Re: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced
On 2/9/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is basically asking people to work for free, with only a chance of the possibility of winning the contest. It's called Spec Work and it's a bad practice. no, it's called a *contest*. Enter it, don't enter it, it's up to you. I don't do spec work either, but there's nothing wrong with a design contest for a site that serves all of us. -- mac jordan home: www.kestrel.org work: www.webhorus.net them: www.jordan-cats.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269395 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Need mac users help please
All seems fine, but if I were you, I would URL Encode the names (they have spaces in them) that might be giving some problems to some people. Just a thought MD On 10 Feb 2007, at 00:25, Bob Imperial wrote: Thanks Tom ;-) I am now not going to work late tonight -Original Message- From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Need mac users help please Hi Bob, If someone out there on a Mac would be so kind as to check these issues for me, I would actually take the weekend off ;-) No problems for me, in either Firefox or Safari. I don't have IE for the Mac, so I don't know what would happen there. There's no reason to right-click anything. You just click the link to the file, and the browser/Mac decide what to do. In my particular case, the MP3 files opened and played using Quicktime in a new browser window or tab. For the docs, Firefox opened them in Word, while Safari downloaded and saved them. The different behavior may just be some settings preferences. But in neither case did I have any trouble accessing or using the files. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560 ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269396 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Pro-Bono Work Offered
Doesnt that sound like a perfect candidate to work on the cfeclipse.org website? MD On 10 Feb 2007, at 00:36, Michael Wright wrote: Today's discussion of pro-bono work and its relative merits got me thinking. I'm learning ColdFusion with a view to a career change and I'm faced with the age old problem of no experience, no job. What I would like to do is offer my services to the wider CF community on a free of charge basis in return for developing contacts and references. (Of course if you feel my work deserves a little reward then I wont refuse lol) So if you have any small coding tasks you could send my way I'd be most appreciative. I'm based in the UK, but regularly find myself available during US working hours. If you feel you could use me please do not hesitate to contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with details of what you would like done, I won't promise I will be able to fulfill all requests but I view this as a valuable learning exercise. Regards Michael Wright ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269397 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Pro-Bono Work Offered
Mark I'd be delighted to help out with the cfeclipse.org website in any way I can. Feel free to get in touch anytime. Michael -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 February 2007 10:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Pro-Bono Work Offered Doesnt that sound like a perfect candidate to work on the cfeclipse.org website? MD On 10 Feb 2007, at 00:36, Michael Wright wrote: Today's discussion of pro-bono work and its relative merits got me thinking. I'm learning ColdFusion with a view to a career change and I'm faced with the age old problem of no experience, no job. What I would like to do is offer my services to the wider CF community on a free of charge basis in return for developing contacts and references. (Of course if you feel my work deserves a little reward then I wont refuse lol) So if you have any small coding tasks you could send my way I'd be most appreciative. I'm based in the UK, but regularly find myself available during US working hours. If you feel you could use me please do not hesitate to contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with details of what you would like done, I won't promise I will be able to fulfill all requests but I view this as a valuable learning exercise. Regards Michael Wright ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269398 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Form Waiting Animation
No, the page does not show a running clock. Do I need to ask for that as an element within CFFORM? My current code is: CFFORM NAME=fwsUI FORMAT=flash WIDTH=790 HEIGHT=615 I have not advanced to remoting yet, which I believe will help, but I'd like to improve the user experience until then. Doesn't the form itself show a running clock as it's loading? FYI... you might want to split this up into separate components. I've got extremely heavy flash forms with up to 8 queued remoting calls and the longest they take is maybe 5 seconds. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: John Maier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Form Waiting Animation I have a pretty sophisticated Flash CFFORM that takes about 15 seconds to initialize and load. Is there a way I can present the user with an animated waiting GIF first in the frame where the CFFORM goes so they don't get discouraged and click off the page? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269399 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF MX Access DSN w/o ODBC Service
On 2/9/07, dsmith @ psea. org dsmith @ psea. org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to create an access datasource on 6.1 w/o having the ODBC service running? There appears to be an access native driver but when I try to use it it tells me that the ODBC service isn't running. Thanks, I don't think Java can get to Access without ODBC. The native JDBC driver actually connects to the ODBC service to connect to access, I think. I don't think the JDBC driver included with Coldfusion is actually a Type IV driver, it's only a type 2 driver or something like that, so it requires some native code to get to Access - in this case, the ODBC service. I don't know if I'm right or not, because I haven't used Access in YEARS (it's not suitable for web apps, IMO) There is a pure java Type IV driver available from this company: http://hxtt-access.hongxin-technology-trade-ltd.qarchive.org/ don't know anything about it really though, other than I'd seen it before. Rick -- I'm not certified, but I have been told that I'm certifiable... Visit http://www.opensourcecf.com today! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269400 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Neat error message
I don't know what version of Codlfusion this person was using, but this error was just reported by someone attempting to use ImageCFC. -- An unexpected system error was detected. Error code is 4294934528 This type of error will most likely occur when the server running ColdFusion is low on memory and/or system resources. If you continue to experience this error in a reproducible fashion you should contact Allaire technical support. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFSET), occupying document position (25:9) to (25:60). -- Note the reference to Allaire technical support! Assuming that this person is using a modern version of CF... hasn't anyone at Macromedia heard of Global Find/Replace? =) Rick -- I'm not certified, but I have been told that I'm certifiable... Visit http://www.opensourcecf.com today! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269401 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Neat error message
Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. - Original Message - From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:23 AM Subject: Neat error message I don't know what version of Codlfusion this person was using, but this error was just reported by someone attempting to use ImageCFC. -- An unexpected system error was detected. Error code is 4294934528 This type of error will most likely occur when the server running ColdFusion is low on memory and/or system resources. If you continue to experience this error in a reproducible fashion you should contact Allaire technical support. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFSET), occupying document position (25:9) to (25:60). -- Note the reference to Allaire technical support! Assuming that this person is using a modern version of CF... hasn't anyone at Macromedia heard of Global Find/Replace? =) Rick -- I'm not certified, but I have been told that I'm certifiable... Visit http://www.opensourcecf.com today! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269402 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF MX Access DSN w/o ODBC Service
I don't know if this is it but have you checked if Coldfusion MX 7 ODBC Server is running In windows: Start Programmes Administrative Tools Services ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269403 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
Assuming that this person is using a modern version of CF... hasn't anyone at Macromedia heard of Global Find/Replace? =) First, replace Allaire with Macromedia. Then, replace Macromedia with Adobe. :^) ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269404 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF MX Access DSN w/o ODBC Service
Once upon a time, I seem to remember hearing that you could use OLEDB to connect to access: cfquery dbtype=oledb ... /cfquery However, I've never tried that :). If it works out, let me know. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269405 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269406 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
Is it running stable? And is it your app or you are hosting clients? I remember always having to stop/start 4.5 But then again, seems we are always doing the same to weblogic these days, at least our dev server -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269407 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
SOT: SQL Question
Hey, I'm wondering if anyone would know T-SQL I could use to accomplish the following (I don't have the luxury of writing an SQL function for this, unfortunately): I have a column called 'path' in a database (Oracle) that has the following types of values in it: Example 1: c:\foldername\documentname.ext (standard format) Example 2: c:\foldername\subfolder\my.document.name.ext(multiple periods) Example 3: c:\foldername\documentname (no extension) What I want to do is be able to extract the extension from the path in a select statement. I know I can do this easily in CF code, I'm trying to avoid looping through a large query and doing it if at all possible. Here's what I have so far, but it's too simple and doesn't work on example 2 above: select decode(inStr(Path,'.'),0,'',subStr(path,inStr(path,'.')+1,3)) from document I suppose I need to find a way to do something like a 'rightInStr()' or something like that. A way to get the position of the LAST period. Or if someone has some other idea of how I can do it in T-SQL, maybe using some CASE statements or something? I'm not great with CASE and SQL. Please, if anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it! Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269408 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Neat error message
Yep... running great. Never have any problems other than a creeping memory usage. I usually just restart the server once a week to bring the memory usage back down. It's probably due to some poor coding back when I first started. I don't have any problems with it at all... Oh, and yes... everything on it is apps and sites that I've built for clients. So I do host... I also have one site that I host for someone that I didn't build. I just give them an FTP account and they can login through the FTP server and gain access to their folder(s) on the web server via a networked drive. Rick -Original Message- From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Neat error message Is it running stable? And is it your app or you are hosting clients? I remember always having to stop/start 4.5 But then again, seems we are always doing the same to weblogic these days, at least our dev server ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269409 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: SQL Question
how about something that looks at the right 4 characters, and if the first of those 4 is a period, then get the right 3. I don't have SQL Server on this box, but it would be something like: select case left(right(path,4),1) when '.' then right(path,3) else '' end Again, don't have it in front of me, but, give it a try. Cheers, Kris I have a column called 'path' in a database (Oracle) that has the following types of values in it: Example 1: c:\foldername\documentname.ext (standard format) Example 2: c:\foldername\subfolder\my.document.name.ext(multiple periods) Example 3: c:\foldername\documentname (no extension) What I want to do is be able to extract the extension from the path in a select statement. I know I can do this easily in CF code, I'm trying to avoid looping through a large query and doing it if at all possible. Here's what I have so far, but it's too simple and doesn't work on example 2 above: select decode(inStr(Path,'.'),0,'',subStr(path,inStr(path,'.')+1,3)) from document ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269410 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Neat error message
Apart from cost (and I know it's a thrashed out debate) you cannot seriously that there is no compelling reason to not upgrade?! CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. Such as? Why would you want/need a programming language to cater for this and in what way? Do you mean more Ajax? More widgeta? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269411 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Neat error message
To add You surely cannot think that CFC, XML etc are not a reason to upgrade?! I'm with you on Flash forms though... Total bollox :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269412 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Strict Validation
I would like to validate my apps as xhtml strict, but what is the best way to deal with the anf ? in the url? Would I actually need to use urlEncode() or would I be able to simply do a find and replace #63 for ? and #38 for Thoughts? Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269413 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Strict Validation
You mean for writing out of anchors in your code? URLEncode would be the best way I believe. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Doug Brown To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 19:02:39 2007 Subject: Strict Validation I would like to validate my apps as xhtml strict, but what is the best way to deal with the anf ? in the url? Would I actually need to use urlEncode() or would I be able to simply do a find and replace #63 for ? and #38 for Thoughts? Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269414 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Strict Validation
Also, Strict XHTML is a nightmare sometimes as it encompasses everything! I usually always go for transitional. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Doug Brown To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 19:02:39 2007 Subject: Strict Validation I would like to validate my apps as xhtml strict, but what is the best way to deal with the anf ? in the url? Would I actually need to use urlEncode() or would I be able to simply do a find and replace #63 for ? and #38 for Thoughts? Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269415 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: SQL Question
Kris Jones wrote: select case left(right(path,4),1) when '.' then right(path,3) else '' end This will work on SQL Server (assuming all of your extensions are three characters), and possibly on Oracle(I think it now supports CASE). In your message you wanted a T-SQL solution, but said your database was Oracle. Did you mean to say a PL/SQL or possible just SQL solution? T-SQL is the proprietary version of SQL specific to Sybase and SQL Server. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269416 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
customizing .cfm files in cfeclipse
Does anyone know if there is a way to customize the default template for ..cfm files in CFEclipse? I would like to add the standard html I use for every template as the default. -- Thank You Dan Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.danvega.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269417 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Strict Validation
can be replaced by amp; You don't need to escape ? Just ampersands. You can get a listing (one of many, but the first one that popped up on my google search) at http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/reference/article.php/3472611 Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Strict Validation I would like to validate my apps as xhtml strict, but what is the best way to deal with the anf ? in the url? Would I actually need to use urlEncode() or would I be able to simply do a find and replace #63 for ? and #38 for Thoughts? Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269418 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF MX Access DSN w/o ODBC Service
Once upon a time, I seem to remember hearing that you could use OLEDB to connect to access: cfquery dbtype=oledb ... /cfquery However, I've never tried that :). If it works out, let me know. OLEDB is not supported in CFMX or newer versions. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269419 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF MX Access DSN w/o ODBC Service
Is it possible to create an access datasource on 6.1 w/o having the ODBC service running? There appears to be an access native driver but when I try to use it it tells me that the ODBC service isn't running. Are you using the Access w/Unicode driver? That doesn't rely on the ODBC services. The regular Microsoft Access driver does, in fact, rely on ODBC. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269420 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Strict Validation
what about = Doug B. - Original Message - From: Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Strict Validation can be replaced by amp; You don't need to escape ? Just ampersands. You can get a listing (one of many, but the first one that popped up on my google search) at http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/reference/article.php/3472611 Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Strict Validation I would like to validate my apps as xhtml strict, but what is the best way to deal with the anf ? in the url? Would I actually need to use urlEncode() or would I be able to simply do a find and replace #63 for ? and #38 for Thoughts? Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269421 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Strict Validation
Its fine, I use all of those in FB xml apps all the time. All xHTML is is HTML in an xml format, so all the cgi query items (with the exception of the ampersand) are fine. a href=http://www.shayna.com/index.cfm?type=id1amp;item2=3; / is perfectly valid. The only thing that needs to be escaped is the ampersand since it is used to escape other characters. nbsp;, etc. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Strict Validation what about = Doug B. - Original Message - From: Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Strict Validation can be replaced by amp; You don't need to escape ? Just ampersands. You can get a listing (one of many, but the first one that popped up on my google search) at http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/reference/article.php/3472611 Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Strict Validation I would like to validate my apps as xhtml strict, but what is the best way to deal with the anf ? in the url? Would I actually need to use urlEncode() or would I be able to simply do a find and replace #63 for ? and #38 for Thoughts? Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269422 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Neat error message
What I'm saying is that all *I* see, and there is the emphasis on my understanding, which is limited to reading about later versions and watching this list, is that CF basically has advanced in its data handling capability. From what I can tell, the tools used are more capable, like CFC's, etc. (now remember, I've never even seen a CFC, so my perspective may be sadly lacking), but for my requirements, CF 4.5 does as good a job as CF 7. I'm much more concerned about creating more effective presentations of data than I am about how that data is retrieved or handled in the code. Now, remember, my sites are small up to this point, so I'm not handling a massive amount of transactions or churning a lot of data, where speed is of the essence. (and that assumes the CF 7 is always faster than 4.5, which per some conversations on this list, I read that it's not) But I'll put the question to you as well.. and I've asked this before... what are the reasons why I should spend $1300 to move from 4.5 to 7? What will I gain since 4.5 currently meets my data-handling requirements? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Apart from cost (and I know it's a thrashed out debate) you cannot seriously that there is no compelling reason to not upgrade?! CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. Such as? Why would you want/need a programming language to cater for this and in what way? Do you mean more Ajax? More widgeta? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Neat error message
Again, (and I'm speaking without actual experience with CFC's or XML...) what does using a CFC or XML provide me that I need right now? Just a better way to manage data? (And, as a note in reference to the other post you made and my answer, Flash forms is an attempt to enhance user experience...) I believe all program developers (CF, ASP.NET, etc) will increasingly attempt to encapsulate within the languages more and more built-in functionality that addresses the user experience. Everyone's so heavy into that with AJAX, Flash, etc. I really do expect to see much more of this in CF 8...if so, I'm in... Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message To add You surely cannot think that CFC, XML etc are not a reason to upgrade?! I'm with you on Flash forms though... Total bollox :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Neat error message
Ultimately though, the presentation is just, in most cases going to be HTML/JS so ColdFusion shouldn't really be expected to provide this per se. The step up from non-Java ColdFusion is massive in terms of how it works under the hood and in terms of features and capabilities. CF7 just does things way, way better than 4.x/5. I can see your point in that at this stage your requirements are limited and CF4 etc meets them but that server is way outdated (even archaic) and that when a more advanced feature request comes about you could be without a paddle. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 21:35:12 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message What I'm saying is that all *I* see, and there is the emphasis on my understanding, which is limited to reading about later versions and watching this list, is that CF basically has advanced in its data handling capability. From what I can tell, the tools used are more capable, like CFC's, etc. (now remember, I've never even seen a CFC, so my perspective may be sadly lacking), but for my requirements, CF 4.5 does as good a job as CF 7. I'm much more concerned about creating more effective presentations of data than I am about how that data is retrieved or handled in the code. Now, remember, my sites are small up to this point, so I'm not handling a massive amount of transactions or churning a lot of data, where speed is of the essence. (and that assumes the CF 7 is always faster than 4.5, which per some conversations on this list, I read that it's not) But I'll put the question to you as well.. and I've asked this before... what are the reasons why I should spend $1300 to move from 4.5 to 7? What will I gain since 4.5 currently meets my data-handling requirements? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Apart from cost (and I know it's a thrashed out debate) you cannot seriously that there is no compelling reason to not upgrade?! CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. Such as? Why would you want/need a programming language to cater for this and in what way? Do you mean more Ajax? More widgeta? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still
Re: Neat error message
Maybe, but the double edge of that I ease of use and total lack of understanding of how, in that it's all fine and dandy adding a cfcool to your tag set but when you need to think and develop outside the box , the problems arise. I respect your stance, but I find it insane that you, as a programmer have not moved with the progress (even to be curious) not only of ColdFusion but of the internet dev style as a whole, as I noted before the step up to MX is massive (and I mean of how it all works and what you can do and in what way) and some of the stuff being generated now in CFMX is stunning for what we all know as CFML, way beyond the kindergarden CFWACK we all started out on! CF5 compared to MX is like a Lada to a Ferrari This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 21:42:06 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Again, (and I'm speaking without actual experience with CFC's or XML...) what does using a CFC or XML provide me that I need right now? Just a better way to manage data? (And, as a note in reference to the other post you made and my answer, Flash forms is an attempt to enhance user experience...) I believe all program developers (CF, ASP.NET, etc) will increasingly attempt to encapsulate within the languages more and more built-in functionality that addresses the user experience. Everyone's so heavy into that with AJAX, Flash, etc. I really do expect to see much more of this in CF 8...if so, I'm in... Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message To add You surely cannot think that CFC, XML etc are not a reason to upgrade?! I'm with you on Flash forms though... Total bollox :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive:
Re: Neat error message
Sorry, missed you Q! Well, why should spend it? In your case, there probably is no reason as you seem to be noting that your requirements are very basic, but I suppose the argument could also be why use ColdFusion at all? You may as well just stick with an old skool CGI technology, or even just flat HTML :-) I am not sure what your real world examples of your noted increased user experiences are though? If your talking about Ajax etc then why use ColdFusion? May as well roll your own using free bespoke tools for the job. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 21:35:12 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message What I'm saying is that all *I* see, and there is the emphasis on my understanding, which is limited to reading about later versions and watching this list, is that CF basically has advanced in its data handling capability. From what I can tell, the tools used are more capable, like CFC's, etc. (now remember, I've never even seen a CFC, so my perspective may be sadly lacking), but for my requirements, CF 4.5 does as good a job as CF 7. I'm much more concerned about creating more effective presentations of data than I am about how that data is retrieved or handled in the code. Now, remember, my sites are small up to this point, so I'm not handling a massive amount of transactions or churning a lot of data, where speed is of the essence. (and that assumes the CF 7 is always faster than 4.5, which per some conversations on this list, I read that it's not) But I'll put the question to you as well.. and I've asked this before... what are the reasons why I should spend $1300 to move from 4.5 to 7? What will I gain since 4.5 currently meets my data-handling requirements? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Apart from cost (and I know it's a thrashed out debate) you cannot seriously that there is no compelling reason to not upgrade?! CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. Such as? Why would you want/need a programming language to cater for this and in what way? Do you mean more Ajax? More widgeta? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list
Re: Neat error message
(I said find and replace about Macromedia because they're the ones who released CFMX 6, 6.1, and 7...) The guy is trying to use ImageCFC on a shared server at hostway. I'd be stunned if it was CF 5 or earlier. now... to Rick Faircloth... You're insane. Programming languages aren't about user interfaces - that's what HTML and Flash are for. Programming languages are about how you program. I don't use Flash Forms, and though I do use CFREPORT and CFDOCUMENT some, there's very little else in Coldfusion that helps me do UI stuff. That's all HTML and javascript. The problem with your point of view is that you aren't able to take advantage of the CODING features that make our lives as programmers easier. One of those things is CFCs. UDFs. XML capabilities. I had a phone conversation with some folks about a part time job telecommute opportunity about a week ago that showed up on cf-jobs. I was told initially that their software was compatible with CF 4.5 - CF7. Apparently, they don't use *ANY* functionality not available in CF 4.5 - no UDFs, no CFCs, nothing like that. He even said 95% of their clients are running on CFMX 6.1 or 7. I essentially told them that I had no problem maintaining existing 4.5 code, but if I was going to be asked to build new modules and new functionality, that I would absolutely want to do that using the modern conveniences of the CFML language, not the antiquated methods of 1998. I don't need extra money so much that I'm going to go back 7 years, because I'm just not interested in coding like that anymore. It's just plain foolish. At any rate, I haven't heard back from them after I explained my position. That's fine with me. I hope they find someone willing to do that kind of work. Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269428 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Neat error message
when a more advanced feature request comes about you could be without a paddle True, true... but mostly I develop for unsophisticated users who demand very little in terms of how a particular feature functions. I know I need to update soon, and would have already if Adobe had not made the upgrade unavailable to those with 4.5. But I know the world is changing and sooner or later I have to bring myself up to date... when a more advanced feature request comes What would an example of one of those be that I couldn't do with 4.5? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Ultimately though, the presentation is just, in most cases going to be HTML/JS so ColdFusion shouldn't really be expected to provide this per se. The step up from non-Java ColdFusion is massive in terms of how it works under the hood and in terms of features and capabilities. CF7 just does things way, way better than 4.x/5. I can see your point in that at this stage your requirements are limited and CF4 etc meets them but that server is way outdated (even archaic) and that when a more advanced feature request comes about you could be without a paddle. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269429 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Neat error message
Anything which requires a gateway Anything which requires a Web Service Anything which required you to code OO To mention a few... This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 22:19:30 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message when a more advanced feature request comes about you could be without a paddle True, true... but mostly I develop for unsophisticated users who demand very little in terms of how a particular feature functions. I know I need to update soon, and would have already if Adobe had not made the upgrade unavailable to those with 4.5. But I know the world is changing and sooner or later I have to bring myself up to date... when a more advanced feature request comes What would an example of one of those be that I couldn't do with 4.5? Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Ultimately though, the presentation is just, in most cases going to be HTML/JS so ColdFusion shouldn't really be expected to provide this per se. The step up from non-Java ColdFusion is massive in terms of how it works under the hood and in terms of features and capabilities. CF7 just does things way, way better than 4.x/5. I can see your point in that at this stage your requirements are limited and CF4 etc meets them but that server is way outdated (even archaic) and that when a more advanced feature request comes about you could be without a paddle. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269430 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Neat error message
Rick, you do real estate sites, correct? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to generate a pdf version of a home listing on the fly, that your real estate agent clients could print out, forward it to their prospective buyers etc. Of course you can print from the web browser, but non-techie folks (such as real estate agents) feel comfortable with pdfs. You can do that (and other cool things) quite easily using the cfdocument tag in CF7. I have found this to be indispensable in my current position. I would say this is an improvement in the user experience (at least an improvement in what your applications can offer to your clients). Even if they are not demanding, you could offer this service for an additional fee if you like, and put more money in your pocket. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: RE: Neat error message Again, (and I'm speaking without actual experience with CFC's or XML...) what does using a CFC or XML provide me that I need right now? Just a better way to manage data? (And, as a note in reference to the other post you made and my answer, Flash forms is an attempt to enhance user experience...) I believe all program developers (CF, ASP.NET, etc) will increasingly attempt to encapsulate within the languages more and more built-in functionality that addresses the user experience. Everyone's so heavy into that with AJAX, Flash, etc. I really do expect to see much more of this in CF 8...if so, I'm in... Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message To add You surely cannot think that CFC, XML etc are not a reason to upgrade?! I'm with you on Flash forms though... Total bollox :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 16:50:04 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Count me in! Still using 4.5 and the 4.0 WACK! There has been no compelling reason to update so far. (Not to start this whole debate again...) I'm waiting until CF includes built-in functionality that significantly addresses the user experience. I'm not looking to shave a few milliseconds off processing or to implement Flash forms or create pie charts. I'm getting more right now from implementing jQuery into my programming than I would if I deployed CF 7. I'm looking for more effective and engaging ways to present information, not just more effective ways of processing it. I have high hopes that CF 8 might finally address the user experience more significantly... we'll see. It's going cost me $1300 to get from CF 4.5 to CF 8, so it better be good. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Probably alot of people out there still using 4 4.5. I see it on the list quite often with questions like were upgrading to mx from 4.0, what can we expect? Kinda odd since my CF4 wack is dated 1998...Long time to wait :/ Doug B. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269431 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Need help searching for files in a directory
Thanks again for the help on this Gert! I've setup my output but I ran into something I'm not sure of the syntax on how to fix this. When passing the search criteria via my form variable, it only returns exact matches in case..here's what I have setup: cfdirectory action=LIST directory=D:\wwwsites\mysite\#ThisDir#\ name=qryResult filter=#ThisFilter# recurse=Yes cfquery name=getFile dbtype=query Select * from qryResult Where name Like '%#form.findThis#%' /cfquery I've tried to use ListFindNoCase but it doesn't seem to work, or at least not in the ways I've tried. Is there a way to handle what I'm after with it or is there some other approach I should be taking? Thanks again for all the help! Bob -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Need help searching for files in a directory Well since you qould try to use verity and verity does not index mp3 files for their content, I assume you are just looking for a filename. So what you can do is (assuming you have cfmx7): cfdirectory action=LIST directory=D:\multimedia name=qryResult filter=*.mp3 recurse=Yes cfquery name=getFile dbtype=query Select * from qryResult Where name Like '%Alanis%' /cfquery cfdump var=#getFile# Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie unserer Mailingliste bei: deutsch: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ Bob Imperial schrieb: I'm trying to figure out how to go about searching through a directory of mp3 files I have in a shared hosting environment so no verity. The search criteria would be passed via a form variable, so, I'm wondering if it's possible to use cfdirectory list and maybe dump the results into an array, then do loop through the array using listfindnocase on it to find the specific file?? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated, I've goggled it to death only to run into the verity avenue, which I can do locally, but alas, not in my shared hosting scenario. Thanks!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269432 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
CF5 compared to MX is like a Lada to a Ferrari First... Ferrari I get, but what is a Lada? Dictionary.com says it is a counter or bar, as in snack bar or a building in which grain is kept, as in barn. Is it a brand of vehicle? On to the point... What I have to be concerned with is the front end and the back end of everything I work on. I'm a one-man freelancer. Therefore I'm a designer and programmer. I build the interfaces that people use and write the code that makes the interfaces work. Yes, I'm curious about the advances and feel increasingly left out of the discussions (except as a curiosity to the rest of you :o) because of my ignorance, but I haven't been curious enough to spend $1300 to look behind the curtain, yet. Perhaps when CF 8 gets here there'll be enough attractions in the circus to pay the price of admission. Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Maybe, but the double edge of that I ease of use and total lack of understanding of how, in that it's all fine and dandy adding a cfcool to your tag set but when you need to think and develop outside the box , the problems arise. I respect your stance, but I find it insane that you, as a programmer have not moved with the progress (even to be curious) not only of ColdFusion but of the internet dev style as a whole, as I noted before the step up to MX is massive (and I mean of how it all works and what you can do and in what way) and some of the stuff being generated now in CFMX is stunning for what we all know as CFML, way beyond the kindergarden CFWACK we all started out on! CF5 compared to MX is like a Lada to a Ferrari ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
I wouldn't have a clue how to use old skool CGI technology and don't see how I could a dynamic, database-driven website with just HTML...never heard of bespoke tools either. However, I have now, since I googled for it and found their site... they use Flash... I hate designing with Flash... User experiences... yes, Ajax, etc. Starting to use jQuery. I haven't worked with Ajax, yet. I've looked into ASP.NET, but I dislike working with components, yet can't code it by hand. Basically, you need to understand that I have no background whatsoever in computer programming. Never took a computer course in all my years in college. I pickup up web design on my own as a personal and business interest, and Cold Fusion as a means to be able to create a means for clients to update their own content. It was intuitive for me. Later I began to use the automated email, etc., as enhancements to sites. I still get a lot of miles out of 4.5... But I must say, with the requests I'm getting for business applications, I would like to enhance usability with Ajax so the interfaces work more like traditional software. I'm using Javascript to enhance the interfaces, but would like the single-page data management that Ajax brings to the table. Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Sorry, missed you Q! Well, why should spend it? In your case, there probably is no reason as you seem to be noting that your requirements are very basic, but I suppose the argument could also be why use ColdFusion at all? You may as well just stick with an old skool CGI technology, or even just flat HTML :-) I am not sure what your real world examples of your noted increased user experiences are though? If your talking about Ajax etc then why use ColdFusion? May as well roll your own using free bespoke tools for the job. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
You're insane. You been talking with my wife? :o) Programming languages aren't about user interfaces True, but I'm watching the merging of UI tools and programming tools. You mentioned CFREPORT and CFDOCUMENT, and those are programming tags which help automate presentation. (I believe that would be a valid view). And what about CFGRID and CFCHART? Automated programming and presentation... Dreamweaver components attempt to automate the process of building interfaces while generating code for the backend. I'm watching the ASP.NET components merge UI creation and automate programming. (Although I hate using components because sooner or later I run into their limitations.) And, as I mentioned to Neil, tools like this make it easier for me to be productive in a language more quickly, because I have no formal training in any of the languages... I just observe what the components do, learn from them, and then write the code myself for more precision and control. I don't need extra money so much that I'm going to go back 7 years, because I'm just not interested in coding like that anymore. It's just plain foolish. And I hope that you are never in a position to need money that badly... it's not a fun place to be... I know from experience. You get hungry enough and you'll code any way you can to put food on the table. One of the biggest differences between me and a lot of you I guess, is that I don't work for a company and have to worry about keeping a resume up-to-date with skill sets. I own the company and do all the work for it. No demand for certain skill sets except to meet client expectations. But, as I've stated, it is time to move on up from 4.5... it's been good to me, but it's getting quite behind the times. Just waiting for CF 8... it'll be interesting to see how much more integration of programming and presentation there will be in CF 8. Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message (I said find and replace about Macromedia because they're the ones who released CFMX 6, 6.1, and 7...) The guy is trying to use ImageCFC on a shared server at hostway. I'd be stunned if it was CF 5 or earlier. now... to Rick Faircloth... You're insane. Programming languages aren't about user interfaces - that's what HTML and Flash are for. Programming languages are about how you program. I don't use Flash Forms, and though I do use CFREPORT and CFDOCUMENT some, there's very little else in Coldfusion that helps me do UI stuff. That's all HTML and javascript. The problem with your point of view is that you aren't able to take advantage of the CODING features that make our lives as programmers easier. One of those things is CFCs. UDFs. XML capabilities. I had a phone conversation with some folks about a part time job telecommute opportunity about a week ago that showed up on cf-jobs. I was told initially that their software was compatible with CF 4.5 - CF7. Apparently, they don't use *ANY* functionality not available in CF 4.5 - no UDFs, no CFCs, nothing like that. He even said 95% of their clients are running on CFMX 6.1 or 7. I essentially told them that I had no problem maintaining existing 4.5 code, but if I was going to be asked to build new modules and new functionality, that I would absolutely want to do that using the modern conveniences of the CFML language, not the antiquated methods of 1998. I don't need extra money so much that I'm going to go back 7 years, because I'm just not interested in coding like that anymore. It's just plain foolish. At any rate, I haven't heard back from them after I explained my position. That's fine with me. I hope they find someone willing to do that kind of work. Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Neat error message
Neither of which have I needed to this point. I'm sure the time will come when I will. But even when I move to CF8, I'll still probably code for awhile in much the same way I do now. It just takes time for me to integrate new programming techniques while trying to be productive. I don't get paid by someone for the time I spend learning. That one of the big downsides to working for myself. Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Anything which requires a gateway Anything which requires a Web Service Anything which required you to code OO To mention a few... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
You're right, Josh... I do a lot of work on Real Estate sites. And the CFDOCUMENT tag is one I drool over because of its generation of PDF's. That provides a big push towards upgrading. Rick -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Rick, you do real estate sites, correct? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to generate a pdf version of a home listing on the fly, that your real estate agent clients could print out, forward it to their prospective buyers etc. Of course you can print from the web browser, but non-techie folks (such as real estate agents) feel comfortable with pdfs. You can do that (and other cool things) quite easily using the cfdocument tag in CF7. I have found this to be indispensable in my current position. I would say this is an improvement in the user experience (at least an improvement in what your applications can offer to your clients). Even if they are not demanding, you could offer this service for an additional fee if you like, and put more money in your pocket. -- Josh ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269437 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: SQL Question
Jim, Yeah, I typoed. Sorry, worked with SQL Server a lot. I did mean a PL/SQL solution, however, I cannot write a PL/SQL function to utilize, so whatever SQL I use, it has to work inside a cfquery To my knowledge, Oracle doesn't have a right() function, and the sql provided didn't work in Oracle. Also, I could have extensions with any number of digits, so I'm not sure that will work anyway. Still looking for a solid solution. Thanks, Dave Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 10 14:30:57 2007 Received: from houseoffusion.com [64.118.74.249] by mail.bizbreeze.com with SMTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:30:57 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 4A591C6C01270B47B496A2614E792BB1 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:34:57 -0500 Subject: Re: SOT: SQL Question From: Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:34:11 -0500 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_None X-Rcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Jones wrote: select case left(right(path,4),1) when '.' then right(path,3) else '' end This will work on SQL Server (assuming all of your extensions are three characters), and possibly on Oracle(I think it now supports CASE). In your message you wanted a T-SQL solution, but said your database was Oracle. Did you mean to say a PL/SQL or possible just SQL solution? T-SQL is the proprietary version of SQL specific to Sybase and SQL Server. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269438 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Neat error message
I'd suggest that the way you are required to code now is probably slowing you down, especially when it comes to maintenance. For example, having every cfquery and every bit of business logic in a CFC (or a set of CFCs) makes it very easy to know where to look to change the functionality in the app. With cfquery tags all the way through a site, one change in a DB could mean having to open every file in the app to update it. It would take 5 minutes to learn the CFC syntax to get the benefits. And no, this doesn't make the user's experience better - it makes yours better. As for AJAX, you could easily used the pre-built CF libraries such as AjaxCFC, mxAjax etc without having to do all the custom coding to deal with the data, but these only work on CFMX. The native java intergration in CFMX has saved my butt more than once too. Regardless, it appears you will get what you want out of CF 8: Scorpio will allow ColdFusion developers to create richer, more engaging web applications http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Scorpio:FAQ#What_features_will_Scorpio_have.3F On 2/11/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither of which have I needed to this point. I'm sure the time will come when I will. But even when I move to CF8, I'll still probably code for awhile in much the same way I do now. It just takes time for me to integrate new programming techniques while trying to be productive. I don't get paid by someone for the time I spend learning. That one of the big downsides to working for myself. Rick -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Anything which requires a gateway Anything which requires a Web Service Anything which required you to code OO To mention a few... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269439 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: SQL Question
Actually you can write an anonymous PL/SQL block inside a cfquery tag. There's a bug wherein line returns will cause an error in the JDBC driver, so the block must be all on one line, but it will work. Anyway, SUBSTR() will work like a right() function when -1 is used as the starting position: http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96540/functions119a.htm And here's the CASE syntax for Oracle: http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96540/expressions5a.htm On 2/11/07, Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Yeah, I typoed. Sorry, worked with SQL Server a lot. I did mean a PL/SQL solution, however, I cannot write a PL/SQL function to utilize, so whatever SQL I use, it has to work inside a cfquery To my knowledge, Oracle doesn't have a right() function, and the sql provided didn't work in Oracle. Also, I could have extensions with any number of digits, so I'm not sure that will work anyway. Still looking for a solid solution. Kris Jones wrote: select case left(right(path,4),1) when '.' then right(path,3) else '' end This will work on SQL Server (assuming all of your extensions are three characters), and possibly on Oracle(I think it now supports CASE). In your message you wanted a T-SQL solution, but said your database was Oracle. Did you mean to say a PL/SQL or possible just SQL solution? T-SQL is the proprietary version of SQL specific to Sybase and SQL Server. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269440 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Need help searching for files in a directory
QofQ is case sensitive. So if you search for name LIKE '%Alanis%', it is NOT the same as searching for '%alanis%', or '%aLaNiS%'. The force it to be case-INsensitive, use a couple of functions: SELECT * FROM qryResult WHERE lower(name) LIKE '%#lCase(form.findThis)#%' Hope that helps. On 2/10/07, Bob Imperial [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again for the help on this Gert! I've setup my output but I ran into something I'm not sure of the syntax on how to fix this. When passing the search criteria via my form variable, it only returns exact matches in case..here's what I have setup: cfdirectory action=LIST directory=D:\wwwsites\mysite\#ThisDir#\ name=qryResult filter=#ThisFilter# recurse=Yes cfquery name=getFile dbtype=query Select * from qryResult Where name Like '%#form.findThis#%' /cfquery ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269441 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Neat error message
Sounds good... thanks for the info, James! Rick -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message I'd suggest that the way you are required to code now is probably slowing you down, especially when it comes to maintenance. For example, having every cfquery and every bit of business logic in a CFC (or a set of CFCs) makes it very easy to know where to look to change the functionality in the app. With cfquery tags all the way through a site, one change in a DB could mean having to open every file in the app to update it. It would take 5 minutes to learn the CFC syntax to get the benefits. And no, this doesn't make the user's experience better - it makes yours better. As for AJAX, you could easily used the pre-built CF libraries such as AjaxCFC, mxAjax etc without having to do all the custom coding to deal with the data, but these only work on CFMX. The native java intergration in CFMX has saved my butt more than once too. Regardless, it appears you will get what you want out of CF 8: Scorpio will allow ColdFusion developers to create richer, more engaging web applications http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Scorpio:FAQ#What_features_will_Scorpio_ have.3F ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269442 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Need help searching for files in a directory
Thanks Matt...this covers the two possibilities of upper and lower case .. Select * from qryResult Where lower(name) Like '%#form.findThis#%' OR upper(name) Like '%#form.findThis#%' I guess maybe I should address the other possibilities by eliminating the uploading of mixed case names on the front end via javascript ;-) Thanks again!! Bob -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Need help searching for files in a directory QofQ is case sensitive. So if you search for name LIKE '%Alanis%', it is NOT the same as searching for '%alanis%', or '%aLaNiS%'. The force it to be case-INsensitive, use a couple of functions: SELECT * FROM qryResult WHERE lower(name) LIKE '%#lCase(form.findThis)#%' Hope that helps. On 2/10/07, Bob Imperial [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again for the help on this Gert! I've setup my output but I ran into something I'm not sure of the syntax on how to fix this. When passing the search criteria via my form variable, it only returns exact matches in case..here's what I have setup: cfdirectory action=LIST directory=D:\wwwsites\mysite\#ThisDir#\ name=qryResult filter=#ThisFilter# recurse=Yes cfquery name=getFile dbtype=query Select * from qryResult Where name Like '%#form.findThis#%' /cfquery ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269443 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Need help searching for files in a directory
No need for that. If you look at my example, you'll see that I used lCase() ColdFusion function to make sure that the form value was in lower case as well. So it covers it all. On 2/10/07, Bob Imperial [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Matt...this covers the two possibilities of upper and lower case .. Select * from qryResult Where lower(name) Like '%#form.findThis#%' OR upper(name) Like '%#form.findThis#%' I guess maybe I should address the other possibilities by eliminating the uploading of mixed case names on the front end via javascript ;-) Thanks again!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269444 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Need help searching for files in a directory
Ahhh so am I understanding this correctly, it converts it to lower case before it actually sends the request to the db? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Need help searching for files in a directory No need for that. If you look at my example, you'll see that I used lCase() ColdFusion function to make sure that the form value was in lower case as well. So it covers it all. On 2/10/07, Bob Imperial [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Matt...this covers the two possibilities of upper and lower case .. Select * from qryResult Where lower(name) Like '%#form.findThis#%' OR upper(name) Like '%#form.findThis#%' I guess maybe I should address the other possibilities by eliminating the uploading of mixed case names on the front end via javascript ;-) Thanks again!! Bob ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269445 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
js to cfscript ?
how would you put the following into cfscript? document.write(screen.width); thanks! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269446 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: js to cfscript ?
how would you put the following into cfscript? document.write(screen.width); You can't directly, because CF doesn't have access to the JS DOM, and therefore cannot detect the screen width of the browser. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269447 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Neat error message
I am suprised then that you are not wanting to use web services as well (unless the sites are for local and small shops) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Feb 10 23:43:20 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message You're right, Josh... I do a lot of work on Real Estate sites. And the CFDOCUMENT tag is one I drool over because of its generation of PDF's. That provides a big push towards upgrading. Rick -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message Rick, you do real estate sites, correct? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to generate a pdf version of a home listing on the fly, that your real estate agent clients could print out, forward it to their prospective buyers etc. Of course you can print from the web browser, but non-techie folks (such as real estate agents) feel comfortable with pdfs. You can do that (and other cool things) quite easily using the cfdocument tag in CF7. I have found this to be indispensable in my current position. I would say this is an improvement in the user experience (at least an improvement in what your applications can offer to your clients). Even if they are not demanding, you could offer this service for an additional fee if you like, and put more money in your pocket. -- Josh ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269448 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: js to cfscript ?
hum, so just stuck with js version thanks dave how would you put the following into cfscript? document.write(screen.width); You can't directly, because CF doesn't have access to the JS DOM, and therefore cannot detect the screen width of the browser. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269449 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Neat error message
Regardless, I would suggest you install CF7 locally to play with alongside youé 4.5/5 install and start to learnd/look at CFCs etc and the way CFMX apps are built as in the most part they are very different, you don't want to move to 8 just for some widget only to find that you haven't got a clue how it works or how samples are put together. I would also getting a good book on Ajax to actually understand how to get more of our vanilla Ajax as you can bet that an Adobe offerening will be Spry based (which you can download now but may require MX I am not sure) and that it will not do everything you expect out of the box from day 1. You are playing catchup for sure.. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth To: CF-Talk Sent: Sun Feb 11 04:06:58 2007 Subject: RE: Neat error message Sounds good... thanks for the info, James! Rick -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Neat error message I'd suggest that the way you are required to code now is probably slowing you down, especially when it comes to maintenance. For example, having every cfquery and every bit of business logic in a CFC (or a set of CFCs) makes it very easy to know where to look to change the functionality in the app. With cfquery tags all the way through a site, one change in a DB could mean having to open every file in the app to update it. It would take 5 minutes to learn the CFC syntax to get the benefits. And no, this doesn't make the user's experience better - it makes yours better. As for AJAX, you could easily used the pre-built CF libraries such as AjaxCFC, mxAjax etc without having to do all the custom coding to deal with the data, but these only work on CFMX. The native java intergration in CFMX has saved my butt more than once too. Regardless, it appears you will get what you want out of CF 8: Scorpio will allow ColdFusion developers to create richer, more engaging web applications http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Scorpio:FAQ#What_features_will_Scorpio_ have.3F ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269450 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Need help searching for files in a directory
Well, it's not actually sending to a database in this particular query; it's querying a previous query. But yes, the CF function will process before making the query request, thereby converting the form var to lower case. Then by using the SQL lower() function on the column that you're querying, it also will be in lower case. On 2/11/07, Bob Imperial [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh so am I understanding this correctly, it converts it to lower case before it actually sends the request to the db? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269451 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
