Re: Miranda died

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Nov 2003, at 2:19 am, Julia Thompson wrote: Dan went out to take some scraps out to the dogs, and Miranda didn't come. He went looking for her and found her body next to the shed. She was a very nice dog, very *doggy*, utterly adoring. We're going to miss her very much. That's sad news.

Re: Public trans (was Re: other things)

2003-11-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
As someone who grew up there, I have to say, I'm shocked to hear you say it. I always hated the DC Metro system because it was: 1) Too expensive and 2) Not extensive By which I meant that it cost a lot to get anywhere, and I couldn't get to the parties in Georgetown, which is where I

RE: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread ritu
Julia Thompson wrote: :) 1) Yes, it would be nice if Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden died of cancer, the world would be better off. Don't mean to be a kill-joy but the world would be better off only to the extent of two nasty characters ceasing to exist. From all accounts, OBL's

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Dogmatism --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: EMP device? was 'The Burning Man'

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Nov 2003 at 22:45, David Hobby wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: ... My reaction to such behavior was to inform the offender sweetly that if he uses that bullhorn one more time while people (like me) are trying to sleep, ... My reaction to s similar incident involved the one and

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Nov 2003, at 4:54 pm, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Nov 2003, at 9:38 pm, Jim Sharkey wrote: The Fool wrote: So when andrew crystal starts building concentration camps and death camps, for atheists, freethinkers, and rationalists SNIP further

Costume Gets Osceola H.S. Student Suspended

2003-11-03 Thread The Fool
http://www.wftv.com/education/2604761/detail.html Halloween Costume Gets Osceola H.S. Student Suspended POSTED: 10:15 a.m. EST November 3, 2003 UPDATED: 10:56 a.m. EST November 3, 2003 KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- Osceola High School administrators thought a student's Halloween costume was more trick

Re: Miranda died

2003-11-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: Miranda died Dan went out to take some scraps out to the dogs, and Miranda didn't come. He went looking for her and found her body next to the shed.

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: religious/political question Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:44:04 + On 2 Nov 2003, at 4:54 pm, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, William T

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Jan Coffey
As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who isn't a staunch conservative is out to get the Jews kind of thinker. If he can come off that way to someone such as myself then he definitely needs to back up his claims that

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who isn't a staunch conservative is out to get the Jews kind of thinker. If he can come off that way to someone such as myself then

more life at fox news

2003-11-03 Thread The Fool
http://www.poynter.org/forum/?id=letters From MATT GROSS, assistant editor, New York magazine: As a former editor at Foxnews.com -- and therefore clearly a disgruntled ex-employee -- let me just say that the right-wing bias was there in the newsroom, up-front and obvious, from the day a certain

RE: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Chad Cooper
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question) If you want to spend hours commuting to and from work, Jersey's your place

Re: [Listref] A Tirade Against 'The Burning Man'

2003-11-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote: I later came up with a way of radically expressing myself regarding the bullhorn. Seize the bullhorn, drop trou, and shower it. And I made it clear that if I'm ever pregnant and awakened by a bullhorn at an ungodly hour ever again, I *will* do that. So now the real Julia comes

Re: Taking it all off (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Robert Seeberger wrote: Question: Why do people on this list so frequently show their ass? Jim replied: I do it because I'm an attention whore. Well, that and I like the feeling of dollar bills sliding into my g-string. To (probably mis-)quote an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, did anyone

RE: DRAFT

2003-11-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
d.brin wrote: But yes, a priority has to go to novels! So, guess where I'll be returning next? Hint... they swim. They talk. They fly Jim replied: Glee! It's a story about a bunch of Gameras! :) LOL! By the way, has anyone else noticed that there are suddenly a whole lot of Godzilla and

Re: Miranda died

2003-11-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote: Dan went out to take some scraps out to the dogs, and Miranda didn't come. He went looking for her and found her body next to the shed. I'm so sorry to hear this. You have my and my wife's condolences. Reggie Bautista

RE: [Listref] A Tirade Against 'The Burning Man'

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell snippage And Jeff snorted: This is completely unreadable. In the future, could you please refrain from attributing tone to my comments where I insert none? Thanks. cha-grin I meant to be whimsical, not denigrating. I

Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: Someone else said once in the same newsgroup Of course, since JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway. jms' reply was Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey Jim replied: Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey? There aren't that many areas in the world where you are

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So the Scopes trial was a case of throwing out the baby with the bath water? I can see that people objecting to the nonsense of Social Darwinism could get it conflated with biological Darwinism, but I didn't know it actually happened.

RE: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reggie Bautista Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 01:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question) Then I drove to Colorado. If most people's

Re: Miranda died

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She was a very nice dog, very *doggy*, utterly adoring. We're going to miss her very much. I'm sorry - it's so hard to lose the animal members of our families. A tiny consolation is that she died at home instead of the vet's... Debbi :( Dee's

Speaking of anti-Semitism

2003-11-03 Thread Dan Minette
EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat More Europeans see Israel as a threat than North Korea. The US and North Korea are tied. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/afp/20031103/wl_mideast_afp/eu_poll_israel_031103172948 Dan M

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: [...] if a certain friend of mine had gotten pregnant (and she was doing everything she could to prevent it) Why do I get the impression that everything she could do did not include celibacy? Just Wondering Maru Are

Key Network Nodes

2003-11-03 Thread The Fool
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2003/11/02/the_crusad ers/ The Crusaders A powerful faction of religious and political conservatives is waging a latter-day counterreformation, battling widespread efforts to liberalize the American Catholic Church. And it has the clout and the

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Dogmatism As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who

I'll bite Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Dan Minette wrote: Lots of things that are true should be but are not common knowledge. The reasons for this could be the subject of a long thread. :-) I would be interested in reading such a thread. Care to begin it? :) Julia

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ...He gave the work of Marx that he based his opinion on. Its easy to find and read on the web; its quite short. I just typed marx jewish question and got http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Archive/1844-JQ/ let me quote from it. snip Part

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 11/2/2003 1:30:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marx _certainly_ would have approved of Lenin's and Stalin's anti-semitism. On the Jewish Question is so viciously anti-semitic that the historical affinity of some Jewish intellectuals for Marxism has

RE: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Forbes Rating of Worst Commutes to work: Greater Los Angeles San Fran Dallas/Fort Worth Houston Washington D.C. Denver grunt I saw this the other day...hard to believe that we're worse than New York or Boston, but I can vouch for Dallas

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: religious/political question If you seriously think we should be grateful to you both for insulting the intelligence of list members and repeated smug

Brin: A review of The Life Eaters from CBG

2003-11-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
Does anyone remember how I said I wasn’t interested in checking out DB’s and Ascott Hampton’s new graphic novel, _The Life Eaters_, because I didn’t care for _Forgiveness_? Well, Brent Frankenhoff, Managing Editor of _Comics Buyer’s Guide_ (www.comicsbuyersguide.com) has a different view, and

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Nov 2003 at 18:19, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: religious/political question If you seriously think we should be grateful to you both for

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jon Gabriel wrote: As Jim so wisely said, the arrogant, condescending attitude you're adopting isn't likely to win you any support. Actually, that was Julia, but I do share the sentiment. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most

RE: Brin: A review of The Life Eaters from CBG

2003-11-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Sharkey Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 04:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Brin: A review of The Life Eaters from CBG Jim The Comic Book Guy Maru Thanks for posting the review; what

Re: Taking it all off (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
Reggie Bautista wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: Why do people on this list so frequently show their ass? Jim replied: I do it because I'm an attention whore. Well, that and I like the feeling of dollar bills sliding into my g-string. To (probably mis-)quote an episode of Buffy the Vampire

Re: DRAFT

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: RE: DRAFT d.brin wrote: But yes, a priority has to go to novels! So, guess where I'll be returning next? Hint... they swim. They talk. They

RE: Br!n: A review of The Life Eaters from CBG

2003-11-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: Thanks for posting the review; what did you think of Y:The Last Man, btw? I've been picking it up since you encouraged me to try it; it's quite good, though I have yet to buy the first two issues. As a result, I have no idea how it all starts yet. I'm just not

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:31 PM Subject: Re: religious/political question On 3 Nov 2003 at 18:19, Robert Seeberger wrote: Crap equals ass times the speed of life

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Nov 2003, at 7:59 pm, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who isn't a staunch conservative is out to get the Jews kind of thinker. If he can come off

Re: First Kill Bill review

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 26 Sep 2003, at 6:12 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/25/2003 7:23:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: First Kill Bill review When I saw the title, I thought: My puns aren't _that_ bad. William Taylor - Waiying to see uf

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who isn't a staunch conservative is out to get the Jews kind of thinker. If he

Re: First Kill Bill review

2003-11-03 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/3/2003 6:22:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on. And who's holding the fire ax. ___

[L3] RE: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert J. Chassell wrote: snippage throughout Is the theological-political connection right? Is it fair to say that many people do wish to behave with the same qualities as their God? If so, and if the qualities are as stated, does this predefine the

Re: [L3] RE: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread TomFODW
[He overstates his case here, as most Christians consider Jesus 'given for the sake of the world' and I think there is a Jewish concept of 'being a light unto the world' also.] There is a core Jewish concept of the people Israel being called upon by God to be or l'goyim (a light unto the

Gold shells can kill inoperable tumours

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/04/wnan04.xmlsSheet=/news/2003/11/04/ixworld.htmlsecureRefresh=true_requestid=22758 Tiny golden nanoshells offer a new way to kill inoperable tumours without harming surrounding tissue, according to a study published today. The shells,

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Nov 2003, at 7:17 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: religious/political question Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:44:04 + On 2 Nov 2003, at 4:54 pm, Julia

Re: Miranda died

2003-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Dan went out to take some scraps out to the dogs, and Miranda didn't come. Sorry about the loss, sucks to have a void like that in a household. Funny how pets have so much character, and their own personality.

Re: [Listref] A Tirade Against 'The Burning Man'

2003-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: Julia wrote: I later came up with a way of radically expressing myself regarding the bullhorn. Seize the bullhorn, drop trou, and shower it. And I made it clear that if I'm ever pregnant and awakened by a bullhorn at an ungodly hour ever again,

Re: Taking it all off (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: Question: Why do people on this list so frequently show their ass? Jim replied: I do it because I'm an attention whore. Well, that and I like the feeling of dollar bills sliding into my g-string. To (probably

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Nov 2003, at 7:17 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: religious/political question Date: Mon, 3

Re: [L3] RE: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote:] [He overstates his case here, as most Christians consider Jesus 'given for the sake of the world' and I think there is a Jewish concept of 'being a light unto the world' also.] There is a core Jewish concept of the people Israel being called upon

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: religious/political question Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:42:51 + On 3 Nov 2003, at 7:17 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Nov 2003, at 1:23 am, Jan Coffey wrote: --- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who isn't a staunch conservative is out to get the

subtlety Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: And here I was thinking that subtlety isn't my strong suit. One day, a number of years ago, my sister told me that I wasn't very good at being subtle. You think I'm blunt. I wouldn't put it *that* way. But *I* would. After that, I figured I ought to

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't Marx a Jew ethnicaly? His family converted. It's certainly possible to be a self-hating Jew. Were his statments about the Jewish religion and not the Jewish people? One of the things that makes Judaism special is that you can't really

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Nov 2003, at 3:04 am, Julia Thompson wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Nov 2003, at 7:17 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Nov 2003, at 3:29 am, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't Marx a Jew ethnicaly? His family converted. It's certainly possible to be a self-hating Jew. But Marx was quite obviously ebulliently full of himself. Were his statments about the Jewish religion and

Re: Miranda died

2003-11-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:19 PM 11/2/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Dan went out to take some scraps out to the dogs, and Miranda didn't come. He went looking for her and found her body next to the shed. She was a very nice dog, very *doggy*, utterly adoring. We're going to miss her very much. I'm sorry to hear

Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:04 PM 11/2/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:50 AM 11/2/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: [...] if a certain friend of mine had gotten pregnant (and she was doing everything she could to prevent it) Why do I get the impression that

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
William T. Goodall wrote: Discrimination based on one's intelligence, athleticism or beauty... ... is just shallow? :-) Or did you mean discrimination based on definition 2 below? Dictionary.com defines discrimination as: 1) The act of discriminating. 2) The ability or power to see

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't Marx a Jew ethnicaly? His family converted. It's certainly possible to be a self-hating Jew. Oh come on! That's a stretch and you know it. I think you will agree that it is more likely that he made

Re: Speaking of anti-Semitism

2003-11-03 Thread Russell Chapman
Dan Minette wrote: EU embarrassed as poll labels Israel world's biggest threat More Europeans see Israel as a threat than North Korea. The US and North Korea are tied. Absolutely staggering. Exactly what do they think Israel ever would (or even could) do that would be a threat to world peace.

Re: subtlety Re: religious/political question

2003-11-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:22 PM 11/3/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: And here I was thinking that subtlety isn't my strong suit. One day, a number of years ago, my sister told me that I wasn't very good at being subtle. You think I'm blunt. I wouldn't put it *that* way.

Re: Barbour campaign shows GOP's white supremacist side

2003-11-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:34 AM 11/2/03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imagine that a number of white people in Texas who own guns would have something to say about this Julia I would imagine that a number of black and Hispanic people in Texas who own guns

RE: Taking it all off (was Re: religious/political question)

2003-11-03 Thread ritu
Reggie Bautista wrote: To (probably mis-)quote an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, did anyone else just go to a really scary visual place? Sorry, no. :) I have no idea what Jim looks like but a g-string on a string of letters isn't scary at all. :) Ritu

Re: Barbour campaign shows GOP's white supremacist side

2003-11-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:43 PM 11/2/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imagine that a number of white people in Texas who own guns would have something to say about this You would hope they would not be thinking selfishly of themselves (You can't move them people into MY neighborhood) One suspects that a

[Listref] House Cats and Ferrets Are Easily Infected With SARS Virus

2003-11-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
And here I thought my kitties just increased my risk of finding half-a-mouse on the doorstoop and the occasional hairball on a carpet... http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/76/90032.htm?printing=true ...New research shows that common house pets such as cats and ferrets may easily become infected