Need help searching for files in a directory
I'm trying to figure out how to go about searching through a directory of mp3 files I have in a shared hosting environment so no verity. The search criteria would be passed via a form variable, so, I'm wondering if it's possible to use cfdirectory list and maybe dump the results into an array, then do loop through the array using listfindnocase on it to find the specific file?? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated, I've goggled it to death only to run into the verity avenue, which I can do locally, but alas, not in my shared hosting scenario. Thanks!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269278 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Need help searching for files in a directory
What are your search criteria? Filename, ID3? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Bob Imperial To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri Feb 09 08:58:00 2007 Subject: Need help searching for files in a directory I'm trying to figure out how to go about searching through a directory of mp3 files I have in a shared hosting environment so no verity. The search criteria would be passed via a form variable, so, I'm wondering if it's possible to use cfdirectory list and maybe dump the results into an array, then do loop through the array using listfindnocase on it to find the specific file?? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated, I've goggled it to death only to run into the verity avenue, which I can do locally, but alas, not in my shared hosting scenario. Thanks!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Weird cfform.js problem
Hi,
I recently changed servers to a windows 2003, IIS 6 and CF MX7. Since doing
this I've been having problems with a few different things, one in particular
is the coldfusion form validation
I have this simple example:
html
head
titleTest form/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
/head
body
cfform name=test
cfinput type=radio name=bookingcode value=testresult id=bookingcode1
required=yes message=You must select your days of attendance checked=yes
/label for=bookingcode1asdf/label
input type=submit name=submit value=submit
/cfform
/body
/html
Which produces this code:
html
head
titleTest form/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
script type=text/javascript src=/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js/script
script type=text/javascript src=/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js/script
script type=text/javascript
!--
function _CF_checktest(_CF_this)
{
//reset on submit
_CF_error_exists = false;
_CF_error_messages = new Array();
_CF_error_fields = new Object();
_CF_FirstErrorField = null;
//form element bookingcode required check
if( !_CF_hasValue(_CF_this['bookingcode'], RADIO, false ) )
{
_CF_onError(_CF_this, bookingcode, _CF_this['bookingcode'].value,
You must select your days of attendance);
_CF_error_exists = true;
}
//display error messages and return success
if( _CF_error_exists )
{
if( _CF_error_messages.length 0 )
{
// show alert() message
_CF_onErrorAlert(_CF_error_messages);
// set focus to first form error, if the field supports js
focus().
if( _CF_this[_CF_FirstErrorField].type == text )
{ _CF_this[_CF_FirstErrorField].focus(); }
}
return false;
}else {
return true;
}
}
//--
/script
/head
body
form name=test action=/test6.cfm method=post onsubmit=return
_CF_checktest(this)
input name=bookingcode type=radio value=testresult checked=checked
id=bookingcode1 /label for=bookingcode1asdf/label
input type=submit name=submit value=submit
/form
/body
/html
However, even though the checkbox is checked, the javascript alert is set off
and the form isn't submitted.
Any ideas why this is happening?
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Re: Need help searching for files in a directory
Well since you qould try to use verity and verity does not index mp3 files for their content, I assume you are just looking for a filename. So what you can do is (assuming you have cfmx7): cfdirectory action=LIST directory=D:\multimedia name=qryResult filter=*.mp3 recurse=Yes cfquery name=getFile dbtype=query Select * from qryResult Where name Like '%Alanis%' /cfquery cfdump var=#getFile# Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie unserer Mailingliste bei: deutsch: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ Bob Imperial schrieb: I'm trying to figure out how to go about searching through a directory of mp3 files I have in a shared hosting environment so no verity. The search criteria would be passed via a form variable, so, I'm wondering if it's possible to use cfdirectory list and maybe dump the results into an array, then do loop through the array using listfindnocase on it to find the specific file?? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated, I've goggled it to death only to run into the verity avenue, which I can do locally, but alas, not in my shared hosting scenario. Thanks!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?
I disagree with this in this market. Railo could go open-source, but it wouldn't make much difference apart from perception. This community (I am sorry if I offend anybody) doesn't have the number of people that can program in Java yet. I have had a few people offer to help with CFEclipse (which is open source and free) but many people add If I only knew more Java Now, you have a CFML engine, written in Java, how many people are going to jump on it to fix it? From the CF community? Just an observation. MD On 7 Feb 2007, at 14:26, Jim Wright wrote: Rick Root wrote: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting... The combination of a open source shared hosting optimized CF runtime is where I see some possibilities. Perhaps if one of the big hosting companies (HMS or GoDaddy seem like likely candidates), would put some resources into developing such a beast, it might have a chance. I'm not sure the community at large has enough momentum to develop a general purpose alternative to CF or BD. It seems like another CF product, be it commercial or open source, Railo or Smith, would need to fill some niche...and being shared hosting optimized would probably be the most likely candidate. I believe Railo has a good start in this area...not sure about Smith. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
IIS SMTP Service Help
I am sending mail from CF to the IIS SMTP service but it is all getting stuck in the IIS Queue folder, does anyone have any idea why the server may not be sending it? -- James Smith - IT Director uWish Ltd - http://www.uWish.co.uk ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269283 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?
Mark, you are absolutely right. That was my point. The only thing that's different when going open source is the fact that it is open source. And of course intersted competitors could go and peek in our code. A lot of projects who went open source were no longer payed attention to. And we don't want this to happen to Railo. In the Java world nobody cares about CF. So why should a really good programmer dig into our code for error checking etc. Gert Mark Drew schrieb: I disagree with this in this market. Railo could go open-source, but it wouldn't make much difference apart from perception. This community (I am sorry if I offend anybody) doesn't have the number of people that can program in Java yet. I have had a few people offer to help with CFEclipse (which is open source and free) but many people add If I only knew more Java Now, you have a CFML engine, written in Java, how many people are going to jump on it to fix it? From the CF community? Just an observation. MD On 7 Feb 2007, at 14:26, Jim Wright wrote: Rick Root wrote: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting... The combination of a open source shared hosting optimized CF runtime is where I see some possibilities. Perhaps if one of the big hosting companies (HMS or GoDaddy seem like likely candidates), would put some resources into developing such a beast, it might have a chance. I'm not sure the community at large has enough momentum to develop a general purpose alternative to CF or BD. It seems like another CF product, be it commercial or open source, Railo or Smith, would need to fill some niche...and being shared hosting optimized would probably be the most likely candidate. I believe Railo has a good start in this area...not sure about Smith. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: MS SQL Server and bulk insert
On 2/9/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, wow, is this just for backup purposes? What an odd process for DB replication! No, our mainframe experiences several hours of downtime at night (like from 2-5am). It could run 24/7 but nobody in OIT wants to do that. Plus, there was a time when querying the mainframe database was difficult and unreliable due to connectivity issues that it took the mainframe guy several years of me harassing him before he bothered to spend time optimizing it for those type of connections (in the past, all of the work was done via 3270 or similar interfaces.. it didn't like the JDBC/ODBC connections at all) Replication wasn't an option because that would require purchasing very very expensive tools on the mainframe side. So we just got in the habit of exporting the data nightly and keeping a copy in our own local SQL Server database. Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Can I put focus on a Flash Form Field?
To add actionscript to a flash form you just need: cfformitem type=script AS code goes here ... /cfformitem This will be inside your cfform format=flash ... Teddy On 2/8/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javascript can't do it, but actionscript can. Unfortunately, I can't recall how to add actionscript to a flash form, nor do I remember the exact syntax for doing it... But essentially, the form runs some actionscript when it loads, and sets focus to the form field. It's actually pretty easy to add actionscript to flash forms if I remember correctly. Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269286 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Need help searching for files in a directory
Will be filename...or something like it. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Need help searching for files in a directory What are your search criteria? Filename, ID3? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Bob Imperial To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri Feb 09 08:58:00 2007 Subject: Need help searching for files in a directory I'm trying to figure out how to go about searching through a directory of mp3 files I have in a shared hosting environment so no verity. The search criteria would be passed via a form variable, so, I'm wondering if it's possible to use cfdirectory list and maybe dump the results into an array, then do loop through the array using listfindnocase on it to find the specific file?? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated, I've goggled it to death only to run into the verity avenue, which I can do locally, but alas, not in my shared hosting scenario. Thanks!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269287 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Need help searching for files in a directory
Thanks Gert!! I knew it would be something relatively simple, but at 4AM things just don't always fall into place ;-) Now that I've had some sleep, it's off to come up with more things to ponder. Bob -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Need help searching for files in a directory Well since you qould try to use verity and verity does not index mp3 files for their content, I assume you are just looking for a filename. So what you can do is (assuming you have cfmx7): cfdirectory action=LIST directory=D:\multimedia name=qryResult filter=*.mp3 recurse=Yes cfquery name=getFile dbtype=query Select * from qryResult Where name Like '%Alanis%' /cfquery cfdump var=#getFile# Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie unserer Mailingliste bei: deutsch: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ Bob Imperial schrieb: I'm trying to figure out how to go about searching through a directory of mp3 files I have in a shared hosting environment so no verity. The search criteria would be passed via a form variable, so, I'm wondering if it's possible to use cfdirectory list and maybe dump the results into an array, then do loop through the array using listfindnocase on it to find the specific file?? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated, I've goggled it to death only to run into the verity avenue, which I can do locally, but alas, not in my shared hosting scenario. Thanks!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269288 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Problems uploading text file in CF
I am trying to upload a text file using CF, but I get the following error. The MIME type of the uploaded file text/plain was not accepted by the server. My coldfusion is running on Unix platform. The code which I m usiing is as follows:- !--- Windows Example --- !--- Check to see if the Form variable exists. --- cfif isDefined(Form.FileContents) !--- If TRUE, upload the file. --- cffile action = upload fileField = FileContents destination = /trpt/home/TRPT/cfm_scripts/ accept = text/html nameConflict = MakeUnique cfelse !--- If FALSE, show the Form. --- form method=post action=cfoutput#cgi.script_name#/cfoutput name=uploadForm enctype=multipart/form-data input name=FileContents type=file br input name=submit type=submit value=Upload File /form /cfif Please help!!! Hussain. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269289 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Divs not looking right in NS
I have a little search function that is directly below the main menu that does not look right in NS (Nested divs). I have tested in IE and everything seems fine. Any suggestions? You can see the differences by going here. http://72.174.248.16/totallyclassified/index.cfm CODE: cfoutput div id=mainDiv style=position:absolute; top:75px; left:75px; width:500px; CFFORM name=qSearch action=index.cfm?page=cresults#session.amper##session.URLTOKEN# div id=categories style=width:320px; height:33px; margin-top:2px; padding-left:5px; padding-top:6px; float:right; background:url(images/xp3.gif); border: 1px solid; border-color:##CC; CFSELECT name=search_cats label= required=no OPTION value=0 selectedSearch All Categories/OPTION CFLOOP query=allMainCats OPTION value=#AllMainCats.categoryID# cfif isDefined(url.cid) AND url.cid eq AllmainCats.categoryIDSelected/cfif#allMainCats.CategoryName#/OPTION /CFLOOP /CFSELECT nbsp; CFINPUT type=reset name=reset value=Erase class=sbutton / CFINPUT type=submit name=qSearchSubmit value=Search class=bbutton INPUT type=hidden name=qSearchSubmit value=Seach IMG src=images/arrow_r.gif border=0 align=absmiddle /div div id=text_field style=width:120px; float:left CFINCLUDE template=recentSearch.cfm /div /CFFORM /div /cfoutput Thanks Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269290 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Problems uploading text file in CF
Sounds like you need set permissions ... Take a peek at: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-p35.htm#wp354009 1 this should get you there. Bob -Original Message- From: hussain shaikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Problems uploading text file in CF I am trying to upload a text file using CF, but I get the following error. The MIME type of the uploaded file text/plain was not accepted by the server. My coldfusion is running on Unix platform. The code which I m usiing is as follows:- !--- Windows Example --- !--- Check to see if the Form variable exists. --- cfif isDefined(Form.FileContents) !--- If TRUE, upload the file. --- cffile action = upload fileField = FileContents destination = /trpt/home/TRPT/cfm_scripts/ accept = text/html nameConflict = MakeUnique cfelse !--- If FALSE, show the Form. --- form method=post action=cfoutput#cgi.script_name#/cfoutput name=uploadForm enctype=multipart/form-data input name=FileContents type=file br input name=submit type=submit value=Upload File /form /cfif Please help!!! Hussain. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269291 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Salary: Manage CF WebTeam
All, What's a good salary range for an active developer that also manages a cf team? I know there's been long threads in the past discussing average salaries of cf developers based on number of years experience and location. However, here's a fun topic. What about if your Marketing or IT boss asks you to become the manager of the Web development team? The initial factors I came up with that may factor into this final number would be ... 1) Number of CF years of experience 2) Number of developers you manage 3) Number of Web sites your responsible for. Here's a nice quote ... Base compensation for web developers will rise 4.2 percent in 2007, ranging from $54,750 to $81,500 per year. Senior web developers can expect to earn between $71,000 and $102,000 annually, a 3.9 percent increase over 2006 levels. Q: So should actively developing cf web team managers make more? http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/tools/ept/careerArticlesPost.html?post=33 D ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269292 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam
From my limited knowledge of the salaries that are being offered to developers in my area, I'd say those numbers you quoted match fairly well. For someone managing a team of CF developers, look towards the high range of the senior developer salary (85,000+). Now, this is just what some would consider fair market value which, of course, does not always come into play depending a myriad of factors. Size of company, scope of work, breadth and depth of overall technical expertise, ability to manage effectively, etc... That's my opinion since that's what you're asking for. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam All, What's a good salary range for an active developer that also manages a cf team? I know there's been long threads in the past discussing average salaries of cf developers based on number of years experience and location. However, here's a fun topic. What about if your Marketing or IT boss asks you to become the manager of the Web development team? The initial factors I came up with that may factor into this final number would be ... 1) Number of CF years of experience 2) Number of developers you manage 3) Number of Web sites your responsible for. Here's a nice quote ... Base compensation for web developers will rise 4.2 percent in 2007, ranging from $54,750 to $81,500 per year. Senior web developers can expect to earn between $71,000 and $102,000 annually, a 3.9 percent increase over 2006 levels. Q: So should actively developing cf web team managers make more? http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/tools/ept/careerArticlesPost.html?pos t=33 D ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269293 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Problems uploading text file in CF
Well, look at your ACCEPT attribute. You have it set to text/html, so it won't accept any other MIME type. You need to add text/plain so that list if you want to upload files of that type. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ -Original Message- From: hussain shaikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Problems uploading text file in CF I am trying to upload a text file using CF, but I get the following error. The MIME type of the uploaded file text/plain was not accepted by the server. My coldfusion is running on Unix platform. The code which I m usiing is as follows:- !--- Windows Example --- !--- Check to see if the Form variable exists. --- cfif isDefined(Form.FileContents) !--- If TRUE, upload the file. --- cffile action = upload fileField = FileContents destination = /trpt/home/TRPT/cfm_scripts/ accept = text/html nameConflict = MakeUnique cfelse !--- If FALSE, show the Form. --- form method=post action=cfoutput#cgi.script_name#/cfoutput name=uploadForm enctype=multipart/form-data input name=FileContents type=file br input name=submit type=submit value=Upload File /form /cfif Please help!!! Hussain. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269294 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CFGrid data not showing
I have never used cfgrid before, and I have followed the coldfusion mx 7 documentation examples, and I have read through some articles on the macromedias developer community on using cfgrid but I am still having an issue. I'm query test data, and would like to have it editable in the cfgrid. The form gets generated but none of the data returned by the query shows up in the grid. Here is my code. cfquery datasource=test name=list select * from list /cfquery cfform format=flash cfgrid format=flash name=List query=list selectmode=edit /cfgrid /cfform If I do a cfdump of the query I see all the data it is just not showing up in the grid. I'm not sure if i'm missing something or what is going on. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269295 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFGrid data not showing
Couple of stabs in the dark. You might change your query name and/or cfgrid name. Both of them are 'list', which might be causing a conflict. Second, you should name the form. It's optional, but a lot of JS stuff requires it (there's a lot of background JS in cfforms). Third, there's an option in the CFAdmin for displaying flash form errors, and it's off by default. A lot of times you're getting an error but you don't see it (it does show up in the logs, though). On 2/9/07, Michael Beins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never used cfgrid before, and I have followed the coldfusion mx 7 documentation examples, and I have read through some articles on the macromedias developer community on using cfgrid but I am still having an issue. I'm query test data, and would like to have it editable in the cfgrid. The form gets generated but none of the data returned by the query shows up in the grid. Here is my code. cfquery datasource=test name=list select * from list /cfquery cfform format=flash cfgrid format=flash name=List query=list selectmode=edit /cfgrid /cfform If I do a cfdump of the query I see all the data it is just not showing up in the grid. I'm not sure if i'm missing something or what is going on. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269296 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam
I just shared that link with my boss. Sadly, 9 years of coldfusion experience with recent flex and flash programming, plus all theo ther crap I do that isn't my PRIMARY responsibility (sql server dba, windows and linux sys admin, etc)... I'm at the very bottom of the listed salary scale for senior developers. =) Ah well, at least my job is stable! Rick On 2/9/07, Steve Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my limited knowledge of the salaries that are being offered to developers in my area, I'd say those numbers you quoted match fairly well. For someone managing a team of CF developers, look towards the high range of the senior developer salary (85,000+). Now, this is just what some would consider fair market value which, of course, does not always come into play depending a myriad of factors. Size of company, scope of work, breadth and depth of overall technical expertise, ability to manage effectively, etc... That's my opinion since that's what you're asking for. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam All, What's a good salary range for an active developer that also manages a cf team? I know there's been long threads in the past discussing average salaries of cf developers based on number of years experience and location. However, here's a fun topic. What about if your Marketing or IT boss asks you to become the manager of the Web development team? The initial factors I came up with that may factor into this final number would be ... 1) Number of CF years of experience 2) Number of developers you manage 3) Number of Web sites your responsible for. Here's a nice quote ... Base compensation for web developers will rise 4.2 percent in 2007, ranging from $54,750 to $81,500 per year. Senior web developers can expect to earn between $71,000 and $102,000 annually, a 3.9 percent increase over 2006 levels. Q: So should actively developing cf web team managers make more? http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/tools/ept/careerArticlesPost.html?pos t=33 D ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269297 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFGrid data not showing
Couple of stabs in the dark. You might change your query name and/or cfgrid name. Both of them are 'list', which might be causing a conflict. Second, you should name the form. It's optional, but a lot of JS stuff requires it (there's a lot of background JS in cfforms). Third, there's an option in the CFAdmin for displaying flash form errors, and it's off by default. A lot of times you're getting an error but you don't see it (it does show up in the logs, though). On 2/9/07, Michael Beins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the new code. cfquery datasource=test name=list select * from Email_list /cfquery cfform format=flash name=emaillist cfgrid format=flash name=email query=list selectmode=edit /cfgrid /cfform And I turned on the debugging setting, but no error is showing up. A grid is generated but there is no data in it. It has colomun names and few empty rows. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269298 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFGrid data not showing
Oops, I don't know why I didn't see this before...you need to add your columns using cfgridcolumn. http://cfquickdocs.com/?getDoc=cfgridcolumn They go between your cfgrid tags. On 2/9/07, Michael Beins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple of stabs in the dark. You might change your query name and/or cfgrid name. Both of them are 'list', which might be causing a conflict. Second, you should name the form. It's optional, but a lot of JS stuff requires it (there's a lot of background JS in cfforms). Third, there's an option in the CFAdmin for displaying flash form errors, and it's off by default. A lot of times you're getting an error but you don't see it (it does show up in the logs, though). On 2/9/07, Michael Beins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the new code. cfquery datasource=test name=list select * from Email_list /cfquery cfform format=flash name=emaillist cfgrid format=flash name=email query=list selectmode=edit /cfgrid /cfform And I turned on the debugging setting, but no error is showing up. A grid is generated but there is no data in it. It has colomun names and few empty rows. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269299 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFGrid data not showing
Oops, I don't know why I didn't see this before...you need to add your columns using cfgridcolumn. http://cfquickdocs.com/?getDoc=cfgridcolumn They go between your cfgrid tags. On 2/9/07, Michael Beins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technically you don't you have to. If you specify just the query attribute in the cfgrid tag, and no cfgridcolumns it defaults to creating a column for column in the result set of the query. I also did try useng the cfgridcolumn but still no data is present in the grid. It shows the correct format. Just none of the data that you see when you do a cfdump of the result shows in the grid. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269300 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFGrid data not showing
Technically you don't you have to. If you specify just the query attribute in the cfgrid tag, and no cfgridcolumns it defaults to creating a column for column in the result set of the query. Hmm, didn't know that. Still stabbing in the dark...maybe you need to select real columns in your query, instead of 'select * from'? If that still doesn't work, you should look in your CF logs to see if you find any errors. I can't remember which log, but I've found flash form errors in one log one day, and then in another one another day. Kind of off topic, there are a lot of really cool examples and articles on flash forms at this site: http://www.asfusion.com/ -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269301 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Got it working...
Here is what I used cfscript context = getPageContext(); context.setFlushOutput(false); response = context.getResponse().getResponse(); out = response.getOutputStream(); response.setContentType(application/pdf); response.setContentLength(arrayLen(#docLite2#)); out.write(#docLite2#); out.flush(); out.close(); /cfscript Is there more to their example? This line doesn't make much sense(again the special characters, and where is webserivce defined mPdf = webserivce.getPolicyDocument(ââ¬Â¦); Can you send this to them, maybe they can help you out with the rest? cfsilent cfscript mPdf = createObject(java, java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream). init(); mPdf = webserivce.getPolicyDocument(ââ¬Â¦); MyVariable = mPdf.toString(ISO-8859-1); /cfscript /cfsilent cfcontent type=application/pdf; charset=ISO-8859-1 cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=filename=RM.pdf -Original Message- From: Torrent Girl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: binary to PDF yes it is with an outside vendor. they are sending me the contents of a PDF in an array of bytes this code sample was how they do it with java resp.setHeader(Content-Disposition, filename=RM.pdf); resp.setContentType(application/pdf); byte[] mPdf = webserivce.getPolicyDocument(ââ¬Â¦); // This is what you are getting ServletOutputStream out = resp.getOutputStream(); out.write(mPdf); out.close(); = = Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html = = ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269302 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Got it working...
On 2/9/07, Torrent Girl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I used cfscript context = getPageContext(); context.setFlushOutput(false); response = context.getResponse().getResponse(); out = response.getOutputStream(); response.setContentType(application/pdf); response.setContentLength(arrayLen(#docLite2#)); out.write(#docLite2#); out.flush(); out.close(); /cfscript Shoot, I wish I would've seen this thread earlier, I do almost that exact code in CFOpenMail, since imap.cfc returns attachments as ByteArrays, and if you don't want to write a temp file, that's the only way to do it. Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269303 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF and Flash Remoting
Any chance you checked the logs to see the full error? This normally spells it out right away... !k -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and Flash Remoting OK, I'm banging my head against a wall, and have been for the last four hours, so I'm putting the call out for some assistance. In our production environment we have our code base on a server, our db on another server, and our media (images, flash files, videos, etc.) on another server. In our development environment we've had it all located on a single machine, which we are now breaking out to more closely mirror our production environment, placing our code base on one machine (devstaging), with our db and media on another (devmedia). When calling a site from our staging system, we have a page with a flash app that does a remoting call to a cfc method that then takes the return data and creates a 'listing' display. This works fine on production, but isn't working on staging. Here's what we've been doing for the last four hours. Verified all pathing Verified flash gateway Verified cfc method call (cflog) Verified SQL calls (trace on MSSQL) Verified query returns within cfc method (cflog) Verified return struct (cfmail prior to cfreturn) Verified cfc method return (direct url method invocation) The Flash NetConnection Debugger states that there was an error with the query, but there is nothing to back that up in any fashion. Data is being produced and returned by the cfc, but the AmfStatusCall status says there was an Error Executing Database Query (which isn't correct). Other areas of the site on staging are working fine, including other flash files making remoting calls. This app is working perfectly within our production environment (and, yes, I synced the code to be sure.) So, I'm stumped, tired, grumpy, and thankfully already bald (otherwise I'd be pulling my hair out.) Anyone have any other suggestions on things I should check? Cutter ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269304 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam
At least you're at the bottom, I'm in the sub basement Cutter Rick Root wrote: I just shared that link with my boss. Sadly, 9 years of coldfusion experience with recent flex and flash programming, plus all theo ther crap I do that isn't my PRIMARY responsibility (sql server dba, windows and linux sys admin, etc)... I'm at the very bottom of the listed salary scale for senior developers. =) Ah well, at least my job is stable! Rick On 2/9/07, Steve Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my limited knowledge of the salaries that are being offered to developers in my area, I'd say those numbers you quoted match fairly well. For someone managing a team of CF developers, look towards the high range of the senior developer salary (85,000+). Now, this is just what some would consider fair market value which, of course, does not always come into play depending a myriad of factors. Size of company, scope of work, breadth and depth of overall technical expertise, ability to manage effectively, etc... That's my opinion since that's what you're asking for. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam All, What's a good salary range for an active developer that also manages a cf team? I know there's been long threads in the past discussing average salaries of cf developers based on number of years experience and location. However, here's a fun topic. What about if your Marketing or IT boss asks you to become the manager of the Web development team? The initial factors I came up with that may factor into this final number would be ... 1) Number of CF years of experience 2) Number of developers you manage 3) Number of Web sites your responsible for. Here's a nice quote ... Base compensation for web developers will rise 4.2 percent in 2007, ranging from $54,750 to $81,500 per year. Senior web developers can expect to earn between $71,000 and $102,000 annually, a 3.9 percent increase over 2006 levels. Q: So should actively developing cf web team managers make more? http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/tools/ept/careerArticlesPost.html?pos t=33 D ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269305 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF and Flash Remoting
I'm seeing the exact same error in the flash.log, but nothing whatsoever in the exception, application, or server logs. Cutter Kevin Aebig wrote: Any chance you checked the logs to see the full error? This normally spells it out right away... !k -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and Flash Remoting OK, I'm banging my head against a wall, and have been for the last four hours, so I'm putting the call out for some assistance. In our production environment we have our code base on a server, our db on another server, and our media (images, flash files, videos, etc.) on another server. In our development environment we've had it all located on a single machine, which we are now breaking out to more closely mirror our production environment, placing our code base on one machine (devstaging), with our db and media on another (devmedia). When calling a site from our staging system, we have a page with a flash app that does a remoting call to a cfc method that then takes the return data and creates a 'listing' display. This works fine on production, but isn't working on staging. Here's what we've been doing for the last four hours. Verified all pathing Verified flash gateway Verified cfc method call (cflog) Verified SQL calls (trace on MSSQL) Verified query returns within cfc method (cflog) Verified return struct (cfmail prior to cfreturn) Verified cfc method return (direct url method invocation) The Flash NetConnection Debugger states that there was an error with the query, but there is nothing to back that up in any fashion. Data is being produced and returned by the cfc, but the AmfStatusCall status says there was an Error Executing Database Query (which isn't correct). Other areas of the site on staging are working fine, including other flash files making remoting calls. This app is working perfectly within our production environment (and, yes, I synced the code to be sure.) So, I'm stumped, tired, grumpy, and thankfully already bald (otherwise I'd be pulling my hair out.) Anyone have any other suggestions on things I should check? Cutter ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269306 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
XML Validation Issue
I'm trying to validate some namespace-aware XML with corresponding schemas and xmlValidate refuses to confirm validity. Using Xerces (what underlies CF) directly does validate correctly. I'm using CF 7,0,2,142559. Anyone run into this before? Google's turned up little to nothing. I've posted a zip with the XML, XSD, and a CFM runner at http://www.barneyb.com/xml_validation.zip. Just unzip and hit 'test.cfm' and you'll see the validation results for both mechanisms. cheers, barneyb -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269307 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Webservice Woes
I have a cfc that processes form data, if the user chose Test it will just
hit the local cfc and do the data add/edit. But if they chose Live I want
to call the same cfc on a remote server as a ws and post the form data
there.
So I'm trying to pass an argumentcollection to the webservice like this:
cfinvoke method=postLabView
returnvariable=postLabView
argumentcollection=#LabView#
webservice=
http://localhost/trunk/lts/com/appCustAdmin.cfc?wsdl;
I've tried with and without hashes on the LabView (name of the form that
was submitted).
Without hashes it says You have attempted to dereference a scalar variable
of type class java.lang.String as a structure with members.
But with hashes blows up bad Web service operation postLabView with
parameters
{APPCUST_1257={AccessionInfoShowOrderCode},DSPDEFAULTVALUE_68={},DEFAULTVALUE_1193={0},OVERRIDEVALUE_1286={...
I have a method in the ws/cfc of postLabView with access=remote (and I
can hit other methods here that return data). I don't have to have an
argument for each formfield from the form do I? There are like 300
formfields. Is there a limit to the size of form/collection you can pass to
a webservice?
Greg
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Re: CFGrid data not showing
Technically you don't you have to. If you specify just the query attribute in the cfgrid tag, and no cfgridcolumns it defaults to creating a column for column in the result set of the query. Hmm, didn't know that. Still stabbing in the dark...maybe you need to select real columns in your query, instead of 'select * from'? If that still doesn't work, you should look in your CF logs to see if you find any errors. I can't remember which log, but I've found flash form errors in one log one day, and then in another one another day. Kind of off topic, there are a lot of really cool examples and articles on flash forms at this site: http://www.asfusion.com/ -- My Sites: Finally figured it out the help of our admin. The problem was the mapping to CFIDE folder. The mapping was wrong and therefore could not find all of the proper files. Hence not working correctly but also not creating an error. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269309 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Webservice Woes
LabView (name of the form that was submitted) What do you mean by this phrase? If you mean that you have something like this on the form page form name=LabView, this does not apply on the action page. On the action page the form values are always in a structure named form and I would do something like this: argumentcollection=#form#. If you do something on the action page that processes the form scope into a structure named LabView then this does not apply. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269310 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Can I put focus on a Flash Form Field?
Try this event handler:
cfformitem type=script
function goto_login():void {
username.setfocus();
}
!--- other AS code goes here ---
/cfformitem
I have built a few Flash Forms, and I would like to use the below code
to have the cursor flash in the first form field. Is this
possible...or is their other code that might work, cause the
following code does not work with my Flash Form.
script language=JavaScript
!--
document.login.username.focus();
//--
/script
Thanks so much
Bev Larson
National Security Technologies
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Re: Webservice Woes
This was the form that we are processing. form action=#myself##XFA.postLabView# method=post name=labView id=labView... On 2/9/07, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LabView (name of the form that was submitted) What do you mean by this phrase? If you mean that you have something like this on the form page form name=LabView, this does not apply on the action page. On the action page the form values are always in a structure named form and I would do something like this: argumentcollection=#form#. If you do something on the action page that processes the form scope into a structure named LabView then this does not apply. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Webservice Woes
Oh crap! You are right. I was used to using that while IN the cfc because I named the argument LabView. Thanks. Greg On 2/9/07, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LabView (name of the form that was submitted) What do you mean by this phrase? If you mean that you have something like this on the form page form name=LabView, this does not apply on the action page. On the action page the form values are always in a structure named form and I would do something like this: argumentcollection=#form#. If you do something on the action page that processes the form scope into a structure named LabView then this does not apply. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269313 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Webservice Woes
OK, upon further review, I AM inside the CFC with an argument calling the form LabView. So I think I have to call the form object LabView. Then while in this CFC if they chose Test I just do the data manipulation with cfquery, if they chose Live I'm trying to hit the remote server via the webservice. Here's the whole function: set name=postLabView value=#application.appCustManager.postLabView( attributes )# / cffunction name=postLabView hint=I process changes/removals of appCust setting. access=public returntype=string output=false cfargument name=LabView type=struct required=yes cfset var local = structNew() / cfif LabView.server EQ Test cfset local.ds = local_LabView.lab !--- First delete overrides for this lab --- cfquery name=delOverrides datasource=#local.ds# DELETE from appCustOverrides WHERELabID = cfqueryparam value=#LabView.lab# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR /cfquery !--- Now create overrides from the form --- cfparam name=dspAppCusts default= cfparam name=dspValues default= cfloop collection=#LabView# item=i cfif left(i, 9) EQ override_ !--- Get the id off i --- cfset id = right(i, len(i) - 9) cfset value = OverrideValue_id cfset appCust = AppCust_id cfset dspAppCusts = listappend(dspAppCusts, evaluate(appCust)) cfset dspValues = listappend(dspValues, evaluate(value)) cfquery name=addOverrides datasource=#local.ds# INSERT INTO appCustOverrides (AppCust, LabID, OverrideValue) VALUES (cfqueryparam value=#evaluate(appCust)# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR, cfqueryparam value=#LabView.lab# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR, cfqueryparam value=#evaluate(value)# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR) /cfquery /cfif /cfloop cfelse !--- Process liveoverrides for this lab --- cfinvoke method=postLabView returnvariable=qryGetLabView argumentcollection=#LabView# webservice= http://localhost/Labtest/trunk/lts/com/appCustAdmin.cfc?wsdl; /cfinvoke /cfif cfset local.msg = appCust settings updated for #LabView.lab# on #LabView.server#. cfreturn local.msg / /cffunction Greg On 2/9/07, Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh crap! You are right. I was used to using that while IN the cfc because I named the argument LabView. Thanks. Greg On 2/9/07, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LabView (name of the form that was submitted) What do you mean by this phrase? If you mean that you have something like this on the form page form name=LabView, this does not apply on the action page. On the action page the form values are always in a structure named form and I would do something like this: argumentcollection=#form#. If you do something on the action page that processes the form scope into a structure named LabView then this does not apply. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269314 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can I put focus on a Flash Form Field?
I'm sorry, but Actionscript is case sensitive:
username.setFocus();
Try this event handler:
cfformitem type=script
function goto_login():void {
username.setfocus();
}
!--- other AS code goes here ---
/cfformitem
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Re: Salary: Manage CF WebTeam
At least you're at the bottom, I'm in the sub basement Consider yourself lucky. I'm in Hell! :) Will ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269316 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Webservice Woes
OK, upon further review, I AM inside the CFC with an argument calling the form LabView. So I think I have to call the form object LabView. I think you don't want to use argument collection. A quick once over of your code says to me that you want to pass an entire structure to a single argument. ArgumentCollection is used so that you can pass a structure where each key is a separate argument in the function. For what I see, I would think you would want to be doing something like this in your call: cfinvoke method=postLabView returnvariable=postLabView LabView=#form# webservice = http://localhost/trunk/lts/com/appCustAdmin.cfc?wsdl; -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269317 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Need mac users help please
I have some mp3 files and word docs setup and displayed using cfdirectory list, everything displays fine and the whole right-click thing works well on PC, although, I got the following message from a friend who is on a Mac. If someone out there on a Mac would be so kind as to check these issues for me, I would actually take the weekend off ;-) http://lpcband.imperialart.com Thanks!! Bob Here's what's going on as far as my mac (I haven't tried it on a PC in the office yet): When I click on an MP3 it goes to a the page could not be found page.? If I right click the song, I can ask it to open in itunes (my preferred audio player) but it won't play.? It has the title in the play box but when I click on the play button it reverts to the last song actually played in my itunes library. With the docs, if I click on one it takes me to another the page could not be found page.? I can't seem to get it to open even with a right click.? The last time I clicked on a doc it actually went to what looks to be a programers page (kind of a form type page that had some script and such). ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269318 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Fusebox is going to get a facelift and we need your help. Things are really starting to happen within Team Fusebox and one of the main goals is to start off fresh with a new and improved website. New content, new everything. Including a new look. Since for the most part, we are programmers and not designers, we need your help. So we are announcing the first ever Fusebox Website design contest. * Site submittals will close on March 8, 2007, 5pm EST. Submittals after this time will not be accepted. * A winner will be announced on March 29, 2007. Interested? head over to http://trac.fuseboxframework.org/fusebox/wiki/WebSiteDesignRequirements for the complete set of rules, design requirements and submittal information. What do you get out of it? You mean besides the warm fuzzy feeling that comes from contributing to the community? Isn't that enough? No? Well then how about: * 2 Free passes to CFOBjective , held in Minneapolis, Minnesota, May 3 - 6, 2007 (courtesy of Jared Rypka-Hauer) * 1 Free pass to CFUNITED, held in Bethesda, Maryland, June 27 - 30, 2007 (courtesy of Michael Smith of Teratech) * Site designed by: with corresponding link on the footer of the home page Feel free to blog this or put this on other sites. The more response we get to this, the better the site will be. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269319 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
what scope type takes precedence?
I'm supporting some CF code and need to check something.. if you have 2 variables session.foo and url.foo and in a query you have select #foo# from table where blah = 1 which scope takes precedence? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269320 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: what scope type takes precedence?
in this case i'm sure it'd be URL, since session variables require a scope (they aren't hunted). On 2/9/07, Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm supporting some CF code and need to check something.. if you have 2 variables session.foo and url.foo and in a query you have select #foo# from table where blah = 1 which scope takes precedence? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: what scope type takes precedence?
I think neither - #foo# is like #variables.foo# so it won't look in the url or the session scope, and if foo is not defined in the variables scope anywhere it will fail with Variable foo is not defined. At least that's how I think it SHOULD work. Could be wrong though. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: what scope type takes precedence? I'm supporting some CF code and need to check something.. if you have 2 variables session.foo and url.foo and in a query you have select #foo# from table where blah = 1 which scope takes precedence? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269322 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: what scope type takes precedence?
Greg Morphis wrote: which scope takes precedence? The Fine Manual has a discussion of unscoped variables that includes the complete search order: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/0914.htm Sixten ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269323 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Since for the most part, we are programmers and not designers, we need your help. Wait a minute...I know you are a CF programmer too, Sandra, but I've always thought you were the best designer in our community! What do you mean you're not a designer? Or is that for the most part comment meant to exclude you from the we? ;) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269324 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Adding fields from a sql
Hi- I am not a proficient CF programmer, just got pushed into it. I need to add up fields brought in from a sql statement, various totals from different columns, and output them along with the individual column totals. Is there any way at all I can do this? I bet this sounds amatuer and trust me it is. Please take pity on me if someone out there can tell me! Thanks, Michele ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269325 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
this is kinda funny to me http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/current-style.cfm on that page, read what year they talk about being the best for design :( how can a site DEDICATED to cool design, be OUT OF DATE??? :) sorry, it just struck me as comical. tw On 2/9/07, Jacob Munson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since for the most part, we are programmers and not designers, we need your help. Wait a minute...I know you are a CF programmer too, Sandra, but I've always thought you were the best designer in our community! What do you mean you're not a designer? Or is that for the most part comment meant to exclude you from the we? ;) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269326 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: what scope type takes precedence?
Ah, I forget CF is nice and will do the work for you. - Original Message - From: Sixten Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: what scope type takes precedence? Greg Morphis wrote: which scope takes precedence? The Fine Manual has a discussion of unscoped variables that includes the complete search order: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/0914.htm Sixten ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269327 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flash remoting and onRequestEnd.cfm
Just wanted to follow up on this thread. We thought we had this issue solved, but it cropped up again. This time, we logged a certain variable and this is what we found: cfset VARIABLES.currentTemplate = getfilefrompath(LCase(cgi.path_translated)) / Recording VARIABLES.currentTemplate showed us that the page name for Flash Remoting calls was returned as gateway. So, the answer to this issue was to excluse any page called gateway from writing our stats. Thanks for everyone's help. This issue is busted!! Oh.. So assuming a CFC is hit via Flash Remoting, then that string would appear? That seems easy enough. Thanks. Andy matthews -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash remoting and onRequestEnd.cfm Here's what I dug up... basically just make sure the call isn't originating from the remoting gateway. cfif ARGUMENTS.thePage NEQ /flashservices/gateway // PROCEED AS NORMAL... /cfif Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash remoting and onRequestEnd.cfm A sample would help out. In this case, the page is all Flash and we're needing to find out how onRequestEnd is getting called multiple times from within this particular app. Thanks for the help Kevin. -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash remoting and onRequestEnd.cfm If you dump the current calling page and filter out pages coming from /flashservices/gateway than you shouldn't be triggering the onRequestEnd.cfm page anymore. I've got a sample at work I'll post tomorrow when I get in... Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash remoting and onRequestEnd.cfm Kevin... I'm not familiar with remoting at all. Can you clarify how I can filter out processes coming from remoting in the onRequestEnd.cfm? andy -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash remoting and onRequestEnd.cfm AMF is an encoded RPC and extremely similar to the idea of web services. You can learn about AMF at the Red5 project site or the AMFPHP site... If you ask your developer, he should be able to tell you why unless it's being called elsewhere that doesn't have anything to do with the CFC. Are you guys using authentication for your CFC? Is this happening with other CFC's? Has this been confirmed through the NetConnection Debugger (Flash tool)? At bare minimum you could ignore anything coming from the gateway within your onRequestEnd.cfm. Cheers, Kevin ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269328 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
With respect to the organizers of this contest, to Fusebox, and to you Sandra...this is a poor idea. This is basically asking people to work for free, with only a chance of the possibility of winning the contest. It's called Spec Work and it's a bad practice. Would any of the programmers on this list write CODE for free were this contest geared towards that? I'm not saying that a contest in and of itself is bad, but asking people to do work for free IS bad and it's unprofessional. Even straight up asking people to do pro bono work would be better than your current method. I'm just asking you to consider the message that this is sending the web professionals on this list. Andy Matthews Senior Coldfusion Developer Office: 877.707.5467 x747 Direct: 615.627.9747 Fax: 615.467.6249 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dealerskins.com -Original Message- From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced Fusebox is going to get a facelift and we need your help. Things are really starting to happen within Team Fusebox and one of the main goals is to start off fresh with a new and improved website. New content, new everything. Including a new look. Since for the most part, we are programmers and not designers, we need your help. So we are announcing the first ever Fusebox Website design contest. * Site submittals will close on March 8, 2007, 5pm EST. Submittals after this time will not be accepted. * A winner will be announced on March 29, 2007. Interested? head over to http://trac.fuseboxframework.org/fusebox/wiki/WebSiteDesignRequirements for the complete set of rules, design requirements and submittal information. What do you get out of it? You mean besides the warm fuzzy feeling that comes from contributing to the community? Isn't that enough? No? Well then how about: * 2 Free passes to CFOBjective , held in Minneapolis, Minnesota, May 3 - 6, 2007 (courtesy of Jared Rypka-Hauer) * 1 Free pass to CFUNITED, held in Bethesda, Maryland, June 27 - 30, 2007 (courtesy of Michael Smith of Teratech) * Site designed by: with corresponding link on the footer of the home page Feel free to blog this or put this on other sites. The more response we get to this, the better the site will be. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269329 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I'm not a designer. I can do radical CSS from an already designed layout, but I don't do well coming up with concepts. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced Since for the most part, we are programmers and not designers, we need your help. Wait a minute...I know you are a CF programmer too, Sandra, but I've always thought you were the best designer in our community! What do you mean you're not a designer? Or is that for the most part comment meant to exclude you from the we? ;) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269330 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Way way way back in the beginning of fusebox I helped with the first site. I was just searching around for a copy of it, but alas it is no longer. However archive.org has a cache of it. http://web.archive.org/web/19990125095504/http://www.fusebox.org/ Kind of fun to look through now and see how much has changed and not. For some reason the archive didn't get the images of the site (there were very few). Anyone else have the original copy? Steve? Joshua Cyr Savvy Software 866.870.6358 www.besavvy.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269331 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Adding fields from a sql
You'd probably have to be a bit more specific to get real solid answers. You can, for example, treat a query like an array and sum a column. cfset mytotal = arraysum(myquery[mycolumn]) You can sum row data across columsn cfset mytotal = myquery.mycolumn[1] + myquery.myothercolumn[1] If you can give us more info about what you want to accomplish, we can probably help you out. You can loop through a query and sum things along the way, too. So, what are you really trying to do? On 2/9/07, Michele Michele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- I am not a proficient CF programmer, just got pushed into it. I need to add up fields brought in from a sql statement, various totals from different columns, and output them along with the individual column totals. Is there any way at all I can do this? I bet this sounds amatuer and trust me it is. Please take pity on me if someone out there can tell me! Thanks, Michele ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269332 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I disagree. If someone wants to help, show the world what they can do, or whatever their reasoning why not? It's no different than a photo contest, art contest or the contest Ray Camden runs occasionally for showing off what you can do with your programing skills. It's a contest with prizes for the winner. If you have enough time and are so inclined power to you. Andy Matthews wrote: With respect to the organizers of this contest, to Fusebox, and to you Sandra...this is a poor idea. This is basically asking people to work for free, with only a chance of the possibility of winning the contest. It's called Spec Work and it's a bad practice. Would any of the programmers on this list write CODE for free were this contest geared towards that? I'm not saying that a contest in and of itself is bad, but asking people to do work for free IS bad and it's unprofessional. Even straight up asking people to do pro bono work would be better than your current method. I'm just asking you to consider the message that this is sending the web professionals on this list. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269333 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. If you WANT to work for free then by all means you should do so. If you believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase then you should ALSO do so. But putting out a contest, asking people to work for free is a bad idea, and not something that the community should support. Here's a list of articles discussing spec work and it's effects on the design community. Bear in mind that this ALSO affects the programming community. It basically devalues your work product. If you're willing to work for free this time, then why should you be charging me $65 per hour the next time. http://www.no-spec.com/archives/i-wish-i-had-written-this/ http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0104h.shtml http://www.no-spec.com/articles/design-contests/ http://designforum.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=_getfullarticleaid=115 5318 http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm?CategoryID=105 -Original Message- From: So Kenfused [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced I disagree. If someone wants to help, show the world what they can do, or whatever their reasoning why not? It's no different than a photo contest, art contest or the contest Ray Camden runs occasionally for showing off what you can do with your programing skills. It's a contest with prizes for the winner. If you have enough time and are so inclined power to you. Andy Matthews wrote: With respect to the organizers of this contest, to Fusebox, and to you Sandra...this is a poor idea. This is basically asking people to work for free, with only a chance of the possibility of winning the contest. It's called Spec Work and it's a bad practice. Would any of the programmers on this list write CODE for free were this contest geared towards that? I'm not saying that a contest in and of itself is bad, but asking people to do work for free IS bad and it's unprofessional. Even straight up asking people to do pro bono work would be better than your current method. I'm just asking you to consider the message that this is sending the web professionals on this list. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269334 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
This is basically asking people to work for free, with only a chance of the possibility of winning the contest. It's called Spec Work and it's a bad practice. Actually, it's a community open source project and everyone involved contributes their time, ideas and code (and in this case graphic design skills) for free. That's how open source projects work all around the world - people willing to offer their time and energy for the greater good. It's how all the frameworks for ColdFusion got built, it's how BlogCFC and all those other useful applications got built. There's no scam here - everyone knows exactly what they're getting into. No one is being forced to work for free... Sean A Corfield http://corfield.org/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269335 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. If you WANT to work for free then by all means you should do so. If you believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase then you should ALSO do so. But putting out a contest, asking people to work for free is a bad idea, and not something that the community should support. But wouldn't the only people who are work for free be those people who believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase? I think the contest is a perfectly fine idea. If people don't want to enter, nobody's twisting their arm. What the community should or should not support will likely be determined by...well, by the community. If nobody enters, nobody wanted to work for free and the community has spoken. But it could work the other way too. Here's a list of articles discussing spec work and it's effects on the design community. Bear in mind that this ALSO affects the programming community. It basically devalues your work product. If you're willing to work for free this time, then why should you be charging me $65 per hour the next time. That's silly. It doesn't devalue my work if I choose to donate my work to a cause that I'm behind. If I got paid $50 an hour for my last job, and somebody come along and offers me $75 an hour for my next job, should I say, no, no...i worked for $50 last time so why should i be charging you $75? I should be charging whatever my going rate is whenever I choose to charge that rate. When I choose to donate my work, it's just that. A donation. I don't believe one affects the other. Lots of folks donated their time to building fusebox. I still think they deserve to make some money in the future in spite of that fact :) -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269336 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Need mac users help please
Hi Bob, If someone out there on a Mac would be so kind as to check these issues for me, I would actually take the weekend off ;-) No problems for me, in either Firefox or Safari. I don't have IE for the Mac, so I don't know what would happen there. There's no reason to right-click anything. You just click the link to the file, and the browser/Mac decide what to do. In my particular case, the MP3 files opened and played using Quicktime in a new browser window or tab. For the docs, Firefox opened them in Word, while Safari downloaded and saved them. The different behavior may just be some settings preferences. But in neither case did I have any trouble accessing or using the files. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560 ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269337 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Andy, there are some good responses here already, but I'd like to add my two cents as well. First off - I am not an open source zealot. There are folks who would rather die then use commercial software, even if it saves then hundreds of hours of development time. I think that is plain stupid. That being said - open source is a wonderful way to distribute the work load of a project. I know my projects get a _lot_ of help from the community and gain a lot of strength from the constant bug fixes and updates people share. Maybe I'm alone - but most of the business I have now stems from the fact that I give away applications and blog daily (except today ;). So giving away code for free has certainly not hindered my earning potential. About the contests I don't really think they are even in the same league. The contests I ran were to talk about how programmers solve problems. I've been coding ColdFusion for 200 years or so (give or take a few years) and I find that I can still learn from the guy who picked it up last week. I wasn't asking folks to code for free. I was asking folks to build something small, share it, and let me (and my readers) critique it so we can all learn. It's about learning - not commerce. On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. If you WANT to work for free then by all means you should do so. If you believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase then you should ALSO do so. But putting out a contest, asking people to work for free is a bad idea, and not something that the community should support. Here's a list of articles discussing spec work and it's effects on the design community. Bear in mind that this ALSO affects the programming community. It basically devalues your work product. If you're willing to work for free this time, then why should you be charging me $65 per hour the next time. -- === Raymond Camden Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster Video game player? Have kids? Check out KidGamers.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
You've never won a contest, have you? The mere fact you posted here would lead one to believe you frequent these lists to elicit or supply help to others. The fact that you do this devalues any help you may seek, or others offer, elsewhere, and I think you should stop it. I think this contest, and Ray's contestes, are a great idea.. As a winner of one of Ray's contests, I can tell you, the prizes, exposure and most importantly, knowledge, gained far outweighed the time spent on the contest. Hell, if I had any design skills, I;d be tempted to enter this one. Get over it dude, no one is so good they cannot do Pro Bono work from time to time, especially when its for a community supported project. On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. If you WANT to work for free then by all means you should do so. If you believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase then you should ALSO do so. But putting out a contest, asking people to work for free is a bad idea, and not something that the community should support. Here's a list of articles discussing spec work and it's effects on the design community. Bear in mind that this ALSO affects the programming community. It basically devalues your work product. If you're willing to work for free this time, then why should you be charging me $65 per hour the next time. http://www.no-spec.com/archives/i-wish-i-had-written-this/ http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0104h.shtml http://www.no-spec.com/articles/design-contests/ http://designforum.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=_getfullarticleaid=115 5318 http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm?CategoryID=105 -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269339 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Ray... Please don't take my comments earlier to mean that I was talking about your contenst. Heck, I entered your Blackjack contest and won a WACK book. But I didn't care about the prize...I just wanted to try my hand at a coding challenge. I ended up winning, but more importantly (and one of the reasons why I entered) was to have my code (and my methods) evaluated publicly. That to me was more valuable than the book. I'm also not saying that Open source isn't valuable. I'm a big fan of open source and would RATHER use something created by a community as I think in the end it's going to be more solid AND more indicative of what the people actually want. andy -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced Andy, there are some good responses here already, but I'd like to add my two cents as well. First off - I am not an open source zealot. There are folks who would rather die then use commercial software, even if it saves then hundreds of hours of development time. I think that is plain stupid. That being said - open source is a wonderful way to distribute the work load of a project. I know my projects get a _lot_ of help from the community and gain a lot of strength from the constant bug fixes and updates people share. Maybe I'm alone - but most of the business I have now stems from the fact that I give away applications and blog daily (except today ;). So giving away code for free has certainly not hindered my earning potential. About the contests I don't really think they are even in the same league. The contests I ran were to talk about how programmers solve problems. I've been coding ColdFusion for 200 years or so (give or take a few years) and I find that I can still learn from the guy who picked it up last week. I wasn't asking folks to code for free. I was asking folks to build something small, share it, and let me (and my readers) critique it so we can all learn. It's about learning - not commerce. On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. If you WANT to work for free then by all means you should do so. If you believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase then you should ALSO do so. But putting out a contest, asking people to work for free is a bad idea, and not something that the community should support. Here's a list of articles discussing spec work and it's effects on the design community. Bear in mind that this ALSO affects the programming community. It basically devalues your work product. If you're willing to work for free this time, then why should you be charging me $65 per hour the next time. -- === Raymond Camden Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster Video game player? Have kids? Check out KidGamers.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269340 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I assumed your comment: I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. was in response to: It's no different than a photo contest, art contest or the contest Ray Camden runs occasionally for showing off what you can do with your programing skills. So even if you thought it was bad practice, you entered anyway? And you want ray to believe you weren't talking about his contests? I think you can see where he, and others, might think you were. On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray... Please don't take my comments earlier to mean that I was talking about your contenst. Heck, I entered your Blackjack contest and won a WACK book. But I didn't care about the prize...I just wanted to try my hand at a coding challenge. I ended up winning, but more importantly (and one of the reasons why I entered) was to have my code (and my methods) evaluated publicly. That to me was more valuable than the book. I'm also not saying that Open source isn't valuable. I'm a big fan of open source and would RATHER use something created by a community as I think in the end it's going to be more solid AND more indicative of what the people actually want. andy -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Actually, I've won plenty of contests, one of them put on by Ray (the Blackjack contest). I've also won design contests and logo contests sponsored by Sitepoint. But that was before I realized what people were really asking for. People place such little value on design that they think it's acceptable to ask someone to design a site so that you can put it in your portfolio, or I'll pay you if I make money, or enter to win this great design contest. The thing is that this world couldn't function without design. From stop signs, to maps, to the directory in the Mall, or even the icons Eclipse. Your comments about my participation on CF-Talk are absurd and I won't even reply to them. I have ZERO problem with Pro Bono work. Did you completely overlook my last post which said do it pro bono instead of entering a contest. I think that doing pro bono work for the Fusebox site is a wonderful idea and I heartily recommend that SOMEONE pick up their request and do the site design for free. If the Fusebox group then decides to reward your time with those tickets than that's awesome. But if you're doing the work as Pro Bono then you weren't expecting anything now were you? I'm simply saying that this contest devalues the overall work product because it expects that people would be willing to work towards a prize that they might not win. Disagree with me or not, this is something that EVERY professional design organization frowns upon. Make sure to read through the links that I posted. Andy Matthews Senior Coldfusion Developer Office: 877.707.5467 x747 Direct: 615.627.9747 Fax: 615.467.6249 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dealerskins.com -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced You've never won a contest, have you? The mere fact you posted here would lead one to believe you frequent these lists to elicit or supply help to others. The fact that you do this devalues any help you may seek, or others offer, elsewhere, and I think you should stop it. I think this contest, and Ray's contestes, are a great idea.. As a winner of one of Ray's contests, I can tell you, the prizes, exposure and most importantly, knowledge, gained far outweighed the time spent on the contest. Hell, if I had any design skills, I;d be tempted to enter this one. Get over it dude, no one is so good they cannot do Pro Bono work from time to time, especially when its for a community supported project. On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that...but THOSE contests are bad practices as well. If you WANT to work for free then by all means you should do so. If you believe in supporting the Fusebox group and their excellent codebase then you should ALSO do so. But putting out a contest, asking people to work for free is a bad idea, and not something that the community should support. Here's a list of articles discussing spec work and it's effects on the design community. Bear in mind that this ALSO affects the programming community. It basically devalues your work product. If you're willing to work for free this time, then why should you be charging me $65 per hour the next time. http://www.no-spec.com/archives/i-wish-i-had-written-this/ http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0104h.shtml http://www.no-spec.com/articles/design-contests/ http://designforum.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=_getfullarticlea id=115 5318 http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm?CategoryID=105 -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm simply saying that this contest devalues the overall work product because it expects that people would be willing to work towards a prize that they might not win. And thus far, the overwhelming majority has disagreed with you. You don't need me or anybody else to tell you that you're entitled to your opinion. But you may need somebody to tell you that your opinion may not reflect the collective opinion of the community. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269343 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
That's fine. I'm not going to quit the list because someone disagrees with me. It's Sandra's choice to offer the contest and it's the community's choice to enter. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm simply saying that this contest devalues the overall work product because it expects that people would be willing to work towards a prize that they might not win. And thus far, the overwhelming majority has disagreed with you. You don't need me or anybody else to tell you that you're entitled to your opinion. But you may need somebody to tell you that your opinion may not reflect the collective opinion of the community. -- Charlie Griefer ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
One last thing. Since most of you disagree with me (and that's totally fine), at what point do YOU think it's a bad idea? Just a few days ago, someone was asking for a really elaborate piece of coding for a site and people thought that was ridiculous that someone would ask that. In what way is this different? Sandra isn't asking someone to come up with a design that she will use. She's asking many people to come up with designs that they might pick one (what if none of them are good enough?). The rest of the people are basically out of luck. They don't get any recognition or compensation for their time. andy -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm simply saying that this contest devalues the overall work product because it expects that people would be willing to work towards a prize that they might not win. And thus far, the overwhelming majority has disagreed with you. You don't need me or anybody else to tell you that you're entitled to your opinion. But you may need somebody to tell you that your opinion may not reflect the collective opinion of the community. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269345 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
even if it saves then hundreds of hours of development time. I think that is plain stupid. I would even add that it does not help developers because it constitutes an unfair competition and prevents others from offering a better commercial product. In that sense, it can be seen as a betrayal from developers against other developers, both ways. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269346 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I'm simply saying that this contest devalues the overall work product because it expects that people would be willing to work towards a prize that they might not win. Hmm, and yet when companies put out for bids on design work, the applicants will have to offer up designs for free in an attempt to win the bid. And that's true of more than just design. And, yes, I know *some* companies will pay applicants to bid but most don't. So it's common business practice to ask people to work for free in order to win a prize (a business deal). I'm really surprised at how up in arms you are getting about a simple contest for an open source project. Several framework projects have asked people to design logos for free (Mach II recently adopted a new logo after a design contest; CFEclipse went thru a similar process some time back; Reactor ran a logo contest). Some of these projects have also held open contests for website design. Did you complain publicly about those as well? If not, why not? Is there something about the Fusebox project that upsets you more than those other projects? As for devaluing work - my experience has been the opposite. People I know who've submitted work for free to community projects (in a number of communities that I belong to) have all gone on to get *more* paying work because of their free community work! Sean ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269347 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One last thing. Since most of you disagree with me (and that's totally fine), at what point do YOU think it's a bad idea? Just a few days ago, someone was asking for a really elaborate piece of coding for a site and people thought that was ridiculous that someone would ask that. In what way is this different? Sandra isn't asking someone to come up with a design that she will use. She's asking many people to come up with designs that they might pick one (what if none of them are good enough?). The rest of the people are basically out of luck. They don't get any recognition or compensation for their time. Not only is she not asking many people...she's not asking -any- people. She's not asking anybody to do anything that they don't want to do. I can virtually guarantee you that most (if not all) of the people who enter this particular contest are not going to do it for the potential prize. They're going to do it to show their support for fusebox and the community. -If- they happen to win, great. It's an incentive, sure. Would you have been OK with this if there was no prize? If there had simply been a request made for people (who want to support fusebox) to submit design ideas? and then maybe the members of Team Fusebox would vote on the best one? And it would end there? Because that's really the way that I see this. Yes, there is a prize. I just don't really think that's going to be anybody's primary motivation for entering. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Since most of you disagree with me I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269349 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
OK, so don't look at it as a contest. Look at it as a several people doing Pro Bono work where there is a potential of getting rewarded for their time. I have ZERO problem with Pro Bono work. Did you completely overlook my last post which said do it pro bono instead of entering a contest. I think that doing pro bono work for the Fusebox site is a wonderful idea and I heartily recommend that SOMEONE pick up their request and do the site design for free. If the Fusebox group then decides to reward your time with those tickets than that's awesome. But if you're doing the work as Pro Bono then you weren't expecting anything now were you? -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269350 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) Couldn't that be said of EVERY contest? I would agree with you ONLY if the one setting up the contest was a business who stood to benefit, but we are talking about a group of people who dedicate a lot of their own time for the benefit of the community. And not one of them gets ANY compensation to do so. So, by offering up a prize, they are actually giving someone not only a chance to help the community, but to profit from it as well. -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269351 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since most of you disagree with me I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) Please tell me this was not meant to be stated this way?? I work on alot of Open Source projects in the PHP community and none that I can recall ever did any contests. Yet I still plugged alone on parts I felt I could contribute. I am also involved now with Fusebox and when I checked off I was interested in contributing did I expect to get paid??? Its friday I guess a few peeps should go home early Eric ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269352 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Sean... I have nothing against Fusebox at all. I think I've made that pretty clear. I have respect for their product, even if I don't personally use it. Your first paragraph though is the crux of the problem. Companies EXPECT people to work for free to get a prize. That's wrong and it's unreasonable. I would never do a design for free just to get a job. What if someone wanted you to write an app for them just to be considered for a position? Would you do it? What if this was a coding contest to write the best function to do X. When I design websites, (I started off as a designer, before moving into programming by the way), I budget at least 20-30 hours. Would you be willing to spend 30 hours writing a function that might never even get used because someone elses was better? andy -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced I'm simply saying that this contest devalues the overall work product because it expects that people would be willing to work towards a prize that they might not win. Hmm, and yet when companies put out for bids on design work, the applicants will have to offer up designs for free in an attempt to win the bid. And that's true of more than just design. And, yes, I know *some* companies will pay applicants to bid but most don't. So it's common business practice to ask people to work for free in order to win a prize (a business deal). I'm really surprised at how up in arms you are getting about a simple contest for an open source project. Several framework projects have asked people to design logos for free (Mach II recently adopted a new logo after a design contest; CFEclipse went thru a similar process some time back; Reactor ran a logo contest). Some of these projects have also held open contests for website design. Did you complain publicly about those as well? If not, why not? Is there something about the Fusebox project that upsets you more than those other projects? As for devaluing work - my experience has been the opposite. People I know who've submitted work for free to community projects (in a number of communities that I belong to) have all gone on to get *more* paying work because of their free community work! Sean ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Since most of you disagree with me (and that's totally fine), at what point do YOU think it's a bad idea? I think it's a bad idea when the prize is commercial work (in other words, companies asking for commercial design bids on spec is not great business for anyone). If people are bidding on a commercial project, it is reasonable that they get compensation for the bid itself. If people are being asked to bid on something where there is no commercial work, no compensation - other than perhaps some name recognition - then it's fine. The winner won't get paid, no one will get paid. Just a few days ago, someone was asking for a really elaborate piece of coding for a site and people thought that was ridiculous that someone would ask that. Well, a lot of ridiculous requests come through here :) If the really elaborate piece of coding was for a paid job then the contributor should get paid. If it was for a free project, it's a reasonable request. Hey, I'm doing this work for free, for a community project (or whatever) - anyone fancy helping me out for free by contributing? In what way is this different? ... They don't get any recognition or compensation for their time. The winner gets no compensation (how many times do I have to say that?). I believe that every submission will get listed on a publicly visible page with attribution (as has happened in all of the logo contests I mentioned in my earlier post) and then a group of people will vote on those submissions and the winning submission will be used to create the look'n'feel of the new site. With attribution on the site itself. Since the contest submissions will probably be posted on the Fusebox wiki, I expect the page can stay up pretty much indefinitely offering recognition to all entrants. Sean ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) And if the winner is an entire community of developers...? Sean ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269355 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Forcing a default directory on file download
If you're on an intranet, could you write the file to a common mapped drive instead of downloading it at all? -Original Message- From: OÄuz Demirkapı [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Forcing a default directory on file download Hi I have a dummy client request that I wonder if there is a solution. We have a data file that we are exporting from our web based application. I created a download process and I force to download data file with cfcontent and client downloads this file to the local. After that client must put this file into a specific directory by just copying the file. But this process looks complicated for the client and they want to save this file direct into this specific directory. Ok they can select this directory and save file but they want to do this via application because they have different agents who does not know this directory in mind. When I prompt file download they want to see this specific directory as default save location. I said this is technically not possible, but before closing this request, I just want to be sure by asking here. Can we force to save into a specific directory or can we set default save location via application? Any idea? ~~~ OÄuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi AT teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269356 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean... I have nothing against Fusebox at all. I think I've made that pretty clear. I have respect for their product, even if I don't personally use it. Your first paragraph though is the crux of the problem. Companies EXPECT people to work for free to get a prize. That's wrong and it's unreasonable. I would never do a design for free just to get a job. What if someone wanted you to write an app for them just to be considered for a position? Would you do it? What if this was a coding contest to write the best function to do X. When I design websites, (I started off as a designer, before moving into programming by the way), I budget at least 20-30 hours. Would you be willing to spend 30 hours writing a function that might never even get used because someone elses was better? (just to be perfectly clear...i'm not sean, but...) It depends. Risk vs. Reward. If the potential reward was the job of a lifetime... my dream job (etc etc), I'd be willing to invest some time into writing something. I spent more than 20-30 hours on the Blackjack contest, and lord knows nobody's going to use my entry. But it was fun, and I learned quite a bit (the latter being the reason I entered in the first place). That's actually a great example. I didn't enter that contest for the prize. Didn't need the prize. I entered because I thought that, for me, it would be a good learning experience (and it was). The prize isn't always the motivation. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269357 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
The problem with this contest is that people are being asked to contribute a significat amount of time with no guarentee of winning. This isn't like spending a dollar to enter the lottery. I budget a minimum of 20-30 hours of my time with ANY design project. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) Couldn't that be said of EVERY contest? I would agree with you ONLY if the one setting up the contest was a business who stood to benefit, but we are talking about a group of people who dedicate a lot of their own time for the benefit of the community. And not one of them gets ANY compensation to do so. So, by offering up a prize, they are actually giving someone not only a chance to help the community, but to profit from it as well. -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269358 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with this contest is that people are being asked to contribute a significat amount of time with no guarentee of winning. This isn't like spending a dollar to enter the lottery. I budget a minimum of 20-30 hours of my time with ANY design project. Think Sean or Hal or Jeff or any of those people spent more than 30 hours on Fusebox? Think Sandra's not going to be investing more than 30 hours in organizing the new site or the new documentation? Everybody involved in this (and most) projects are going to invest a significant amount of time. That's why I said previously that I -suspect- that those who are entering aren't doing so with the explicit intent of trying to win a prize. They're doing so as a way to contribute. The prize is just a nice little bonus -if- it happens. But nobody's twisting anybody's arm. This isn't some starving designer who's about to lose his house and family because he's out of work being taken advantage of by a design firm. Perspective, man :) -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269359 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I have nothing against Fusebox at all. I think I've made that pretty clear. I have respect for their product, even if I don't personally use it. Product?? Product???!?!? Is that how you see the community-created frameworks and tools or was that perhaps just a bad choice of words? Your first paragraph though is the crux of the problem. Companies EXPECT people to work for free to get a prize. *Some* companies. And I've answered this in another response in the thread. I would never do a design for free just to get a job. That's fine. There are some jobs you would never get (and, by your principles, those would be for companies - or community projects - that you wouldn't want to work for). What if someone wanted you to write an app for them just to be considered for a position? Would you do it? No, I won't even write code on demand in an interview. I'd probably point them at some of my open source code. If I were a designer, I'd want to be able to point them at a public portfolio. If that portfolio is made broader by community contributions, that sounds like a good thing to me. But it's a value judgment each developer or designer must make for themselves. What if this was a coding contest to write the best function to do X. Like Ray's contests, you mean? Would you be willing to spend 30 hours writing a function that might never even get used because someone elses was better? I've contributed many hundreds of hours to open source projects over the years**. Some get used. Some don't. I don't complain to mailing lists about it... :) ** including OpenOffice.org, Mono, GNU's Standard Template Library for C++ and numerous others that have nothing to do with websites or ColdFusion. I don't know if my contributions are actually part of those projects or whether any attribution recognizes my work. That's fine. I contributed without any expectations. Sean ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269360 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Blah Blah Blah vs. blah blah blah = lots of blah blah blah I would suggest maybe you shouldn't enter the contest. Just a thought. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced The problem with this contest is that people are being asked to contribute a significat amount of time with no guarentee of winning. This isn't like spending a dollar to enter the lottery. I budget a minimum of 20-30 hours of my time with ANY design project. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) Couldn't that be said of EVERY contest? I would agree with you ONLY if the one setting up the contest was a business who stood to benefit, but we are talking about a group of people who dedicate a lot of their own time for the benefit of the community. And not one of them gets ANY compensation to do so. So, by offering up a prize, they are actually giving someone not only a chance to help the community, but to profit from it as well. -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269361 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Luckily, I'm not in charge of documentation, that is Nat, Patrick and Steve. I'm only in charge of the Web site (with Brian Kotek), proofreading and editing (with Brian Kotek) and fusedocs. And yes, I'll be spending a great deal of time far in excess of 30 hours doing this. But that is my choice and I do it freely. No one is requiring anyone to enter. But we figured that there are people who want to contribute and think they don't have any applicable skills (and everyone does have something they can contribute if they want to) and so came up with the contest idea. I hope though that people do contribute in whatever ways they feel comfortable. Fusebox has been good for my career, and I want to give something back to the community, that's why I do it. As Sean said, all designs will be up on the wiki (thumbnailed and clickable to larger images), if someone likes a design there that isn't ultimately chosen for the website, they will be able to contact the designer. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with this contest is that people are being asked to contribute a significat amount of time with no guarentee of winning. This isn't like spending a dollar to enter the lottery. I budget a minimum of 20-30 hours of my time with ANY design project. Think Sean or Hal or Jeff or any of those people spent more than 30 hours on Fusebox? Think Sandra's not going to be investing more than 30 hours in organizing the new site or the new documentation? Everybody involved in this (and most) projects are going to invest a significant amount of time. That's why I said previously that I -suspect- that those who are entering aren't doing so with the explicit intent of trying to win a prize. They're doing so as a way to contribute. The prize is just a nice little bonus -if- it happens. But nobody's twisting anybody's arm. This isn't some starving designer who's about to lose his house and family because he's out of work being taken advantage of by a design firm. Perspective, man :) -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Here's another thought. I doubt the Fusebox folks would be paying anyone for a site design, so you, and other designers, are not missing out on anything. On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with this contest is that people are being asked to contribute a significat amount of time with no guarentee of winning. This isn't like spending a dollar to enter the lottery. I budget a minimum of 20-30 hours of my time with ANY design project. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced I agree with you. In a contest, there is always something to win, but when the only winner is the one who set up the contest, it is not a contest, it's a rip-off ;-) Couldn't that be said of EVERY contest? I would agree with you ONLY if the one setting up the contest was a business who stood to benefit, but we are talking about a group of people who dedicate a lot of their own time for the benefit of the community. And not one of them gets ANY compensation to do so. So, by offering up a prize, they are actually giving someone not only a chance to help the community, but to profit from it as well. -- Scott Stroz ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269363 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I just hope others that were thinking about contests don't pick this thread up on google searches. I really feel contests like these help all who participate Eric ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269364 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
cfchart woes - vertical labels like 3.70333333
I am converting some charts from cf5 (cfgraph) to CFMX7 (cfchart). My simple bar graphs that looked great in CF5 are not looking so good in CF7. My main problem is the y axis grid labels showing up as 3.703, 7.407, etc. Instead of 5,10,15 like they were before. I've been looking through the docs but I must be missing something. Here is what the new chart looks like: http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chart1wv2.jpg Here is what the old one looked like: http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chart2fp5.jpg I've played around with the gridLines and scaleTo but that doesn't seem to help. Thanks, -Ryan ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269365 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Forcing a default directory on file download
You could probably do it with a signed activeX contol... but... eww! Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269366 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Andy and Claude, I strongly urge you both to pursue other careers. More than likely, given your vast understanding of business principles, your are most likely to succeed in life if you move into government, and more specifically, business legislature. After all, in a position like that, you'll be able to write laws that put an end to the absurdities that go on in business (and the various industry communities). And, more importantly, you'll be raping me and your other constituents of our hard-earned tax dollars, because we'll be paying you to grind the enterprise world to a halt. If you had *any* sense at all, which you obviously do not, you would understand how utterly absurd your issue is. It's beyond pathetic. Devalued? WTF? I dare say that the fact that those who work for free (to use your words) are *able* to charge far in excess of what would normally be charged. For instance, while I might be hired for $75/hr, I highly doubt that you'll be able to hire a Sean, or a Ray, or a Hal for $75/hr. Hell, after airing your ridiculous belief here, I doubt you could hire *anyone* for less than a couple grand per hour. I damn sure wouldn't lift a finger to help you for less than that... I wouldn't want you to think I was cheap. Matt ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269367 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Forcing a default directory on file download
This is not a intranet project. Thanks anyway. We just decided to educate our client's clients with some demo videos or a detailed documentation. :) Dave Francis wrote: If you're on an intranet, could you write the file to a common mapped drive instead of downloading it at all? -Original Message- From: OÄuz Demirkapı [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Forcing a default directory on file download Hi I have a dummy client request that I wonder if there is a solution. We have a data file that we are exporting from our web based application. I created a download process and I force to download data file with cfcontent and client downloads this file to the local. After that client must put this file into a specific directory by just copying the file. But this process looks complicated for the client and they want to save this file direct into this specific directory. Ok they can select this directory and save file but they want to do this via application because they have different agents who does not know this directory in mind. When I prompt file download they want to see this specific directory as default save location. I said this is technically not possible, but before closing this request, I just want to be sure by asking here. Can we force to save into a specific directory or can we set default save location via application? Any idea? ~~~ OÄuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi AT teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ OÄuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi AT teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Hell, if I had any design talent (which I unfortunately do not, and have given up trying to acquire it), I'd enter the contest just to make sure my name was published. That way I could be guaranteed that you would never call me for work. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269369 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Anyone with *any* business sense at all knows that contests are an *extremely* good marketing/growth tool. Only the completely id10Tic people in this world can even consider the notion that contests are bad. On 2/9/07, Eric Haskins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just hope others that were thinking about contests don't pick this thread up on google searches. I really feel contests like these help all who participate Eric ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269370 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Hey Sandra, I am not a designer but I will also try my best in my free time. :) Thanks for your efforts, appreciate it! OÄuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi AT teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
1. It is different because this is for an open source community project. 2. Who cares if it is different? If someone is willing to donate their time to build an Ebay type application for free or provide a design for a site then power to them. It is their time and their life. 3. It is my opinion that you came across as trying to set the bar for what should and should not be supported on this list. To me should be an individual decision. The support this community provides is one of the things that sets ColdFusion apart to me. I've never been involved in a community of people so willing to help each other and on an ongoing long term basis. I have been part of this community for about 6 years and have seen the many of the same people here the entire time. It amazes me that people like Ray Camden, Sean Corfield, Ben Forta, David Watts, and a host of others spend time here helping programmers of all skill level. I still remember the first time Ben answered a question I posted. I was like dude, Forta answered my question! The guy that wrote the book! Although I was impressed by some of the big names, I've always been just as appreciative no matter who provided the help. I've had questions answered that I would have had to pay someone for if not for the support here. So should we all stop helping each other because we could charge each other as consultants? I wonder how much business the folks at FigLeaf have gotten because of their pro bono support of this list? I know I've hired them. Had it not been for their help here they wouldn't have gotten that contract. PS. Dave you still need to bill me. Andy Matthews wrote: One last thing. Since most of you disagree with me (and that's totally fine), at what point do YOU think it's a bad idea? Just a few days ago, someone was asking for a really elaborate piece of coding for a site and people thought that was ridiculous that someone would ask that. In what way is this different? Sandra isn't asking someone to come up with a design that she will use. She's asking many people to come up with designs that they might pick one (what if none of them are good enough?). The rest of the people are basically out of luck. They don't get any recognition or compensation for their time. andy ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269372 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I've read this thread over, start to finish... Andy, I don't know how to tell you this, but you're a massive hypocrite. Entering contests that you declare to be a bad idea and then rationalizing it? Where are you standards, man? Where are your ethics? I choose to believe that you're well-meaning here... but you're holding Ray a different standard than everyone else in one post, in another you're lumping him into the rest of it, and in yet another you're admitting that you've participated in his contests!!! Make up your mind! Also, nobody from Team Fusebox makes any money off Fusebox, so if you do something for the framework, don't expect to make anything off any of it... if you HAPPEN to score a ticket, be a happy camper, say thanks, and join the rest of us in working for somethingn big to support the community. For. Free. The contest is an INCENTIVE, not profit. You MIGHT get something, so do something or not, but help? And if you need a ticket to a conference and can't afford one/don't have an employer to pay for one, then try it... see if it works out for you. Anway, while I choose to believe you're well-meaning here, you're also blatantly fully of crap and slinging garbage around the community. This is a subject fully covered by free will, free markets and free minds... if you don't like it, don't do it. Granted, you're fully entitled by the laws of your country to whine as you have. Your freedom to espouse bulls***t is the same freedom enjoyed by those of us that are involved with Fusebox and able to put on a contest. A community contest. One that allows people to be creative and helpful at the same time. And, possibly, get some free tickets out of it. Can you afford to pay for these 3 tickets on your own? Do you think you might benefit from attending? Well, if the answer is no and yes, you might enter. You MIGHT win. You might NOT. That's the risk and the reward of *contest* and, frankly, your repeated assertion that you have to do work with no guarantee of winning is something you accept when you participate in a CONTEST. You might run a race. You might win. You might not. Better to stay sitting down. Your whole rationale is circular, capricious, selective and, really... Stupid. Sorry. It's the only word I can come up with. The thing you lack is community spirit. The thing you have is overriding self-interest. You have them backwards... get with the groove, relax, have some fun. Or dont. Up to you. Give the rest of us, though, a break. Thanks. With respect to the organizers of this contest, to Fusebox, and to you Sandra...this is a poor idea. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269373 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Couldn't that be said of EVERY contest? No, generally, in a contest, there is something to win. It is a rip-off when the winner wins nothing. but we are talking about a group of people who dedicate a lot of their own time for the benefit of the community. This is what they say. IMHO they don't give a dam the community, they just do it for glory, for the sensation of belonging to some group of nerds, or whatever. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269374 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
Anyone with *any* business sense at all knows that contests are an *extremely* good marketing/growth tool. I don't remember anyone ever said here that constests are bad. The only issue is about contests where the only one who wins is the one who set it up. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269375 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
This is what they say. IMHO they don't give a dam the community, they just do it for glory, for the sensation of belonging to some group of nerds, or whatever. Ah, Claude, you've figured out the cunning conspiracy... we don't give a dam (sic) about you, it's true :) ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269376 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
I think what you meant to say was: The only issue is that my panties are in a wad because I suck at what I do and so I'm going to bitch and moan that these 'contests' aren't rigged to benefit me. On 2/9/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only issue is about contests where the only one who wins is the one who set it up. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
