[CTRL] Skeptic News Tuesday #2

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990209b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # School Sued Over Witchcraft

[CTRL] Mind Control program on CBC

1999-02-10 Thread Gerry Forbes
-Caveat Lector- http://www.tv.cbc.ca/undercurrents/ The Feb. 7 Undercurrents show had a segment on mind control. Nick Begich demonstrates the neurophone. Soviet mind control expert Igor Smirnov is interviewed and reveals that the FBI wanted him to destabilize the situation at

[CTRL] It's true that abortion is legal but, hey, so was the Holocaust

1999-02-10 Thread Mike Moxley
-Caveat Lector- It's true that abortion is legal but, hey, so was the Holocaust Published in The Orlando Sentinel, Feb 7 1999 By Charley Reese Commentary Some female columnist was screaming that violence directed against abortion clinics is domestic terrorism. Her whining is a good example

[CTRL] Another Chinese strategic coup

1999-02-10 Thread Mike Moxley
-Caveat Lector- TUESDAY FEBRUARY 09 1999 Charles Smith is a journalist and President of SOFTWAR, a computer security company based in Richmond, VA. He writes frequently on issues of national security and information warfare. -- Another Chinese strategic coup COSTIND, a Chinese

[CTRL] Skeptic News Tuesday #3

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990209c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sects deny involvement in

[CTRL] U.S. Military Conducting TOXIC Biological-Chemical Warfare Against Civilians

1999-02-10 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:12:45 EST To: John Hammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: U.S. Military

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Liz Schumacher
-Caveat Lector- its always amazed me that Bill can treat women like ash trays and still have the Fem support he does. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are

[CTRL] phone calls-

1999-02-10 Thread Liz Schumacher
-Caveat Lector- if u missed it the first time, all u need for free(only cost is your monthly fee to your server) long distance calls is a computer with a sound card,and modem, speakers, a microphone and FREE software from www.tribal.com -- you sound like you are on a speaker phone, but it is

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- " Have to agree with you there Pru. I don't know about JBrown, but where i come from Oral sex and mutual masturbation is not exactly Bestiality or Incest!!" You see, it's this type of slow-wittedness that keeps

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread kimberly smith
-Caveat Lector- Liz Schumacher wrote: -Caveat Lector- its always amazed me that Bill can treat women like ash trays and still have the Fem support he does. I agree, Liz it truly makes no sense at allBarley DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it IS sexual harassment in the workplace... No June it is not. I don't care how they define sexual harassment these days. I've experience it, and I know how it makes you feel. Yes, we've heard your

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Especially since it's been documented that on at least two occasions, he couldn't put aside his sexual appetite long enough to conduct the business the public elected him to do and for which we pay his salary, to

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: MSNBC's NewLi...

1999-02-10 Thread Samatha 'Smith'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-09 17:33:50 EST, you write: You've never heard it suggested that it was a coup? I have heard that theory on numerous occasions. Nixon? No, honestly. Never. But now I know that theory is out there. Subversive means? It was he

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: MSNBC's NewLineup:Same...

1999-02-10 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Samatha 'Smith' wrote: Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: MSNBC's "New" Lineup: Same... Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:58:14 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-02-08 16:04:26 EST, you write: In the Nixon case, Gerald Ford was

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting that so many have argued that Clinton should not be impeached just because he committed a couple of felonies, but you can suggest that Reagan

[CTRL] Skeptic News Tuesday #1

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990209a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Human clone claim in doubt.

[CTRL] In the Eye of the Beholder

1999-02-10 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From TheNewRepublic http://www.thenewrepublic.com/magazines/tnr/current/nafisi022299.html February 22, 1999 Picture The Veiled Threat By Azar Nafisi The Iranian theocracy's fear of females. I would like to begin with a painting. It is Edgar Degas's Dancers Practicing at

Re: [CTRL] AOL Conspiracy?

1999-02-10 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 8 Feb 99, , Source wrote: Yes but dear SnoOwl, Christianity (and all religions for that matter) have to be the biggest conspiracy ever. That IS relevent to this list. Yes, but dear Richard, we've already been there, done thatand it was

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Let's end this now. My last point being that it was not only me who had a problem with what you said but Pru did also, in fact she sent me a personal mail about it (sorry Pru, hope you didn't mind me mentioning that. I was hoping you would have jumped in by now ;-) snip!!!

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-10 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (actually, I just forwarded the post from someone whom I trusted as being somewhat reliable), I issued the originator of this thread on the slim chance that there may have been something to it. Generally, I post such

[CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook

1999-02-10 Thread Lloyd Miller
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Martin H. Katchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: carl raschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Nils Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Frances Makarava [EMAIL PROTECTED]; carl raschke [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Markland [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vail Riches (ICQ#2018060) [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-10 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Oh for gods’ sake, come on. Nobody can be perfect like you June, maybe you do research every detail of every suggestion, but just because someone threw a subject into the pot that proved to be fake, there is no need to cause such a ruckus. The mail you sent which listed the

[CTRL] June: You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-10 Thread Edward Britton
-Caveat Lector- June: Get over it! Edward I see no such standard applied to the posters of other conspiratorial threads on subjects referring, say, to federal concentration camps :-) Federal concentration camps fall under the umbrella designation of 'conspiracy research'...supposed

[CTRL] Hitchens blows Blumenthal.

1999-02-10 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- Meet the Press, February 7, 1999 MR. RUSSERT: But first, before we get to Monica Lewinsky’s video and the final outcome of the president’s trial, there has been another twist in this strange saga. White House aide Sidney Blumenthal has testified under oath he never spread

[CTRL] $-isation

1999-02-10 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : South Central America Menem invites US to "dollarize" Argentina By Bill Vann 10 February 1999 The proposal by the government of Prime Minister Carlos Menem for the dollarization of the Argentine economy is an indication of the profound

[CTRL] Hussein: 02-10

1999-02-10 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Middle East An atmosphere of instability and crisis World leaders gather at King Hussein's funeral By Peter Symonds 10 February 1999 The public funeral of King Hussein of Jordan conducted with great pomp and ceremony this Monday in the

[CTRL] U.S.: Big Loser?

1999-02-10 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From Wash (DC) Post Russia's Missile Defenses Eroding Gaps in Early-Warning Satellite Coverage Raise Risk of Launch Error By David Hoffman Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, February 10, 1999; Page A01 MOSCOW—Russia's early-warning defense against missile attack, a

Re: [CTRL] It's true that abortion is legal but, hey, so was the Holoc

1999-02-10 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- Dear Mr. Moxley-- In the past month, the state legislature of NY State awarded themselves raises in the $20-40k range. The governor, George Pataki, gave his aides $50k raises. Meanwhile one in four children in NY State live in poverty. People and families cut from the welfare

[CTRL] The News Tonight

1999-02-10 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- Just missed the opening details, but NPR reported this evening on a rather noisy demonstration in New York?, where folks who had been cut from welfare were protesting the lack of jobs and/or jobs that pay a living wage. The speaker made the point that one in four children in NY

Re: [CTRL] It's true that abortion is legal but, hey, so was the Holoc

1999-02-10 Thread kimberly smith
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Mr. Moxley-- In the past month, the state legislature of NY State awarded themselves raises in the $20-40k range. The governor, George Pataki, gave his aides $50k raises. Meanwhile one in four children in NY State live in poverty.

[CTRL] Army Practices Secret Civilian Attacks

1999-02-10 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Those crazy paranoid anti government nuts at it again. Obviously the Army was just in for a little friendly visit. flw -- -- What happened in Kingsville, Texas, Monday night? Residents report unmarked

Re: [CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: MSNBC's NewLineup:Same...

1999-02-10 Thread 1lls0081
-Caveat Lector- Are you two skating around the thought - that they are not following through on the trail - because they are afraid that it will lead to Daddy Bush and that if (one of the) Bush kids did get the Presidency that our government officials would be in trouble? To go after Clinton

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-10 Thread 1lls0081
-Caveat Lector- Out of the mouths of babes! Why? HIV and AIDS - supposivly sexually transmitted? That means that they need a warm, moist enviroment. How do we keep blood supplies? The last time I looked they were kept chilled. How could blood transfusions ever have given AIDS? They might have

Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook

1999-02-10 Thread Samatha 'Smith'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-10 07:13:51 EST, you write: But the Republicans have always been skittish about exposing the dirtiest of Mr Clinton's dirty linen, lest their own (lesser) indiscretions come to light. There is a Washington etiquette in these matters, or put

Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook

1999-02-10 Thread kimberly smith
-Caveat Lector- To Samantha: For some reason it doesn't make it to a court of law, potential witnesses seem to kill themselves, or die in homicides, before that can occur.Question: How many people must end up dead before you catch on? Or are you deliberately obtuse?? Just wondering

Re: [CTRL] FW: APE: Republicans let Clinton off the hook

1999-02-10 Thread Brown, Jeremy
-Caveat Lector- Who cares about his politics? Let's take a look at the man's health for a moment! He's lugging around that massive paunch, and his suits look like they're about a size too tight. Did you see him at the State of the Union address? He is so pasty and bloated I thought he was going

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News Tuesday #2

1999-02-10 Thread 1lls0081
-Caveat Lector- 1) Intro 2) Forwarded Skeptic News Item. 3) Forwarded - Reposted item about MSG and Aspartame w/ other misc links. 1) Intro This is a line of %$#*@! Read the links that I have after this. NutraSweet is not safe. NutraSweet "seems" to do about the same number on the brain that

[CTRL] Open Air Testing

1999-02-10 Thread Hilary A. Thomas
-Caveat Lector- United States Senate Testimony before the Committee on Veterans' Affairs May 6, 1994 Open Air Testing with Simulated Biological and Chemical Warfare Agents By Leonard A. Cole, Ph.D. My name is Leonard A. Cole, and I teach science and public policy at Rutgers University in

Re: [CTRL] Internet Censorship - what a bummer

1999-02-10 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Well folks, after having a few conversations with some of my contacts, I’m convinced that we should all just unsubscribe from the Net and go back to writing good, old-fashioned letters. The internet, perhaps the last truly free means of information exchange in the Western

[CTRL] Skeptic News Wednesday #1

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990210a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UK GM rules could come

[CTRL] Skeptic News Wednesday #2

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990210b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Nessie on the Net - Webcams

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/9/99 10:55:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A woman who 'consents' to a sexual relationship with her boss because that is the only way to get good raises and gain promotions is being sexually harrassed... Okay, I suggest you talk

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/9/99 10:55:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What past presidents did DOES NOT MATTER...what matters is what we do about the slimeball currently in office. Great. You don't seem to mind the slimeballs in Congress. Is it just the

Re: [CTRL] Internet Censorship - what a bummer

1999-02-10 Thread U.P.secr.
-Caveat Lector- The Internet probably is the last hope for our planet. But old-fashioned letters might become an alternate provisional solution, if we organize properly before the censorship is a reality and/or the Y2K will close down the Net: After all, ultimately it is the trade unions and

[CTRL] Egytiana: 02-10

1999-02-10 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From ArabicNews.CoM US has invested $13.5 billion in Egyptian petroleum sector Egypt, Politics, 2/9/99 Egyptian Minister of Petroleum Hamdi El-Banbi said that the United States' investments in exploring and drilling for petroleum in Egypt have reached so far $13.5 billion.

Re: [CTRL] [prj] DOPE SUPPORTERS 03 My Body.A

1999-02-10 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- I would ask each and every one of you WHAT drug cartels existed at the time government began regulating? Certainly there were no Mexican or Columbian drug lords then. They are Johnny-come-lately puppets and stooges, poseurs and wannabes. Look behind them. The first real drug

[CTRL] CTRL Conspiracy

1999-02-10 Thread Frank Newsom
-Caveat Lector- This list is a really fine group of conspiracy folk. Can't even find the one right under their own noses. There was once a time when you could only post 4 times a day. There were many more "factual" posts and less discussion. Many of the older members are no longer here or

[CTRL] Fw: More on posting reports on chemical plants

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: FC: More on "posting reports on chemical plants" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Gull

[CTRL] Phobic Phallwell

1999-02-10 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From Wash (DC) Post Falwell Calls 'Teletubby' Gay By David Reed Associated Press Writer Tuesday, February 9, 1999; 9:11 p.m. EST ROANOKE, Va. (AP) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell is trying to out Tinky Winky, suggesting that the purple, purse-toting character on television's

[CTRL] SnoOwl: It's true that abortion is legal but, hey///

1999-02-10 Thread Edward Britton
-Caveat Lector- SnoOwl: Help me out here. Your argument is that, because there are poor, uneducated and imprisoned youth, we should continue to have legalized abortion? To extend this logic, is what you are saying that being poor should be included among the Big Three exceptions to any

Re: [CTRL] CTRL Conspiracy

1999-02-10 Thread Brown, Jeremy
-Caveat Lector- You know, you're right! Everybody on this list is blind to the truth! They have to all wake up and smell what they are shoveling! Let's start a new exchange of information. Right here, right now! I propose the following changes to the list: 1) Instead of "Caveat Lector", the

[CTRL] The Company They Keep (pt. 1)

1999-02-10 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- suffered as a result is obvious. Some suffered more than others. The rich suffered least. Few were surprised. That is the way of suffering, war or peace. The Poles, the French, the Belgians, the Dutch, the Serbs, et. al., and especially the Russians certainly suffered while

[CTRL] The Company They Keep (pt. 2)

1999-02-10 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hermann Schmitz's nephew, Robert was employed by W.R. Grace Co. in the early 1950s to help in its plans for diversification. W.R. Grace paid alleged cocaine dealer John Delorean $25,000 a month as a consultant. Delorean advised W.R. to invest in a luxury RV project. Grace

[CTRL] Skeptic News Wednesday #3

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990210c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ** CONSERVATIVES LIBERALS

Re: [CTRL] [prj] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-10 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: This is how modern society is organized. If you don't like it, move to Libertaria. MJ: Whatever the MOB says goes? Certainly a Tyranny easily identified by another name. You keep calling groups of

[CTRL] Justinian Theodora Stars Bill Hillary (fwd)

1999-02-10 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- "JUSTINIAN THEODORA" STARS BILL HILLARY === (CNNS, 02/10/99) -- In these dark days, with Bill Hillary's power about to become UNTOUCHABLE, a plan for light entertainment is contemplated, as a way to take our minds off

[CTRL] OEN 2/10/99

1999-02-10 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Impeached POTUS The Perils of Losing Justice Opens Case Against Starr The Justice Department has opened a formal inquiry to determine whether Kenneth Starr's

[CTRL] Fwd: 02.09.99 RMNews Alerted Its Readers About Tapes in the White House About...

1999-02-10 Thread Kris Millegan
Does The White House Tape Everything? 02.09.99 RMNews-- In an article published close to a year ago, and posted this entire time on a web page, Rumor Mill News alerted its readers and the American public about the White House Communications Agency. In the article we posed the question, "How

Re: [CTRL] CTRL Conspiracy

1999-02-10 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Frank Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list is a really fine group of conspiracy folk. Can't even find the one right under their own noses. Some of us notice it...but don't want to waste our limited daily allotment of postings commenting on it...we

[CTRL] Fwd: WHAT IF THERE IS ANOTHER MONICA?

1999-02-10 Thread Kris Millegan
http://www.softwar.net/comint9.html WHAT IF THERE IS ANOTHER MONICA? Pentagon - Virginia USAF officials are worried that two more Monica Lewinsky events could empty U.S. missile stocks. However, the USAF made it official - no new cruise missiles will be bought to replace the 90 ALCM AGM-86B

[CTRL] The Stargate Conspiracy

1999-02-10 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: [Rennes-le-chateau] Digest Number 36 - Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:51:27 -0500 From: Andrew Ormston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Stargate Conspiracy "The Stargate Conspiracy" exposes the most insidious and dangerous plan of our times. Centred on the

Re: [CTRL] [prj] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: This is how modern society is organized. If you don't like it, move to Libertaria. MJ: Whatever the MOB says goes? Certainly a Tyranny easily identified by another name. nurev wrote: You keep calling groups of people a mob. MJ: Only where

[CTRL] Bill Clinton Conjures (With) Justinian (fwd)

1999-02-10 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- BILL CLINTON CONJURES (WITH) JUSTINIAN == (CNNS, 02/10/99) -- The Latin *coniuratio* (conspiracy, plot) yields to the French *conjuration* (conspiracy, exorcism) and bifurcates into the English pair: conspiracy/conjure. Bill Clinton

[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-FINAL 02/10/99

1999-02-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: DRUDGE REPORT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 7:25 PM Subject: DRUDGE-REPORT-FINAL 02/10/99 X DRUDGE REPORT X 02/10/99 23:09 UTC X PAPER: CLINTON SET TO DECLARE WAR ON

Re: [CTRL] Mind Control program on CBC

1999-02-10 Thread Jesse Dolan
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:04:49 -0800 Gerry Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- http://www.tv.cbc.ca/undercurrents/ The Feb. 7 Undercurrents show had a segment on mind control. Nick Begich demonstrates the neurophone. Soviet mind control expert Igor