Re: [css-d] IE6 adds extra space before paragraph

2007-08-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Seona Bellamy wrote: Can someone please have a look at http://www.dairyfarmers.com.au/df/ournews/latestnews/2007/07/25/from-rock---n-roll-to-rolling-hills/in IE6 and tell me: The correct URL appears to be

Re: [css-d] IE6 adds extra space before paragraph

2007-08-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Seona Bellamy wrote: I've had a look, and the date part doesn't seem to be taking up any more space than it needs to (it doesn't actually have an explicit width allocated). Yet it may take up more width than effectively reserved for it in the page layout. It's possible

Re: [css-d] mixed units for table padding

2007-08-09 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, fantasai wrote: But a white border-left seems to do the trick: Good point. There's a 'transparent' color keyword for borders, btw. You can use that. There is, but it is not supported by IE, so it is much safer (though less flexible and sometimes less convenient) to set

Re: [css-d] Why does font-size not work?

2007-08-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Robert Tilley wrote: style p { color: white; font-size: large; } /style /head body div style=color: white; font-size: large; pSample text of a large size./p /div I don't see the point here, and neither do I see the problem you describe: The sample text does not

Re: [css-d] Hover

2007-08-13 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, faramineux wrote: I do not want the images which are linked to be styled the way the text links are. They aren't. As a rule, none of the default styling of text links is applicable to images that are links, though such images have default styling of their own. Thus, it

Re: [css-d] Text-transform

2007-08-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Esther van Summeren wrote: Would anybody know a way to style text sothat lowercase is forced but every frase's starting in uppercase? Not possible in CSS, except if each phrase and its first letter (or first word) has been marked up as an element. And you cannot really

Re: [css-d] Differing font-sizes between operating systems

2007-08-22 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working for a company in which the boss (who's originally from the print industry) insists on having equal line lengths in the browsers on different operating systems. Sounds rather odd in several accounts, but on this list, we're supposed to

Re: [css-d] Columns inside a select

2007-08-24 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Les Mizzell wrote: I just got asked this by a client. I don't think it's possible. What they're looking for is a drop down list showing different versions of a product with several attributes all in equal width columns. In practical terms, it isn't possible, but you can

Re: [css-d] Differing font-sizes between operating systems

2007-08-25 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Felix Miata wrote: In Konqueror and all versions of IE, monospace (PRE) is the same size as proportional. No, on IE, the default font size of pre elements, as well as tt, code, kbd, and sample elements, is about 90% of the basic font size. Things _look_ different, since

Re: [css-d] align image to bottom right corner

2007-08-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, David Merchant wrote: I am trying to place the file cabinet image in the bottom right hand corner of a div. I've searched wiki, the web and poked around the archives and what solutions I've seen I can't get to work. It might be easier to analyze the situation if you

Re: [css-d] align image to bottom right corner

2007-08-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, karuna sagar k wrote: For the solution mentioned below - Positioned Image: could you elaborate on why do we need to style the div with {position: relative;}? To elaborate on my parenthetic remark (just to make it possible to position the image relative to the div):

Re: [css-d] li second line outdenting, how do you get it flush left?

2007-08-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Robert Lane wrote: I put a list together for a staff directory It seems that wish to make the list unbulleted and indented just a little. The style sheet ul.nobullet { margin: 0; list-style: none inside} is somewhat unsafe for the purpose. Different browsers have

Re: [css-d] Differing font-sizes between operating systems

2007-08-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Felix Miata wrote: Note the M$ Vista monospace font Consolas is smaller than traditional monospace fonts, similar in apparent size to TNR. In fact, all the Vista fonts are closer together in apparent size than the traditional M$ web fonts. Although that's good for word

Re: [css-d] need help on managing parenthesis with right to left

2007-08-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Patrick Aljord wrote: My site in Arabic from right to left works great. But if I want to use some ltr strings in English, it messes up with my parenthesis like in this list: http://www.democralist.com/lists/show/61 I guess you mean that an entry containing a name in

Re: [css-d] does fieldset break a containing p?

2007-08-29 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Emanuele Venezia wrote: I'm composing a declaration form, in which each statement is a paragraph containing a checkbox or some radio button. I've tried to group the radio buttons in a fieldset, which is, thus, encapsulated in a p. But the text following the tag /fieldset

Re: [css-d] line-height: 2;

2007-09-03 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, trevor bayliss wrote: What is line-height: 2; what value is interpreted by the browser? An em value or px? Sorry about this newbie question, thanks for input #footer p { font-size : 75%; line-height: 2; margin-top : 0; margin-bottom : 0; } Felix explained well what

Re: [css-d] FOUND: Acceptable content for content property – return?

2007-09-10 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Barney Carroll wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: What is the system behind generated content? What are my resources? Sorry for wasting time: The resources /are/, as ever, on the W3 spec ? to whom it may concern: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/generate.html#quotes I'm afraid there

Re: [css-d] DT, DD, in CSS

2007-09-10 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Paul Hanson wrote: Basically, I want my DT to look exactly like my H3 style and I want my DD tag to look exactly like my Body-Text style *EXCEPT* I want a hanging indent. You might find it easier to use h3 and div class=something, because then you would not need to worry

Re: [css-d] Font-size checker

2007-09-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Kristina Floyd wrote: Do you know of a font-size checker. Please explain what you mean by font-size checker. Do you mean software that shows you the actual font size used in some piece of a web page? Using Firefox extensions like the Web Developer Extension or Firebug is

Re: [css-d] Font-size checker

2007-09-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Kristina Floyd wrote: For example in firebug, I can trace the font-size back to the original value that it was set at in the body tag. What I'd like is to be able to select some text and to be given the equivalent value in pixels or pts, as I'm unsure that the value

Re: [css-d] Font-size checker

2007-09-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Kristina Floyd wrote: Do you mean the way Nick just described using the 'show computed style' feature of Firebug? Yes. I keep forgetting how Firebug works and how you can find that particular feature, and other features; that's what I meant by confusing. (I tried looking

Re: [css-d] Type in px then ems

2007-09-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Rick Lecoat wrote: We know that text specified in px is a Bad Idea. What I want to know is: does the inability to resize px-sizedtext fonts in IE Win get inherited if the child text is specced in something else (ems, say)? Basically, yes. It has nothing to do with

Re: [css-d] Type in px then ems

2007-09-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: You will make IE/win start resizing normally again if you use relative-size keywords on elements/wrappers _after_ an absolute font-size value on body (or wherever the font-size further in is calculated from). Pardon? Can you please provide a demo

Re: [css-d] Selectors for repeating patterns?

2007-09-12 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Jeff Jansen wrote: Is it possible to use CSS selectors to define repeating patterns of styles down a page? Not the way you (and I and many other people) would like to. This question most often arises in the context of tables: how do you specify alternating background

Re: [css-d] font :wqx-height

2007-09-12 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, vwf wrote: Different font-series have different x-heights. Yes, and the difference can be rather big. Normally you give list of font-names to choose from. Unfortunately, some fonts will show bigger than others on the list. This can have a negative effect on readability.

Re: [css-d] named anchors in IE

2007-09-12 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Ross Hulford wrote: I have a css menu lia href=#cadCAD Operators/a a id=cad/a when I try to link to a named anchor in ie it does not work what am I doing wrong? Is there some reason to think that the problem is related to CSS? Hint: disable CSS and test the page. (On

Re: [css-d] named anchors in IE

2007-09-12 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Ross Hulford wrote: This code works h2 id=cad name=cadsome text/h2 What is the URL that illustrates the problem, and how does it relate to CSS? The problem is not that it uses 'id 'or 'name' but that it is empty. It is not empty. Do you mean that it _should_ be empty,

Re: [css-d] wordbreak

2007-09-17 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Ross Hulford wrote: Is it possible to break up words inside a table? My words when too long jump to the next line instead of breaking up. You are basically out of luck with CSS in this issue. However, maybe your page or your table as a whole could be modified (in content

Re: [css-d] Ul printing problems in my print stylesheet

2007-09-17 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Ling, Luke C wrote: I have a ul with type=square on the page. The page URL would help a lot in analyzing the problem. I was unable to reconstruct the problem from the snippets you gave, at least on IE 7. Which browser(s) did you test it on? ul { margin:0 0 0 1em;

Re: [css-d] CSS Sheet and Links List Do-able?

2007-09-23 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Meg Fuller wrote: Greetings, I Am looking for a way to take and have a links list on a css that I can just change the css and have our 50 + pages changed instead of changing each one. You can change the _visual appearance_ of the links list using CSS. You just need to

Re: [css-d] Use or not to use Css to layout form components

2007-09-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
tabular. -- Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http

Re: [css-d] multi-column question

2007-10-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
it on IE 7. The words Purchase and Films appear each on a line of its own. Did I miss something in the problem description? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] refining text-align: justify

2007-10-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
with a fixed-width space in them. The latter effect cannot be achieved using CSS. (But this is still relevant to CSS in the sense that it essentially affects how text-align: justify handles the text.) Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] re. refining tex-align: justify

2007-10-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
: does nbsp; work in HTML 4.01 Transitional? Surely. It works in all HTML versions. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] Converting to EMs

2007-10-13 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
perhaps dealing with a problem that has a solution like #frontpagenews h2 {font-size: 120%;} or something like that? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] should I worry about the warnings?

2007-10-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
contains * { color: white; background: black; } What will happen in an author style sheet contains, say, #foobar { background-color: white; } ? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [css-d] images off / css on

2007-10-23 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
sheet affects it, too, possibly a user style sheet, and that style sheet might set a background color, and even a background image (that's why my example sets background and not just background-image), and who knows what they might be? Generally, always set color and background together. Jukka K

Re: [css-d] images off / css on

2007-10-23 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
for the div, making your heading text appear white on white. The risk would be small, though, since such another style sheet would be somewhat odd, if it just sets div background and color without setting h1 background and color. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] Missing width and height for img: why IE doesn't show theimage when I'm using CSS?

2007-10-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
in Standards Mode only, since otherwise IE ignores a selector with attribute selectors.) Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] What tag to use for the company's slogan?

2007-10-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
of CSS style sheets cannot be guaranteed (in principle and in practice). Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ

Re: [css-d] Matching anteceding elements?

2007-10-29 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
anyway. Would there be any smart trick for this situation? I'm afraid not, unless the table appears inside an element that could be used to distinguish it from other tables. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] a html 4.01 strict problem

2007-11-22 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
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Re: [css-d] Ideal way to link-ify a div?

2007-12-05 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
for the link text (plus some padding, to avoid making it look too tight). Using :link:hover etc. you could make it change on mouseover even in a button-like manner. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css

Re: [css-d] Markup Validation img align=

2007-12-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
, doing so introduces a break between the header and the body in IE5-7. That's because align: top has no effect, so it does not do what align=top did. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] IE7 wraping URLs at the ? part...

2007-12-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
after ?. The nonstandard nobr.../nobr markup is more effective. Thus, using the CSS white-space property is the simplest way _provided_ that you take a precaution against the lack of inheritance on IE 7. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] IE7 wraping URLs at the ? part...

2008-01-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: If, for example, we have spanfoo izip zap/i bar/span and we assign white-space: nowrap to the span, then the effect should extend to the inner element's content zip zap as well. However, IE 7 breaks between zip and zap when it sees that fit. I may have jumped

Re: [css-d] Class and Specificity?

2008-01-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
to refer to it has some error. Does _anything_ in the external style sheet main.css work? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] Class and Specificity?

2008-01-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
selector matches an element that _is_ itself an img element and belongs to class floatright. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] Re(2): Class and Specificity?

2008-01-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
just as well (assuming you don't have other elements in class floatright). Even specificity isn't involved. The point is that a rule simply has no effect if it matches no element (which was the problem with the img .floatright selector). Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] Background inheritance

2008-01-09 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
be applied (with the usual CSS caveats) to the applicable element. However, it is so dark that it might be mistaken for black. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] question about style inheritance

2008-01-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
that be bad form? The dir attribute is by default inherited in the HTML sense, and has dir=ltr as the default, and it is common practice to omit it altogether unless you have some right to left text, in which case one normally sets dir=rtl for the outermost element. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http

Re: [css-d] Endnotes in CSS with alternate stylesheets and font-size: 0pt. Looking for a better way.

2008-01-21 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
if any people seem to use frames for footnotes or endnotes. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
there is no such thing). Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css

Re: [css-d] Using CSS to control PDF for print

2008-02-01 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
it fits. In simple cases, probably almost any such software will do. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http

Re: [css-d] Trouble with table cell/row heights, rowspans IE.

2008-02-03 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
, and adding the (defaulted) cell padding) and then set the height of the dummy cell in pixels so that the sum of the heights matches the height of the image cell. This too implies inflexibility, but your table as a whole isn't very flexible anyway. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi

Re: [css-d] scrolling in IE7 when you increase text size

2008-02-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
up with IE7? How can I fix this? There's nothing you need to do and nothing you can do about it, but you might wish to pass forward the information on IE usage to the user(s) who reported the problem. (It's a real problem to them, of course - they're confused with the zoom function.) Jukka K

Re: [css-d] Transitional Vs. Strict Doctype

2008-02-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
specifications. In Quirks Mode, browser behavior can be very different from Standards Mode, especially in the treatment of CSS constructs. For a list of possible differences, see http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/quirks-mode.html Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] Transitional Vs. Strict Doctype

2008-02-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
in a document declared to be Strict just as in a document with a Transitional doctype declaration, or some other doctype declaration, or no doctype declaration. It won't be valid, though, but browsers couldn't care less. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] start an ordered list at a number 1

2008-02-09 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
dynamic page creation or preprocessing), and use CSS just for the choice of specific numerals and maybe their formatting (size, boldness etc.). Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [css-d] setting background colour

2008-02-14 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
don't think this is crucial, but mainly because there's really no constructive way to deal with this issue, but I'd draw the conclusion that maybe something a little different from pure white is better than #FF. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] Background color

2008-02-17 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
that text and the right edge of the canvas; I wonder if this is intentional. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki

Re: [css-d] Inherited color property not working

2008-02-17 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
of the span element, no such inheritance takes place. But do you need that span in the first place? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman

Re: [css-d] Inherited color property not working

2008-02-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
that there are no redundant elements that could cause surprises. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css

Re: [css-d] Is this a CSS problem?

2008-02-21 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
it avoids some browser bugs), they will see your page in their preferred font size and won't any need font size controls there. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
, or some other character that a browser treats as allowing a line break. So please provide a URL and explain the specific problem. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
;} Interesting. It does work (on Opera 9.10 at least). But as such, wbr is a non-CSS method for doing things (and generally the only practical way when you wish to permit line breaks inside a string that would not otherwise be broken). Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] give a solution for font family and size

2008-02-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
, it uses presentational HTML markup for things that are handled in CSS in modern approach. If you think you have a CSS problem, post the URL. If not, try and find some other discussion forum for the problem. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] give a solution for font family and size

2008-02-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
having seen it. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http

Re: [css-d] give a solution for font family and size

2008-02-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
david wrote: Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Tudor Hariton wrote: If you use CSS the sequence /*font face=Helvetica size=3 */must not be written in you html code... That's incorrect. The use of CSS does not affect the least the issue what you are allowed to write in your HTML code. Some people

Re: [css-d] give a solution for font family and size

2008-02-29 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
, but it's of course a pretty special case when I write _about_ fonts and wish to illustrate them that way. I don't see how span with CSS would be any improvement here.) Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] required attribute rows not specified.?

2008-03-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] list elements in ie6

2008-03-03 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
normally use all of ul#mainMenu ul#mainMenu li ul#mainMenu li a in different CSS rules, since all of those elements might need consideration. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [css-d] Quickly Removing Formatting from an Element

2008-03-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
a) not all initial values are fixed (e.g., font-family is browser-dependent) b) initial values need not be the same as browser defaults, and they very often aren't for form fields. If you mean browser defaults, then the idea fails because we don't know them, in a reliable way. Jukka K. Korpela

Re: [css-d] Quickly Removing Formatting from an Element

2008-03-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
, against any settings that might exist elsewhere in stylesheets. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http

Re: [css-d] how big is a space in ems?

2008-03-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
guess in general. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http

Re: [css-d] make link non-clickable

2008-03-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
links, thereby making it less probable that users click on them, if that's what you really want. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [css-d] make link non-clickable

2008-03-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
that the client does not like. So what does he want? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css

Re: [css-d] justified text and right and left justification on the same line

2008-03-21 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
than justification. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies

Re: [css-d] Styling input[type=file]

2008-03-21 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
/file.html#present Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css

Re: [css-d] what's the best way to add space between elements?

2008-03-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
a div, which can reasonably safely be assumed to be naked, just a block element with no particular default formatting. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] CSS parse error

2008-03-28 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
and pasted it in the W3C CSS Validator's By direct input interface, it validates. So what is the problem? Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman

Re: [css-d] White-space rule - best usage

2008-03-29 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
that browser support is limited. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies

Re: [css-d] Help with the C in CSS

2008-04-07 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
is processed separately in the cascade. I think this is the point that people miss most often when they think about the cascade. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] Font-Family: Calibri, Verdana, ...

2008-04-14 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
. If not, I can't really tell whether Arial is an improvement over the browser's generic sans-serif. Verdana isn't. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] Laying out a form, adjacent graphic causing me headache

2008-04-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
that are just sufficient for the content. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com

Re: [css-d] identify all text elements and wrapping in screen width

2008-04-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
treatment. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css

Re: [css-d] A printable pre

2008-04-20 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] em-based typographic grid

2008-04-20 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
idea isn't really among the ten or twelve basic things that should be considered.) Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] falling back if a font doesn't exist

2008-04-23 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
something bold, even though Arial Unicode MS has only one weight available. This is comparable to fake italics. Anyway, there is no way in CSS to say bold this if the font family is not xxx or anything like that. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] Does all elements include head etc.?

2008-04-24 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
display: none set for them. If you set display to another value, the situation changes. Whether browsers actually support this is a different issue. To some extent they do. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] colon in class name?

2008-04-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
and component separation. Or looks cool. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List

Re: [css-d] Abstracting CSS from HTML for Reusable UI Components

2008-05-03 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
it? You could also make Account Information a caption element, but styling captions is a bit problematic. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman

Re: [css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?

2008-05-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
. If the style sheet is external, the browser might fail to get it _at all_. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ

Re: [css-d] Select tag based on descendant tag attribute?

2008-05-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
attribute. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css

Re: [css-d] css equivalent of valign -- for use in actual tables ?

2008-05-12 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
in the contrived case where you use vertical-align: inherit on inner elements, and for some odd reason, even Firefox doesn't seem to support this; that's probably because the implementation of the value inherit is flawed). Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela

Re: [css-d] Select tag based on descendant tag attribute?

2008-05-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
to with the question about selectors based on inner markup. It's simply an application of attribute selectors. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman

Re: [css-d] short tag warning

2008-05-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
... which should be li a id=AK href=#span i.e. with a that closes the a tag. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ

Re: [css-d] How to align list numbers?

2008-05-22 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
work on old IEs, but no big deal */ Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com

Re: [css-d] how to select an element that does not containanattrbite

2008-05-29 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
per page. It might help to know the specific situation and goal in order to be able to suggest a different approach. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] how to select an element that does not contain anattrbite

2008-05-30 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
this decade, it seems. So :not is not a practical thing to use, except in the rare cases where it does not matter that it usually doesn't work. Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca) http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL

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