Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-14 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:21 PM Wednesday 2/13/2008, Deborah Harrell wrote: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We Methodists only have the expression Dry as a Methodist picnic to stereotype us. I still grin at the joke (paraphrased): When asked to bring something that expressed their faith to Show and

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We Methodists only have the expression Dry as a Methodist picnic to stereotype us. I still grin at the joke (paraphrased): When asked to bring something that expressed their faith to Show and Tell, thus spake the children- Mary: I'm Catholic, and this

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
What Anonymous hath wrought: Protests next Sunday in at least 170 cities worldwide with over 300,000 people participating. And a severe shortage of Guy Fawkes masks. xponent Minimums Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 29 Jan 2008, at 01:57, Doug Pensinger wrote: Dave wrote: Yes, it's amazing how a practice of your Church of roughly 100 years ago which, by some accounts, was not all that widely practiced, and by no means _the_ defining characteristic of the Church) is all that most people seem to

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-02 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:08 PM Friday 2/1/2008, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 2/1/08, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition! http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 My favorite may be Bruce Schneier once decrypted a box of AlphaBits. So what did it say in

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-01 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: Re: CoS in the news On 28 Jan 2008, at 03:47, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-01 Thread William T Goodall
On 1 Feb 2008, at 03:11, Robert Seeberger wrote: Same tactics as the Jesuits, right? LULZG Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Those who can make you believe

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-01 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Feb 2008, at 03:11, Robert Seeberger wrote: Same tactics as the Jesuits, right? LULZG Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition! http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 (I love just

Re: CoS in the news

2008-02-01 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 2/1/08, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition! http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 My favorite may be Bruce Schneier once decrypted a box of AlphaBits. And Schneier's book, _Secrets and Lies: Digital Security in a Networked World_ is

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Dave wrote: Yes, it's amazing how a practice of your Church of roughly 100 years ago which, by some accounts, was not all that widely practiced, and by no means _the_ defining characteristic of the Church) is all that most people seem to

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-29 Thread William T Goodall
On 28 Jan 2008, at 03:47, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] How could a law protect these genuine religions and also ban the original Scientologists at the same time? Easily! You take away the COSI's tax-exempt status away and

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:01 PM, pencimen wrote: Dave wrote: Congratulations! That's practically like being a grown-up! I'm sorry? Care to explain that last remark? Celebrating 30 years of marriage represents an achievement of maturity. I was employing a kind of humorous understatement. Dave

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-29 Thread pencimen
Dave wrote: Congratulations! That's practically like being a grown-up! I'm sorry? Care to explain that last remark? Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Russell Chapman
Julia Thompson wrote: 1) Whacked my toe yesterday morning, hurt like the dickens, wasn't sure I should try to get X-rays or anything (and I didn't want to, truth be told), so I asked a mailing list and the consensus was what I wrote above. Decided not to go, toe still hurts, but not as

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:57 AM Monday 1/28/2008, Russell Chapman wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: 1) Whacked my toe yesterday morning, hurt like the dickens, wasn't sure I should try to get X-rays or anything (and I didn't want to, truth be told), so I asked a mailing list and the consensus was what I wrote

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Monday 1/28/2008, Russell Chapman wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: 1) Whacked my toe yesterday morning, hurt like the dickens, wasn't sure I should try to get X-rays or anything (and I didn't want to, truth be told), so I asked a

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 10:59 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) *At most* one religion can be true, yet there are thousands of religions. Not necessarily true. See _Job: A Comedy of Justice_, _Stranger in a Strange Land_, or

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:20 PM Monday 1/28/2008, Dave Land wrote: [snip] Then again, I am at the far-liberal end of Christianity, to the point that there are probably plenty who call themselves Christians who, learning what I believe, would no longer count me among their number. Dave At least they don't ask

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Jan 28, 2008 12:03 PM, Mauro Diotallevi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 10:59 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) *At most* one religion can be true, yet there are thousands of religions. Not necessarily true. See _Job: A Comedy of Justice_, _Stranger in a

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Jan 27, 2008 10:59 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) *At most* one religion can be true, yet there are thousands of religions. Not necessarily true. See _Job: A Comedy of Justice_, _Stranger in a Strange Land_, or other Heinlein (or many other authors) for SFnal examples of

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 12:20 PM Monday 1/28/2008, Dave Land wrote: Then again, I am at the far-liberal end of Christianity, to the point that there are probably plenty who call themselves Christians who, learning what I believe, would no longer count me

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Dave Land wrote: On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 12:20 PM Monday 1/28/2008, Dave Land wrote: Then again, I am at the far-liberal end of Christianity, to the point that there are probably plenty who call themselves Christians who, learning

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave wrote: Yes, it's amazing how a practice of your Church of roughly 100 years ago which, by some accounts, was not all that widely practiced, and by no means _the_ defining characteristic of the Church) is all that most people seem to know about. To some extent, you can thank HBO's Big

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:20 PM Saturday 1/26/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: Any mailing list that you can shoot a quick, Hey, this happened, should I go to the ER? to and get constructive answers is probably going to have at least a minimal health benefit. Also

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: Julia wrote: (And, the concensus as to whether or not to go to the ER with a potential broken toe is, If you want prescription painkillers, sure, but there's not a whole heck of a lot they'll actually *do* for you. So, I'm going to wait until

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
On 27 Jan 2008, at 03:28, Robert Seeberger wrote: On 1/26/2008 8:47:30 PM, William T Goodall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 02:27, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just ban all religions. That would solve the

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: CoS in the news On 27 Jan 2008, at 03:28, Robert Seeberger wrote: On 1/26/2008 8:47:30 PM, William T

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
On 27 Jan 2008, at 20:37, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: CoS in the news On 27 Jan 2008, at 03:28, Robert

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, William T Goodall wrote: Let's suppose the Scientologists have a schism. Are they OK now because the different branches no longer agree? If the Scientologists have a schism, each side's lawyers will be so busy suing the other side that it'll all collapse sooner rather

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
On 27 Jan 2008, at 21:49, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, William T Goodall wrote: Let's suppose the Scientologists have a schism. Are they OK now because the different branches no longer agree? If the Scientologists have a schism, each side's lawyers will be so busy

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 21:49, Julia Thompson wrote: If the Scientologists have a schism, each side's lawyers will be so busy suing the other side that it'll all collapse sooner rather than later, and that will be the end of that. Or they could be like the Sunni and

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
On 28 Jan 2008, at 01:19, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 21:49, Julia Thompson wrote: If the Scientologists have a schism, each side's lawyers will be so busy suing the other side that it'll all collapse sooner rather than later, and that will be the end of

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
On 28 Jan 2008, at 01:19, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 21:49, Julia Thompson wrote: If the Scientologists have a schism, each side's lawyers will be so busy suing the other side that it'll all collapse sooner rather than later, and that will be the end of

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: Re: CoS in the news On 28 Jan 2008, at 01:19, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 21

RE: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Curtis Burisch
Better idea - remove tax exemptions and other special benefits for religions and quasi-religious organistions, with the exception of charitable ventures (which must be purely charitable subsidiaries of or wholly separate ventures). And only those over twenty-one should be allowed access to

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:31 PM Friday 1/25/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: What's wrong with a lapdancer drinking Scotch? Julia Spilling it? Especially if it's on the rocks? You have a point there. :) Julia

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Curtis Burisch wrote: Better idea - remove tax exemptions and other special benefits for religions and quasi-religious organistions, with the exception of charitable ventures (which must be purely charitable subsidiaries of or wholly separate ventures). And

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Re: CoS in the news On 25 Jan 2008, at 23:18, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Curtis Burisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion' brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: RE: CoS in the news Curtis Someone tell me what the story is with Maru? I really ned to put

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Curtis Burisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion' brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: RE: CoS in the news Curtis Someone tell me what

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread William T Goodall
On 27 Jan 2008, at 02:27, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just ban all religions. That would solve the problem. That might be a reasonable response if Scientology were in fact a religion. What makes you think that it isn't?

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: snip So while the data suggest some health benefits from social engagement, they are anything but a ringing endorsement of the health benefits of religion or religious faith, per se. It would make sense to me that individuals with some sort of social support group might have

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread William T Goodall
On 27 Jan 2008, at 01:43, Dave Land wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Curtis Burisch wrote: Better idea - remove tax exemptions and other special benefits for religions and quasi-religious organistions, with the exception of charitable ventures (which must be purely charitable

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: snip So while the data suggest some health benefits from social engagement, they are anything but a ringing endorsement of the health benefits of religion or religious faith, per se. It would make sense to me that individuals

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
On 1/26/2008 8:47:30 PM, William T Goodall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 02:27, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just ban all religions. That would solve the problem. That might be a reasonable response

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread William T Goodall
On 27 Jan 2008, at 03:28, Robert Seeberger wrote: On 1/26/2008 8:47:30 PM, William T Goodall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 27 Jan 2008, at 02:27, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just ban all religions. That would solve the

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:20 PM Saturday 1/26/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: snip So while the data suggest some health benefits from social engagement, they are anything but a ringing endorsement of the health benefits of religion or religious

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:24 AM Saturday 1/26/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:31 PM Friday 1/25/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: What's wrong with a lapdancer drinking Scotch? Julia Spilling it? Especially if it's on the rocks? You have a point

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: (And, the concensus as to whether or not to go to the ER with a potential broken toe is, If you want prescription painkillers, sure, but there's not a whole heck of a lot they'll actually *do* for you. So, I'm going to wait until Monday and see how bad it is then, and if it's

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-25 Thread William T Goodall
On 26 Jan 2008, at 01:32, Charlie Bell wrote: On 26/01/2008, at 12:01 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Just ban all religions. That would solve the problem. Because that's worked so well in the USSR and Communist China. Better idea - remove tax exemptions and other special benefits for

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-25 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 26 Jan 2008, at 01:32, Charlie Bell wrote: On 26/01/2008, at 12:01 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Just ban all religions. That would solve the problem. Because that's worked so well in the USSR and Communist China. Better idea - remove

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:31 PM Friday 1/25/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: What's wrong with a lapdancer drinking Scotch? Julia Spilling it? Especially if it's on the rocks? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-25 Thread William T Goodall
On 25 Jan 2008, at 23:18, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: RE: CoS in the news Because I love you guys, I give you the CS orientation video: http

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: RE: CoS in the news Because I love you guys, I give you the CS orientation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtUDcm3bBw http://www.youtube.com

Re: CoS in the news

2008-01-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/01/2008, at 12:01 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Just ban all religions. That would solve the problem. Because that's worked so well in the USSR and Communist China. Better idea - remove tax exemptions and other special benefits for religions and quasi-religious organistions, with the

RE: CoS in the news

2008-01-24 Thread Jim Sharkey
Because I love you guys, I give you the CS orientation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtUDcm3bBw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfiZehbTAxU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7W9Duq145Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSqzl9QYTQ It's pretty funny stuff. Jim