Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
Looks like PR BS to me. Why am I not surprised? The red jumpsuits were obviously a Fallon gimmick. Nobody at E3 had to wear them. As for the coverage area, duh. If it covered the whole room, non-players would have to sit frozen like Lincoln's statue, wouldn't they? Hey! I'm playing here! Stop

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: The red jumpsuits were obviously a Fallon gimmick. Nobody at E3 had to wear them. As for the coverage area, duh. If it covered the whole room, non-players would have to sit frozen like Lincoln's statue, wouldn't they? Hey! I'm playing here!

Re: [CGUYS] Spiteful Win7 Release

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
So much smarter than those regulators from Old Europe, M$ has announced that the European version of Win 7 will ship with no software to access the Internet. Take that you croissant eaters who think you would simply download FireFox. Maybe you'll be able to get a copy via the post?

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
b_s-wilk We went from getting around 20 stations to 2. We have a new Well, you now almost have the same status I always have had. I used to get (with rabbit ears) a bunch of snowy stations from DC with one slightly better station (channel 4). I live in southern MD (LaPlata/Waldorf). -- Take

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Surprisingly no. I move many of them off of Eudora (except my mom) but they usually do not have much malware problems. I do a cleaning every now and then and make sure they have protection. I guess you can call it safe computing. Both of my Vegas I sold to get other cars and they were

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Mike
Did you notice when atari put out their first gaming console you had to be within six feet of it otherwise their so called joystick wouldnt work? Obviously a gimmick, it will never work. Sent from my iPod On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:23 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jun 12, 2009, at

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
Your naiveté is breathtaking. Anytime a shifty vendor presents a demo under unusual circumstances it bears close examination. You didn't answer my questions. Why am I not surprised? I repeat the questions: Did it work, or not? Was it a staged demo performed to a prerecorded video, or not?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Seems most are not mentioning upgrading from XP to 7 would be like asking Apple to do a straight upgrade from os 9 to 10.6. All your programs and settings too...why can't I run that program I've been running since system 7 on 10.5?? Some of the xp'ers out there are undoubtedly still running crap

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You might be surprised. I have programs that were written for old OS (DOS/w95-98) that still run well within XP. I have had programs written for XP that did not run well. It all depends on the programmers. I would assume (And it sounds pretty good) that most Vista folks will have a pretty

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Oh, really, Mike! Let's see. Mac OS 9 was discontinued in the late 1990's. M$ was selling Windows 98 and ME. So show me the 98-to-W7 upgrade or cut the WFB BS that twists the reality most list members know. Both venders made their upgrade versus compatibility decisions (good and bad). I

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Robert Carroll
b_s-wilk wrote: We went from getting around 20 stations to 2. We have a new amplified antenna that doesn't help. This sucks. The switch to digital was a gift to cable, fiber and satellite companies, as well as electronics companies, and gives the customers no advantage with plenty to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
I have programs that were written for old OS (DOS/w95-98) that still run well within XP. I have had programs written for XP that did not run well. It all depends on the programmers. I have two programs that were written for DOS 2.0 in the early 80s that I still use every day. Of course, I

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 12, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: I bought a digital LCD TV. Even tho I dwell on the DC Beltway and most of the local TV transmitting towers are about 10 miles away line-of-sight, I could get NO local digital TV at all with an amplified rabbit-ear antenna. Just bought an

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread mike
MS has antigravity boots coming out???!! AWESOME! On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:57 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: I repeat the questions: Did it work, or not? Was it a staged demo performed to a prerecorded video, or not? You are just

[CGUYS] Can't connect to web except through an I.P. address.

2009-06-12 Thread Kathy Bilton
Hi - I promised someone who is staying at my mom's house that he would be able to get internet access. (She has Verizon FIOS.) I thought he'd just plug in the WEP key and all would be fine, as it has been for my computer and at least one other. He's been able to get successfully connected

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Rev, you've got to stop putting in facts, Tom has a harder time with his hate ms rants. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: In the one comments I saw about the Jimmy Fallon show, they mentioned that the Suits were worn as A.) A Jimmy Fallon

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I think many people are victims of two things going on. TV Antennas are tuned for a certain spread pattern to reach the customers that they want. I think that one of the things they did was change the spread on their antennas when they went to Digital. So no telling until someone comes

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Sorry grew up with Sgt. Joe Just the Facts: Friday and a dad who was an Engineer and a real stickler for facts not opinions. Stewart At 12:09 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote: Rev, you've got to stop putting in facts, Tom has a harder time with his hate ms rants. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Sure, sure...sorry. Keep your pants on..oh sorry. There was no devolving till YOU started name calling big guy. Since you aren't responding to my comments, I take that as you knowing you were wrong and now can only go after the messenger. Good tactics. And just as a final rub..I'm getting the

[CGUYS] On demand publishing

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Our church publishing house has just introduced on demand publishing for some of their tittles that are out of print. (They have an extensive library of titles that they own the full copyright on) Took a look through the title and found that they have made what I consider a huge mistake.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread David K Watson
Since you speak of her job in the past tense, I suspect that the newspaper was running a pre-OS X system. Even well-managed OS 9 and pre-OS 9 systems were occasionally prone to extension and control panel conflicts if you used any beyond a basic set, and your wife's newspaper probably had to use

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread mike
IT guys can even screw up a mac network. I have a friend who works at a local community college supporting hundreds of windows pc's and quite a few mac systems. Neither have had problems of any kind in years. Good IT is hard to find, but once you do things run smoothly, mac or windows. On Fri,

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
WFBs change the subject 20 times attempting to obscure the facts and hoping that we will even forget the question. This demo is being presented as it it were a product in competition with products that are in stores now. That's fakery. That's spreading FUD. That's M$. On Jun 12, 2009,

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
On that we, mostly agree, but M$ is not the only offender. many other companies have offended over the years. Stewart At 01:39 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote: WFBs change the subject 20 times attempting to obscure the facts and hoping that we will even forget the question. This demo is being

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and yes. They were also running one of the Old all in one Macs with some custom software. Stewart At 01:07 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote: Since you speak of her job in the past tense, I suspect that the newspaper was running a pre-OS X system. Even well-managed OS 9 and pre-OS 9 systems

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:50 PM, mike wrote: Why is it the attackers always get whiney when they get a little back? Classic behavior for a bully. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] On demand publishing

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Just goes to show you technology can be used correctly but if you price yourself too high, you kill the golden goose. If they were good managers they would not be managing churches. Try to get them to do Kindle editions at $2 each.

Re: [CGUYS] Spiteful Win7 Release

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: You only mentioned one of the two CNET stories. Why am I not surprised? You mean this one... http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10262913-56.html Opera lashes out over Microsoft's browser removal The situation is even more precarious for those

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Maybe you think it's presented as such but I don't know anyone else who does. If they all thought it was already in stores I don't think you'd hear people ask 'when is it COMING out'. They'd be asking where they could buy it now. Maybe you are just faked out too easily, three card monty guys

Re: [CGUYS] On demand publishing

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
They are tied in with Logos makes things very expensive, but even there they tend to be cheaper than the published book. Luther's Work a 40+ volume set of books, well over a $1000.00 for hardback is just less than $200 bought on Electronics Media. This is the same yahoo that came up with the

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread mike
So a fair comparison in your mind is .4 to .6? A four year difference and hardly a leap in technology within the OS, all the while keeping in the 8 year gap between XP and 7. It's not anyone cutting MS slack, by cutting the time for Apple in half it's clear you want to cut Apple the slack. Who

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Looking at OS X, it's very capable and has been for some time. What else is there to do? The iPhone I think hit this extremely quickly, 3rd gen is hardly an upgrade. Better video? wow. Other then that it's on faster hardware, but the OS is basically the same. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:55

Re: [CGUYS] Spiteful Win7 Release

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Yeah..this all looks to make sense except one problem. Firefox. Damn those guys keep continuing to make inroads into windows. Maybe the opera guys should realize...they just suck and have turned into whiney little boys. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

[CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread Marcio
Here I am again folks. Annoyed with my computer... I think I am going to have a PC wth 3 programs max. that it will work well. I a typing very slowly because the IE where I have this web mail EATS MY LETTERS... not only this but when I enter a site it intalls up to a point... When the lower bar

Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Is switching to Firefox possible? On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Here I am again folks. Annoyed with my computer... I think I am going to have a PC wth 3 programs max. that it will work well. I a typing very slowly because the IE where I have this web mail

Re: [CGUYS] Can't connect to web except through an I.P. address.

2009-06-12 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps he's got his own networking set up to manually use a DNS? Normally, machines get the DNS addys from the DHCP server - the (wireless) router, or modem. Maybe have him try flushing his cache and try again:

Re: [CGUYS] Spiteful Win7 Release

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
Opera is quite nice. It is especially fast. Lots of thoughtful features. I like it and use it about 10% of the time just for the pleasure. On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:57 PM, mike wrote: Yeah..this all looks to make sense except one problem. Firefox. Damn those guys keep continuing to make

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Sue Cubic
Why did we do this anyway? I have cable at home, but have no cable access at my lake property (or I would have it there also). We were able to pick up at least SOME snowy reception from the nearest city (Syracuse, NY) with analog and a roof antenna, for 3 major networks. Now with a DTV

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Tony B
Assuming this isn't a rhetorical question, I'll answer it. The old system - designed in the 1930's, ratified in 1940, is inefficient. It requires a whole lot of precious limited bandwidth to broadcast a single format signal. DTV not only saves bandwidth, it can carry many different formats. It's

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread mike
Moto Q is nothing to brag about :p I've waited some time and should be, barring any acts of God, be getting an iPhone around September. I can get a refurb 3g for 80 bones from AT$T, and with the included options etc, family plan...I'll even drop my current tmobile bill about 10 bux. On Fri, Jun

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Jeff Miles
What network are neither of the dish companies not providing? I've got Direct TV and get all the networks. In fact, one of my peeves when I travel is dealing with the limited cable selection. It's also interesting seeing what areas of the country decide on what cable news channels to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
True but it is one of the better smartphones I have had. I use Verizon not because they are great, but because in this area they have the best coverage. I want a smartphone that is comfortable, works well, and fits in my pocket but does not weight a ton. I have the Q9c model which is

Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Easiest way is to go to My Computer open it up. Right click on C and then click properties. Then click Clean Disk. Go from there. Stewart At 05:22 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote: Th temp yes Rev. Th Cache... hmmm... where to a go to clean it? Thank you Marcio -Original Message- From:

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is the local NBC outfit. As you know they have to have permission to give you the local channels on Satellite. The local NBC provider wont play and allow then rebroadcast rights in our area, but only the NBC stations home area. (If I lived 30 miles north I would get it, or 30 miles south

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread t.piwowar
I use cut and paste all the time with my Palm Tungsten. If the iPhone is to replace my Palm it had better do cut and paste. On Jun 12, 2009, at 6:00 PM, mike wrote: I've used cut and paste on the winmo and blackberry phones I've had over the last couple of years maybe twice. It seemed like

Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Dunford
But, just curious. Why? Why IE 8 has this problem? Here goes my passion for computers... Marcio, I have no idea what would cause that, but there is something going on with your system, because that's not a common problem at all. Did you try disabling any IE8 add-ons?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread MrMike6by9
It's always painful getting the first iteration only to see better versions appearing in the following years. I type this on my MBP 1.1 that was 3 years old in March. Current models take more RAM and have faster CPUs as well as larger drives. Similarly, I have a 17 month old Motorola Q9h that I

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I once herd it put this way. What is the definition of a nanosecond? The time it takes you to get you computer home and find out it is outdated. Stewart At 08:47 PM 6/12/2009, you wrote: It's always painful getting the first iteration only to see better versions appearing in the following

Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread Marcio
Will try... Thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:28 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying But, just curious. Why? Why IE 8 has this problem? Here goes my passion for computers...

Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread Marcio
I have done it before. Just did it again. Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net Sent: Jun 12, 2009 7:37 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying Easiest way is to go to My Computer open it

Re: [CGUYS] Can't connect to web except through an I.P. address.

2009-06-12 Thread Kathy Bilton
From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Can't connect to web except through an I.P. address. [ The following text is in the ISO-8859-1 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the ISO-8859-2 character set. ] [ Some special characters may be displayed incorrectly. ]

Re: [CGUYS] Can't connect to web except through an I.P. address.

2009-06-12 Thread Tony B
Well, it's nice to know it worked, but something odd there though. Anyway, I guess there's no more reason to worry about it. I have no idea why they mentioned freedns which is not something *I* recommended. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Kathy Biltonka...@fred.net wrote: Thanks, Tony.  I had

Re: [CGUYS] Annoying...so annoying....

2009-06-12 Thread b_s-wilk
My God... I am in Firefox... What a difference! I can type fast and no problems with letters... Will switch to it! But, just curious. Why? Why IE 8 has this problem? Here goes my passion for computers... In Firefox you can set the preferences [privacy tab] to delete the cache and

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread b_s-wilk
I live at the northern tip of the Chesapeake Bay, about half way between Philly and Baltimore. With analog TV, I could get all Baltimore and all Philly stations, plus Harrisburg, and sometimes 4, 7, and 9 in DC, depending on the weather. Last week I got channel 6 in Philly, and 10 with audio