RE: On the topic of atheism.

2003-07-14 Thread Ritu
Robert Seeberger wrote: OK! That's fair then. I urge everyone (who cares about the subject) to provide some sort of justification for their beliefs. Without getting into the details of my beliefs or how they have changed and enlarged over the years, I'll start with stating that I believe in

Re: Too much TV...

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall wrote: So on Friday's Buffy rerun, ep 3.12 'Helpless' Dominic Keating (Voyager) appeared as Blair, a Watcher's Council flunky who got killed. So that was amusing. I never saw Buffy Season 3: Fox has re-run Seasons 1 e 2 twice this year, and then they jump to Season 5 and 6.

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-14 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote If R=5km, m=4.85e-26, g=9.8, k=1.381e-23, T=300, and we note that h must be in km, then P/P0 = exp[ -0.115 h ] exp[ +1.15e-2 h^2 ] , h in km, R=5km, h = R For Rama, with R=8km, P/P0 = exp[ -0.115 h ] exp[ +7.17e-3 h^2 ] , h in km,

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-14 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:23:53AM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: The main problem is that the pressures calculated for Earth disagree with the figures I have for a pilot's standard atmosphere. In areas without clouds, the earth's actual atmosphere is best represented by a dry adiabatic

LXG (no spoilers)

2003-07-14 Thread TomFODW
Well...there are a _few_ semi-spoilers at the end. I was very disappointed with this movie. I thought it was surprisingly poorly made - the cinematography was dim and blurred, the editing was choppy, the action sequences were staged in a way that you could not actually see what people were

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.) I have known a number of

Re: Too much TV...

2003-07-14 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 02:11 am, Alberto Monteiro wrote: William T Goodall wrote: So on Friday's Buffy rerun, ep 3.12 'Helpless' Dominic Keating (Voyager) appeared as Blair, a Watcher's Council flunky who got killed. So that was amusing. I never saw Buffy Season 3: Fox has re-run

Buffy/Angel [was: Too much TV...]

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E BTW, who is Faith and when did she appear in the Series? Last Angel episode

Re: Buffy/Angel [was: Too much TV...]

2003-07-14 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 02:55 pm, Alberto Monteiro wrote: S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E BTW, who is Faith and when did she appear in the Series? Last Angel episode (4.13) begins with Wesley getting Faith from Prison. Faith

Re: Brin: A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy

2003-07-14 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Recently, Clay Shirky wrote an essay on how to create and maintain long-lived groups among people who communicate with each other electronically. Interestingly, although Shirky does not say so specifically, his main focus parallels that of David Brin, who wrote an essay on disputation arenas.

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Bryon Daly
Julia Thompson wrote: I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.) I never paid much

Brin: movie ripoffs.

2003-07-14 Thread d.brin
My friend Paul Preuss probably won't be suing the guys who made THE CORE. Still, the possibility glimmers as we stack up comparisons and things stolen from his book CORE. (Oh, and several scenes and thing clearly borrowed from EARTH.) It makes me wonder if someone sometime should set up a

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Ray Ludenia wrote: Julia Thompson I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.)

RE: The limits of vision

2003-07-14 Thread Chad Cooper
I thought that they got some of it right. I found this part most funny: The purpose of this improved Zworykin-Von Neumann automaton is to predict the weather with an accuracy unattainable before 1980. It is a combination of calculating machine and forecaster. The calculator solves thousands of

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bryon Daly asked: So I'm curious, why do you wish to deprive your daughter of all things Barbie? Barbie is a white-supremacist doll :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: movie ripoffs.

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
d.brin wrote: My friend Paul Preuss probably won't be suing the guys who made THE CORE. Still, the possibility glimmers as we stack up comparisons and things stolen from his book CORE. (Oh, and several scenes and thing clearly borrowed from EARTH.) I think this can cause some

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: My mother, while visiting, looked at the catalog my aunt had for Barbie stuff; my cousin had over $20 worth of clothing, etc. for her Barbie, and this was around 1965. My daughter's Army of Barbies was bought when I could get them by US$1.99; now they are ten

RE: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Horn, John
From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryon Daly asked: So I'm curious, why do you wish to deprive your daughter of all things Barbie? Barbie is a white-supremacist doll :-) My daughter's army of Barbie includes quite a few multi-cultural Barbies. Nita has made a

Re: Brin: movie ripoffs.

2003-07-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend Paul Preuss probably won't be suing the guys who made THE CORE. Still, the possibility glimmers as we stack up comparisons and things stolen from his book CORE. (Oh, and several scenes and thing clearly borrowed from EARTH.) It makes

Re: Brin: movie ripoffs.

2003-07-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d.brin wrote: My friend Paul Preuss probably won't be suing the guys who made THE CORE. Still, the possibility glimmers as we stack up comparisons and things stolen from his book CORE. (Oh, and several scenes and thing clearly

Re: Too much TV...

2003-07-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Too much TV... Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 01:23:34 +0100 ...and not enough actors :) So on Friday's Buffy rerun, ep 3.12 'Helpless' Dominic Keating (Voyager) Not Voyager.

Re: Too much TV...

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Gabriel wrote: So on Friday's Buffy rerun, ep 3.12 'Helpless' Dominic Keating (Voyager) Not Voyager. He plays Malcolm on Enterprise. Enterprise::Malcolm also plays the Evil Overlord/Demon in a series whose name I don't remember, and that seems like a Highlander ripoff

Re: Too much TV...

2003-07-14 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 09:28 pm, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: So on Friday's Buffy rerun, ep 3.12 'Helpless' Dominic Keating (Voyager) Not Voyager. He plays Malcolm on Enterprise. Just testing :) Enterprise::Malcolm also plays the Evil Overlord/Demon in a series whose

Re: LXG (no spoilers)

2003-07-14 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Tom wrote: Well...there are a _few_ semi-spoilers at the end. *snip* I loved the LXG comic book, I think it was a grand conceit; I think the movie is a huge letdown. Spoilers (of a sort; some are more like nitpicks): The thing that's been bothering me is the Tom Sawyer thing -

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Halupovich Ilana wrote: Joan Vinge - there is another book about Sparks and Moon - World's End. I read and liked Psion and Catspaw and I read somewhere that there is another book in those series called Psiren, but I was unable to find it. _World's End_ goes between _Snow Queen_ and _Summer

Re: Gotta raise the BS flag on this one

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Tom Beck wrote: Another ponderable is the fascination British sci-fi shows have with the Old West. I can't think of a BritSF show that didn't try an oater (The Gunfighters, Living in Harmony). Maybe Blakes 7 didn't; don't recall. Most of them are stinkers. The only decent one is Red Dwarf's

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Bryon Daly wrote: I never paid much attention to Barbie issues, but I suddenly realize I have a daughter now who will likely one day be wanting a host of Barbie dolls, Barbie beach houses, Barbie Corvettes, etc. So I'm curious, why do you wish to deprive your daughter of all things Barbie? I

Re: The limits of vision

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Chad Cooper wrote: What we call robotic factories they call intelligence integrate industrial production . I find this interesting because they seemed to lack the proper language to describe robotic automation. They also mentioned using endless punch cards to program the robotic process. I

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
rob wrote: I expect that I will keep repeating myself on this subject occasionally, until I get a reality check that will tell me if I am alone in believing John C Wright, author of The Golden Age and The Phoenix Exultant is the hottest new author since Brin hit the scene. Tom replied: I'm a

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread TomFODW
(My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). They're into Malibu Stacy now?;) (Either that or they're buying real clothing for themselves, which is even more expensive. g) Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always

Re: Too much TV...

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Alberto wrote: I guess I am watching too much TV William replied: Only if it's more than 24 hours/day... Speaking of TV, has anyone else here watched the first few episodes of Dead Like Me, the new series on Showtime? It's funny, quirky, and in spots just a little scary... Reggie Bautista But

Hunting Bambi? Misogeny Rears Its Ugly Head

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
Bizarre Game Targets Women: Hunting for Bambi http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1356380nav=168XGqk0 (Video onsite) It's a new form of adult entertainment, and men are paying thousands of dollars to shoot naked women with paint ball guns. They're coming to Las Vegas to do it. This

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Russell C. wrote: (My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. Reggie Bautista Legomaniac Maru

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). They're into Malibu Stacy now?;) (Either that or they're buying real clothing for themselves, which is even more expensive. g) That's nothing - one of them is looking at wedding

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: I guess I'm a little behind... Erik replied: Better to be a little behind than a big ass! Big ass, smart ass, it's all good... :-) Reggie Bautista Baby Got Back Maru _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Reading lists. On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 06:20:42PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: I guess I'm a little behind... Better to be a little

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Reggie Bautista wrote: My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. Repeat after me : Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. (It is, after all, a constructive hobby) (And e-Bay has

Re: Hunting Bambi? Misogeny Rears Its Ugly Head

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Robert Seeberger wrote: Marv Glovinsky is a clinical psychologist. He says Hunting for Bambi is every man's fantasy come true. Then he's not a very good one - or I'm a disgrace to manhood. This creeps me out! I'd like to have a try at paintball, against other armed players, wearing fatigues and

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. Russell replied: Repeat after me : Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. (It is, after all, a constructive hobby) Playing with Legos is

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: Russell C. wrote: (My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. An adult collecting Barbies is

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ilana wrote: And speaking of several books in one - Did anybody read Octavia Butler Lilith's Brood ? Julia replied: Isn't that the Xenogenesis Trilogy, starting with _Dawn_, then _Imago_, then _Adulthood Rites_? I bought the individual books in paperback awhile back, enjoyed them all, and got

Re: Brin: A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy

2003-07-14 Thread d.brin
Robert's summery of the group and disputation papers was wonderfully cogent and well-done, worthy of a fine book review or an A+ term paper. As for comparisons with THE CORE... don't just say that you saw em... write em down! Ideally specific, the more the better! Thanks folks. Thrive.

Re: Hunting Bambi? Misogeny Rears Its Ugly Head

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Hunting Bambi? Misogeny Rears Its Ugly Head --- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then he's not a very good one - or I'm a

Re: Lego

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Reggie Bautista wrote: Anita has mostly stayed away from e-Bay, but our friend Mike has gotten some pretty good deals on Legos there. Have you done much Lego buying or selling on e-Bay, Russell? Lots... Some kits were fun to build, but I didn't want to keep them. (esp if there's lots of

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
George wrote: BTW, Mr. Vinge has come up with two brilliant and frightening concepts, being Bobbled and being Focused. That's just how I usually describe a couple of concepts from John Cramer's _Einstein's Bridge_. The concepts are Reading and Writing but they don't exactly mean what you think

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/6/2003 10:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing Ryan in his later Houston years. IIRC, he had one losing season (well maybe it was a 15-14 season) when he led the league in ERA. He

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
I did. I think that was ridiculous. If you think Sandy Koufax was the best pitcher of all time, you're simply wrong. There is no serious argument for this. If you think he was the most dominant pitcher on a per-game basis you're also wrong, but at least you have a case and we can talk

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Koufax, Bob, a pretty knowledgeable baseball guy, said that Pedro was better than he was. That's worth something too, don't you think? He's just being modest. But yes I would take that very seriously. Bob, I have some idea of what a phenomenally accomplished

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Koufax, Bob, a pretty knowledgeable baseball guy, said that Pedro was better than he was. That's worth something too, don't you think? He's just being modest. But yes I would take that very seriously. Bob, I have some idea of what a phenomenally accomplished

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
If we use your metrics - that is, just against the other players of his time, ignoring park effects, difficulty, everything - then why isn't Gibson the best ever? His 1968 season was better than anything Koufax ever did, phenomenal though Koufax was. It was the best season ever in my

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-14 Thread Bemmzim
If we use your metrics - that is, just against the other players of his time, ignoring park effects, difficulty, everything - then why isn't Gibson the best ever? His 1968 season was better than anything Koufax ever did, phenomenal though Koufax was. It was the best season ever in my

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: I've always heard good things about Octavia Butler but have never gotten around to reading anything she has written. Where's a good place to start? (As if my to read stack wasn't tall enough already ;-) I'll say _Wild Seed_. It's a stand-alone. Most of her other

RE: Hunting Bambi? Misogeny Rears Its Ugly Head

2003-07-14 Thread Horn, John
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched the video from the site. It looks to be real enough. Of course it *could* be a hoax, but that really is the Las Vegas TV news so it probably isn't one. The jury is still out on Snopes: