Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please

2012-01-04 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a default).

Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please

2012-01-04 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Seamonkey 2.5 (/still/ no auto-update to 2.6.1; has this been completely forogtten ?), Win/XP : Serif, serif, serif, sans-serif, sans-serif. Possible depending on what you have installed; that is not what I

Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please

2012-01-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Possible depending on what you have installed; that is not what I asked though… The Q was specifically about OS X 10.7 Now I am intrigued : if (as per your original message), Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS

Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?

2012-01-04 Thread Glenn Lanier, II
On the subject of getting the latest copy of the CSS file each time, you can add a unique value to the URI of the CSS file. Instead of: link href=MyStyles.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css / Use (on first load): link href=MyStyles.css?t=12345 rel=stylesheet type=text/css / And second load:

Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?

2012-01-04 Thread Boray ERIS
What I suggest you is using PHP. link rel=stylesheet href=/css/main.css??php echo time();? type=text/css / On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 19:29, Elli Vizcaino elli...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm noticing that not every browser refreshes the CSS even when using shift + refresh. Based on

Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?

2012-01-04 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Boray ERIS wrote: What I suggest you is using PHP. link rel=stylesheet href=/css/main.css??php echo time();? type=text/css / This would work provided the php interpreter parses the page. To insure parsing, change the suffix of the web page from '.html' to

Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
1/ Confirm that the CSS and markup are valid, that it is not hanging on a CSS error, and that you have saved the CSS file before uploading it. It's not always possible to use valid css due to proprietary css markup such as -webkit, -moz, as I'm using CSS3 the HTML markup however is valid.

Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
What I suggest you is using PHP. link rel=stylesheet href=/css/main.css??php echo time();? type=text/css / Boray Eris www.pidizayn.com Yea I saw that in the article: http://css-tricks.com/can-we-prevent-css-caching/ but there was debate within the comments on which format was better to

Re: [css-d] How To Clear CSS Caching?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Instead of: link href=MyStyles.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css / Use (on first load): link href=MyStyles.css?t=12345 rel=stylesheet type=text/css / And second load: link href=MyStyles.css?t=12346 rel=stylesheet type=text/css / Obviously, this is simplified when using some server-side

[css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Hi Everyone, Am working on a coming soon page for my site and @font-face doesn't seem to be working. Not sure why .I implemented @font-face on another project and it was fine. Now it's not working for this. I am using a different font now - could this have something to do with it?   Elli

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Yes, of course it could. A huge number of things could have gone wrong — without an example it is almost impossible to provide helpful advice. However: • Often, it's just a misplaced file issue: the fonts are in the wrong directory relative to the stylesheet with the declaration, or said

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Duncan Hill
Hi Barney! Ok so I tested on latest versions of Chrome, Opera, Safari for Windows, IE9, IE8, IE7 and they are all rendering the font. It's in FF where I'm having the problem. I tested in both FF3.6 9 and what you see on those versions of FF, is the fallback font (Brush Script STD) of

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Jason Arnold
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Elli Vizcaino elli...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok so I tested on latest versions of Chrome, Opera, Safari for Windows, IE9, IE8, IE7 and they are all rendering the font. It's in FF where I'm having the problem. I tested in both FF3.6 9 and what you see on those

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Ok so I tested on latest versions of Chrome, Opera, Safari for Windows, IE9, IE8, IE7 and they are all rendering the font. It's in FF where I'm having the problem. I tested in both FF3.6 9 and what you see on those versions of FF, is the fallback font (Brush Script STD) of  the font

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Elli Vizcaino wrote: The font is in its own directory. The link you provided places the the fonts directory within the CSS directory. I don't know why it's a problem this time around because the way I wrote my CSS code is exactly how I used it in another project

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread John D
The font is in its own directory. The link you provided places the the fonts directory within the CSS directory. I don't know why it's a problem this time around because the way I wrote my CSS code is exactly how I used it in another project (http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/) and it

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Joergen W. Lang
Elli, As Philip Taylor has correctly pointed out, the URI you used in your style sheet is a relative URI. The CSS specification (http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/syndata.html#uri) has this to say about relative URIs: For CSS style sheets, the base URI is that of the style sheet, not that of the

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 01/05/2012, at 8:52 AM, Joergen W. Lang wrote: For future projects you might also consider using a web font service such as Fontsquirrel to avoid other web font-related issues. What are the other web font-related issues you refer to here? KathyW.

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Elli, As Philip Taylor has correctly pointed out, the URI you used in your style sheet is a relative URI. The CSS specification (http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/syndata.html#uri) has this to say about relative URIs: For CSS style sheets, the base URI is that of the style sheet, not that

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
The font is in its own directory. The link you provided places the the fonts directory within the CSS directory. I don't know why it's a problem this time around because the way I wrote my CSS code is exactly how I used it in another project (http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/) and it

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Joergen W. Lang
Am 04.01.12 23:26, schrieb Kathy Wheeler: On 01/05/2012, at 8:52 AM, Joergen W. Lang wrote: For future projects you might also consider using a web font service such as Fontsquirrel to avoid other web font-related issues. What are the other web font-related issues you refer to here?

[css-d] Nesting problem in html code

2012-01-04 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Hello, I am kindly asking for help hoping that a dozen pairs of eyes might see more than I do. A friend of mine has a Wordpress blog: http://run-united.com He told me that after he changed something, there was a problem in the start page: The right column containing certain widgets was

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Are you sure it's working in your other project (http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/)?  Because when i go to that site I get the same error message in chrome for littledays.ttf and that font definitely does not show up.  Your issue is you're using the relative src from where the css is

Re: [css-d] Nesting problem in html code

2012-01-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-01-05 0:54, Christian Kirchhoff wrote: A friend of mine has a Wordpress blog: http://run-united.com He told me that after he changed something, there was a problem in the start page: The right column containing certain widgets was suddenly pushed down below the main column with the recent

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2012-01-04 11:16 -0800, Elli Vizcaino wrote: Ok so I tested on latest versions of Chrome, Opera, Safari for Windows, IE9, IE8, IE7 and they are all rendering the font. It's in FF where I'm having the problem. I tested in both FF3.6 9 and what you see on those versions of FF, is

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
On Firefox, in the Web Console (open it with Tools - Web Developer - Web Console prior to loading the page), I see the error message: downloadable font: rejected by sanitizer (font-family: creampuff style:normal weight:normal stretch:normal src index:0) source:

Re: [css-d] Nesting problem in html code

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
From what I can see in FF/Firebug the problem that's causing the side bar to push down is this:  #content { margin: 0 280px 0 20px; } That's a huge margin on the right side of the content div. Plus there are no width specified for either of the divs: #content #primary. If you're not

[css-d] Need help with floats

2012-01-04 Thread Barry Brevik
I'm developing a page (only needs to be viewable by MSIE at this time) where there is a div containing 2 images and 2 text blurbs. The upper image is at the top and floats left with the text flowing around it on the right, which mostly works. The lower image is supposed to be opposite;

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Joergen W. Lang
Am 05.01.12 01:05, schrieb Kathy Wheeler: On 01/05/2012, at 9:53 AM, Joergen W. Lang wrote: Am 04.01.12 23:26, schrieb Kathy Wheeler: On 01/05/2012, at 8:52 AM, Joergen W. Lang wrote: For future projects you might also consider using a web font service such as Fontsquirrel to avoid other

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Jason Arnold
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Elli Vizcaino elli...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you tell me what version of Chrome and OS you're viewing from? And have you checked it out in any other browsers? Because it was never an issue before. The link had been up for discussion in another post a couple of

Re: [css-d] Need help with floats

2012-01-04 Thread John D
The easiest way is to have something like this: #cindyContainer img { float: left; margin: 0 10px 4px 0; } #jenniferBio img { float: right; margin: 0 0 4px 10px; } Look at this sample page: http://www.mytechnet.talktalk.net/trainers01.htm Good luck. Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Elli Vizcaino elli...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you tell me what version of Chrome and OS you're viewing from? And have you checked it out in any other browsers? Because it was never an issue before. The link had been up for discussion in another post a couple of

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Elli Vizcaino
 When you use a path like fonts/creampuff.ttf that is relative to where your css file is located at and so the browser is going to look in http://www.e7flux.com/e7flux2012/css/fonts/creampuff.ttf.  I also think you're convinced it's an absolute path issue but it's not. You get an error

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread Beth Lee
Am working on a coming soon page for my site and @font-face doesn't seem to be working. Not sure why .I implemented @font-face on another project and it was fine. Now it's not working for this. I am using a different font now - could this have something to do with it? I believe you need

Re: [css-d] @Fontface Not Working?

2012-01-04 Thread david
Elli Vizcaino wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Elli Vizcaino elli...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you tell me what version of Chrome and OS you're viewing from? And have you checked it out in any other browsers? Because it was never an issue before. The link had been up for discussion in