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> Betreff: Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org - issues redux
>
> OK, I'm trying vainly to keep up with community, and while there isn&#
OK, I'm trying vainly to keep up with community, and while there isn't
necessarily a clear consensus, there are a lot of good ideas (and it
seems quite polite disagreement).
Sorry I don't have the brainwidth right now for concrete, specific
proposals, but here are my take on some larger issues: AS
Daniel Rall wrote:
Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
Alternatively..
Let's abandon all this wishy-washy 'community' guff and focus on what
matters: the code. As Coding Machines, I say each new committer be
assigned a serial number by which they are addressed publicly. With
luck, we c
Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
> Alternatively..
>
> Let's abandon all this wishy-washy 'community' guff and focus on what
> matters: the code. As Coding Machines, I say each new committer be
> assigned a serial number by which they are addressed publicly. With
> luck, we can elimin
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Now, I wonder: why don't we use the 'community' CVS repository for
personal pages? (or create another "community-pages" repository)
what do you think?
In general, it seems to me that an ASF wide repository is less likely to
be actively monitored, maintained, and policed
Aaron Bannert wrote:
As Justin pointed out, we get automatic oversight right now when someone
makes a change to a project website, including the contributor listings.
This works very well for code commits, so whatever we come up with should
probably have the same level of oversight.
Justin has a ve
On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 12:55 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
[long quote omitted]
Please refrain from copying every line of a post in your reply.
It is best to only quote what you are replying to.
-aaron
Aaron Bannert wrote:
To me it seems we are trying to solve two problems here:
1) A place to put homepages and personal content, including
(but not limited to) ASF-related activities and project proposals,
as well as individual interests.
2) A catalog of the people representing the ASF "commun
ROUS wrote:
> "Noel J. Bergman" wrote:
> > It occurs to me that if people want to guide the content of
> > the ASF hosted "personal" page, there could be a DTD, and the
> > pages could be generated from an XML file using a consistent look
> ugh, ick. :-) that's pretty impersonal for a 'personal'
To me it seems we are trying to solve two problems here:
1) A place to put homepages and personal content, including
(but not limited to) ASF-related activities and project proposals,
as well as individual interests.
2) A catalog of the people representing the ASF "community".
IMO the only ti
> > As a new committer, I not only appreciate that view, I want to
> > know where to find the info! :-)
> keep an eye on incubator.apache.org
Will do. Will there be a reference to it from
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html?
--- Noel
"Noel J. Bergman" wrote:
>
> As a new committer, I not only appreciate that view, I want to
> know where to find the info! :-)
keep an eye on incubator.apache.org
"Noel J. Bergman" wrote:
>
> It occurs to me that if people want to guide the content of
> the ASF hosted "personal" page, there could be a DTD, and the
> pages could be generated from an XML file using a consistent look
ugh, ick. :-) that's pretty impersonal for a 'personal' page.
not for me,
ROUS wrote:
> uniform education of (new) committers is one of the purposes of the
incubator
> project. documenting these things for all, including existing committers,
> is as well.
As a new committer, I not only appreciate that view, I want to know where to
find the info! :-)
--- Noel
> Justin, if you would like to put forward a set of rules,
> guidelines, and suggest an enforcement mechanism, I would be
> inclined to endorse it if it would further consensus.
It occurs to me that if people want to guide the content of the ASF hosted
"personal" page, there could be a DTD, and th
>Ben Hyde wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > One that it doesn't address is Ben Hyde's view that that the
> > chaotic "mess", where there are committers who don't even know
> > that they can create a public_html, much less feel encouraged to do
so...
> I recall somebody having some view along
Sander Striker wrote:
>
> > I agree with Nicola Ken. We *are* talking about different things.
> > Stefano proposed a short bio, picture, etc. (Although, to date I have
> > not had a significant problem with people mispronouncing my name). You
> > are objecting to Beanie Babies. If it will help
Sander Striker wrote:
>
> My point is that quite a number of people won't have the time
> (or inclination) to do so. And because they don't, they aren't
> listed*.
:
> Currently the list (auto created) on Kens page holds about
> 40 committers. How many committers do we have in total?
> S
> From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 02 December 2002 16:56
> Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> > --On Monday, December 2, 2002 8:39 AM +0100 Nicola Ken Barozzi
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think we are talking about complete personal websites with
> >> blogs and such,
> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 22:49
>> Sander Striker wrote:
>> Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and certainly
>> not promoted. Creating the dns entry will seem like promoting the use
>> of the homepages.
>
> Yes, that's exactl
> From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 22:23
> Sander Striker wrote:
>> Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are
>> represented
>> on there.
>
> Here is an effort that I made last year http://cvs.apache.org/~rubys/
>
> Here is much move vis
--On Monday, December 2, 2002 10:56 AM -0500 Sam Ruby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Justin, if you would like to put forward a set of rules,
guidelines, and suggest an enforcement mechanism, I would be
inclined to endorse it if it would further consensus.
As I have said before, what I would prefer i
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Monday, December 2, 2002 8:39 AM +0100 Nicola Ken Barozzi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think we are talking about complete personal websites with
blogs and such, with rants and honeymoon pictures, but about some
pages that explain what the person does, who he i
Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --On Monday, December 2, 2002 8:39 AM +0100 Nicola Ken Barozzi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think we are talking about complete personal websites with
> > blogs and such, with rants and honeymoon pictures, but about some
> > pages tha
--On Monday, December 2, 2002 8:39 AM +0100 Nicola Ken Barozzi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think we are talking about complete personal websites with
blogs and such, with rants and honeymoon pictures, but about some
pages that explain what the person does, who he is, and not much
more.
Of
Aaron Bannert wrote:
That is a noble goal, and I support this goal, although I do not think
that an organized soapbox is the right way to do this. The short little
"here's the link to my homepage, oh and I work on this and that project"
pages are great. Anything other than that is off limits in my
May I continue to point out that we are WAY off topic. The issue at
hand is the creation of a DNS alias. The homepage thing
is already in place.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Yet, a personal web site is just that - personal. It's purposely not
part of the ASF community.
That is a noble goal, and I support this goal, although I do not think
that an organized soapbox is the right way to do this. The short little
"here's the link to my homepage, oh and I work on this and that project"
pages are great. Anything other than that is off limits in my book.
No one has pro
On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 02:39 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
One that it
doesn't address is Ben Hyde's view that that the chaotic "mess", where
there
are committers who don't even know that they can create a public_html,
much
less feel encouraged to do so...
I recall somebody having some vie
"Noel J. Bergman" wrote:
>
> One that it doesn't address is Ben Hyde's view that that the chaotic "mess",
> where there are committers who don't even know that they can create a
> public_html, much less feel encouraged to do so
uniform education of (new) committers is one of the purposes of the i
According to Stefano Mazzocchi:
> I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web
> site.
+1, but I'd prefer a shorter name like 'home.apache.org' or 'people.apache.org'.
> I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that all
> apache homepages will be
According to Thom May:
> > I've make a dream :
> >
> > http://name.apache.org/
> >
> ew. --1
> This just creates more totally unnecessary work for root.
Well, just do a wildcard DNS entry for something like *.home.apache.org
and together with some mod_rewrite magic there isn't much
It has been implied by those who contribute massive amounts
of their time to maintain our systems, that as soon as
a secure and manageable system for revision control
comes along that does not require local accounts
(like subversion), then they will stop creating
login accounts and might possibly s
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 01:39 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Our mission. Creating great software. Puzzling out how to do that
productively in cooperative volunteer teams. Releasing that widely
under a license that is both open. Crafting an effective open
license.
One that doesn't entra
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 01:28 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
I think you're missing the point here. Regardless of the verbiage
used, if this whole community thing comes to fruition, it becomes a de
facto representation of the face of the Apache community.
FWIW, I'm -1 on the whole thing. I
Aaron Bannert wrote:
In the future not everyone will have an account on cvs.apache.org either.
Could you elaborate on this?
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://rad
Sam Ruby wrote:
> The ASF has supportted .forward files for e-mail for quite some time.
> Would the mere act of putting a one line .forward file into your
> ~/public_html directory with your favorite URL be OK?
A bit more work for httpd than your "~name/public_html/community or some
such" proposal
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Yet, a personal web site is just that - personal. It's purposely not
part of the ASF community. There's no oversight. Therefore, I question
what benefit can be gained by endorsing personal web sites hosted on the
ASF infrastructure. -- justin
I don't think we are tal
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 12:34 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Dear ASF citizens,
I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org' web
site.
Currently, some people have their apache homepage on
www.apache.org/~name and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't
have
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 7:23 PM -0800 Stefano Mazzocchi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are 450 people with commit access. Each one of them can put
something in our servers that can screw the ASF, including web
sites.
Why is this any different?
Because of community oversight. There are no
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 8:25 PM -0500 "Andrew C. Oliver"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So Sam Ruby is the ECMA conveiner for the .NET CLI.. I propose
(since its well known) that he's an apache committer and the PMC
chair of Jakarta that he be told he can't do that any
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
The foundation is responsible for everything on our servers. I don't
care for it to be associated with *personal* views. Go find a different
soapbox to stand on top of. Your contributions to the ASF don't merit
you getting a personal bully pulpit. -- justin
There are
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 8:25 PM -0500 "Andrew C. Oliver"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So Sam Ruby is the ECMA conveiner for the .NET CLI.. I propose
(since its well known) that he's an apache committer and the PMC
chair of Jakarta that he be told he can't do that anymore.
Ugh! No, you are m
David Reid wrote:
>
> > 1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
> >
> > +1
>
> They've traditionally been used for patches and so with seemed like a good
> use. For personal information I'm inclined to disagree that it's a valid or
> even desirable use.
then we di
James Cox wrote:
You have a corporate viewpoint of how Apache's relationship with Sun
should be managed. I tend to think letting them know is fine. (Somehow
any explanation of this would probably start sounding like the cluetrain
manifesto...which I never read because it was too long winded, b
> On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:01 PM, Ben Hyde wrote:
> > I've attempted to enumerate some of my concerns ..
>
> I'm done. - ben
I find myself (sadly) once again agreeing with you...
david
James Cox wrote:
Not meaning to pick on you Andrew but this comment really made me feel i had
to respond.
Sun has a long standing relationship with the ASF, one that has taken alot
of time to build, as well as contributed alot either way with regards to
both code and community development. I would
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:01 PM, Ben Hyde wrote:
I've attempted to enumerate some of my concerns ..
I'm done. - ben
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The ASF I wish to be a part of is one and/or create is one that
> > tolerates differences in points of view or approach to solving
> > problems.
>
> +1 - These are the words of wisdom and they are delicious.
+1 as well. IMO it's a well-in
The ASF I wish to be a part of is one and/or create is one that
tolerates differences in points of view or approach to solving problems.
+1 - These are the words of wisdom and they are delicious. Thank you sam.
- Sam Ruby
-
To
> You have a corporate viewpoint of how Apache's relationship with Sun
> should be managed. I tend to think letting them know is fine. (Somehow
> any explanation of this would probably start sounding like the cluetrain
> manifesto...which I never read because it was too long winded, but
> whate
Right, well the home pages are there now. And right now they are more
closely associated with Apache itself than community.apache.org would.
You're bringing up a new issue as to whether they should be taken away.
The matter at hand is the creation of a new alias to in a way make them
more asso
Sam Ruby wrote:
The ASF I wish to be a part of is one and/or create is one that
tolerates differences in points of view or approach to solving problems.
Amen.
--
Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David Reid wrote:
file://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example:
http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
http://www.apa
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
4. should a list be mandatory or opt-in only?
5. is it an
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 6:01 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
5. is it an all-or-nothing proposition (everyone has them or no-one
does)?
-1. someone tries to force its opinion on me about how i may
choose to express myself and describe my participation in the asf,
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Victor J. Orlikowski wrote:
Apache is about two things, as I see it: primarily, software and,
as a consequence of that software, people.
I see it exactly the other way around. Great communities always create
great software. The opposite is not always true (see sourceforge
Sam Ruby wrote:
My opinions exactly match Ken's below.
Same here.
- Sam Ruby
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there
> it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
Big suprise.
> 1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
> 2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
> 3. should there be a list of them?
> 4. should a list be mandatory or opt-in only?
> 5. is it an all
> On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 05:50 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > Sam Ruby wrote:
> >> Ben Hyde wrote:
> file://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
> >>>
> >>> I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
> >>> hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case wi
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 05:50 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notabl
My opinions exactly match Ken's below.
- Sam Ruby
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
4. shoul
I've attempted to enumerate some of my concerns about a suite of
community pages. I gather that people see benefit in such pages. I
want to be clear that I'm note deaf to those arguments, just
unconvinced of those benefits.
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:39 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Th
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
4. should a list be mandatory or opt-in only?
5. is it an all-or-nothing proposition (e
Victor J. Orlikowski wrote:
Apache is about two things, as I see it: primarily, software and,
as a consequence of that software, people.
I see it exactly the other way around. Great communities always create
great software. The opposite is not always true (see sourceforge).
--
Stefano Mazzocchi
Sam Ruby wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example:
http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
or
h
Ben Hyde wrote:
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:28 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Wow.. I really do feel like I'm at the Congress of Vienna.
huh? (and yes I know what the congress of vienna was).
conservatives sat on the left and the more liberal sat on the left
(hence where the terms "right" an
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 03:13:26PM -0600, B. W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I think you're missing the point here. Regardless of the verbiage
> used, if this whole community thing comes to fruition, it becomes a de
> facto representation of the face of the Apache community.
>
Indeed - all projects wit
Ben Hyde wrote:
I'm concerned that a few highly vocal members might generate the
impression that the foundation is taking positions that it's not.
I would be much more concerned about committers having @apache.org
mailing list addresses.
I hope people aren't using except when they are acting in a
Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example: http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
- Sam Ruby
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:28 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Wow.. I really do feel like I'm at the Congress of Vienna.
huh? (and yes I know what the congress of vienna was).
It keeps coming back down to this:
open (we sit on the left)
closed (you sit on the right)
and it really keeps being
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Ben Hyde wrote:
> > //www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
>
> I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
> hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
> example. - ben
But then again - I am quite happy with the ~dirkx usage for unoff
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
Sander Striker wrote:
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 December 2002 16:34
Yeah.. I'm confused...what does ANY of the issues brought up have to do
with creating the dns entry? It seems some folks are voting/debating
the home directories themselves. Those are already th
Sam Ruby wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that
all apache homepages will be hosted at
http://community.apache.org/~name
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have on
Ben Hyde wrote:
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:04 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
'community.apache.org' web site.
-1
Uh, thanks Ben. That helped a lot understanding the reasons behind
your negative vote.
My prior post regarding this enthusiasm follows...
Ok, cool. See my commen
I think you're missing the point here. Regardless of the verbiage
used, if this whole community thing comes to fruition, it becomes a de
facto representation of the face of the Apache community.
FWIW, I'm -1 on the whole thing. I'm here to help grow a community
around open-source software, not a
Sander Striker wrote:
Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are
represented
on there.
Here is an effort that I made last year http://cvs.apache.org/~rubys/
Here is much move visually appealing and more maintained version:
http://www.apache.org/~jim/committers.html
Would
Ben Hyde wrote:
I'm concerned that a few highly vocal members might generate the
impression that the foundation is taking positions that it's not.
I would be much more concerned about committers having @apache.org
mailing list addresses.
- Sam Ruby
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >"These are the homepages and voices of the Apache Community. These
> >pages represent the committers and members of the Apache Software
> >Foundation."
> >
> >Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are represent
> ed
> >o
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 1:53 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ick to what? its existence, or the format? :-)
Its existence and the fact that Andy is on a campaign to get Google
to pick up on it. -- justin
"These are the homepages and voices of the Apache Community. These
pages represent the committers and members of the Apache Software
Foundation."
Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are represented
on there.
Lets find a nit and pick it.
"These are the homepages a
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 19:43
> Sander Striker wrote:
>>
>>> http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
>>> certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
>>
>> Should've seen that one comming. However, you h
André Malo wrote:
>
> yep. But I don't understand the general problem. What about a simple
>
>
> ServerName community.apache.org
> Userdir community
> # or similar
>
>
> instead of the weird dot files, subdirs of public_html, redirects etc?!
that works iff you know someone's username on
* Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> considering that.. making this an opt-in by checking for a .publish file
> might be a better approach. that way, anyone who wants to be listed
> has to take an explicit step to make it happen, rather than being listed
> without necessarily even knowing about it.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>
> --On Sunday, December 1, 2002 12:55 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
> > certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
>
> Oh, ick. -- justin
ick to what? it
"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote:
>
> If Ken puts a little more description on the page, the keywords should
> get picked up by google. My blog seems to be well regarded by google.
i'd rather address the issue of those people who use their directories
for non-about-me stuff first.. there. anyone who *d
Sander Striker wrote:
>
> > http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
> > certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
>
> Should've seen that one comming. However, you have to know what to
> look for to find ~coar/people.html, on icarus nonetheless. It isn't
> l
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 12:55 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sander Striker wrote:
Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and
certainly not promoted.
http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
certainly transformable into a mor
I'll see what I can do about that :-)
How about now:
http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021201#people_at_apache
If Ken puts a little more description on the page, the keywords should
get picked up by google. My blog seems to be well regarded by google.
Ken I suggest something like
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 18:56
> Sander Striker wrote:
>>
>> Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and certainly
>> not promoted.
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
> certainly transformable
Sander Striker wrote:
>
> Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and certainly
> not promoted.
http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 16:34
> Yeah.. I'm confused...what does ANY of the issues brought up have to do
> with creating the dns entry? It seems some folks are voting/debating
> the home directories themselves. Those are already there and I as
Yeah.. I'm confused...what does ANY of the issues brought up have to do
with creating the dns entry? It seems some folks are voting/debating
the home directories themselves. Those are already there and I assume
that decision was already made. I suppose you could propose they be
shut down, bu
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:04 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
'community.apache.org' web site.
-1
Uh, thanks Ben. That helped a lot understanding the reasons behind
your negative vote.
My prior post regarding this enthusiasm follows...
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Sam Ruby wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that
all apache homepages will be hosted at
http://community.apache.org/~name
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have on
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that all
apache homepages will be hosted at
http://community.apache.org/~name
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have one, unlike www.ap
Ben Hyde wrote:
'community.apache.org' web site.
-1
Uh, thanks Ben. That helped a lot understanding the reasons behind your
negative vote.
Several things were put on the table:
1) potential non-asf-ralated material
2) content imposition
3) fact -> vote
4) -1 without reason
5) automatic redir
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Dear ASF citizens,
I would like to propose the creation of the 'community.apache.org'
web site.
Currently, some people have their apache homepage on
www.apache.org/~name and some on cvs.apache.org/~name and some don't
have it.
This creates fragmen
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
You have a vanity license plate don't you? ;-)
May be ;--)
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