Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread Arsène Tungali
Thanks Alan. Wish you all very good discussions and deliberations at the upcoming AIS that i will miss. So many things to be discussed there. Regards, Arsene **Arsène Tungali* * Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread Arsène Tungali
Thanks Alan. Wish you all very good discussions and deliberations at the upcoming AIS that i will miss. So many things to be discussed there. Regards, Arsene **Arsène Tungali* * Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 12:39, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Please consider my message on this as a request from a community member to be > assured that we are okay and have nothing to worry about. Please refer to the message already provided by the Chair of the Board at

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread Seun Ojedeji
gt; >> > >>> ---------------------- > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200 > >>> From: Ars?ne Tungali > >>> To: wafa DAHMANI > >>> Cc: S Moonesa

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
rds, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: Mike Silber Fecha: martes, 17 de abril de 2018, 9:36 Para: Jordi Palet Martinez CC: , Asunto: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR EU citizens, EU residents, potentially even visitors to the EU (on anything more than a transitory basis).

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread Mike Silber
gt; Best regards, >> Zeimm. >> >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200 >>> From: Ars?ne Tungali >>> To: wafa DAHMANI >>&g

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
-- De: S Moonesamy Fecha: martes, 17 de abril de 2018, 7:43 Para: Jordi Palet Martinez , Asunto: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Hi Jordi, At 01:40 PM 16-04-2018, Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss wrote: >And forgot to say that IP addresses are also personal

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Jordi, At 01:40 PM 16-04-2018, Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss wrote: And forgot to say that IP addresses are also personal data, so the logs when visiting AfriNIC websites or the registration forms, etc., have the same issue :-) DNS servers logs as well ... and so on ... PING

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss
>> Zeimm. >> >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200 >>> From: Ars?ne Tungali >>> To: wafa DAHMANI >>> Cc: S Moonesamy , G

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss
>> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200 >> From: Ars?ne Tungali >> To: wafa DAHMANI >> Cc: S Moonesamy , General Discussions of >>AFRINIC >> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR >> Message-ID: >> >&g

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread zeimm
1 > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:39:35 +0200 > From: Ars?ne Tungali > To: wafa DAHMANI > Cc: S Moonesamy , General Discussions of > AFRINIC > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ut

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread Arsène Tungali
a Security Officer (which is mandatory to be ISO27001 > certified). > > > Best > Wafa > > > > > -- > *De: *"Arsène Tungali" > *À: *"Mike Silber" > *Cc: *"S Moonesamy" , > community-discuss@afrinic.net &

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread wafa DAHMANI
Hi S.Moonesamy , I know :) it was just to make things clearer Best Wafa - Mail original - De: "S Moonesamy" À: "wafa DAHMANI" , community-discuss@afrinic.net Cc: "Arsene Tungali" Envoyé: Dimanche 15 Avril 2018 09:26:37 Objet: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFR

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Wafa, At 12:37 AM 15-04-2018, wafa DAHMANI wrote: does AFRINIC have subsidiary company in EU area ?? As far as I am aware [1] Afrinic Ltd does not have any subsidiary company in a country in the European Union. Regards, S. Moonesamy 1. https://www.afrinic.net/images/stories/Library/corp

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread wafa DAHMANI
just to correct not a security officer but a chief information security officer Best Wafa De: "wafa DAHMANI" À: "Arsène Tungali" Cc: "S Moonesamy" , community-discuss@afrinic.net Envoyé: Dimanche 15 Avril 2018 08:37:03 Objet: Re: [Community-Discuss] A

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread Ish Sookun
Dear Ashok, On 12/04/18 13:55, Ashok wrote: > > On a side note, Convention 108 is the first and only international > legally binding instrument dealing explicitly with data protection and > currently has 51 signatories including 47 Council of Europe Member > States as well as Uruguay until Maurit

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread wafa DAHMANI
). Best Wafa De: "Arsène Tungali" À: "Mike Silber" Cc: "S Moonesamy" , community-discuss@afrinic.net Envoyé: Samedi 14 Avril 2018 11:18:22 Objet: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Mike Silber < silber.m...@gmail.co

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Mike, On 11/04/18 18:19, Mike Silber wrote: > The Mauritius DPA is actually aligned with the old EU Data Privacy Directive > and not the GDPR. Unfortunately, no. The Data Protection Act of Mauritius was amended in December 2017 in the likes of GDPR; and it's already into force. Regards, Is

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Mike, On 11/04/18 17:54, Mike Silber wrote: > However I am still not certain that holding any of that information > actually makes AfriNIC a controller in terms of the GDPR. Article 4, paragraph 7 of the General Data Protection Regulations defines the data controller as follows: ‘controll

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-15 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Mike, On 11/04/18 17:34, Mike Silber wrote: > In addition, I am not sure I concur with Mr Alston’s insistence that > “holding data of EU citizens” automatically places AfriNIC into the > category of data controller in terms of GDPR or imposes any requirements > on AfriNIC, particularly as the G

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-14 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Arsene, At 03:12 AM 14-04-2018, Arsene Tungali wrote: To be honest, i have never requested any IP resources so i am limited in my knowledge of what type of personal information is requested when someone is requesting resources from Afrinic. I would therefore appreciate to be directed to the

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-14 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Mike, At 10:45 PM 13-04-2018, Mike Silber wrote: I am not sure that AfriNIC can provide any definitive opinion. Only a DPA can do that. My expectation is that the org confirms that is has performed a thorough evaluation and believe any risks have been mitigated. Please see Section 4(d) of

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-14 Thread Arsène Tungali
Thank you very much SM for pointing me to that communication from the interim Chairman of Afrinic. To be honest, i have never requested any IP resources so i am limited in my knowledge of what type of personal information is requested when someone is requesting resources from Afrinic. I would t

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-14 Thread Arsène Tungali
> > On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Mike Silber wrote: > > My expectation is that the org confirms that is has performed a thorough > evaluation and believe any risks have been mitigated. Exactly! If fines are to be imposed on AFRINIC (past May 25th) simply because there was less care taken upf

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-13 Thread Mike Silber
I am not sure that AfriNIC can provide any definitive opinion. Only a DPA can do that. My expectation is that the org confirms that is has performed a thorough evaluation and believe any risks have been mitigated. On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 at 00:18, S Moonesamy wrote: > Hi Arsene, > At 07:48 AM 13-04

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-13 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Arsene, At 07:48 AM 13-04-2018, Arsene Tungali wrote: Reading this thread, I am still awaiting an official statement from the Board telling us that AFRINIC is safe and at this stage is in compliance with GDPR when it gets into enforcement next month. Or maybe did i miss that one? There was

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-13 Thread Badru Ntege
Ashok Thanks for this clarification On 4/12/18, 12:59 PM, "Ashok" wrote: Dear All, Mauritius has signed the the European Convention for Protection of Individuals with regard to Automatic Processing of Personal Data (commonly known as Convention 108), to which it acceded to

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-13 Thread Arsène Tungali
Reading this thread, I am still awaiting an official statement from the Board telling us that AFRINIC is safe and at this stage is in compliance with GDPR when it gets into enforcement next month. Or maybe did i miss that one? I am not a EU citizen nor do I live in any EU country but i do care ver

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-12 Thread Ashok
Dear All, Mauritius has signed the the European Convention for Protection of Individuals with regard to Automatic Processing of Personal Data (commonly known as Convention 108), to which  it acceded to on 17 June 2016 at Strasbourg, France. On a side note, Convention 108 is the first and only i

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Owen, At 10:29 AM 11-04-2018, Owen DeLong wrote: I'm not referring to any specific treaty. I'm stating that the mechanism by which MU could subject its citizens to EU jurisdiction would be a treaty signed by EU and MU. Thank you for the clarification. Regards, S. Moonesamy

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 09:47 , S Moonesamy wrote: > > Hi Owen, > At 09:05 AM 11-04-2018, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Since AfriNIC isn't actually present in either location, it's up to the >> government of Mauritius whether it would do any of the following: >> 1.Allow suit based on GDPR violation to

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Owen, At 09:05 AM 11-04-2018, Owen DeLong wrote: Since AfriNIC isn't actually present in either location, it's up to the government of Mauritius whether it would do any of the following: 1.Allow suit based on GDPR violation to be brought in an MU court. 2.Extradite AfriNIC for suit in a court

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread John Walu
sion in >> the GDPR and will need national DPAs to provide teeth. >> >> >> On 11 Apr 2018, at 16:19, Andrew Alston >> wrote: >> >> Owen, >> >> Would the fact that AfriNIC serves La Réunion and Mayotte not create >> such a nexus since both

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
I didn’t say it was unnecessary. I said it was bad. GDPR is a bad regulation as far as I’m concerned and the more its grasp expands, the worse it is for all affected. If for no other reason than the incredible extra-territorial jurisdiction land-grab, this sets a terrible precedent. Owen > O

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 08:07 , John Walu wrote: > > Further, unless your in a silly country that was dumb enough to sign a treaty > extending EU’s legal reach into your sovereignty, such as the stupid congress > of the united States, then you can offer the EU a nice big Italian sign > languag

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
tps://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Owen DeLong Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:09:29 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Jan Zorz Go6; community-discuss@afrinic.net; members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR That isn’t the question. The qu

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
n Zorz Go6 > Cc: Andrew Alston ; > community-discuss@afrinic.net; members-disc...@afrinic.net > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR > > Can we get a clarification from staff whether the wording in this motion > would permit or preclude electronic voting for the d

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Kris Seeburn
Not quite bad it’s business and economic based. Most of the BPO companies are and have EU citizen /resident data and for the outsourcing to continue to operate within bounds and still survive. I do not think Mauritian government had any option than to go forward with this. Now the agreement with

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
years. Owen > > Andrew > > > From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] > Sent: 11 April 2018 17:12 > To: Andrew Alston > Cc: Mike Silber ; Abibu R. Ntahigiye > ; General Discussions of AFRINIC > ; AfriNIC Discuss > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
Well, then, that makes it just as bad for MU as it is for US. Owen > On Apr 10, 2018, at 23:18 , Kris Seeburn wrote: > > Mauritius is signatory that’s where the safe harbour was put In place years > back. All BPOs in mauritius are holding EU citizen / resident data. the Data > Protection off

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread McTim
part of the EU? > > In the same way – there are various EU members served by ARIN? > > > Andrew > > > *From:* Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com ] > *Sent:* 11 April 2018 17:12 > *To:* Andrew Alston > *Cc:* Mike Silber ; Abibu R. Ntahigiye < > ab...@tznic.or.t

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Kris Seeburn
+1 john... > On Apr 11, 2018, at 19:07, John Walu wrote: > > Further, unless your in a silly country that was dumb enough to sign a treaty > extending EU’s legal reach into your sovereignty, such as the stupid congress > of the united States, then you can offer the EU a nice big Italian sign

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread John Walu
Further, unless your in a silly country that was dumb enough to sign a treaty extending EU’s legal reach into your sovereignty, such as the stupid congress of the united States, then you can offer the EU a nice big Italian sign language gesture regarding their GDPR and continue on with business as

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Dabu Sifiso
AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; AfriNIC Discuss <members-disc...@afrinic.net>Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Roughly translated:   The ability of EU to inflict GDPR on those operators outside of EU is predicated on that operator   

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Kris Seeburn
Thanks Alan … i was going to point to that as i remember their was a need to align with DPA and Afrinic was registered as a data controller. But am sure we’ll get over the hurdle. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 18:00, Alan Barrett wrote: > > > >> On 11 Apr 2018, at 17:54, Mike Silber wrote: >> >> N

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
Andrew > > > From: Mike Silber > Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 16:34 > To: "Abibu R. Ntahigiye" > Cc: Andrew Alston , General Discussions of > AFRINIC , AfriNIC Discuss > > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR > > If I can add to

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
Which should in principle bring Mauritius adequacy in terms of GDPR. However, as the adequacy rules have yet to be finalised, it is difficult to say. On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 at 16:39, Alan Barrett wrote: > > > > On 11 Apr 2018, at 18:19, Mike Silber wrote: > > > > The Mauritius DPA is actually ali

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Kris Seeburn
exactly….i would suggest all to not talk over something and the ceo already has on his plate.So i’d suggest we let him deal. It was a good question we discussed and if we continue we will end up like the RDS of ICANN over GDPR. Here, it is a clear cut advise from DPA. Let the CEO and his team do

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
ndrew > > > From: Mike Silber > Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 16:34 > To: "Abibu R. Ntahigiye" > Cc: Andrew Alston , General Discussions of > AFRINIC , AfriNIC Discuss > > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR > > If I can ad

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 11 Apr 2018, at 18:19, Mike Silber wrote: > > The Mauritius DPA is actually aligned with the old EU Data Privacy Directive > and not the GDPR. There’s a 2017 revision to the Mauritius Data Protection Act. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss m

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com <mailto:o...@delong.com>] >>> Sent: 11 April 2018 17:12 >>> To: Andrew Alston >> <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> >>> Cc: Mike Silber mailto:silber.m...@gmail.com>>; >>> Abibu R. Ntahigiye

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Kris Seeburn
long.com <mailto:o...@delong.com>] >> Sent: 11 April 2018 17:12 >> To: Andrew Alston > <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> >> Cc: Mike Silber mailto:silber.m...@gmail.com>>; >> Abibu R. Ntahigiye mailto:ab...@tznic.or.tz>>; General >>

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> > Regards, > Jordi > > > De: Andrew Alston <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> > Fecha: miércoles, 11 de abril de 2018, 12:15 > Para: Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> > CC: General <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>, AFRINIC Board of

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
> Andrew > > > From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] > Sent: 11 April 2018 17:12 > To: Andrew Alston > Cc: Mike Silber ; Abibu R. Ntahigiye > ; General Discussions of AFRINIC > ; AfriNIC Discuss > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR >

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Kris Seeburn
:community-discuss@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net > <mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net> > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR > > Can we get a clarification from staff whether the wording in this motion > would permit or preclude electronic voting f

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
ilto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com > <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>] > Sent: 11 April 2018 13:06 > To: Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> > Cc: General <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List > mailto:bo...@afrinic.net>>

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
aside. Andrew From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: 11 April 2018 17:15 To: Jan Zorz Go6 Cc: Andrew Alston ; community-discuss@afrinic.net; members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Can we get a clarification from staff whether the wording in

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
: Mike Silber ; Abibu R. Ntahigiye ; General Discussions of AFRINIC ; AfriNIC Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Roughly translated: The ability of EU to inflict GDPR on those operators outside of EU is predicated on that operator having

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
I would agree with that completely The Mauritius DPA is actually aligned with the old EU Data Privacy Directive and not the GDPR. There are some interesting changes from the DPD to the GDPR. Most are quite minor in language (but could be more significant in application - time will tell). > O

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
Can we get a clarification from staff whether the wording in this motion would permit or preclude electronic voting for the directors to be elected at the proposed SGMM? Thanks, Owen > On Apr 11, 2018, at 06:10 , Jan Zorz Go6 wrote: > > Oh boy... Interesting AGMM awaits in Dakar, as it seem

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Owen DeLong
for those of us that sadly don’t speak > Lawyer ☺ > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > From: Mike Silber > Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 16:34 > To: "Abibu R. Ntahigiye" > Cc: Andrew Alston , General Discussions of > AFRINIC , AfriNIC Discuss &g

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 11 Apr 2018, at 17:54, Mike Silber wrote: > > No issue with doing a proper information audit (what there is, where it is > stored, how it can be accessed and by whom). That is just good information > security practice. > > However I am still not certain that holding any of that informat

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
and the dictates of section 3.4.iiv of the bylaws > > Andrew > > > From: Mike Silber > Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 16:34 > To: "Abibu R. Ntahigiye" > Cc: Andrew Alston , General Discussions of > AFRINIC , AfriNIC Discuss > > Subject: Re: [

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
16:34 To: "Abibu R. Ntahigiye" Cc: Andrew Alston , General Discussions of AFRINIC , AfriNIC Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR If I can add to this, there is as yet no clear direction from the European DPAs as a collective on how GDPR affects whois access

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
rew Alston , General Discussions of AFRINIC , AfriNIC Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR If I can add to this, there is as yet no clear direction from the European DPAs as a collective on how GDPR affects whois access in general. The RIPE NCC approach is premise

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Mike Silber
If I can add to this, there is as yet no clear direction from the European DPAs as a collective on how GDPR affects whois access in general. The RIPE NCC approach is premised on their interactions with the Dutch DPA, rather than a Europe wide approach. In addition, I am not sure I concur with M

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Jan Zorz Go6
Oh boy... Interesting AGMM awaits in Dakar, as it seems :) ⁣Cheers, Jan Žorž --- Sent from mobile phone, please excuse brevity and top-posting...​ On Apr 11, 2018, 15:06, at 15:06, Andrew Alston wrote: >Hi Sander, > >Mark tabled the following motion (and has agreed to let me send this to >the c

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
Hi Sander, Mark tabled the following motion (and has agreed to let me send this to the community list on the phone just now) – this motion has also been accepted in emails to the members list from the board From Mark’s email to the member list I have been watching the mailing lists

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > Considering that the board is facing a tabled and accepted motion of no > confidence in Dakar – which has been accepted to the Agenda Wait, what motion? I have seen the message from Sunday that he is stepping down as chair, and I of course have seen the allegations. I haven't seen a motio

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
f Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Dear Andrew, Members and the whole Afrinic community, Andrew has raised a very important issue for Afrinic operations - Thanks so much Andrew. The Board would like to inform you that the issue was discussed within the Board

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Abibu R. Ntahigiye
Dear Andrew, Members and the whole Afrinic community, Andrew has raised a very important issue for Afrinic operations - Thanks so much Andrew. The Board would like to inform you that the issue was discussed within the Board at the Afrinic 27 meeting in Lagos and the Management was tasked to

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
bject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Owen, Firstly – AfriNIC does hold data on EU residents – that is without question – I know of a couple of cases of EU residents with their data held by AfriNIC without even thinking of it. Secondly – irrespective of if they are signatories or not

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
of the history, liable for that. Regards, Jordi De: Andrew Alston Fecha: miércoles, 11 de abril de 2018, 12:15 Para: Owen DeLong CC: General , AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Asunto: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Owen, Firstly – AfriNIC does hold data

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread Andrew Alston
promotion of their interests; Andrew From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: 11 April 2018 09:08 To: Andrew Alston Cc: General ; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Importance: High On Apr 10, 2018, at 22:42 , Andrew A

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-10 Thread Kris Seeburn
Mauritius is signatory that’s where the safe harbour was put In place years back. All BPOs in mauritius are holding EU citizen / resident data. the Data Protection office will be fast tracking to look like ICO which is renamed GDPR anyways. Kris > On 11 Apr 2018, at 10:08, Owen DeLong wrote:

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 22:42 , Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Hi AfriNIC Board, > > Can this board please *urgently* inform this community as to what > preparations they have made as regards to compliance with the General Data > Protection Regulations passed by the European Commision and the bo

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-10 Thread Kris Seeburn
That is a good question and hope EU and a repealed safe harbour to an ICO equivalent will be going thru parliament approval soonest. Not only Whois but more is implied. Unless afrinic is waiting to see whether Eu and local govt will bite Kris > On 11 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Andrew Alston > wrot

[Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-10 Thread Andrew Alston
Hi AfriNIC Board, Can this board please *urgently* inform this community as to what preparations they have made as regards to compliance with the General Data Protection Regulations passed by the European Commision and the board will be in a position to give this community a full and complete r