're truly for the public good. > > -- > Trigon This is a must for me to vote FOR any mechanic like that. I've been meaning to write a proposal

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On 2020-06-19 09:04, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: I definitely don't want two officers to have to track the same thing. It might work best to just have the Dealor track all cards like P.S.S. is saying here. Here's the thing with that: if the Treasuror still has to track Products, then

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On 6/19/20 4:59 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-19 09:04, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: >> I definitely don't want two officers to have to track the same thing. It >> might work best to just have the Dealor track all cards like P.S.S. is >> saying here. > Here's the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: On 6/19/20 4:51 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote: |Publius   | 168|   1|   2|   1|   1|   0|   0|   0|   0| CoE: I have a second legislative card that Jason created in my possession. These two messages are

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On 6/18/20 5:58 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> -Is 10 coins a good fee for Drawing? > I don't think we can answer this right now, and in response to another > proposal I think both nch and I said "let's let the value find itself > before fixing it with card buys" (hope that's not

Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/19/2020 2:31 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > > On 2020-06-19 07:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Since the asset list rarely changes, may I suggest

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3844 Judged DISMISS by Murphy

> > -- > > Judge Murphy's Arguments: > > Per my judgement of CFJ 3843, Bazinga isn't an asset, thus the statement > is overly hypothetical. > > DISMISS. > > For completeness, even if Bazinga was an asset, the statement would >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

On 6/19/2020 6:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM Rebecca via agora-business > wrote: >> >> I certify every proposal in the proposal pool. I wasn't going to win in >> this system anyway (and i dont really care about winning) and this gives me >>

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

On 6/19/2020 7:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-19 19:44, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >> I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to >> agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the >>

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 10:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full: > >   Ready Method is an untracked proposal switch with possible values >   [None, Pended, Special] and default value None. If a proposal has >   a non-default Ready Method, it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 11:06 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 8:54 PM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 6/19/20 10:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full: > > > >    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 6/19/20 6:15 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > Okay, interesting. I didn't realize that "cashing a promise" means > actions are taken that I have to explicitly search for the original > promise to know what they are. Good to know. Theoretically, PSS SHOULD have recited the

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

On 6/19/2020 3:27 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:25 PM nch wrote: >> On 6/18/20 5:58 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: -Is 10 coins a good fee for Drawing? >>> I don't think we can answer this right now, and in response to another >>>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] ADoP election enters next phase

On 6/19/20 7:12 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/20 4:12 AM, Rebecca via agora-official wrote: >> I initiate the voting phase for the ADoP election. The voting system is >> IRV, the valid options are the candidates who are currently R. Lee and >> Murphy. The quorum is 9.0 (which is a

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

plausible means something akin to "there is a colorable argument that it is true". if you are convinced that there is a reasonable argument that it's related to the Rulekeepor's duties, that's probably enough. However, mere ambiguity or unsureness isn't. On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:00 AM Kerim

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

I always seem to get the least CFJs :( On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:04 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Arbitor's Weekly Report > > DEADLINES (details below) > --- > 3845 Assigned to ArisDue Sat 20 Jun 2020

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:06 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > plausible means something akin to "there is a colorable argument that it is > true". if you are convinced that there is a reasonable argument that it's > related to the Rulekeepor's duties, that's probably enough. However,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:00 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On 6/19/2020 5:49 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:35 PM nch via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >> On 6/19/20 7:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via

DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something along these lines. However, the mechanism I proposed might have been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

well i also just created a proposal to remove the crime of "Uncertain Certification" from existence, so maybe not? On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:42 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 9:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 8:54 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 10:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full: > > > > Ready Method is an untracked proposal switch with possible values > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 2020-06-19 16:10, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/19/20 6:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: On 6/19/20 4:51 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote: |Publius   | 168|   1|   2|   1| 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 6/19/20 5:13 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I still like promises as an idea in theory, but it's seeming like they > might be a problem right now. They're the exact opposite if "make > everything searchable and easy to follow for the Treasuror", which really > wasn't a problem

Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 6/19/2020 3:30 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:28 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On 6/19/2020 2:31 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: >>> On 2020-06-19 07:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: Since the asset list rarely changes, may I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contracts] Six secret contracts.

On 2020-06-19 17:57, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: So... is there anything stopping these contracts from just letting you transfer all of our assets to yourself (besides, of course, our limitless trust in your good nature)? Nope! :) -- Trigon Treasuror of Agora; Former Speaker

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On 6/19/20 7:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:35 PM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 6/19/20 7:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > > The below CFJ is 3853.  I assign it to nch. > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On 6/19/2020 5:49 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:35 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 7:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: >>> The below CFJ is 3853. I assign it to nch. >>> >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

sure, i realize On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM Rebecca via agora-business > wrote: > > > > I certify every proposal in the proposal pool. I wasn't going to win in > > this system

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to > agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the > proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something >

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

On 2020-06-19 19:44, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something along

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

The way I was thinking of it, I gave you the second legislative card I already had: either way, I should have two now. > On Jun 19, 2020, at 18:11, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 6/19/20 6:20 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> CoE: I have a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow > patches and then immediately claimed authority to use it because, in > your arguments, literally any rule text impacts the rulekeepor and > therefore the rulekeepor can

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:23 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow > > patches and then immediately claimed authority to use it because,

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] ADoP election enters next phase

On 6/19/20 4:12 AM, Rebecca via agora-official wrote: > I initiate the voting phase for the ADoP election. The voting system is > IRV, the valid options are the candidates who are currently R. Lee and > Murphy. The quorum is 9.0 (which is a lot so get 'em in). > > I vote for R. Lee and act on

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On 6/19/20 7:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > The below CFJ is 3853. I assign it to nch. > > status:https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3853 > > === CFJ 3853 === > >Within the past week, Jason committed

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3844 Judged DISMISS by Murphy

On 6/19/2020 5:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > This portion of the judge's arguments is very interesting. It sounds almost > more like the sort of thing one would expect to hear in the caller's > arguments. But that can't be right, now can it? ;) > > -Aris > gotcha thanks

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3849 Assigned to G.

On 6/19/2020 5:25 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > A contract which has no explicit mechanism for joining may still > be joined by other parties in some cases. > > The Plunder Partnership as it existed on June 15, 2020 could be > joined by other players.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:35 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 7:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > > The below CFJ is 3853. I assign it to nch. > > > > status:https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3853 > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/19/20 7:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:35 PM nch via agora-discussion > > > > wrote: > > > > On 6/19/20 7:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch

true but you have to articulate a reasonable chain of reasoning for it to be plausible, not just have a gut feeling of unsureness or whatever. but i agree with you, it's probable that Jason didn't commit the crime, at least from the Rulekeepor angle. I'm not sure if it actually does fix a bug. On

DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > I certify every proposal in the proposal pool. I wasn't going to win in > this system anyway (and i dont really care about winning) and this gives me > an amount of Blots truly coinciding with my self-image. > > I point fingers

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > well i also just created a proposal to remove the crime of "Uncertain > Certification" from existence, so maybe not? There are effectively no protections for indictments. If a finger has been pointed, then an indictment can be issued, and

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

i actually genuinely think that the proposal i created is probably the best fix for this, it means you can certify a proposal but you accept the risk of a massive fine (and that fine will be nominal if it's actually, manifestly, incredibly necessary or whatever) On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:45 AM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: actually fuck it

oh chill, that makes a lot of sense actually On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:48 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > well i also just created a proposal to remove the crime of "Uncertain > >

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 8:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > A final solution, which I'm tossing in mostly as a joke, would be to just > > take the once a week limitation off my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 17:35, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> Sorry for not catching this in one of the earlier drafts; the web >> interface is difficult for me. > > As in the Treasuror's

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

On 6/19/20 9:08 PM, grok via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 8:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >>> A final solution, which I'm tossing in mostly as a joke, would be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 2020-06-19 20:06, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: The way I was thinking of it, I gave you the second legislative card I already had: either way, I should have two now. On Jun 19, 2020, at 18:11, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/19/20 6:20 AM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:33 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:23 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> > You wrote a proposal designed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/20 1:53 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Sure, it's all relative exchange ranges, I agree. But there's a fixed > point because they're both the cost of "pending 1 proposal". If that > costs 1 Pendant or 4 Blot-B-Gones, that's a hard ceiling on an exchange > rate between the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: Sorry for not catching this in one of the earlier drafts; the web interface is difficult for me. As in the Treasuror's subsite? Is there anything I can do to improve your user experience? Also, not a CoE, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On Friday, 19 June 2020, 16:24:06 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it > lacked the basic checks (e.g. dependent action or something). Regardless > of CFJ outcome you all have now fixed the price of pending at 4

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

On 6/19/2020 10:16 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote: > On Friday, 19 June 2020, 16:24:06 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Not part of arguments: lol when I voted against this it was because it >> lacked the basic checks (e.g. dependent action or something). Regardless >> of CFJ outcome you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/2020 9:06 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:> Without objection is a really high standard. My rule of thumb is that if > something requires without objection approval, someone will object. They > may even object for no reason, because they don't like the idea of a > proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:21 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:06 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On the other hand, I'd prefer not to have someone run against me in an > > election on the platform "vote for me and I'll pend all your > >

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:31 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I know, I know. I've already done this this week. I think this fixes all >> the

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 2020-06-19 01:36, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:31 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: I know, I know. I've

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:31 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I know, I know. I've already done this this week. I think this fixes all >> the

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 2020-06-19 01:31, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: Also, I think I transferred the DracoLotto both my legislative cards? I do not believe so. You gained two Legislative Cards for popular proposals and transferred two Legislative Cards to DracoLotto. That should leave you with one

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 2020-06-19 01:48, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: Oh, another thing: I think you're supposed to list out the individual types of cards and products? Isn't each its own class of asset? Possibly. I didn't include them all because there are so many tables already and they're all so

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 2020-06-19 02:01, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: I sincerely apologize for creating extra unnecessary work for you. Agoran Offices in a nutshell. -- Trigon Treasuror of Agora; Former Speaker (twice), Rulekeepor (12 months) and Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:54 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-19 01:31, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Also, I think I transferred the DracoLotto both my legislative cards? > I do not believe so. You gained two

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 2020-06-18 15:15, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: I transferred DracoLotto my victory card at [0], which is reflected in the history but not in the totals. [0]: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043331.html Man, I really need to automate

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On 2020-06-19 01:48, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: Oh, another thing: I think you're supposed to list out the individual types of cards and products? Isn't each its own class of asset? Just checked in on the Assets rules. There is no definition for a "class" of assets. It is just

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I know, I know. I've already done this this week. I think this fixes all > the issues brought up with previous revisions. I also did some custom > styling on the markdown/HTML version. I