Re: MesaLib instructions

2007-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/11/07 15:36 CST: Are you guys stripping the libraries? Mine aren't stripped and they're all between 2.8 and 3.0 Mb. Nope, not stripped. But that wouldn't explain Ken having 225mb installed by MesaLib and me having 35. How many .so files are in that

Re: MesaLib instructions

2007-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/11/07 15:45 CST: Fairly sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ls -lh /usr/lib/X11/modules/dri total 225M -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16M 2007-02-06 19:47 ffb_dri.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15M 2007-02-06 19:47 i810_dri.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17M 2007-02-06 19:47

Re: MesaLib instructions

2007-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/11/07 15:49 CST: Did you pass any OPT_FLAGS? The default is -g, so that might explain why you have much bigger binaries. Actually, for the ones I'm really using, I was passing -g -O2 ... and they're between 12 and 16 Mb. Okay, now it makes sense. Ken has

Re: MesaLib instructions

2007-02-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/11/07 17:47 CST: I don't. I do the following: before=`df -k / | grep / | sed -e s/ \{2,\}/ /g | cut -d' ' -f3` tar -xf $DIR/$PROGRAM.tar.?z* || exit cd $PROGRAM I then compare $before with the current df size. This then only measures the

Re: Locale Related Issues (again)

2007-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/10/07 12:04 CST: Randy, I forgot that I never wrapped these up. It turns out that the only packages that ship UTF-8 man pages (for now) are in the drivers. I tested the above fix from Alexander and it works fine. Here's a patch I cooked up. What do you

Re: Vim testsuite

2007-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/10/07 12:09 CST: Anyone know about this? Sorry, I'm of no help. I haven't rebuilt VIM outside of LFS (after the first VIM install in LFS, I'm done!) so I have nothing to offer. I do know in LFS I output the results to a log file, and then at the end you

Re: Permanent ticket for wrong links and typos.

2007-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/10/07 12:52 CST: Since, as an editor, it's much nicer to just knock out a bunch of these little issues at once. Totally agreed. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6]

Re: Locale Related Issues (again)

2007-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/10/07 13:07 CST: I'm ripping off one more build right now before I commit it. The command will bomb on some of the drivers because the don't have man/*.man files. Do you think this is an issue? They're defintely there for the packages I mentioned in the

Sudo Dependencies

2007-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, It appears the dependency list has been removed, or is commented out (I've not looked at the XML) in the Sudo package instructions. According to my notes, at a minimum: LDAP, Kerberos (both versions plus krb4), PAM, an MTA and the SKey package all need to be listed. Can anyone else

Re: Sudo Dependencies

2007-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/09/07 10:31 CST: So I'd say that what you have for optional dependencies if probably correct. I did look at the xml history and we never had any dependencies listed for sudo in the book. I looked at configure.in and indeed they are all valid. In fact, I

Re: Sudo Dependencies

2007-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alan Lord wrote these words on 02/09/07 10:51 CST: Just to confirm, I have built sudo on a bear LFS6.2. Just with shadow It is a dependency for jhalfs hence having built it in the first place. I'm not sure I follow. I'm saying there should be some optional dependencies listed for Sudo.

Re: Sudo Dependencies

2007-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/09/07 11:01 CST: I'd prefer you do it since I do not link in any of those dependencies. Okay. I'll also mention that if you have PAM installed, then: install -v -m644 /etc/pam.d/su /etc/pam.d/sudo -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version

Re: Sudo Dependencies

2007-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/09/07 12:46 CST: I'm also seeing Electric Fence (-lefence): http://perens.com/FreeSoftware/ElectricFence/ Yes, I forgot to write that one down in my notes, but I had noticed it. Thanks for the reminder. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:11 CST: So unless there is a really good reason for not using the KERNEL_DIR variable, I would suggest that, at a minimum, the book is changed to state that KERNEL_DIR should always be set. Well, this issue goes back years. And we consider a

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:25 CST: Hmmm, they don't work :-) There's about a dozen extensions that (silently) don't get compiled or installed. Yes, I see that now. Thanks, Andy. Okay, how about as a compromise, at least a note stating that for some extensions you have

Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:59 CST: Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:25 CST: On another note, can you still change to version 1.3.6? What does that give us, that 1.3.5 doesn't? Not sure what to do here. Okay, how does this sound (in the IPTables

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:09 CST: As per the other post that I've just sent, I think the problem is that the sanitized headers are a bit out of date. It isn't that the sanitized headers are a bit out of date. Actually, Iptables is using headers that are not installed at

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:12 CST: IPTables can use the raw kernel headers from the Linux package to build additional modules and extensions. This could result in IPTables becoming broken if you update to a more recent kernel version later on. Additionally, the note

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:19 CST: For example, one test looks for $KERNEL_DIR/net, while other tests look for $KERNEL_DIR/include/linux/... Which means in order to work, there would have to be a /usr/net dir, which will never happen in a sanitized header installation.

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:12 CST: Okay, how does this sound (in the IPTables instructions in a note right before the compilation commands): [snip 1st version] Okay, there's a two-fold issue. 1) The existing Iptables instructions say to not expose the build to raw

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:51 CST: Okay, there's a two-fold issue. After playing around some more, I'm convinced that we should include the KERNEL_DIR var on the default make command. Thing is we use it as such: make KERNEL_DIR=/usr (along with the existing ones

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 12:19 CST: Ah, here's another minor problem. Connbytes is missing. Although it exists in 1.3.5, it doesn't seem to build. It does in 1.3.6 though - another reason to upgrade? I've been using 1.3.6 for a few months now so am happy it is stable.

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 12:42 CST: I'm using 2.6.17.4 but I've had a look at 2.6.16.27 (which is what LFS 6.2 uses). 2.6.16.27 satisfies the 1.3.6 test, so I would argue using 1.3.6 would tie in better with the the LFS itself. Good enough. Again, thanks. So, we could

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/07/07 13:40 CST: Looks good. Plus, gives a nice hint on what you'd want to do if you need to build against the raw kernel source. I'm about to commit the update, and it includes a note about the kernel headers. Please review the rendered page (or the

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 14:31 CST: Sorry but where am I looking? I've checked the CVS and SVN but don't see any changes. Everything can be found by looking in svn://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/BLFS svn://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/BLFS/trunk/BOOK is the current development

Re: Iptables 1.3.5 (first cut fix)

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 14:31 CST: Sorry but where am I looking? I've checked the CVS and SVN but don't see any changes. Additionally, you could subscribe to the blfs-book mailing list, where you could read the actual commit messages. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips

Re: New packages

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 14:35 CST: How do I go about submitting a new package for inclusion in future versions? The one I have in mind is Squid, but I'm sure there's others. Typically, one would create a 'hint' and submit it to the Hints project. If any Editor likes the

BLFS-6.2.0-rc2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
It is with great pride that the BLFS team announces the release of BLFS-6.2.0-rc2. This release is a candidate for the actual 6.2.0 release due out on February 14th, and is the complement to LFS 6.2. It has been almost 18 months since the last release of BLFS and many new packages and

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/06/07 16:02 CST: Hopefully I'll get this in before 6.2 is released! No promises. :-) Is it possible to update iptables to 1.3.7? I've checked the 'current development' version of the book and iptables is still at 1.3.5 I tried a few weeks ago to

Re: Run time depedencies

2007-02-04 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 02/02/07 12:09 CST: On Friday 02 February 2007 14:33, TheOldFellow wrote: The third problem is that LFS is almost dead (although BLFS is still alive and kicking - It's great to see how much effort you guys are putting in, and it's appreciated, I assure

Re: Missing in docbook.xml

2007-02-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 02/02/07 22:16 CST: Hey guys, ran across this one that has been bugging me for a long time since I still do BLFS manually. I have no problems when added, but the has been missing here for a long, long time. docbook is certainly not my specialty, so I didn't

Re: r6522 - in trunk/BOOK:

2007-02-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
[cc'd to BLFS-Dev from BLFS-Book] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote these words on 02/02/07 05:00 CST: Author: alexander Date: 2007-02-02 04:00:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Feb 2007) New Revision: 6522 Modified: trunk/BOOK/basicnet/textweb/links.xml trunk/BOOK/general/genlib/glib2.xml

Re: Xorg-7 contents - #2216

2007-02-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/03/07 15:02 CST: After looking at it for about the 10th time, I think I finally understand how the varlistentry and indexterm stuff works in the Contents section. I suppose the only thing you need to watch for (validating will immediately bring it to the

BLFS-6.2.0-rc1 Released!

2007-02-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, It is with great pride that the BLFS team announces the release of BLFS-6.2.0-rc1. This release is a candidate for the actual 6.2.0 release due out on February 14th, and is the complement to LFS 6.2. It has been almost 18 months since the last release of BLFS and many new packages and

Re: Run time depedencies

2007-02-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
TheOldFellow wrote these words on 02/02/07 02:50 CST: [snip good stuff] But all this information is interesting, and leads to cleaner systems once you understand it all. But maybe it's all to difficult (IATD) especially when you have a release coming up... :-) C'mon, you old fart, start

Re: KDE

2007-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/01/07 15:45 CST: svn merge -r X:Y http://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/BLFS/tags/6.2.0-rc1 Where X is the rev for the trunk revision and Y is the rev for the latest tag revision. Well, the syntax looks close, but my understanding is different. svn merge is

Search URL

2007-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, There are places in the BLFS book which say to go to http://search.linuxfromscratch.org/ if you need to search the mail archives. This URL only leads one to a page that says: It works!. It doesn't seem very useful. Is search broken right now, or does the URL in the book need to be fixed?

Add to authorized list for the website commits

2007-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I've committed some changes to the BLFS website, yet there are no messages being displayed because randy AT linuxfromscratch DOT org is probably not authorized to send mail. I'm subscribed as a different user name. I know Bruce has changed this before in other lists to add specific names

Almost there with the Trac tickets!

2007-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'm doing final checks of download links and think I'm ready to render the rc1 book for the final time after the KDE stuff has been merged from trunk. I've got the patches, downloads, and errata page taken care of. Justin took care of creating a package repo on Anduin with the correct

Re: 6.2.0 tag

2007-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/01/07 19:17 CST: In my mind, the tag should be static because it marks some sort of milestone. So, later if I want to find out what's changed since BLFS-6.2.0rc1 got released, I can do that. There won't suddenly be new commits there. That is the plan. In

Re: Run time depedencies

2007-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/01/07 21:04 CST: I just checked my local build and only see the one after Configuring. [snip] I thought I was consistent in kdelibs/kdebase. Am I losing it again? The last paragraph in the Configuration section has to do with a couple of run-time

Re: xine-lib-1.1.1 problem/xine-lib-1.1.4 update?

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/31/07 01:05 CST: Should I put xine-lib-1.1.4 in the book for this release? I think it would be unwise at this point. If you follow the instructions in the book, it compiles cleanly. Totem requires xine-lib. Unless you can check out totem (huge amount of

Thoughts about the Preface/Foreward section

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Currently in the book there are sections titled Preface to Version 6.0 and Preface to Version 6.1. Now we need to add Preface to Version 6.2.0. No big deal adding it, however, I'm wondering if the 6.0 and 6.1 prefaces are needed in the book. Sure there may be some history there, but it

Re: Thoughts about the Preface/Foreward section

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/31/07 10:26 CST: I'd say it's up to you, but if you reduce it to one, you need to acknowledge those who went before. I suppose I didn't describe my intentions/thoughts well enough. What I'm asking is if we should continue to describe the previous books.

Re: xine-lib-1.1.1 problem/xine-lib-1.1.4 update?

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/31/07 10:28 CST: OK, but did your build compile video_out_xxmc.c? As best as I can tell. Here is output from the configure command: checking for libXv.so... found libXv.so in /usr/X11R6/lib checking for XvShmCreateImage in -lXv... yes checking whether to

Re: I'll show you mine....

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Barius Drubeck wrote these words on 01/31/07 12:57 CST: On a more 'we don't really care' note, that new hardware might even be powerfull enough to boot that other excuse for an OS: Vi$ta. If Vista is that other excuse for an OS, what is the other excuse for an OS? :-) -- Randy rmlscsi:

BLFS Chronology Summary

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Would anyone care to take on a project of drafting a BLFS Chronology Summary (or some name, it doesn't matter) which *briefly* describes the major changes in the various BLFS releases? It doesn't have to be a complete list, simply a short summary of the evolution of BLFS. I was thinking

Re: 6.2.0 tag

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/31/07 18:56 CST: Of course, none of this really has anything to do with today's release of 6.2.0-rc1 which to me is nothing more than an svn copy from trunk to a 6.2.0-rc1 tag, and rendering the various formats of the book and installing them on quantum

Re: 6.2.0 tag

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/31/07 19:55 CST: 1. Update general.ent with the blfs-version as -rc1 (or would that be -beta1. I wouldn't call it a -rc until all the current tickets for 6.2.0 are either fixed or moved to another milestone. ). It will be a couple more days for me to get

Re: 6.2.0 tag

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/31/07 20:54 CST: It came about as the automation of the patches was implemented. We could change the book. The only place the downloads-root entity is used is one place in general.ent. I'll defer to your good judgment on that one. Do what you think is

Re: 6.2.0 tag

2007-01-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 01/31/07 21:50 CST: Yep, I'll do this tonight. I have a few packages to update still which shouldn't take long, and then since it is a symlink tree just cp -a from svn to 6.2.0. It should be called 6.2.0 then or 6.2? Yes, 6.2.0 would be great. We'll

Perl Modules

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, There are several Perl Modules identified in the BLFS book, but no longer on the CPAN server due to updated versions are now available. I've looked at, and tested all the modules that need updating in the book and feel confident that we can update the book to reflect the current

Re: Perl Modules

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
TheOldFellow wrote these words on 01/30/07 10:02 CST: For info, I've done the same on a build this week, latest versions on cpan. No perceived problems so far. Thanks for the input, Richard. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library

Re: ISO-Codes update

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/26/07 13:16 CST: The main impetus for the update is that the package (BLFS version) is no longer available. Any objections? Sigh..., it appears the 0.58.1 version has been removed in the last couple of days. Either 1) we move the download URL

Re: Dead Links

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 01/25/07 14:00 CST: Attached the true_bad_links file generated with the new test-links target for r6463. From 930 tested URLs there is only 44 dead links, not so bad ;-) I think everything is now fixed. Here are the remaining bad URLs: 1)

Re: Dead Links

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/30/07 11:36 CST: BTW, I wanted to get KDE out by tomorrow, but I don't think I'll be able to make it. I'm up to kdegraphics, but between rebuilding dependencies and checking the dependencies in the book, its time consuming. Also kdebindings is 75 SBU/run

Re: ISO-Codes update

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 01/30/07 11:39 CST: If you are happy with a well-tested old version, use whichever version fits. But for the future, please stay with mainstream releases. Um, Ken, what package are you referring to? This thread is about the ISO Codes package. Are we on the

Re: ISO-Codes update

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 01/30/07 11:43 CST: Sorry for the delay, it has been a busy weekend and beginning of the week. When I get home from work at 2PM PST I'll render a wget list and update all files. Thanks for the update, Justin. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU

Re: Rsync Server

2007-01-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
[cc'd to BLFS-Dev] Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/30/07 12:47 CST: Not something I want to get into now either, but certainly a candidate for change at some point. I suppose, though I'll continue to argue that configuration files required by a daemon don't belong in /srv. /srv is for

Re: NFS Server boot script

2007-01-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/28/07 11:17 CST: I don't use nfs, but out of curiosity I checked what the fedora bootscript does. It's roughly the same, using `killproc nfsd'. Of course, I don't know exactly what killproc does on fedora. The one difference I saw is that rpc.mountd is

Re: NFS Server boot script

2007-01-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/28/07 11:48 CST: Just before my mail, Hans-Joachim said that he still gets [FAIL] as the result which these changes. I read that, but cannot confirm it (in fact, my testing shows everything works). Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /home/randy ps -ef|grep nfs

Re: Dead Links

2007-01-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 01/25/07 14:00 CST: Attached the true_bad_links file generated with the new test-links target for r6463. From 930 tested URLs there is only 44 dead links, not so bad ;-) Noted in this recent version that if both the HTTP and FTP links for a package is broken,

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/25/07 01:11 CST: Randy, I'm sorry for my tardy reply. I just haven't had the time I'd like to have had for BLFS. My quick and painless migration wasn't. :-) 60 some odd hours later, at least PDS hasn't been so bad. Don't worry about it. I'm glad you came

ISO-Codes update

2007-01-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to sneak in an update to the ISO Codes package. It seems trivial, and without risk, as best as I can tell, there isn't anything but a few bug fixes and many, many updated translations. The requirement for Python is still accurate. I'm thinking about going to the 0.58 version as

Re: r6458 - in trunk: BOOK/introduction/welcome BOOK/x/installing auxfiles/xorg

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/24/07 08:58 CST: Oh, good catch. Certainly back that one off. I should look through all the apps since I don't really use them. You mean, that just a few days away from release we're *experimenting* with package updates, and aren't certain what works and

Re: r6458 - in trunk: BOOK/introduction/welcome BOOK/x/installing auxfiles/xorg

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/24/07 09:24 CST: This one slipped by me. I'm going through all the packages again in gitweb to make sure nothing else will break. The libraries, which are much more important, I have tested. Sorry about the problem. I will bet that it's the only one

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/23/07 12:19 CST: DJ, how does this schedule fit for the package updates you have on your ticket list? I noticed there's three package updates you still have slated to get in. Is it critical that any of them go in for BLFS-6.2.0? No reply on list

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 10:57 CST: I'd give it another day and release the alpha tomorrow. I'll see how my time goes today. I sort of had today outlined for BLFS work, and tomorrow is really spoken for. I'm seeing issues with the patch list, I'm trying to work it out now.

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/24/07 11:09 CST: I'd like to give a little longer. He seems to be working through the packages since he caught the Xorg error and had a different catch yesterday. Well, it seems that the majority want to delay the release cycle. Let's consider it delayed.

Re: Slow patch syncing

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/24/07 10:28 CST: Does anyone know how often the patches svn repo is resynced to the html server? I committed a patch almost 24 hours ago for xorg-server, and it's still not there, from what I can tell. Not sure what is going on there. The Patches were

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 11:40 CST: What patches are missing? At least the firefox and thunderbird patches. And Dan updated the patch repo with the correct files on 1/22. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/24/07 12:24 CST: Randy, I have two tickets with 6.2.0 milestones, #2172 and #2216. I should be able to get a workable solution for #2172 in by tonight. #2216 might have to wait for tomorrow. Is this allowed with your release schedule, or should they be

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/24/07 12:02 CST: xorg-server-1.1.1-security-1.patch This seems to be all of them: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~/Books/BLFS/BOOK wc -l new_patch1 103 new_patch1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~/Books/BLFS/BOOK for FILENAME in `cat new_patch1`; \ do wget --spider

Patch repo

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Mostly to Bruce, FYI for everyone else. It appears the BLFS patch repo (HTTP) has permission problems. All the files on the quantum server are 640 perms without any world read. ?? -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable

Re: Patch repo

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 13:54 CST: Please give me the url you are using. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/downloads/works. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/svn/ works. Those URLs as far as I know, don't have anything to do with BLFS. What is

Dead Links

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Using the wget list provided by Manuel, it is fairly trivial to check for bad book download URLs. Here is one run from just a couple of minutes ago: The command I ran was: for FILENAME in `cat /home/randy/public_html/blfs-book-xsl/wget-list`; \ do wget --spider --tries=2 --timeout=60

Re: Dead Links

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/24/07 14:29 CST: Using the wget list provided by Manuel, it is fairly trivial to check for bad book download URLs. Here is one run from just a couple of minutes ago: Noted that the wget-list file doesn't include the HTTP links for zip or unzip. Not sure

Re: Dead Links

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 01/24/07 14:35 CST: If you want to test also the HTTP links, say me to do a small change in the XSL code. Yes, please. Even if it is a different target. Properly working, this would be invaluable as a way to periodically check all the download URLs. Thanks

Re: Patch repo

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 14:35 CST: Let me know if I missed anything. Do we want to address the fact that svn patches are located in one place, and stable (versioned) patches are located in an entirely different area? -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version

Re: Dead Links

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 01/24/07 14:49 CST: I must to review and fix also additional files URLs tracking (*.mozconfig files and and others links that are not packages or patches, if any), thus wait the update for tomorrow. No hurry. Thanks Manuel. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips

Re: Patch repo

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 14:53 CST: IMO it doesn't make sense to try to completely automate this. It doesn't happen that often and its very hard to think of everything that can happen in advance. I agree with everything you said. However, none of it addresses the situation

Re: Patch repo

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 15:17 CST: OK, done. You can access both: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/6.1/ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/svn/ and in the near future we will have: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/6.2/ Is

Re: Patch repo

2007-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/24/07 15:39 CST: Both the old link and the new link will work. Changing the patch-root entity is optional. Could you check that perhaps when the script populates that it only clean patch files? The bootscript package is no longer available, so I figured it

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/20/07 18:34 CST: Due to the tremendous progress, I'd like to bump up the schedule just a bit, unless there are objections. Here is what I was thinking: January 24: cut a 6.2.0-alpha tarball January 31: cut a 6.2.0-beta1 tarball February 7: cut

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 11:55 CST: So, the test is this. If you have KDE in /opt/kde without /opt/kde/share in XDG_DATA_DIRS, do you still see the applications in the GNOME menus? You can also go the other direction if you have GNOME in /opt/gnome and start a KDE session.

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:38 CST: So, apparently you can put them all together at the same time because GNOME wasn't weird at all. I'm confused now. As was I, hence me removing the If you have both GNOME and KDE installed: stuff from the book. I'm more than willing to try

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:38 CST: So, apparently you can put them all together at the same time because GNOME wasn't weird at all. I'm confused now. One other thought: I experienced issues when both desktops were sharing XDG vars *and* I ran update-desktop-database. There

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:53 CST: So, I'd try these settings and see what happens. export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/gnome/xdg:/etc/kde/xdg:/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/gnome/share:/opt/kde/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share And /etc/kde/share in XDG_DATA_DIRS if it

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/22/07 14:06 CST: Okay, here's the first round of results, and surprisingly, the only real issue I see is that the GNOME desktop displays the KDE .desktop files so you end up with a bunch of KDE (for me just about 7 icons) clutter on the GNOME desktop

Re: Links to LFS in the BLFS book

2007-01-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/21/07 11:22 CST: The problem is that it looks ugly. I propose that we change the display, not the url, like this: ulink url=lfs-root;/chapter06/man-db.htmlLFS Man-DB page/ulink Sounds okay to me. There is also an issue that the url is less than

Re: Links to LFS in the BLFS book

2007-01-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/21/07 12:30 CST: When we go to final release, shouldn't we convert to absolute links anyway? Pointing to the current stable is not necessarily a good idea. For instance, the 6.1 version of the book should point to LFS-6.1, not LFS stable, which is 6.2.

Re: Links to LFS in the BLFS book

2007-01-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/21/07 12:44 CST: !ENTITY downloads-root http://www.lfs-domainname;/blfs/downloads/svn; !ENTITY sources-anduin-http http://anduin.lfs-domainname;/sources/BLFS/svn; !ENTITY sources-anduin-ftp ftp://anduin.lfs-domainname;/BLFS/svn; Should we

Re: Links to LFS in the BLFS book

2007-01-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/21/07 12:49 CST: Answering my own question: No. As we release -rc?, we don't want to have to populate quantum and anduin with duplicate trees. We should leave these as svn until final and then change them/populate the servers. Not necessarily. Wouldn't it

Mention of CLFS

2007-01-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Something that has been on my mind for a while, and just now getting around to mentioning it in a public forum. I'd like to mention the CLFS project in BLFS. Specifically, the part of CLFS that has to do with the BLFS packages. Some questions: 1. Where in the book should it be mentioned

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/20/07 19:22 CST: This is a bit aggressive for me. KDE-3.5.6 is due to be released on Jan 23. There is no way I can get it into the book by Jan 24. I already thought about that after I reviewed the original thread, and discovered that KDE is not due out

Re: BLFS-6.2.0

2007-01-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/20/07 19:48 CST: Other than that, is there anything you see that you'd like me to tackle? Yes, my 6'1, 235 lb. linebacker of a son, who just the other day clean and jerked 440 lbs. Seems along with football now, he wants to do competitive power-lifting.

Re: Locale Related Issues (again)

2007-01-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/20/07 19:41 CST: Discuss. Unfortunately, I am more of a goon than you when it comes to localization. My recent commit (which invoked comment from Bruce) about the man pages should be enough to realize I'm no resource at all. I will defer to Alexander's

Re: [BLFS Trac] #2219: Firefox-1.5.0.9

2007-01-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
BLFS Trac wrote these words on 01/19/07 13:24 CST: * status: new = assigned When do we draw the line on package freeze? Please review the email sent 1/12/07 to blfs-dev that explains the policy on our soft package freeze. Note that it doesn't say we can't do it, but it should be discussed

Re: Xorg-7.1+ packages

2007-01-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/18/07 08:14 CST: I can produce a list of updated packages later if anyone thinks this is a good idea. I've just installed X with this policy and everything's working fine here. If you're good with it, Dan, then I'm for it. We'll see what others say, but

Re: Couple of fixes

2007-01-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/17/07 01:37 CST: Just a reminder to open ticket...I'll get to it tomorrow. Link for GPM is dead Seems fine to me. Both clicking on the link in a browser and using wget. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~/build wget ftp://arcana.linux.it/pub/gpm/gpm-1.20.1.tar.bz2

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