On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For some reason, I'm reminded
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote:
Was there a memo proclaiming Marvin Long to be a judge of someone's
character? Or that he is an authority on what a quality journalist is?
Maybe his realm is just embarrassments.
A judge of Geraldo's personal character? Of course not. Of his career
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
When did Geraldo become a veteran reporter and cease to be a national
embarassment?
Um, when he started working for Fox News?
Julia
Take That However You Like Maru
I will, think you.
Summer grass - all that | Marvin Long
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
My home was shot last night.
Not once.
Three times.
And my car.
And.. my FUCKING CAT was killed.
You have my deepest sympathy.
humor aside=I can say this 'cause I'm a native Texan
Goldamm, son, looks like you've got an infestation of Texans. Best
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, The Fool wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20030331/people_nm/iraq_
usa_geraldo_dc_1
US Military Moves Reporter Geraldo Rivera from Iraq
1 hour, 52 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Veteran reporter Geraldo Rivera, a correspondent
When did
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Its good to see you again, but this is really strange
I have been thinking about you Joshua for about 3 or 4 days, wondering what
was up with you and how you and your family was doing.
And then you pop up on the list again.
Its an
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote:
When did Geraldo become a veteran reporter and cease to be a national
embarassment?
Marvin Long
Maybe when fourteen neighbors died September 11, 2001. Oh wait, that would
mean a journalist can have ideals.
Was there a memo establishing that
Just goes to show a watched pot never jacks.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
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No need to ship the whole thing back to France; just replace the torch
with a Colt .45.
Marvin Long
Gun or malt liquor, it works either way Maru
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
I'm pregnant again.
Holy #*!! It's an epidemic of sperm poisoning!!
Um, congratulations!
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Holy #*!! It's an epidemic of sperm poisoning!!
Sperm poisoning followed by progesterone poisoning. I don't mind the
first, but the second, well, the second is miserable at times. (But I'm
getting over it. Then we get into the whole endorphin
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Oh, I thought that that was what Dan and I were here for, as far as he was
concerned. ;) (At least, the torture part. Damn, but I hate it that my
body is so sensitive when there's someone not quite 2 wanting to crawl all
over it)
You're just
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Matthew and Julie Bos wrote:
Here name is:
Anneka Marie Bos
Congratulations!
But you knowDarth Bos is really tempting right about now...
Marvin Long
Doh! Sucker for temptation Maru
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Bryon Daly wrote:
I just came across this article that explores Bush's ineffective diplomacy and
the reasons behind it, and had been debating whether to post it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-17-anti-diplomacy-usat_x.htm
Thanks. Here's another
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, William T Goodall wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 06:36 am, The Fool wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/15/perspiration.reut/index.html
Study: Male sweat brightens women's moods
So perhaps the declining birth rate in the developed world is due to
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
say) to listen more than talk. And I think it does me good to just
listen to what you and Gautam and John G., for instance, have to say.
Not that you meant it that way, but it struck me as funny that you
grouped me in with JDG politically. I
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
At 18:24 16-03-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote:
Er, John, I think you need to read up on how a democracy works. In a
democracy, decisions are not made by the populace but by the politicians
that were elected by the populace.
No, that is
I thought the world's first brain prosthesis was the wife.
Marvin Long
Run away! Maru
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Why thank you Marvin. I'm not posting right now
(except for this) I did 110+ hours at the office last
week (including 2:00am Saturday, which _sucked_, let
me tell you) and would be looking at the same this
week, except I leave for Denmark on
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, John Garcia wrote:
Just how did the authorities prosecute those thugs trussed up by
Spiderman? IIRC, Spiderman would come up on some hood burning and
pillaging, beat him up and leave him snared in a web attached to a lamp
post. The cops would show up, Spiderman would
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
What, btw, do you _want_ Marvin? If it goes well,
that's bad. But if it goes poorly, that's bad.
Sorry, that's my kneejerk pessimism again.
If we
don't do this, Saddam eventually gets nuclear weapons.
If we do do this, there's no outcome
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
I thought The Big Time wasn't the best I'd ever read, but it was
entertaining, at least.
It's been a long time since I read The Big Time, but remember enjoying it.
Then, I love just about anything by Fritz Leiber. He's a genre stylist
who writes
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Only the rodeo. Only around the time of SXSW in
Austin.
Sheesh.
(That was the most unbelievable detail of the story.
The rest I could see
all too easily.)
Julia
I think you're going to have to explain that for the
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Actually, from the article, I gathered it was a rodeo in Houston. If
you're *really* wanting to get away from SXSW and there's a rodeo in
Houston, that would be a better bet than going to the rodeo here in
Austin.
Oh. Guess I'm confused, then.
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
First of all, I'm not convinced that Hussein has the ability to use
massive amounts of anything against the US. I don't doubt that he
has stockpiles of the stuff, but that's not the same as being able
to deploy them in any significant way against
Someone said:
Someone on another mailing list told me that prior to one of
the World Wars, it had been called German toast. I have
done no research to verify; does anyone here know? And I
think my response was, Why don't we just call it 'European toast'?
Euro-toast!
Marvin Long
If you're a customer of SBC's dsl service, you might be interested in
this. If not, you might be interested anyway just for the oh jeez
factor.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/14/BU35890.DTL
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik:
I was thinking along the lines of terrorists in the country who managed
to pick up the materials from an incoming cargo container. But I don't
know enough details about whether that would be possible. Do you?
How much Tom Clancy have you
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote:
At 02:42 PM 3/14/2003 -0600, Julia wrote:
Can you imagine what would have happened to the US computer industry, at
least short-term, if someone had successfully deployed such a biological
weapon at COMDEX during the fat years of the late 1990s?
The
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 01:00 AM 3/5/2003 -0600 Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Saddam is as guilty as sin but if containment can keep him as
relatively weak as he is now, then perpetuating that state of affairs is
the lesser evil
Two questions for you Marvin:
1) Do you
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Well, apparently it *is* the size of your bullfrog that matters.
:)
Jon
snip
Chief zoologist Vitezslav Honsa added: We even went as far as getting a
tape for them with frog sounds on it so they could make love.
No Barry White? No Ohio Players?
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
Not to burst your balloon, but rabid pcp-crazed incontinent baboons
fighting over a days-dead gopher carcass look better than most cable
TV discussions, especially the ones on Fox News.
Shit! That bastard on S. Congress sold me some bad PC...
Uh,
Could the problem be the head-bob effect so common in 1st-person
shooters? Some games have the option to turn this off so that you get a
smoother motion. I've heard some say that this particular effect makes
them feel seasick.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
It seems to me that a Mall is private property, and thus they have a right
to avoid the creation of confrontation on their property.
I suppose that he can argue that a Mall is essentially a created public
forum. but that argument seems like a
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Of course, the _actual criminal complaint_ (as opposed
to the propaganda from activists) tells a slightly
different story:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/crossgates1.html
Interesting - there's a dispute of fact, it seems. The complaint
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Interesting - there's a dispute of fact, it seems. The complaint suggests
the two men were actively stopping other shoppers. In none of the news
stories I've read, however, do the mall cops actually repeat
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
The Supreme Court should be one of them. There's no
serious question that _even if_ all they were doing
was wearing the shirt, the mall had a right to ask
them to leave, and arrest them for trespassing if they
did. See Instapundit's commentary, for
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Out of curiosity, what if a group of anti-abortionists were wearing shirts
with anti-abortion slogans on it and coming to the mall every day to talk
to shoppers. No accosting, just asking people if they think that people
have a right to kill their own
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Reductio ad absurdum. Nobody is claiming that here.
The reference to brownshirt alludes to that, I think.
Self-appointed brownshirt - please get the whole quote. Which precludes
an accusation of government wrongdoing, but which, yes, certainly
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Reading through the complaint, I think what they couldn't stand is a heated
argument in the mall. And, that's exactly what the person arrested was
interested in. I agree that he probably didn't start the arguement, but
was happy when it started.
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Bryon Daly wrote:
How can we spend all that money on the space program when
there's all those homeless, starving people, etc. (paraphrased)
This is frustrating. I've found you can apply that argument against
many, many actions the govenment does. How do you defend
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Ahh, GOTO. I remember what a big deal it was when they installed a new
version of BASIC at the high school I was attending at the time, and it had
two brand new commands (new for us, anyway); GOSUB and RETURN. The
programming teachers
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Russell Chapman wrote:
Either we support his removal, or we support his continuing reign - we
can't just say Oh, if only there was another way
The third possibility is that one thinks Saddam doesn't deserve to be
planet Earth's - or even the USA's - priority number one.
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote:
See, that's the problem. To paraphrase Dennis Miller, if some ensign can turn on a
switch, crack open a Romulan ale, and have Seven of Nine do the naked mambo on his
johnson, why the heck would he ever do any work? :-)
So the really big question
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Interesting! I never saw many of the animated episodes, though I read a
number of the James Blish short stories based on them.
IIRC, Alan Dean Foster did the books based on TAS, while Blish adapted the
TOS episodes, and wrote one original
Bill Moyers on Patriotism and the American Flag
I wore my flag tonight. First time. Until now I haven't thought it
necessary to display a little metallic icon of patriotism for everyone to
see. It was enough to vote, pay my taxes, perform my civic duties, speak
my mind, and do my best to
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Richard Baker wrote:
It must be nice to live in a country like the US that can have two
seemingly reasonably competent parties at the same time...
Yeah. Let us know when you find one, will you? :-)
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft,
That's pretty good! I wonder how many actors besides Shatner went
commando, though In those flimsy tight pants, underwear probably
would have shown through in a manner very obvious to the actors if not to
the average TV viewer of the day.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney,
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Marvin wrote:
Ok, I just had to check...
http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html
which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3
pages that
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I still have a die-cast
TOS Enterprise that shoots little yellow round photon torpedos and has a
detachable shuttle. I bought it from Sears
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes.
Marvin Long
Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck
there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :)
Interesting! I never saw many of the animated episodes, though
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that.
Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long
enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck.
16+ years$#!*,
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
You can still feel old, though. Remember piling into one Jester dorm room
to watch it with a zillion other geeks? :)
Ah, memories. A dozen plus people chanting macho macho Picard (or
whoever's in a fight at that moment, except Worf, who despite
A question about Roddenberry the the third season of TOS -- did he betray
his fans?
Being iced in today and having a day away from work, I took the
opportunity to read Shatner's _Star Trek Memories_, which has been
gathering dust for about a year on a bookshelf. His account of the
fan-based
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Bryon Daly wrote:
TNG featured more personal character growth than TOS did (which isn't saying
much, really), but not as much as it should/could have had. For every The Inner
Light episode (IMHO the single best trek episode ever), there were 10 episodes
something like
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
TOS is embedded in the collective consciousness in a way TNG can never even
aspire to be. I remember working as IT in San Juan's Public Works Dept. I
used to have ERTL's NCC1701-A model
Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote:
You don't remember Salvor Hardin, the mayor who said Never let your sense
of morals get in the way of doing what's right, Violence is the last
refuge of the incompetent and many other sayings, and is one of the coolest
politicians in science
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
However, and someone out there must agree with me, *something* happened with
the Trek franchise after the end of TNG and shortly after Generations was
released. If I must find hard evidence of this claim, I can mention that
the popularity of
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Steve Sloan II wrote:
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Patriotism is the last refuge of the incompetent.
--Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the *scoundrel.* (?)
I'm guessing that Mark Twain (?) paraphrased
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Are you old enough to remember the US Bicentennial?
I'll take a red, white, and blue _Enterprise_ over a red, white, and blue
toilet seat or a red, white, and blue coffin any day . . .
Mm. I remember visiting a train...Freedom Train or
The solution, of course, is to actually go somewhere and listen to real
live musicians who don't owe their souls to David Geffen with other real
live people who have decided, like you, that pop radio sucks. (Easier
said than done, depending on where you live, but still.) It won't fix
radio
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
As was mine. If you'll look carefully at my rant, you'll notice that I
tried hard to be equally hard on extremists on both sides of the issue.
Mm hm. It did seem like a sincerely asked question, though.
liberal version NRA - call it the
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Marvin is a robot
Alberto Monteiro
I prefer the term industrial mandroid, thank you.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote:
It's interesting to see how two different people can like
the same things for different and sometimes contradictory
reasons. I think your analysis is really very good, but
you obviously look at ST:TOS and ST:TNG differently than
I, and that's
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Khan is Ahab, Kirk is the whale.
C'mon, Shatner wasn't THAT big. :-)
Scotty, perhaps?
ducking
Unlike Scotty
Marvin Long
Gratuitous pratfall Maru
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, The Fool wrote:
LOL! I've read Moby Dick twice, sir, and STII is no Moby Dick. :-)
It
quotes Moby Dick, true. Plot by Ian Fleming, with additional dialogue
by
Dickens and Melville.
Khan is Ahab, Kirk is the whale.
C'mon, Shatner wasn't THAT big. :-)
Khan
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
True. ST2 is Nick Meyer's interpretation of Star Trek. Remember that as
good as ST:TMP was, it didn't really do as well as the studio expected at
the box office. Therefore, they went along with Harve Bennet's view of
episodic television's
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote:
L3?!? 9K?!?
It's just a TV show!
Get a life, people!
Move out of your parent's basements!
Ha! I resemble that remark! :-)
Marvin Long
Best SNL Ever Maru
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote:
L3?!? 9K?!?
It's just a TV show!
Get a life, people!
Move out of your parent's basements!
Ha! I resemble that remark! :-)
PS - Would you prefer another 9k about Iraq? ;-
Marvin Long
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Take a look at any pre-DVD version of the movie. When the Enterprise leaves
drydock the first time, look at the lower left hand corner of the screen
(your left hand). You see the clamp as it gently moves the model forward. I
always thought
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, The Fool wrote:
STII is..Moby Dick.
LOL! I've read Moby Dick twice, sir, and STII is no Moby Dick. :-) It
quotes Moby Dick, true. Plot by Ian Fleming, with additional dialogue by
Dickens and Melville.
What killed it was that it was never edited.
I was speaking
What the Cheney White House really wants out of Iraq
For the morally flexible oilman and his cronies, it's all about money.
Arianna Huffington, Feb. 19, Salon.com
Boys, boys, you're all right. Sure, it's Daddy, oil, and imperialism, not
to mention a messianic sense of righteous purpose, a
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, G. D. Akin wrote:
Amercian Gods . . . 2002 Hugo winner and probably even odds on taking
home the Nebula in April as well. I thought it was different, imaginative,
but not anything to write home about or recommend to anyone.
A little shy of the halfway point, I'm really
My wife found this nifty web site about, um, pussy control. So to speak.
http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
Marvin Long
Pussycat Maru
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:
G. D. Akin wrote:
I have two reasons for you to finish Moving Mars.
1. It is a good book, a good story. I will admit, it started off slowly,
but persistence pays off.
I enjoyed it very much as well. I just finished Blood Music and would
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, G. D. Akin wrote:
Both Blood Music and Forge of God were enjoyable reads. Blood Music
is a very chilling tale of biology gone wrong. Forge of God is just as
chilling in an end-of-the-world tale--of which I am a sucker for (my
all-time favorite is Lucifer's Hammer by
On Mars books: I can't seem to get past the student uprising part at the
beginning of Bear's _Moving Mars_. Should I?
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
I read that one through without skimming -- I enjoyed it. When you say
you can't seem to get past do you mean you are bored or offended?
Bored. I couldn't bring myself to believe in the character expressed by
the young woman's POV. Like a 40 year old
I've read some positive reviews and some negative reviews. The important
question, of course, is: how is Jennifer Garner's kung fu? Does it look
good or does it look like the standard Hollywood bimbette-in-leather-pants
Fu?
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Gary L. Nunn wrote:
She is good, but then again she is good at kicking ass on Alias. I would
have been surprised if her action scenes were not good.
That sounds promising in a B movie kind of way. Does she avoid the sin of
twirling her sai like they're batons?
Marvin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Gary L. Nunn wrote:
While Rob is away taking the big plunge tomorrow (you still have time to
run dude!) , I told him that I
would keep the list stirred up until he gets back on Sunday. So I would
like to suggest that we talk about non controversial and non polarizing
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote:
Okay maybe there was a decline. The sitcoms were a reflection of society.
The country was nesting, parents and kids interacting in the home. Same as
AitF with younger kids, except now the kids were playing the Archie Role.
With Cheers of course being
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote:
I still occasionally rack up my Battlefield Band Home
Is Where The Van Is IIRC, Glascow Police Pipe Band
(1970?) and the 1972 Military Tatoo albums, scratches
an' au'. At a Celtic Fest I just happened across
south of Portland OR, I heard a neat
Thank you very, very much for all you do. But what's with the meter-long
description of the list that keeps popping up in the reply-to field?
Seems like overkill, maybe.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
Wank, wank, wank...oh shit, I'm still at work!
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote:
YAY Congratulations!!!
I'm gonna be annoying and pass on a set of totally unsolicited advice that
helped me get through my wedding. Feel free to put it in the circular file
if you like. :)
1) The day is about you. Put people to work. If
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57781-2003Feb11.html
excerpts:
Pressed for an idea of how long a military occupation would last before
Iraqis could take back the government of their country, his colleague from
the State Department, Marc Grossman, said he would guess two years.
http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/02/11/iraq_plans/index.html
Marvin Long
ROU Parallax view?
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Matt Grimaldi wrote:
NPR _has_ and _does_ mention that the UN inspectors
have been unable to interview any scientists alone,
(and reporting the big news when they finally get *one*
scientist to agree to be interviewed alone)
as well as how any reporters out and about with
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Herbie
Progenitors
Now I understand.
I pray for you and yours Doc.
And will keep you in my thoughts.
It took me some Googling to find, but...my goodness! Condolences and
blessings for you and your family.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush,
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/08/opinion/08KELL.html
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
I consider the Bush administration a bunch of wealthy elitists who lived
a charmed life, but I don't judge them on that but rather on what they
do. Maybe the Iraqi people would do the same?
Anything's possible, I suppose. I'm not sure the parallel is
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote:
But just in case I suggest that everyone begin having sex as often as
possible in order to make the list a funnier place filled with happier
people!
G
Excellent idea! Just remember to lay a towel on the carpet before you
break out the candle
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
Preemptive conquest and
nation-building looks a lot like colonialism to a lot of people,
especially the conquered.
What evidence do you have of this? Does your statement here match what
we know about the reactions of the people of
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote:
re: white man's burden
I see this as a bitter diatribe against imperialism and not so much as a
ralling cry for colonialism.
Of course I am not a Kipling expert and my interpretation is only informed
by my own experience writing poetry. I find the
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
As far as I can tell you're so caught up in the rush
of condemning what they did that you're kind of
missing what was really going on. No one's defending
the Empire as an altruistic endeavor. The extent to
which it _was_ conducted in a not-so-bad
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
Why would post-war Iraq be the first Iraqi republic? Iraq is *already* a
republic.
In name only.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Well, Bush's rhetoric is partly aimed at an American
audience, and I think largely reflects his own
feelings. Post-colonial powers may understand that.
But the nations who used to be colonial powers will
laugh at that because the cynicism of Old
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
He definitely felt it was the right thing to do.
Kipling was the poet of Empire. Kipling's
Recessional, though (probably my favorite Kipling
poem) was a warning against Imperial hubris - it's
probably the one poem every American should be
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