I must admit I took one look at identi.ca and came straight out again. It
just looks messy compared to twitter. Perhaps I should take a second glance.
Saying that my twitter feeds my facebook page and I generally don't go into
facebook anymore although when I do I get a number of messages from peop
Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2009/2/9 Ian Forrester :
>> The really cool kids are on both right?
>
> Given that identi.ca can now supply Twitter and Facebook with messages
> automatically itself - just pop in your login details - this isn't as
> cool as it sounds. ;p
Yeah. Because giving your login de
Feel strongly that the BBC should use something else instead of Twitter,
how about voting or offering your support here.
http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/ideatorrent/idea/16/
Cheers,
Ian
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>
> Note I'm not affiliated with these groups, nor am I a
> teacher, just showing that working, LEA-or-bigger SaaS *is*
> being delivered because of that better resourcing.
It warms the cockles of my very being to hear that some organisations can
get it right :) I wonder how much of it is mai
Richard Lockwood wrote:
I allege that the advantages of switching to Free
Software *can* outweigh the costs (sic) of support, teaching, and third
party staff upgrading their skills to more open, flexible and studiable
systems. ;-)
I like the use of the word "allege". Can you demonstrate i
> Personal opinion: 95% of web apps just don't cut it. If you're talking about
> SaaS, the problems highlighted by Salesforce.com's recent downtime are
> testament to that - and as I'm sure you're well aware, school timetables and
> the National Curriculum have even less margin for troubleshooting
> > How as a FOSS company are you going to maintain a
> well-staffed callout
> > team and helpdesk if the software you are providing is essentially
> > free?
>
> Why is that a problem? My companies have never had a problem
> charging for support for Free Software. All software needs support.
>
for me I have made some excellent connections via twitter both for work
purposes and for personal. I now have a modest number of followers and I
follower an equal number of people. I have connected on a social level with
Greeks/Cypriots around the globe who are interested in Web 2.0, twitterers
in
It goes deeper than this; currently there is no place in the national
curriculum to teach kids to touch type. So even though they will most
likely spend a large part of their time on a keyboard no one thinks it
appropriate to teach them an effective way to do that.
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Richard Lockwood wrote:
>> I allege that the advantages of switching to Free
>> Software *can* outweigh the costs (sic) of support, teaching, and third
>> party staff upgrading their skills to more open, flexible and studiable
>> systems. ;-)
>
> I like the use of the word "allege". Can you demon
2009/2/9 Richard Smedley :
>
> Good point. Although I had in mind putting the apps on the school's
> intranet server, in which case GPL would be adequate. However there would
> doubtless be a market for remote delivery.
Affero is still important for intranets; The plain GPL does not
protect the ri
> I allege that the advantages of switching to Free
> Software *can* outweigh the costs (sic) of support, teaching, and third
> party staff upgrading their skills to more open, flexible and studiable
> systems. ;-)
I like the use of the word "allege". Can you demonstrate it?
Cheers,
Rich.
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Duncan Barclay wrote:
> I have to admit that I generally don't see the point of twitter.
You could have fitted that into a twitter message and reached a much
wider audience. ;-)
- Rob.
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I have to admit that I generally don't see the point of twitter. Having
said that though, this recent spell of cold weather has actually made me
like it, mostly because the university I go to have been updating us on
whether the uni is closed via twitter (http://twitter.com/UniofBath), and
also th
Actually a lot of tweeters complain about the likes of Chris Moyles et al
moving into twitter!
Soulla :)
2009/2/9 Rob Myers
> Ian Forrester wrote:
> > The really cool kids are on both right?
>
> I refer the honourable gentleman to the smiley I appended at the
> conclusion of my previous stateme
> Who cares if
> MS is de facto in the school setting if it serves its purpose?=20
Its purpose (as someone else pointed out quite eloquently) is to teach
kids. I don't know how well MS software teaches anything other than how
to use the previous version of MS software, a skill that at best
devalu
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 19:15 +, Dave Crossland wrote:
2009/2/9 Richard Smedley :
> > curriculum areas - this can easily be delivered through
> > 500 - 600 web apps. The whole curriculum. A small investment from
> > government (less than 1% of the UK's annual school IT spend) would get
all
> > o
2009/2/9 Richard Smedley :
>
> curriculum areas - this can easily be delivered through
> 500 - 600 web apps. The whole curriculum. A small investment from
> government (less than 1% of the UK's annual school IT spend) would get all
> of these apps written. Released under the GNU GPL,
Affero GPL o
Ian Forrester wrote:
> The really cool kids are on both right?
I refer the honourable gentleman to the smiley I appended at the
conclusion of my previous statement. ;-) I think Twitter has the more
famous people on it.
> Surely it's the same as when Radio presenters couldn't help but chat about
2009/2/9 Ian Forrester :
> The really cool kids are on both right?
Given that identi.ca can now supply Twitter and Facebook with messages
automatically itself - just pop in your login details - this isn't as
cool as it sounds. ;p
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The really cool kids are on both right?
Surely it's the same as when Radio presenters couldn't help but chat about
there Myspace pages all the time? Every bar I go into now a days, there's talk
about Youtube, Facebook and sometimes Twitter anyway.
Cheers,
Ian Forrester
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On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 16:12 +, Christopher Woods wrote:
> Given that many schools' IT infrastructure development was so organic and
> self-funded throughout the 90s, they are now in the situation where it is
> almost completely impractical to start from scratch with a FOSS OS and FOSS
> softwar
Although this rant is impassioned and detailed it's almost comically
misinformed. What's happening in education IT(C) is the imposition of a
£45bn corporate cash cow called Building Schools for the Future (BSF) -
through which the government is shamefully entering into yet more PFI
relationships. T
Frank Wales wrote:
> Apparently, there are complaints about how much air time
> twitter is being given by the BBC:
>
> http://thenextweb.com/2009/02/09/bbc-radio-listeners-kick-fuss-twitter-time-bbc-create-microblogging-service/
Yeah, all the cool kids are on identi.ca now. ;-)
- Rob.
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On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 04:12:09PM -, Christopher Woods wrote:
> Aside from the fact that the suite of *de facto* software the students would
> use day in and day would need to be the same, in some cases the bloody
> curriculum demanded that particular software be used, so your hands were
> tie
On Monday 09 February 2009 17:32:58 Christopher Woods wrote:
> The main sticking point for most schools is the "can we help students
> if..." question.
This is part of the issue that some people forget when they put their personal
politics before the needs of children at school. If a tool undermi
Apparently, there are complaints about how much air time
twitter is being given by the BBC:
http://thenextweb.com/2009/02/09/bbc-radio-listeners-kick-fuss-twitter-time-bbc-create-microblogging-service/
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Although this rant is impassioned and detailed it's almost comically
misinformed. What's happening in education IT(C) is the imposition of a
£45bn corporate cash cow called Building Schools for the Future (BSF) -
through which the government is shamefully entering into yet more PFI
relationship
> > And yet they will end up on a newer Microsoft operating
> system at some
> > point. ;-)
>
> Right - if they really stayed put with what they have, then
> they'd still be using Acorns. Which probably taught kids more
> about computer science than the XP machines in use today ;-)
>
> So, ra
2009/2/9 Phil Whitehouse :
>
>>Maybe I'm a poor deluded misguided fool who needs showing the error of my
>> ways?
>
> We're training our kids to give money to vendors for their entire lives.
And, more importantly IMO, to not consider the value of freedom in
relation to the parts of there lives tha
2009/2/9 Rob Myers :
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Christopher Woods
>
>> Transforming a Windows school to an Ubuntu school is nigh on impossible to
>> achieve unless you provide a year's warning, gradually phase out use of all
>> Windows-only software over the course of the year, implement th
>Maybe I'm a poor deluded misguided fool who needs showing the error of my
ways?
Lorks, far from it! I think we'd need a lot of people like you if the
government does try and introduce open source into schools. These are really
important problems that mustn't be overlooked.
I'll assume for the pu
> Transforming a Windows school to an Ubuntu school is nigh on
> impossible to achieve unless you provide a year's warning,
> gradually phase out use of all Windows-only software over the
> course of the year, implement the massive overhaul and
> platform transition during the holidays and then
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Christopher Woods
> Transforming a Windows school to an Ubuntu school is nigh on impossible to
> achieve unless you provide a year's warning, gradually phase out use of all
> Windows-only software over the course of the year, implement the massive
> overhaul and pl
Interesting that OLPC has just gone OS!
Also,:
www.opensourceschools.org.uk
http://www.osor.eu/news/uk-open-source-is-core-to-education
http://www.141.co.uk/?p=164
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2009/2/9 Richard Lockwood :
> >
> > If something as simple as a petition
2009/2/9 Richard Lockwood :
>
> If something as simple as a petition will make
> Windows free and open source, why has no-one thought of it before?
That is not what the petition is about! :-)
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Chris, your points are very interesting, and I wonder if you've been in
touch with the team who are behind Open Labs: Learning?
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/openlearning/
a
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Christopher Woods
wrote:
> > Seen this in my mailbox a few times today, sure you will all
> >
He isn't advocating making Windows open source, the petition states that
"the primary OS used in schools should be a free and open source
alternative" to windows.
Not idiotic at all. I've signed up.
Phil
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Richard Lockwood wrote:
> Mm. Very interesting. If somet
> Seen this in my mailbox a few times today, sure you will all
> find this interesting...
>
> "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make the
> primary operating system used in state schools free and open source"
>
> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/
I find this idea
Mm. Very interesting. If something as simple as a petition will make
Windows free and open source, why has no-one thought of it before?
Why do the idiots who start these petitions never have any kind of
grasp of grammar? Or proof reading?
Would you take anyone seriously who turned up on your d
Just dug this out to have a quick look at it, and it seems that
api.welcomebackstage.com doesn't exist - any clues about where we could find
the data?
Thanks,
Martin
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Ian Forrester wrote:
> Ok ok,
>
> It does exist, the delay has mainly been on our behalf due to wa
Seen this in my mailbox a few times today, sure you will all find this
interesting...
"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make the primary
operating system used in state schools free and open source"
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/
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