*From: *"Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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*Cc: *"Neil Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:54:23 AM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-Lis
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Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
When I replaced my halards (main and headsail) I used the same wire rope combo
that was original with the boat.
I race lightly, and cruise. Definitely it was the cheapest option. My rigger
had indicated that a good inspection of the shea
Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:54:23 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
Jim,
This shows the main halyard on the starboard side. That's just a messenger line
in it, but you can see the lead. You can also see that some PO put another lead
Grenadine came with mainsail halyard and spinnaker pole topping lift exiting
the mast on the starboard side, and two headsail halyards exiting the mast on
the port side, plus the spinnaker halyard (external to the mast) cleating on
the port side of the mast.
I switched the mainsail halyard and
In my experience headsail halyards are led on the port side and main on the
starboard. On SLY we carry just three headsail halyards configured as one jib
and two spinnaker. When changing jibs we use one of the spin halyards and back
to the jib if we need to change headsails again. This all
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards
Interesting. Never thought one of those old 90 degree exit blocks would rip
out but there's proof.
Here's some more thoughts on re-configuring running rigging.
While I did mention that as part
n via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:47 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Joel Aronson
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
>>
>> Josh,
>>
>> Just need a $20,000 main!
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>> On Tu
know.
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:47 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List new haylards
>
> Josh,
>
> Just need a $
I ordered a new main for next year – not $20,000, however. I’ll let you know.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
Josh,
Just need a $20,000 main!
Joel
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017
via
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:44 AM
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Cc: Randy Stafford
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards
I thought “sweating” was another word for that. One crew member “sweats” the
halyard while another crew member
op of the mast is over 50 feet, so some stretch is to be expected.
> When the current halyard is retired, I will replace it with something that
> is really low stretch, and may possibly go back to wire-to-rope.
>
> MLW
>
> *From:* Jim via CnC-List <cn
with something that
> is really low stretch, and may possibly go back to wire-to-rope.
>
> MLW
>
> *From:* Jim via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2017 10:05 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* j...@mymts.net
> *Subject:*
I thought “sweating” was another word for that. One crew member “sweats” the
halyard while another crew member tails it.
Cheers,
Randy
> On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Jump. Probably a better term. Maybe we just use the Hispanic
Jump. Probably a better term. Maybe we just use the Hispanic
pronunciation. :)
Dennis C.
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Nice blocks. We "jump" halyards up North. And 30 years olds don't date
> teenagers. :)
>
>
Dennis,
Nice blocks. We "jump" halyards up North. And 30 years olds don't date
teenagers. :)
Joel
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Interesting. Never thought one of those old 90 degree exit blocks would
> rip out but there's proof.
ally low stretch, and may possibly go back to wire-to-rope.
MLW
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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List new haylards
Neil
If you
_
Interesting. Never thought one of those old 90 degree exit blocks would
rip out but there's proof.
Here's some more thoughts on re-configuring running rigging.
While I did mention that as part of Touche' running rigging reconfiguration
I'd removed the two 90 degree exit sheave blocks at the
Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:59:43 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
Jim,
I replaced the original wire/rope halyards a few years ago, using 3/8 Sta Set
for both main and jib. Didn't do anything regarding the masthead sheave, and
it's been ok.
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*Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:59:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylard
ay, December 10, 2017 2:59:43 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
Jim,
I replaced the original wire/rope halyards a few years ago, using 3/8 Sta Set
for both main and jib. Didn't do anything regarding the masthead sheave, and
it's been ok. I cruise mostly, as for racing my sails are so blown out
30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
nnis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
With cover, 8mm would be my thought. To go smaller, I'd consider stripped
Dyneema. Maybe 1/4 inch.
Dennis C.
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Jim via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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*Cc: *"Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:27:40 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylards
James,
I have looked at Touche's main halyard masthead sheave and box with a
;
> *Cc: *"Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:27:40 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylards
>
> James,
>
> I have looked at Touche's main halyard masthead sheave and box with an eye
> to replace the existing wire
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Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:27:40 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
James,
I have looked at Touche's main halyard masthead sheave and box with an eye to
replace the existing wire/rope halyard with
I ordered from Cajun Rope to replace all the running rigging on my beach
cat. Satisfied.
On another note, I've been helping a buddy of mine refurbish his Hans
Christian 38. In thanks for the help, he got Touche' some nice custom dock
lines from Cajun Rope. He said they were good to deal with
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> *Cc: *"Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:50:08 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylards
>
>
> Since everyone was expecting me to reply to
+1 on the Cajun Rope suggestion. They have packages available for many boats,
including our older C, with cut-to length cordage. Their workmanship and
customer service are both outstanding, and their costs are great, too. I
highly recommend them. All my lines came whipped on the ends, with
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Cc: "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:50:08 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards
Since everyone was expecting me to reply to this one anyway— I’m also very
happy with Warpspeed. :-)
If yo
Since everyone was expecting me to reply to this one anyway— I’m also very
happy with Warpspeed. :-)
If you are going to race your boat, you’re going to want the best no-stretch
stuff out there. If you’re a cruiser, you’re going to be happy with much less
expensive line like StaSet or StaSetX.
I switched to all rope, got rid of the wire. No problems with the sheaves,
but keep the line diameter small, as there is little room on the forward
side of the mast between the sheave and the tab to which the forestay is
attached. I reversed the clevis pin to make more room. I tried 11mm VPC, but
Consider the PS article in the link below. I've been very happy with Yale
Crystaline and Sampson Warpspeed.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ySGpOTUdGRW9xdzQ
Also consider the excerpt (source unknown) below:
I was taught (by an English race crew) that Mainsail controls are
Nobody yet has mentioned the “sensible” and cost effective Canadian approach to
buying halyards, Novabraid!
Pre-made halyards can be bought through Cajun Rope in Yarmouth, NS featuring
Novabraid XLE which compares well to Sta-set or Samson XLS. For an alternative
to VPC or MLX, both of which
When I replaced the furling headsail on my 30mk1 a few years ago, Brad at
Doyle Sails in Halifax recommended using 3/8 Bora from Stright-MacKay for a
halyard. I'm happy with it.
I just pulled the old wire/rope main halyard out of the mast this fall and
ordered a new rope halyard from Cajun Ropes
If you want to go the performance route, race your boat and spend more $ and if
your sheeves allow it has previously stated, You can go full dyneema.
In this range I have Samson MLX for jib halyard and Cousin Dyneestar for main.
Comparing the two I prefer the Cousin product, have not compared
When I replaced my halards (main and headsail) I used the same wire rope
combo that was original with the boat.
I race lightly, and cruise. Definitely it was the cheapest option. My
rigger had indicated that a good inspection of the sheaves at the
crane should be done if going to an all rope
Tom,
The first time I redid the rigging I used Sta-Set X which was great in terms of
low stretch but I/we just didn’t like the “hand”. It was just a bit too stiff.
I’m assuming Sta-Set should be a bit easier to handle.
I’m going with VPC halyards and Sta-Set control lines on the new rig.
Tom,
I replaced all of my halyards with New England VPC. It is a blended rope
with a dacron cover and a vectran core and the cost is only slightly
higher than Sta-Set. The advantage is that you get a low stretch halyard
that has very little creep(elongation over time).
James
Delaney
C 38
Stay set should be fine for your purposes. It is low stretch Dacron and much
less expensive than the Dyneema I'd recommend if you were racing.
Andy
C 40
Peregrine
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