Re: Myth or fact?

2014-04-03 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Sometimes the NSAs, even the UHJ ask believers to pray for the departed, sometimes the NSAs or LSAs ask believers to pray for ill people, or for the people after a natural disaster (earthquake, etc.). I don't know if these examples fit prayers in unison, it is just

Re: Immaculate Conception

2013-12-13 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Sen, I think the bahá'í writings rejects the idea of the original sin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin Also I think the bahá'í writings don't assure the sinlessness of Mary, mother of Jesus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin SAQ, chapter 30:

Re: Fwd: Re: A discussion on Facebook concerning extraterrestrials and Steven Greer

2013-08-01 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi and thanks Mike, I see this is a response from BIA, kind of bahá'í cyber intelligence agency :D Some people defend this guy, even in Facebook pages that have the name Bahá'í Faith and thus giving the impression that some bahá'í institution is behind this with the

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Mike, I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. We (common people) have no way to prove his claims, I think the evidence is persuasive but not enough

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Susan,  I doubt he is a bahá'í, if he is I'd be positively impressed that he was not removed from the rolls because of his political activities. How does he faced some radical bahá'ís hungry to punish anyone who deviate a hair from the official view and practice,

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I never looked for his religious background, never imagine he was related to the Bahá'í Faith in any sense. The main questions here are: Is he lying or not? Did he find conclusive evidence about aliens visiting earth or not? I saw a video where he call people to

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Jeanine wrote: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars, cheats, schemes, and cultists. A few people are even telling the truth occasionally. ;-) Whether a person is an enrolled Baha'i or not certainly is not (to me) even a main criterion of

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Mike, The first link doesn't work (need suscription, I will not suscribe), the second link is just another bahá'í page on Facebook, there are hundreds. This page, of course is somewhat bizarre but not so far from average. The problem of social network is that

salat in Babí Dispensation?

2013-05-16 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan or others, Do you know what was the salat revealed by the Holy Báb? Thanks for answer, Regards, Hasan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank

Re: social classes in a future bahá'í state?

2013-05-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, Germany is/could be an exception. Money is a big problem these days, I suppose that promised Kingdom of God in Earth will make opportunities for all, so our intelectual/professional growth will depend only in our will and work, but not just money.

Re: social classes in a future bahá'í state?

2013-05-14 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, Do you mean access to basic education? Because higher education is expensive in every country. Thanks, Hasan De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Martes, 14 de mayo,

Re: social classes in a future bahá'í state?

2013-05-14 Thread Hasan Elías
right (thrid generation of human rights). I suppose in the future the universities will make the life easier, today students get into debt for life in order to pay a degree (bachelor). The basic school is insufficient to fight in life. Best, Hasan De: Hasan

Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-13 Thread Hasan Elías
: can bahá'ís do a film like this? The Baha'i Studies Listserv I suspect we might do what Muslims did in the move *The Message* back in the 70's. On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I know that we can't represent

can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-12 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre work. But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not showing the face)? Al-Nebras (The Lantern) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s Thanks Hasan

Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-12 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Please go to minute 5 to see what I am talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=05m00s De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Domingo, 12 de mayo, 2013 10:02

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-30 Thread Hasan Elías
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Messiah_claimants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mahdi_claimants Sent from my iPad On Apr 27, 2013, at 15:32, Hasan

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-29 Thread Hasan Elías
/List_of_Mahdi_claimants Sent from my iPad On Apr 27, 2013, at 15:32, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, I read few messages of Stephen Gray, I think he trusts so much on philosophers and thinkers. I think Kohlberg and others are nothing and just vanishes when compared

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-27 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, I read few messages of Stephen Gray, I think he trusts so much on philosophers and thinkers. I think Kohlberg and others are nothing and just vanishes when compared to Bahá'u'lláh's Revelation.  The Guardian wrote: Firmness in the Covenant is their Fortress,

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-08 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi David, I wonder if science have discovered some kind of predisposition (genetic mutation)? I believe the bahá'í writings don't contemplate this scenario, our writings say that this is a psicological problem (debility). Regards, Hasan

Re: Morality defined differently by different people

2013-02-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv As you know, Revelation defines what is moral and what is not. De: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Lunes, 18 de febrero, 2013 3:07 P.M. Asunto: Morality defined differently by

Re: Humans (Homo genus, Homo sapiens sapiens and other subspecies)

2013-02-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There is no authoritative statement about this. My GUESS is that all homo were capable of receiving a Prophet. Also Autstrolophitecus afarensis because they were not mere animals. Hasan De: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com

Mercury has ice

2013-02-18 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The new discovery of ice (possible organic material) on Mercury is amazing, but  what is a creature in the sense of the following quote?  Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute. The

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Don, Do you know where is that passage, please? Does this refers to any kind of scientific proof? I have heard that there is a passage in Persian that can be interpreted to mean that only during the day of the second Manifestation after Baha'u'llah   will there

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-11 Thread Hasan Elías
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_conversion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fastest-growing_religion Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2013, at 15:53, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Stephen

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-11 Thread Hasan Elías
? From: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: Re: First Person Grammar The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Stephen, What I meant by good is that the World Order of Bahá'u'lláh

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-10 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, It is better to recognize God (through Bahá'u'lláh), but we should not force anybody. Where Bahá'u'lláh says that everybody must become bahá'í? Hasan I have seen Baha'i blogs where a sense 3 usage of Baha'ullah's writings combined with promoting independent

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-10 Thread Hasan Elías
.  Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2013, at 15:04, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, It is better to recognize God (through Bahá'u'lláh), but we should not force anybody. Where Bahá'u'lláh says that everybody must become bahá'í? Hasan I have seen Baha'i

What was/is Abraham's Book or Religion?

2013-02-01 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Bahá'u'lláh says this: The Prophets 'endowed with constancy', whose loftiness and glory shine as the sun, were each honoured with aBook which all have seen, and the verses of which have been duly ascertained. Abraham is considered a Manifestation of God in the bahá'í

anecdote of `Abdu'l-Bahá

2013-02-01 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, Please help to find a story of `Abdu'l-Bahá. What I recall is this: During His visit to Europe and North America, a high official from the Persian Government rebuked the Master saying something like: how are you? the most important person in the world is the

access to Bahá'ís Studies Bulletin?

2013-01-29 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, Do you know how to access to articles of Bahá'ís Studies Bulletin? Dr. Stephen Lambden has it on his page but can't access: http://www.hurqalya.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BSB-WEBr/BSB%20COVER%20PAGE.htm  Thanks for help. Hasan

Re: access to Bahá'ís Studies Bulletin?

2013-01-29 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Great job, Jonah, thanks. De: jonah winters jonahwint...@gmail.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Martes, 29 de enero, 2013 12:26 P.M. Asunto: Re: access to Bahá'ís Studies Bulletin? The Baha'i Studies

unfair treatment to household servants championed by Bahá'u'lláh?

2013-01-23 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, Once I heard from a very reputed persian bahá'í that Bahá'u'lláh said that bahá'ís that have household servants should not eat with them in the same table or interact with them. This situation is weird, could someone clarify if this is another nonsense

Re: One form of Unity in Diversity not meant to be eternal?

2013-01-18 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv am I to believe that Baha'u'llah hoped that a sizable portion of the population would avoid intermarriage so that we could continue to have diversity? `Abdu'l-Bahá said: Variations of colour, of land and of race are of no importance in the Bahá’í Faith; on the

Re: looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where...

2013-01-04 Thread Hasan Elías
Questions, p. 151)     - Original Message - From: Hasan Elías To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where... The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I'm looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where, according to Hooper

Re: looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where...

2013-01-04 Thread Hasan Elías
beginning and will not have any end; its rising is different from all others and is like that of the sun. - Original Message - From: Hasan Elías To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: Re: looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where... The Baha'i Studies

looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where...

2013-01-03 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I'm looking for a Tablet of Bahá'u'lláh where, according to Hooper Dunbar and Adib Taherzadeh, it is mentioned that the Soul of the Manifestation of God is not the same as the soul of a human being, the soul of human has a beginning. Thanks for help, Best,

Christmas tree? superstitions

2012-12-23 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, Are Christians superstitious? They follow the custom of the Tree, Santa, etc. The nativity scene even in the work place, it could be a bad attitude if you don't make/have/help to make a nativity scene with figurines at offices, it never happened to me,

Re: since when there have been Manifestations/Prophets of God on this planet?

2012-12-13 Thread Hasan Elías
other are humanoid species. Yes, I said sapiens twice to indicate a specific subspecies. Sent from my iPad On Dec 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hominini is the tribe of Homininae that comprises Homo, and other members of the human

since when there have been Manifestations/Prophets of God on this planet?

2012-12-12 Thread Hasan Elías
could not be considered animals like chimps or gorillas, so they have a rudimentary soul. What do you think? De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Viernes, 7 de diciembre, 2012 5:01 P.M. Asunto: Re: soul

Re: Aqdasi and Qurati or Ayani

2012-12-10 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Don, Your roots in the Covenant as a deep bahá'í and scholar could be strong but this may not be the case with other members on this list. This kind of websites could blow one's faith eventually (even if this is not a serious academic work). The name itself

Re: Aqdasi and Qurati or Ayani

2012-12-10 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan,   These people misrepresent the Bahá'í Faith and lie. In internet they play also the role of trolls, the definition of a troll is someone who try to deviate or delay a seeker from quality information, the information is not necessarily a religious one. In

Re: Animal nature

2012-12-08 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, Have you look at BBC Super Smart Animals? Maybe 'Abdu'l-Bahá is talking in a general way. Part 1: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtlgjw_super-smart-animals-2012_animals#.UMOaf4PxboI (stupid youtube and BBC don't allow part 1 on youtube) Part 2: 

Re: soul of Manifestations of God

2012-12-07 Thread Hasan Elías
and meditation rather than in the manipulation of metaphorical concepts beyond what the Manifestation and the Mystery of God have given us. Peace, Gary -Original Message- From: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 9:17 am

the heart in the Bahá'í writings

2012-10-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, Is there any writing that defines the so called heart? Is it the same as the spirit of faith or is another capacity of the Holy Ghost? Thanks for comments and time, Hasan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

Re: the heart in the Bahá'í writings

2012-10-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hello Hasan, In 2004 i compiled a selection of Writings on the Literal and metaphorical references to heart.   http://bahai-library.com/compilation_bayat_city_heart   Warmest regards, Ehsan Bayat From: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st

Re: Bigamy permitted in bahá'í writings?

2012-09-28 Thread Hasan Elías
already married to two women. As far as I know, a Baha'i convert doesn't have to get divorced from one of his wives if he got married before joining the religion. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Dean, The enemies

Re: Bigamy permitted in bahá'í writings?

2012-09-28 Thread Hasan Elías
attributed to Abdu’l-Baha is in?   Sandra  From: Hasan Elías Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 4:06 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: Bigamy permitted in bahá'í writings?   The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, 'Abdu'l-Bahá said that, but the text (stressed) allows bigamy: God hath prescribed

Re: Bigamy permitted in bahá'í writings?

2012-09-26 Thread Hasan Elías
if Greetings, Dean B. - Original Message - From: Hasan Elías To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:14 AM Subject: Bigamy permitted in bahá'í writings? The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I have read in recently posts of two other lists the following: * Bahá'u'lláh

Bigamy permitted in bahá'í writings?

2012-09-25 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I have read in recently posts of two other lists the following: * Bahá'u'lláh in the Kitáb al-Aqdas permits bigamy and never changed this to monogamy, also never legislated again on this issue * 'Abdu'l-Bahá has never legislated or abrogated

Sikhism and Juche religions

2012-09-12 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, According to Adherents.com http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html Sikhism and Juche are religions with 23 and 19 million of adherents respectively. Do we consider religions these denominations? Thanks, This is the list of major religions by

Re: Religious Conversion

2012-09-07 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I recently talked with a catholic woman who thinks that the base of the divinity of Jesus is that He suppressed the sexual desire and did not marry. Since other Prophets have to feel sexual desire in order to have intercourse, and this is too human to be

Re: Manifestations, Scriptures, and Houses of Worship

2012-08-27 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Stephen, Is this your blog? http://bahaitheway.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html Could you tell me please in what part is it about the nature of the Manifestation of God? Thanks, H. De: Stephen Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com Para:

Re: soul of Manifestations of God

2012-08-24 Thread Hasan Elías
Listserv It is the Holy Spirit that is pre-existent, I believe, not the rational soul. Don C On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:57 45PM, Hasan Elías wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I want to ask you about the soul of the Manifestation of God. We know that They appear in a human form [human

Re: soul of Manifestations of God

2012-08-24 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Correction: The Holy Reality of Bahá'u'lláh. Is this Reality just one? or are there many Holy Realities?  thanks De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Viernes, 24 de agosto, 2012

Do you think islam's expansion also expands violence and extremism?

2012-08-23 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv What do you think of muslims' violence, extremism and expansion inside USA and other countries? USA - Dearborn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da6dIWPaQ3s   England - London: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjP_qPpP3Ao  60 minutes reportage on Islamic extremism in

soul of Manifestations of God

2012-08-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I want to ask you about the soul of the Manifestation of God. We know that They appear in a human form [human body and soul (rational soul or human spirit according to SAQ)]. My question is,if They have an human soul, how can They be pre-existent? Since any

Re: a question, please

2012-06-11 Thread Hasan Elías
and saying Berlin is the capital of Germany.  How are you? David From: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2012 8:15 AM Subject: a question, please The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies

a question, please

2012-06-08 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I think I've asked this before, but I can't find the email in my mind or in the list (there is no a subject index for this list or in Tarikh list).  My question is: When we pronounce Alláh'u'Abhá, for example; is it the Arabic words that have power? Is it the same

Cloning, other soul in the same body

2012-05-14 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I know that cloning is relatively new and the bahá'í writings don't addresses this issue. But, do you think that the clone's soul will be akin the soul of the deceased? For example, if some day someone clone any Central Figure or Shoghi Effendi, what will

Re: Cloning, other soul in the same body

2012-05-14 Thread Hasan Elías
: Cloning, other soul in the same body The Baha'i Studies Listserv I am not convinced that a human clone would have a soul.  More likely, it will only have an animal spirit.  It would be alive, but not human. Don C On May 14, 2012, at 11:40 46AM, Hasan Elías wrote: But, do you think

Re: Cloning, other soul in the same body

2012-05-14 Thread Hasan Elías
. Don C On May 14, 2012, at 11:40 46AM, Hasan Elías wrote: But, do you think that the clone's soul will be akin the soul of the deceased? - Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in nature. __ You

Re: Conspiracy Thoeries and Recent New Events Align alot

2010-10-13 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv About UFO, many people see this as a funny issue, but I think UFO exists. Many public explanations of USA Government’s officials of these aircrafts make me laugh, they think people are dumb. This also makes me think they are hidden crucial information. I am against

are we having contact with extraterrestrial beings? - Disclosure Project

2010-10-08 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv   Hi, I would like to know your impressions on how will affect the bahá'í views on the unity process if we are already having interaction with extraterrestrial intelligent beings. Take a look to the Disclosure Project leading by Dr. Steven Greer. Thanks, Hasan  

Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-07-23 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Why? would be tantamount to a departure from those established truths that are enshrined within our beloved Faith. I don't know... De: HUSA husaynvil...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: vie, julio 23,

Re: Seer Status

2010-07-13 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, It is true: The writings don't say anything about these figures. But, why to think that only few/some bahá'ís are special people? I think there were, there are and there will be always non-bahá'í special people with features of sanctity and perhaps some power

Re: Seer Status

2010-07-13 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Apart from the Manifestations of God and 'Abdu'l-Bahá, one can infere that almost all saints, martyrs, etc. have a role in Religion, but there could be saints and special people not explicity mentioned in the writings.   Let's suppose that these figures (being

Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications

2010-07-05 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Khazeh and all, I'm not following all messages, but it seems very interesting. I saw in Youtube an interview of a bahá'í in Egypt explaining to the interviewer, a muslim scholar and the public, the meaning of seal of prophets. I wrote explaining because he

Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv does anyone would like to answer this?   Possibilities of celebrate the Guardian birth or passing or some date related to his work? Of course, this is not with the intention of adding another Bahá’í Holy Day; this is just as a date to remember him and his huge

help with a story

2010-06-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   I'm trying to remember a story (probably in Star of West) when 'Abdu'l-Bahá was walking and a believer was walking behind him, the believer want to be like Him treading on his steps, then something happen (I don't remember) and Abdu'l-Bahá turn and said

Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Why not? De: Don Calkins montana...@great-falls.net Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: mar, junio 22, 2010 9:40:07 PM Asunto: Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date

Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-18 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Is this question silly or do you didn't see it? Thanks for answers De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: jue, junio 17, 2010 11:23:13 AM Asunto: Rv: possibilites of remembering

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Hasan Elías
: Grace at Meals The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 16 Jun 2010 at 15:59, Hasan Elías wrote: Sen, did you try to clarify this issue asking the House? I haven't asked them about the letter against teaching grace to our children, but I have asked them some questions about the letters written on behalf

Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-17 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Resending, comments? - Mensaje reenviado De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: mar, junio 15, 2010 11:25:16 PM Asunto: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-16 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv From the text in behalf of the Guardian it is clear that we should introduce a new set of prayers before meals, but in this quote of the Tablet of Medicine, Bahá'u'lláh recommends remembering His name: When you begin to eat, begin with My Name El Abhá,[4] and finish

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-16 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Erratas, change should for should not De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: mié, junio 16, 2010 12:49:31 PM Asunto: Re: Grace at Meals From the text in behalf of the Guardian

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-16 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Sen, did you try to clarify this issue asking the House? There is no doubt that Shoghi Effendi checked the letters on his behalf. I don't understand why you put in your blog: Common sense tells us that the words of the secretary, saying that saying grace “is not

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-16 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, It seems many issues are not clear. Did anyone write to the House about this prayers, the Tablet of Medicine and the apparent contradiction with the letter on behalf of the Guardian? De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Para:

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Susan, So, God has it or not? thnx De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: lun, junio 14, 2010 10:10:01 AM Asunto: Re: The only quality God doesn't has? The Baha'i Studies

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
glimmering of what God is like.Tim All good art is about something deeper than it admits. --Roger Ebert From: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: The only quality God

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Susan, Thanks for the link to your article, I'll try to read it these days. A bahá'í told me that God is not good or bad. But this isn't accord to the love of God, the reason of the creation. De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com

can't update Ocean

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, I know this is off topic but I want to know if you have the same problem. Or the update is not avaliable in Ocean? When I click chek online for updates a message appears no internet detected... But I have internet and made ocean.exe an exception in the firewall.

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah). I would also add that you might like some of the other hadith qudsi which in some ways are actually similar in tone to the Bahai writings. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Hasan Elías

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
finally decide we should love Him after all, He accepts us with open arms (to be anthropomorphic), despite our lives of unfaithfulness. Yours, Jeanine H. On 6/15/2010 10:25 AM, Hasan Elías wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Thanks to all for answers, Matt, how can God be humble to Himself

possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Possibilities of celebrate the Guardian birth or passing or some date related to his work? Of course, this is not with the intention of adding another Bahá’í Holy Day; this is just as a date to remember him and his huge work. I also think we should know more and

Re: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-15 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv oh my english is not good, I change what I wrote: He contemplate the absurd idea for: He disagrees with the absurd idea. De: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: mar, junio 15, 2010

The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-14 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, I don't remember if I asked this before. We know God possesss all qualities. What about humility? This could be the only quality He doesn't possess? Thanks for aswers __ You are subscribed to Baha'i

Re: Islam's Discouragement of Celibacy

2010-06-13 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, Susan, how to know is one is suited for marriage? De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: sáb, junio 12, 2010 9:50:00 AM Asunto: Re: Islam's Discouragement of Celibacy The Baha'i

Re: Lesser Prophets

2010-06-07 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   'Abdu'l-Bahá talk about the life of the believers, for example in Memories to the Faithful. And the Guardian did it too. This is much interpretation? if so, the House will never interpret.   This article of Ian Semple is very good about the sphere of the

Re: Jinn

2010-06-01 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Matt,   It seems that Jinns, Satan, Angels, all are symbolic. S. Maneck quoted this words from Shoghi Effendi:   Regarding your question as to the meaning of Jin or Genii referred to in the Qur'an, these are not beings or creatures that are actually living, but are

Re: Jinn

2010-05-31 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   Can some explain a bit more? We talk about angels, jinns, Satan, i.e., metaphysical figures, but, at the same time, we don't believe they exist. As a bahá'í of 2nd generation since child I don't believe in this beings. Angels are sanctified human souls, no?

Re: Jinn

2010-05-31 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Thanks Susan,   They are alive people here, or ded people (souls) in the other world: Sanctified people =  angels Very smart people = jinns?   How to know if one is jinn or a normal person?     El lun, 5/31/10, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com escribió: De: Susan Maneck

Re: Jinn and Evil

2010-05-30 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   The Master didn't say the evil doesn't exist in this world. He compared the existence of the evil in relation to the light which has a source, the evil doesn't has a source. The evil exist but it is the absence of light.   It seems the next world is not all

Re: Jinn

2010-05-29 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, I'd like to thank Susan, Sen and others who colaborate to explain this issue. I have a question: These jinns, angels, whatever, means something?  I mean, are these jinns some kind souls or something? Thanks. --- El sáb, 5/29/10, Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl

Re: Jinn

2010-05-27 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Any translation?   We don't believe in Satan or other figure. --- El jue, 5/27/10, Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl escribió: De: Sen Sonja sen.so...@casema.nl Asunto: Jinn A: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Fecha: jueves, 27 de mayo de 2010, 02:47 pm The

RE: Imam status

2010-05-23 Thread Hasan Elías
...@dsl.pipex.com Asunto: RE: Imam status A: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Fecha: sábado, 22 de mayo de 2010, 11:58 pm The Baha'i Studies Listserv   On Behalf Of Hasan Elías   Hi, thanks for the insights, Aquu   Anyway, the way the writings talk about Imam Husayn it seems he is going out

Imam status

2010-05-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   A Manifestation of God is like the Sun(source of light), and his chosen ones are like moons(receptors). Can any of you explain how it is possible a Sun is the return of a moon? I.e., Bahá'u'lláh the return of Imam Husayn? Thanks.   Hasan  

Re: Imam status

2010-05-22 Thread Hasan Elías
2010, 04:57 pm The Baha'i Studies Listserv Quoting Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   A Manifestation of God is like the Sun(source of light), and his chosen ones are like moons(receptors). Can any of you explain how it is possible a Sun is the return of a moon

Isaac Newton on History Channel

2010-04-27 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   I'd like to know your thoughts on Isaac Newton's interpretation of Daniel Prophecy. He thought the year 2060 is the year of apocalypse. The interesting thing is that he identified the year 1260.  This link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voVnP8NcG5M  

Re: Lesser Prophets - necesary bad people

2010-03-10 Thread D . Hasan Elías M .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   The number 12 is important in religion, it seems it has to do with the number 360 (in the extreme, Zeitgeist video says religion is false and is all about about Zodiac).   It seems that 24 elders is not an institution. The 24 elders were special and very

Re: arabic language power?

2010-02-15 Thread D . Hasan Elías M .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   Susan, I think this is the quote, but I would like to focus in the power of pronouncing arabic words. What do you think about it?   Thanks   --- El dom 14-feb-10, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com escribió: De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: arabic

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