[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder DNA match for Terceira

Hi Sandra,I haven't checked for a while and was pleased to log in and find three new matches from the past week for my father's Family Finder test. I didn't yet see if I also match them.One match is your BERBEREA. I haven't looked at your Terceira ancestry for many years, so it was nice to see we f

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthony John Freitas 1899 - 1919

e Valin/Valim/Valine book?  Thanks Sandra   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:40 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: Sandra, I'm pretty sure neither of these people are from your Lajes do Pico line of Valim. I believe I'm related to this Freitas man, but still working on proof. Doug da Ro

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthony John Freitas 1899 - 1919

Sandra,I'm pretty sure neither of these people are from your Lajes do Pico line of Valim.I believe I'm related to this Freitas man, but still working on proof.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Or

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation assistance please

Paul,You're talking about the confession rolls.All churches kept them (maybe still keep them?) but only a few have appeared online so far.They are amazing resources, but limited to just the few villages thus far.Of course, we all hope there are more available soon and that every village will have t

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname

ngly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin. I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei João I, 1º senhor da Trofa" that seems to h

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MAIATO surname

I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more.I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO.I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pic

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname

e an alcunha imposed by others, not so willingly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin.I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei Jo

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname

t at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO.I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well.But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found

[AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname

ng in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more.I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO.I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well.But I know it only from 100

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

ars apart, but some were 20 or more years apart.As usual, most of them are from Pico and Terceira, since that's where I primarily work.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com  -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Ab

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

ot so uncommon. And this doesn't include any 2nd degree cousins, which are far more common.The most interesting finding to me is that so many of them had kids.In many cases, their ages were within the normal 2-5 years apart, but some were 20 or more years apart.As usual, most of them are fro

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

Rosemarie,I drove past the Nut Tree recently, so at least the building is there, but don't know if it's open for business.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (sp

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

Cheri,1st degree of consanguinity: Uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage.  Rare.This is called 1st and 2nd degree.First degree would never be allowed, because that's siblings marrying each other - except in Eastern Kentucky... :-)I have one where he married his mother-in-law.  They had no children. 

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

ic Daylight Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: First cousins who married is nothing surprising for the Azores. My grandmother's parents were first cousins from Sao Roque do Pico. And like Nancy, I have numerous ancestors who married cousins, both from Pico and not so many, but also in Terceira. Wh

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading protocol for the CCA Web site

I guess we all learn something new every day!I always like that.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com  -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this g

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading protocol for the CCA Web site

Yes, Rosemarie.The church of Praia da Vitoria is called Santa Cruz.If you got too close to the computer monitor, those records would have bit you. :-)Yea, it's a little strange and if I weren't familiar with it, I might have missed it, too.It reminds me of when I do research and find someone from F

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

First cousins who married is nothing surprising for the Azores. My grandmother's parents were first cousins from Sao Roque do Pico.And like Nancy, I have numerous ancestors who married cousins, both from Pico and not so many, but also in Terceira.What surprised me was seeing these double

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading protocol for the CCA Web site

Rosemarie,Are you not aware that Praia da Vitoria is online?It's been online for maybe a year, since all of Terceira was completed.I mentioned a while ago that Graciosa was supposed to be next. Last summer, a year ago, I was told they completed Graciosa baptisms and by the end of 2012 they would be

[AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

I ran across an old document I had translated about 15 years ago and took another look.My first notation was that this couple was related in the second degree. I never noted whether it was by consanguinity or affinity.But usually if I didn't note it, it was by consanguinity.Well, my second look pro

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Teresa de Jesus, Pico

Dear Laura,There are dozens of people named Teresa de Jesus on Pico (there are 171 of them born in the 18th century on Pico in my database so far), though I admit they don't all have Matos ancestors.But it will not really be possible to identify which is yours unless you can say which fregues

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] BURRA from Lomba, Flores

erent family projects for Flores also drew a blank. There is a Berra family originally from Pico that arrived in the mid 1700s settled around Lajes and Fazenda, but It doesn't seem a good fit as it's Rodrigues Berra in most records I think this is the best match belowFrom Lajes marriage rec

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] legitimate vs. illegitimate

If it is a death in Portugal, it means that's how many were living at the time of his death.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] legitimate vs. illegitimate From: Eddie M

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] legitimate vs. illegitimate

Hi Eddie,Most would tell you that the last Manuel is the only one who survived, if any did.But there are some unusual cases where two with the same first name did survive. I know there was someone recently on this list who mentioned it in their family.What happens in that case they used different m

[AZORES-Genealogy] BURRA from Lomba, Flores

I just found a marriage of a lady named Páscoa who was born in Lomba in 1787 and then noticed the Lomba records are lost or destroyed for that century.What stuck me is the name of her father, Manuel Furtado da Burra, a name I have never seen before.Maybe some of you Flores researchers have Burra an

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] maiden names

Another factor that I just thought of is something that will happen in the future for me.I think the way I name people might help when I am ready to publish the genealogies of each village in book form.If I have to look through notes to see how a person was named, that seems like it might be too ti

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] maiden names

I usually make a change in how I record once it actually becomes a problem.When I was first starting, I automatically added the father's name to all women. Now I would NEVER do that for Portuguese.But as we know, that's how a lot of countries do it.As an aside comment, we with Portuguese ancestry m

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] maiden names

If I find variations in how a lady was named in the records, I write their names as this, for example:Catarina da Conceição ou Catarina de JesusIf thee was a 3rd variation:Catarina da Conceição ou Catarina de Jesus ou Catarina PimentelThe field length for names in Brother's Keeper is large and I ha

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 30 years

f the groom) sign his name as Dutra which confirmed what I thought it must be.I suppose it has something to do with how it sounds in the location where it's written.I recently ran across a BEZERRA family with Pico origins but I think it was found in São Miguel or somewhere other than Pico.It

[AZORES-Genealogy] maiden names

I would like to know the opinions of others about how to enter surnames for women.I always enter the maiden names, but often or usually (in the late 1800s to present time) women have adopted their new husband's name and are listed as such in the records.For example, Maria José is married in 1888 (I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 30 years

o with how it sounds in the location where it's written.I recently ran across a BEZERRA family with Pico origins but I think it was found in São Miguel or somewhere other than Pico.It had changed over to BIZARRA in this new location. And it was written this new way on many instances, not just o

[AZORES-Genealogy] 30 years

I just ran across something from the year 1894 in which the age of someone was written as "trint'annos" and I had to look really closely to be sure what I was seeing.I have never seen this contraction used before and suspect it could be something only this priest did and is not reflecting the major

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Azores are a part of Portugal

My late step-mother, Eleanor Lopes Holmes, had many slblings and one was named Joaquin Lopes.It always struck me as odd that she always pronounced it the Spanish way for J and not the Portuguese J.He was the first of the siblings to be born in the USA and not Sao Jorge, and I guess the Spanish infl

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Azores are a part of Portugal

One my favorite beefs is for RODRIGUES.People often use a Q and spell it RodriQues for some strange reason.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Azores are a part

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Frank Patrick Holmes

father Manuel Joseph were married.  But I probably will have to go there my self to see if I can get the record.  So I have not found the town yet.  Thank you.  Vivian (Silva) Christy researching: Silva, Machado, Silveria, Veira, Holmes, Homen, Enos, Jose, Souza, and many more.  In Lajes do Pico and

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for direction

Hi Vicki,It's not always the case, but the majority of Portuguese in Hawaii came from either Madeira or Sao Miguel island, Azores. I know some from Terceira and others from Pico, but they are vastly outnumbered by the former.Also, you mentioned "Dorego" which is "do Rego"

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] LUIS from Flores born about 1834

Ralph, For that year, best chance for legal immigration would be Boston.It doesn't say he arrived legally, though. That might be where he jumped ship.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORE

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA results

Mary and all,When using the Chromosome Browser, there is a selection in the top left side, right below the Chromosome Browser Tutorial which says "Compare List" where you can choose either 1+, 3+, 5+ or 10+ cM.Make sure you choose 1+ to see the tiniest common segments.For my father's DN

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA results

That article by Carl Zimmer mentioned a way to see people connected from much longer than just 200 years ago. And they can't be talking about y-DNA or they would not say what they did.I think the 200 year view is way off for the Azores, citing my own real findings and proof of relationships from my

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help needed to find Passports or Ship Log for daRose/Rosa family

cords through Ancestry.com or something similar.The surname "da Rosa" is very common in the middle group of islands, especially on Pico and those on Faial are often originally from Pico. But there are also Rosa lines that are very early residents on Faial and it is said that the first Rosa

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: email for anyone from NEPS

Thanks, Lester.I was once in contact with Victor Oliveira during the very early years of NEPS.I appreciate your help.Obrigado.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: email f

[AZORES-Genealogy] email for anyone from NEPS

I wrote last month to an email address posted on the new website for NEPS asking for anyone's email and I got no response.Any chance someone on this list knows the email for anyone at NEPS?I am tracking down something for somebody at the Horta archive and need to make contact with someone from NEPS

[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA article by Carl Zimmer

The following is re-posted from another list I get. Much of my thoughts about cM segment length are discussed here.And I think that all the tiny 1+ cM segment matches we have represent these remote ancestors from maybe 500-1000 years ago.Now, if we could only point to one particular segment and say

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Enos of Hawaii

Correction. His family is from São Miguel, not Madeira.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Enos of Hawaii From: Date: Thu, May 09, 2013 2:39 pm To:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Enos of Hawaii

The recent talk about ancestors in Hawaii reminded me of my own connection to one Manuel Enos.My father wrote to this list a few years ago the following message:I have in my files (info from funeral notices in the Sacramento Bee) some names which seem to match yours:Andrew Enos, d.1-1-1931, age 75,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA results

nk Patrick Holmes 49.55 and 31.64...ftdna predicts 3rd cousin. We share many of the same names on Pico. Two more Pico connections, as yet undetermined but sharing many names, are Kathleen Allen at 45.93 CM's and 10.26 block and Vivian Christy with 45.17 and 9.74...my intuition says this is a

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA results

stor 1000-2000 years ago, or more. Maybe it's the Celt with green eyes or the Frank with a hook nose. :-)In the above case of my father's 4th cousin, once removed, we both have Sao Roque do Pico ancestors. If we go back to the beginning of the records, we probably are related in 15-20

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some Needed Translation Help

David,The best way to test that unsatisfactory theory that the priest wrote down the wrong first name is to find the baptisms and/or marriage of other children and see what the name is. I realize this is a remote ancestor and the records might not make it possible, but that's the only way I can thi

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA results

ance, Mike Gilfilian, one of our list members, is a 4th cousin, once removed for my father (and 5th cousin to me). Since we have no other common ancestors and share only Piedade, Pico as our common village, it's a great place to start with these comparisions on this browser. You'll r

[AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA results

;ll really find it valuable.For instance, Mike Gilfilian, one of our list members, is a 4th cousin, once removed for my father (and 5th cousin to me). Since we have no other common ancestors and share only Piedade, Pico as our common village, it's a great place to start with these comparisions

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Records From 1700's

urt and Maria do Espirito Santo. But when you find her own baptism, perhaps the father will be listed as Manuel de Bettencourt da Silveira, his full name.It reminds me of one more thing that is more a disservice to those with Pico and Faial ancestors who use the Minho databases (NEPS) when these name var

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Records From 1700's

Hi Judy,I have never seen a baptism from the 1700s that says the grandparents in Azores records, with the exception of Piedade, Pico which I think has them to about 1775, but I haven't looked at those records in maybe 10 years and am not certain.In Madeira, where I have done a ton of researc

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to find relatives still living in Faial and/or Pico

Hi Fawnie,This type of request is one of the most common I get, especially when someone wants to make a trip and experience the joy of talking to relatives. My brother is doing this exact thing next week for Pico.You can email me privately with the details of those from Pico and I can check my

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Silveira on Sao George, Azores

Joy,The bottom right entry says that Maria Faustina is the widow of Manuel Silveira.She is native of Calheta, Sao Jorge.It says she died on 26 June 1859 at the age of 71 years and buried in the church cemetery.This is her obit.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for AMARANTE, MACHADO, AZEVEDO, BETTENCOURT, SILVEIRA, in Velas, S. Jorge

he status of your ancestors when they were living. No doubt they descend from the nobility, at least that's what I will presume by the other names you mentioned. Sao Jorge is full of families who can trace their roots back to these settlers and noble families. It's much more difficult f

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for AMARANTE, MACHADO, AZEVEDO, BETTENCOURT, SILVEIRA, in Velas, S. Jorge

bt they descend from the nobility, at least that's what I will presume by the other names you mentioned. Sao Jorge is full of families who can trace their roots back to these settlers and noble families. It's much more difficult for this on Pico and most Terceira families. So in that re

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting AncestryDNA results

have some German matches on Family Finder, but I should, because my grandfather was born in Germany.My father has no such matches. They are all Portuguese, except for one from Chile, because one of our ancestors was born there. Our Portuguese ancestry is mostly from Pico and Terceira, with a few very remote

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting AncestryDNA results

rity of the population is Portuguese. I have some German matches on Family Finder, but I should, because my grandfather was born in Germany.My father has no such matches. They are all Portuguese, except for one from Chile, because one of our ancestors was born there. Our Portuguese ancestry is mostl

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting AncestryDNA results

tion is Portuguese.I have some German matches on Family Finder, but I should, because my grandfather was born in Germany.My father has no such matches. They are all Portuguese, except for one from Chile, because one of our ancestors was born there. Our Portuguese ancestry is mostly from Pico and Terce

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Kit

Having worked for the USPS, I can answer that one, Cheri.No way in hell they deliver them other than the same day they arrive. Anyone who has ever worked there would be able to confirm that. And yea, that sure has everything to do with genealogy. :-)I have one ancestor who was a mail man (from Hung

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for AMARANTE, MACHADO, AZEVEDO, BETTENCOURT, SILVEIRA, in Velas, S. Jorge

ple of wealth and current status.So the question is the status of your ancestors when they were living. No doubt they descend from the nobility, at least that's what I will presume by the other names you mentioned. Sao Jorge is full of families who can trace their roots back to these settlers

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for AMARANTE, MACHADO, AZEVEDO, BETTENCOURT, SILVEIRA, in Velas, S. Jorge

ull of families who can trace their roots back to these settlers and noble families. It's much more difficult for this on Pico and most Terceira families. So in that respect you are lucky. One reason it's easier is the book I mentioned about the Sao Jorge families, because it bridges the gap

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for AMARANTE, MACHADO, AZEVEDO, BETTENCOURT, SILVEIRA, in Velas, S. Jorge

ly you can find a link to the original settlers before the records run out.If it turns out along the way that you find a Pico or Terceira branch, I'd be interested.I do a lot of research for other people and myself in the Sao Jorge records and I often find people from Pico/Terceira. With Pico be

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists

Hi Jo Anne,This link shows all the ships that sailed to Hawaii with Portuguese passengers:http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html#hawaii Some were extracted, as you will notice.All are available through a service like Ancestry.com, but you can also access them through any LDS genealogy library, I think.A

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists

Just added a part of another ship:http://www.dholmes.com/ships/ship95.html These are mostly Sao Miguel passengers and some from Graciosa, but as more from this list are added, there will be some from Sao Jorge and also Terceira, etc.Once done it will complete all of the year 1896 to NYC.Enjoy.Doug

[AZORES-Genealogy] military ranks

Hi Eliseu,It could just be a typo, but I wanted to point out that Alferes is the rank just below Capitão.The only ranks above Capitão are Sargento-mor and Capitão-mor.It's always interesting to document people as they move up the ranks.They might not have any rank when married, but if their father

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco

Hi Emil,I'll look forward to it.Boa viagem.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco From: ehsilve...@comcast.net Date: Thu, April 25, 201

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] BADILHO

I should have added that there is one João Rodrigues de Badilho who could be the person who brought this name to Terceira. I estimate he was born about 1475. He married into one of the three Cardoso branches of Terceira. Maybe I will find an additional piece of information from Fenix Angrence as to

[AZORES-Genealogy] BADILHO

I have an ancestor from Porto Judeu named de BADILHO in the late 1600s.It just occurred to me that this name is too similar to another one de BOBADILHO to be overlooked.I wonder if anyone has successfully linked them.One could speculate that the original for Badilho is the longer form Bobadilho.The

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

sage: my grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts (not California) around 1898.  It was only after the end of WWII that they started to migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had changed the spelling to Madeiros. GayleOn Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM, <p..

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

the other surnames associated with Medeiros.You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.You also mention Moura, but it doesn

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

But Hermano, where's the fun if we don't ruffle some feathers?!It's the spice of life.:-)Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: "Hermano

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

Nell,I must not have been clear enough.I got tested with Family Finder as well as mt-DNA representing my mother's maternal line.I never got the Y-DNA test because my father did it and there is no reason I can see to duplicate that.What I meant to say is that I have never had one of my siblings get

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

Nell,Yes, always test the person from the oldest generation.But if you and your siblings were all who are still alive, then any of your generation are going to be relatively the same. Of course, you are not the exact same as your siblings. One of you might have inherited different DNA from your par

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

Nell,You might find this helpful in deciding which test to do:http://www.dholmes.com/dna.html Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursd

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Cardoso - Lajes do Pico (Jews?)

ell on other's ears 420 years ago.:-)Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Cardoso - Lajes do Pico (Jews?) From: John Raposo <marra...@yahoo.com> Date: M

[AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco

If you do a lot of research in Faial records, you will surely notice many Medeiros families.Many of them undoubtedly also settled in Madalena and other Pico villages.Just now I was looking through the genealogies of the island of Graciosa called:Livro de Genealogias da Ilha Graciosa - Mateus

[AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Cardoso - Lajes do Pico (Jews?)

This is such a reckless comment and should be viewed with contempt.There is no mention of the specific family of Silveira Cardoso in Lajes do Pico being of Jewish origin.All they say is that Silveira and Cardoso are names that were used by Jews when forced to convert.Sure. They picked every name

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale

ed results from the 37 marker test.I wonder of my Camacho ancestors from Pico trace back and connect with yours from Madeira.Mine on Pico are there since the 1500s, so it would be a remote connection, but a connection nonetheless.I have a remote ancestor who came from Madeira to Terceira in the late

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Madeira genealogy

Hi Joanne,I meant to tell  you the last time I saw your message about the spelling of one of your surnames.It is common because of pronunciation for this mistake, but the correct and only spelling in Portugal is HOMEM.It means "man" and for this reason, some of my great aunts didn't want to use it,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of birth record

Hi Sheri,Glad you found the right one. I guess you replied about Angelina and your disagreement before you found Regina the following year in 1901.The only correction to your translation is that it doesn't say her maternal grandfather was deceased.Is Regina your grandmother?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacr

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

roups.com Sheri,  I found the baptismal record for Francisco Jose Dutra. He was born on 4 Nov 1865 in Sao Matheus, Praia, Graciosa and baptized on 5 Nov 1865. His mother is listed as Maria do Espirito Santo, and she is a native of Santa Barbara (Ribeiras), Pico. The father is listed as unknown. Mater

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading a name

Hi Sheri,I didn't notice if anyone told you that the child you found is not Regina. It's Angelina.Knowing that, do you think this is your ancestor?Or are you looking for a Regina in this same family?Do you know they came from Conceicao, Angra?My grandfather was born in Conceicao back in 1889, I thi

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Altares, Terceira records prior to 1644

Hi David,Manuel Goncalves Carvalho and Maria de Melo are also my ancestors.I do know about all the others you mentioned and presume there must be a close relation, but as yet, I haven't pieced together any facts leading to my Manuel Goncalves Carvalho being the same one who married Catarina Pereira

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Identifying Pico Ancestry

-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Identifying Pico Ancestry From: goodw...@aol.com Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 12:37 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Paul, I've found a possibility for Manuel Vieira. Unfortunately, there are tons a

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Identifying Pico Ancestry

that link. Yet again, no DNA match is showing. Of course, you or my father might never have gotten that particular DNA from our ancestors. But it makes me wonder if you match others with Terceira ancestry. I can name several whom I match and maybe you are also a match with them.On your Pico questi

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faria surname

Hi Linda,I took a look at my Faria line in Sao Roque do Pico, the one we share with the mysterious Mr. Faria, and noticed that I made a mistake when I said it goes back to Faial. It actually comes from the south side of Pico, namely the village of Sao Mateus and starts with a lady named Maria de

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists

Many more new ship lists added over the past week again.http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html1894 and 1895 to NY are now complete. Only 1 remains for 1896.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZOR

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Botelho Port Formoso

I don't know about John, but he's a professional and probably has countless hours invested in high quality research. I imagine he might show a portion, because I've seen him do that, but it's not appropriate to ask for the entire thing.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genea

[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese passenger lists

Thanks to the terrific volunteer work of Mr. James Rego Nicolau of the San Diego area, I have posted many new passenger ship lists on my website.The great thing about these extractions is that he has a good recognition of Portuguese names, unlike the extractions done by Ancestry.com and Ellis Islan

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faria surname

tree twice, I would guess that a Family Finder test would estimate a closer connection than reality, having double his DNA.With all your Pico ancestry, you must be related to just about everyone on this list with Pico roots and can actually prove it.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, Calif

[AZORES-Genealogy] Faria surname

Hi Geneva,About my Faria family. Mine came from Sao Roque do Pico, but I think before there it came from Castelo Branco, Faial. I'm going only from memory, so I might be off. There are a few branches of Faria. One is from Terceira in the early 1500s, I believe. There is one in early Faial. I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] new changes in DNA matches

ed up and I see they just made more changes. Some sure matches are now gone and others very unsure and totally dubious (I think) are back again after being eliminated in early February's changes. One person in particular I want to contact is a Dr. Faria who has a ton of Pico ancestors and a prov

[AZORES-Genealogy] congratulations Lionel Rocha Holmes

While it's still April 2nd, I thought I would tell all our cousins on this list that today my father reached the age of 94 years.He is still an active list member, attending tonight's PHCS monthly meeting as a board member, always active in Portuguese cultural events and genealogy.My congratulation

[AZORES-Genealogy] new changes in DNA matches

is a Dr. Faria who has a ton of Pico ancestors and a proven cousin. But I have never successfully been able to get a response from him. Anyone else know anything about his Pico roots or hear from him?Obrigado,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dh

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles

Hi Geneva,What you are looking at is a Portuguese abbreviation.The little zero after a number, like 1º or 2º means first or second. Spelled out in full it is "primeiro" and "segundo."So Luis Alvares Cabral 2º Senhor de Azurara means he is the second "Senhor de Azurara" which is a title and means he

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Useful tip in reading marriage records.

Actually, Rick, their lent obligations are stated like I wrote.The phrase is this: "dezobrigado" - for the groom:"o Contrahente foi dezobrigado a quaresma passada deste prezente anno"and for the bride:"a Contrahente foi dezobrigada a ditta quaresma na Parochial Igreja de São Pedro da Ribeira Seca"I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

This reminds me of all the errors created and perpetuated from the Minho website (NEPS).There are so many mistakes in the Ribeiras, Pico families, I can imagine someone having only half their real ancestors by clicking on their links. It might be worse in Ribeiras than other places, because of so

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela Marriage Record 10 Sep 1807

I would like to have renamed this so that all might find it of interest the tip in reading marriage records from this time period.It is very important to carefully note the spelling of words to know if they end in "a" or "o" such as "o contrahente" and "a contrahente" - O is the groom. A is the bri

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luiz/Luis as a first or last name

ho died in the USA. But this might take some location name revisions on your part. If you don't always name "USA" as part of the location, you can't use that one. You might have to convert all to include USA first.If I have someone who was born in Pico and want to know how many d

RE: _[AZORES-Genealogy]_Seródio_nickname

Hi Manoel,Now I understand.Thanks!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: _[AZORES-Genealogy]_Seródio_nickname From: mances Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 5:39 am To: azores@goog

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