Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-14 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
*From: *"Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc: *"Neil Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:54:23 AM *Subject: *Re: Stus-Lis

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-14 Thread Jim via CnC-List
17 7:35:26 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards When I replaced my halards (main and headsail) I used the same wire rope combo that was original with the boat. I race lightly, and cruise. Definitely it was the cheapest option. My rigger had indicated that a good inspection of the shea

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-14 Thread Jim via CnC-List
Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:54:23 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards Jim, This shows the main halyard on the starboard side. That's just a messenger line in it, but you can see the lead. You can also see that some PO put another lead

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Grenadine came with mainsail halyard and spinnaker pole topping lift exiting the mast on the starboard side, and two headsail halyards exiting the mast on the port side, plus the spinnaker halyard (external to the mast) cleating on the port side of the mast. I switched the mainsail halyard and

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread David Kaseler via CnC-List
In my experience headsail halyards are led on the port side and main on the starboard. On SLY we carry just three headsail halyards configured as one jib and two spinnaker. When changing jibs we use one of the spin halyards and back to the jib if we need to change headsails again. This all

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards Interesting. Never thought one of those old 90 degree exit blocks would rip out but there's proof. Here's some more thoughts on re-configuring running rigging. While I did mention that as part

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
n via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:47 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: Joel Aronson >> Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards >> >> Josh, >> >> Just need a $20,000 main! >> >> Joel >> >>> On Tu

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
know. > > *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:47 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List new haylards > > Josh, > > Just need a $

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I ordered a new main for next year – not $20,000, however. I’ll let you know. From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards Josh, Just need a $20,000 main! Joel On Tue, Dec 12, 2017

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread David via CnC-List
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:44 AM To: cnc-list Cc: Randy Stafford Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards I thought “sweating” was another word for that. One crew member “sweats” the halyard while another crew member

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
op of the mast is over 50 feet, so some stretch is to be expected. > When the current halyard is retired, I will replace it with something that > is really low stretch, and may possibly go back to wire-to-rope. > > MLW > > *From:* Jim via CnC-List <cn

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
with something that > is really low stretch, and may possibly go back to wire-to-rope. > > MLW > > *From:* Jim via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2017 10:05 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* j...@mymts.net > *Subject:*

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
I thought “sweating” was another word for that. One crew member “sweats” the halyard while another crew member tails it. Cheers, Randy > On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Jump. Probably a better term. Maybe we just use the Hispanic

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Jump. Probably a better term. Maybe we just use the Hispanic pronunciation. :) Dennis C. On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dennis, > > Nice blocks. We "jump" halyards up North. And 30 years olds don't date > teenagers. :) > >

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Dennis, Nice blocks. We "jump" halyards up North. And 30 years olds don't date teenagers. :) Joel On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Interesting. Never thought one of those old 90 degree exit blocks would > rip out but there's proof.

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
ally low stretch, and may possibly go back to wire-to-rope. MLW *From:* Jim via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2017 10:05 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* j...@mymts.net *Subject:* Re: Stus-List new haylards Neil If you _

Re: Stus-List new haylards - now re-configuring halyards

2017-12-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Interesting. Never thought one of those old 90 degree exit blocks would rip out but there's proof. Here's some more thoughts on re-configuring running rigging. While I did mention that as part of Touche' running rigging reconfiguration I'd removed the two 90 degree exit sheave blocks at the

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:59:43 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards Jim, I replaced the original wire/rope halyards a few years ago, using 3/8 Sta Set for both main and jib. Didn't do anything regarding the masthead sheave, and it's been ok.

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-12 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
*From: *"Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc: *"Neil Gallagher" <njgallag...@optonline.net> *Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:59:43 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylard

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-11 Thread Jim via CnC-List
ay, December 10, 2017 2:59:43 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards Jim, I replaced the original wire/rope halyards a few years ago, using 3/8 Sta Set for both main and jib. Didn't do anything regarding the masthead sheave, and it's been ok. I cruise mostly, as for racing my sails are so blown out

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread T power via CnC-List
30 MK1 Fredericton, NB From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Nauset Beach via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 7:37:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Nauset Beach Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
nnis C. <capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards With cover, 8mm would be my thought. To go smaller, I'd consider stripped Dyneema. Maybe 1/4 inch. Dennis C. On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Jim via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
;cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *To: *"CnClist" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Cc: *"Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> *Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:27:40 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylards James, I have looked at Touche's main halyard masthead sheave and box with a

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
; > *Cc: *"Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:27:40 PM > > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylards > > James, > > I have looked at Touche's main halyard masthead sheave and box with an eye > to replace the existing wire

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Jim via CnC-List
ot; <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:27:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards James, I have looked at Touche's main halyard masthead sheave and box with an eye to replace the existing wire/rope halyard with

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I ordered from Cajun Rope to replace all the running rigging on my beach cat. Satisfied. On another note, I've been helping a buddy of mine refurbish his Hans Christian 38. In thanks for the help, he got Touche' some nice custom dock lines from Cajun Rope. He said they were good to deal with

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
lay via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc: *"Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com> > *Sent: *Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:50:08 AM > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List new haylards > > > Since everyone was expecting me to reply to

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
+1 on the Cajun Rope suggestion. They have packages available for many boats, including our older C, with cut-to length cordage. Their workmanship and customer service are both outstanding, and their costs are great, too. I highly recommend them. All my lines came whipped on the ends, with

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Jim via CnC-List
-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:50:08 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List new haylards Since everyone was expecting me to reply to this one anyway— I’m also very happy with Warpspeed. :-) If yo

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Since everyone was expecting me to reply to this one anyway— I’m also very happy with Warpspeed. :-) If you are going to race your boat, you’re going to want the best no-stretch stuff out there. If you’re a cruiser, you’re going to be happy with much less expensive line like StaSet or StaSetX.

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I switched to all rope, got rid of the wire. No problems with the sheaves, but keep the line diameter small, as there is little room on the forward side of the mast between the sheave and the tab to which the forestay is attached. I reversed the clevis pin to make more room. I tried 11mm VPC, but

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Consider the PS article in the link below. I've been very happy with Yale Crystaline and Sampson Warpspeed. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ySGpOTUdGRW9xdzQ Also consider the excerpt (source unknown) below: I was taught (by an English race crew) that Mainsail controls are

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Nobody yet has mentioned the “sensible” and cost effective Canadian approach to buying halyards, Novabraid! Pre-made halyards can be bought through Cajun Rope in Yarmouth, NS featuring Novabraid XLE which compares well to Sta-set or Samson XLS. For an alternative to VPC or MLX, both of which

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Tortuga via CnC-List
When I replaced the furling headsail on my 30mk1 a few years ago, Brad at Doyle Sails in Halifax recommended using 3/8 Bora from Stright-MacKay for a halyard. I'm happy with it. I just pulled the old wire/rope main halyard out of the mast this fall and ordered a new rope halyard from Cajun Ropes

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
If you want to go the performance route, race your boat and spend more $ and if your sheeves allow it has previously stated, You can go full dyneema. In this range I have Samson MLX for jib halyard and Cousin Dyneestar for main. Comparing the two I prefer the Cousin product, have not compared

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
When I replaced my halards (main and headsail) I used the same wire rope combo that was original with the boat. I race lightly, and cruise.  Definitely it was the cheapest option.  My rigger had indicated that a good inspection of the sheaves at the crane should be done if going to an all rope

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Tom, The first time I redid the rigging I used Sta-Set X which was great in terms of low stretch but I/we just didn’t like the “hand”. It was just a bit too stiff. I’m assuming Sta-Set should be a bit easier to handle. I’m going with VPC halyards and Sta-Set control lines on the new rig.

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread james via CnC-List
Tom, I replaced all of my halyards with New England VPC. It is a blended rope with a dacron cover and a vectran core and the cost is only slightly higher than Sta-Set. The advantage is that you get a low stretch halyard that has very little creep(elongation over time). James Delaney C 38

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Stay set should be fine for your purposes. It is low stretch Dacron and much less expensive than the Dyneema I'd recommend if you were racing. Andy C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 >