--- The Fool said: I Still don't understand why Dr.
Brin has Difficulty with Qbasic. It seems very much
like he's expressing the meme: things were better
in the past, a golden age that he himself rails
against so much.
Well now ain't that sweet. An' seein' as how it bears
no relationship
to
your unneccessary and silly criticism.
Pursue this if you wish, but please remove the Brin:
annotation from the subject line.
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- The Fool said: I Still don't understand why
Dr.
Brin has Difficulty
--- The Fool:
It just seems to me that you've spent more time
searching (you said
you've been looking for more than two years) for the
'right' interpreter
than you say will spend 'learning' and 'using' the
interpreter.
Yes, you keep explaining to us the remarkable way that
things seem to
Right. It is illegal in most Western countries,
including all of the US
and Europe. A copyright such as this in China is
hardly worth the paper
it is printed on.
I beg to differ. Asian nations have long learned to
interpret intellectual property laws any way they
wish. Their range of
Stunned. I am simply stunned.
After two years, Dave Land has come to the rescue with
Chipmunk Basic for the Macintosh.
I will not jiunx myself with overconfidence. But at
first glance it is everything I was looking for in a
simple BASIC interpreter that works turnkey,
accompanied by a tutorial
Seriously, though, Dave is planning a trip to
Legoland in a couple of
weeks, so perhaps he could pick them up in person
and say hi.
SOunds fine. I hope you are all doing well.
I may be giving a talk in SF October the First.
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Fight The Future: Encrypted Screws
Imagine a world where you cannot take apart
anything, or attempting to
take apart devices, open computer cases, install 3rd
party replacement
parts or modifying an existing device was completely
banned by greedy
I think you all miss the point.
I have dozens of old books with simple BASIC programs
in them that tell the computer to compute or to move a
dot in ways that show the vital importance of a simple
algorithm at creating what appears on the screen. If
I had BASIC I could sit with my son and type in
--- Erik said:
I think YOU miss the point. As I said, you can get
BASIC on Linux
Fascinating. Except that it will be absurd for me to
switch to Linux for that purpose. Moreover, while
Linux will save the world from the horrors of Windows,
it will also set the stage for the Chinese to pull
There are many freely and easily available
compilers in many
languages so this doesn't really disturb me. I've
heard Yet Another
Basic is good (though I haven't used it myself):
http://www.yabasic.de/
I shall try ybasic, thanks.
But after the horror of trying xbasic and qbasic and
all
--- Alberto Monteiro:
David Brin wrote:
I think YU miss the point. As I said, you can
get BASIC on Linux
Fascinating. Except that it will be absurd for me
to switch to Linux for that purpose.
Why? You did switch from DOS to Windows 3.1, then
from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95, then
Alas, qbasic and xbasic were incomprehensible. In
trying to 'modernize', they made it impossible to
figure out how to type a few lines and run them to see
what happens.
Ybasic has a friendly-looking intro page. (Thanks).
I shall look it over soon.
meanwhile, everybody thrive. And visit
Hate is based largely on fear. All the cultures that I mentioned have some. Paranoia
and Mcho and feudalism use hate as fuel. The East and West at least officially don't
like it... but that does not always work.
See my essays on Tolkien/Lucas. Romanticism encourages hate. The enlightenment
Yes Keith - when fear levels are high, empathy is a tool for understanding and
defeating prey. When fear is low, empathy becomes sympathy.
I must cut things off now. No more till July. Too Busy. Forgive please!
david b
The converse, David's otherness is a luxury that technologically
--- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
concern himself with tax policy if he returned.
Instead, he would concern himself with individual
salvation.
In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
That the End of Days was at hand. It took more than
a century for them to stop
--- Damon Agretto
After all if Dog's going to destroy it all
anyway...
Replace a lot with some and I think you'd be
much closer to actuality...
I agree, but mainly in the context of the sub-meme of
American tolerant enlightenment pragmatism. Those who
reject this sub-meme often go the
Thanks for sending this.
My response is complex so please let me put it into
context.
1) The Left-vs-Right political axis is a piece of
arrant nonsense that I have inveighed against before.
If nothing else can kill this undead piece of
mind-limiting drivel, it should be the fact that the
damn
--- John D. Giorgis wrote the following message that
I am answering here. As with most right wing
rationalizations, it is a total pretzel of
self-fooling ditziness.
Fundamental: you cannot find one policy of this admin
is to advance the interests of 20,000 frat brothers,
including several
k.
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Avoiding Aliens, the much needed sequel to
Contacting Aliens.
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Highly classified note to all Terragen Field Agents:
If you ever need to confront an er over a serious
matter, and find youself
caught in a crowd situation with mixed
I can answer that -- not that David knows of.
It's good to keep in mind that a lot of Jewish
people have no family
records that are more than about 60 years old.
Thanks Nick. While it's true that most of my 3rd
4th cousins died in Europe and their family records
were destroyed, there
--- Julia,Hi!
Yeah this conf is run and pushed by Steve Mann, a prof
at U Toronto who is big in wearable computers and who
coined Sousveillance. I naturally approve in
theoryu... though I find some of the indignation and
noise a bit tedious.
Thrive all. ANd please do not ket John foist any of
some pictures of David and Sheldon Brown presenting
the exorarium concept at a recent CONTACT Conference:
http://www.driveonmars.com/events/contact2004/day2/page_02.htm
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Criticism of the Sauds would have hampered the war
in Iraq.
gah!
In addition, it may have hampered cooperation from
the Saudis in other areas.
What cooperation? This is so fatuous I want no furthe
part of the conversation.
db
Wasn't this something we wanted to
have public in
Only one question determines pocy in this admin.
Will this policy benefit 20,000 frat brothers
(including 1,000 Saudi sheiks)?
If the answer is yes, the policy is approved. If the
answer is no?
Well, there are a few items like Mars Landers...
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--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040324/D81GT0980.html
Gene Mutation Said Linked to Evolution
cool.
may be related to my neoteny argument.
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--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IOW, finally proof of the commonly held supposition
that the more you
exercise your jaw muscles by talking, the smaller
your brain is . . .
heh.
This also relates to my scientific article on human
neoteny... at http://www.davidbrin.com/
In fact during development there is
extensive neuronal die off (neurons compete for
various connections and when they don't get them
they are supposed to die).
For a description of this that PREDATES the science,
see an obscure novel called Earth
;-)
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In future experiments, Lahn will insert the human
ASPM gene into mice to
see what affect it has on brain development.
They escape from their cages, flee to a country that
has no extradition, and
sue the estate of Douglas Adams for slander.
Heh. I had heard of this. My best guess
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The Tytlal.
Such a short listing for the Tytlal.
wow... Now to establish a religion like Hubbard...
One problem a CULT of INDIVIDUALISM? How would
that work?
You are ALL individuals!
Yes, Master. We are!
uh... I'm not.
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--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Virginia's House of Delegates voted Monday to exempt
the legislature from
the open meetings provision of the state's Freedom
of Information Act.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26942-2004Feb9.html
House Republican leaders support
Where is the leftist plan for education other than
writing blank checks?
As opposed to the conservative plan of writing no
checks at all?
You miss the point. The staggering stupidity of the
statement is that the mainstream dems aren't proposing
hardly any new spending at all, other
Partial-Birth Abortion Ban
A non-medical inflammatory descripition of a rarely
used procedure done to
protect the woman.
It's worse than that. Almost all cases involve
anencephaly, a sysndrome in which it is not discovered
until very late... beyond the normal legal limit for
abortions...
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
None of which changes the central fact an iota.
FDR
got rid of Wallace and replaced him with Truman
for
those very reasons. NATO, the MArshall plan and
all
of that were PUSHED BY DEMOCRATS
--- Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's interesting, Damon. You are _literally_
the
first person with military experience I've
communciated with who thinks that Clark should be
allowed in the White House on anything other than
a public tour. Did you encounter him while you
Ooooh you guys caught me. It was late at night when I
scribbled the ROTC without mentioning it was High
School.
I was signed up for a 6 year stint as a nuke officer
aboard a sub... when many things happened to change
that life course. Nothing shameful, just things.
But really, what bullshit.
So many issues, so little time.
What boggles me is that political my side myopia
blinds folks to simple, basic pattern recognition.
Like that way immigration is handled. Both Bushes
totally reamed the Border Patrol, for example. Did
you know that? Under both administrations, border
patrolling
--- John D. Giorgis said
In fairness, after bashing the left-right dichotomy,
you then proceeded to
launch into a fairly one-sided rant against
conservatives and the
Republican Party, which most people idenify
synomously with the political
right.
You still refuse to even try to define
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:06 AM 1/30/2004 -0800 Davd Brin wrote:
Yet you defend people who
regularly spread genuine libel like RAPE and MURDER
at
the (then) president of the United States?
But Dr. Brin, aren't you engaging in exactly the
sort of left-right
And won the DFC, as I recall. He was also (still
is,
I believe) the youngest person ever to fly an
airplane
off a carrier, since he lied about his age in order
to
join the Navy.
And *I* am accused of dwelling on the past?
Kennedy was a war hero too. That didn't stop him from
being
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Containing communism
Dr. Brin, you think the GOP opposed this? You
remember the 1980s, when Ronald Reagan said Mr.
Gorbachev, tear down this wall. While your favored
party imitated Neville Chamberlain
--- Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
assigned to an army. Or better yet, that should
have
been assigned to the IRANIAN army.
I'm not so sure that would have been the most
successful or wisest choices. Iran is not exactly
popular amongst secular Arab leaders, being both
Shi'a
Which is what the right is now turning toward to the
left to a degree.
HimmlerCroft and His patriot Act I II. They are
cementing their own
power, and turning ever more angry, spiteful, and
hateful at people who
don't hold their dogmatic views.
I do not disagree about the
The Iranians would have followed your orders so
supinely?
One could have asked that about the unruly Tajiks,
Uzbeks etc in the Northern Alliance. The answer?
Make it the only logical choice in their own best
interesst. And yes, it woulda worked.
They had every motive.
In any event,
that were
diametrically opposite to historical fact,
demonstrating (very clearly (and though I like you)
ignorance ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND.
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This shows your utterly astounding ignorance.
Totally
without
--
Those who defend secrecy of ownership are not
defending enterprise capitalism, they are defending
feudal privilege.
I have no intention of jumping into this, but I must
say, that is one of the
more truthful statements I have yet witnessed,
squeezed out of someone in
times of
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These are NOT the same complaints as those voiced
by
Howard Dean. His pusilanimous antiwar position I
have
no patience for. Saddam had to go. But it is not
all
or nothing.
I feel rather the same way about
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There is not a chance that I will let this go. Your
claim at credentials is absurd. Again and let me
repeat AGAIN you avoid grappling even remotely with
the TOPICS about which I claimed you were ignorant.
Moreover you PROVED that ignorance by claiming that:
- containment of communism was
- Have you heard of Henry
Wallace? He was a fairly important Democrat - in
fact, he was Franklin Roosevelt's third Vice
President. He was so far to the left that his
publicly declared choices for Secretary of State and
Secretary of the Treasury were (we now know) paid
Soviet agents.
Heh.
Of course I think he misses the point. It is not so
much conservatism as it is romanticism... though
certainly the two have a major amount of psychological
overlap in their grouchy, look0backwards mentality.
If you care to, drop back at that guy's blog and refer
folks to
I should have known better. Sigh.
I said that left-vs.right is a cosmically stupid way
for immature political minds to identify themselves...
and you guys rush right ahead and blare me right and
me proud!
D'uh!
In 20 years not one person I know has given a cogent
explanation of what it's even
--- Gautam, now you are getting plain silly. Making
personal insults directed at me is hardly a response
to my long list of GOP sillinesses.
In fact, I had 4 years of ROTC training and would have
gone to Vietnam if I did not perceive that war as the
worst inanity, falling for a KGB trap of
Yeah, they seem a good idea.
Thrive!
db
--- Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We're thinking about where to send it OTHER than
the mainline SF
magazines.
Do any of you have any familiarity with the newer
e-zines that are
out there?
Do any seem hot and with-it?
--- Alberto,
You paint a frightening picture. Heinlein's heirs are
republishing his first (and awful!) novel this year.
Some artists burn their manuscripts!
;-)
davd (it was a mistake, now locked in stone!)
Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Davd [where has the _i_ gone?] Brin wrote:
Wow Trent!
Amazing thoughts. Just goes to show that You and the
gang are the smartest fans a guy could ask for.
Seriously cool stuff.
Alas, Life with 3 small kids (age 6,9,11) -- plus
many speeches and deadlines -- has left me with less
time for writing and a need to focus. This is
All way-cool observations!
Kurosawa Japanese... har!
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Thanks!
Passed it on.
db
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Found this at RPG.net:
http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9924.phtml
There's even a little discussion on the books
themselves attached to it. Thought some of you
might be interested.
Jim
Still think DB rules for
Thanks Jon...
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Life Eaters unavailable?
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:17:57 -0800
Hi folks. Just dropping by to ask a favor. I
--- Jim Sharkey
It seems to me that the most important trait to DB's
protagonists is stubbornness.
Interesting! I certainly say so, explicitly, about
the character in KILN PEOPLE. And yet, I hardly
envision it as an unwillingness to contemplate changes
in tactics. I thought Maia changed
--- Julia wrote:
There's a feminist bookstore in Austin; last time I
was in there, a
couple of years ago, they had a few shelves of SF,
most of it written by
women; of the few books written by men they had,
_Glory Season_ was
among them.
Terrific! The core SF feminists in the Tiptree
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Davd Brin wrote:
Thanks... and thank Alberto for me.
Other people also wrote comments, but they
forgot to put the Brin: in the subject line O:-)
Were any of them useful? The mistake was mine, I
suppose, in the first place.
d
--- Julia
thanks. It's only a minor irritation so I'll just
wait till Nick gets back.
thrive!
david b
Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
As for any fan with unbiased knowledge - see
Allen
Barra's article on Slate. Barra is a professional
sportswriter who
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