From: "Nicky Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You don't speak for all the Celts. You are still trying to figure out if
> there are even aliens, yet you are inplying you are above average
> intelliegence. On the other hand Andrew and I have both had extensive
> personal dealings with Ets and written b
From: "Andrew Hennessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If we had choices as a global population - say we could choose inner earth,
> deep bases, moon, mars, europa, local or distant dimensions, beings of pure
> energy etc etc variously allied interstellar civilisations - if we had
> choices, then lets cho
From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Yes, from what I remember in "Above Top Secret", they just repeat these 19th
>>century stories, they do not 'document' them by doing research and gain any
>>corraborating evidence.
>
> As I recall, it named the papers, dates and authors as well as the
>
From: "Andrew Hennessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or
> >> extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it.
> >
> >What 'evidence'?
>
> The best evidence I have ever seen for the existence of non-human life
> is the agenda of denial
From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I see and concede your point, Nessie, but this has been going on for
> days now, and it's one of those problems which has a simple solution:
> the DELETE key.
The delete key is NOT the solution if there is a 100-post per day list
limit, and one person gets
From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or
> extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it.
What 'evidence'?
June
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From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'd never dream that my ideas are above criticism, and never once implied
> otherwise. I think the screech level that arises on this list when anyone
> brings up the subject of UFOs is quite telling. There's plenty of evidence,
> anecdotal and otherwis
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>The Belgian Air Force doesn't think they could be man-made.
>
> The Belgian Air Force SAYS it doesn't THINK they could be man-made.
To be even more precise, a television program supposedly alleged that the
Belgian air force supposedly thinks that what was seen
> On January 7th, 2000, a Rumor Mill News Source stated "that a joint operation
> between Cuba and the United States arranged for the small group of Cuban
> refugees to make an attempt to reach the United States in a small boat.
For what purpose?
> "Once the boat was near shipping and fishing a
This is the 2nd time in as many days that I've gotten the following message
back when trying to post to CTRL
Maybe if Michael didn't overwhelm the list with 20+ posts a day, some of the
rest of us could have a chance to get our rationed 7-a-day in..
Either restrict him to 7 posts a day like
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> << So yes, Michael can posts more. If he oversteps his "power", this is an
> electronic jungle and the "club: will come out 'da sky. >>
>
> I'd suggest that this power is being abused then...granted his posts are
> informative but c'mon!!!
I
...why Michael Spitzer gets to send 20+ posts in one day to this
list, while I and the rest of the list are restricted to only 7
per day...
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> The Immigration and Naturalization Service is actively
> investigating allegations that a federal SWAT team beat up an NBC
> camera crew as it was preparing to film last month's raid on the
> home of Elian Gonzalez's Miami relatives, NewsMax.com has
> learned.
>
> "That issue is now being taken
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>but it wasn't until certain colonists utilized "in your face" tactics
>> that the Crown took notice...
>
> They physically assaulted the king's tax collectors, tarring and
> feathering some, whipping some, pouring hot tea down the throats of
> others. They want
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>How about keeping one's mouth shut and acting like everyone else
>
> If everyone kept their mouth shut and everyone acted alike, what kind of a
> world would we have?
Yes, it's interesting that the same people who complain about "the sheeple"
then turn around
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How other people choose to live their lives is nobody's business but their
> own.
Yes, whatever consenting adults choose to do in or with their lives is no
one's business...definitely not the government's...
After all, there is nothing that consenting adult h
From: "tenebroust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> First off, I am not gay,
It's a shame you feel you have to preface your comments with that
revelation...
>and I don't particularly like the lifestyle that some in the gay community live,
Neither do I. I also don't particularly like the the lifestyle th
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>On that final day of October 13th, all 70,000 winesses watched in shocked
>>amazement a spectacle in the sky: rainbow spirals sweeping the clouds, large
>>images of historical religious figures, and what seemed to them to be the
>>Sun falling towards them, only
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Seems to me that Bard is overly interested in homosexuals...wonder why??
Yes, to paraphrase the other bard, Will Shakespeare (who may have been at
least bisexual, if not outright gay, himself), methinks he, Bard, does
protest too much... ;-)
June
From: "Nurev Ind Research" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I am on vacation this week so there will be very little emails going
>> out. Will you all please do me a favor? Pray that weather gets nicer?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bill
> ==
> You bet! I'll talk to the Big Guy upstairs. He always listens
In a message dated 5/21/00 11:16:43 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>In fact, male homosexuals, as low as their numbers are,
>>perpetrate up to half of all child molestations. Gay
>>teachers alone commit up to 80 per cent of all
>>sexual assaults on pupils. >>
This is bullshit. Pedophilia has
From: "A.C. Szul Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yet Skinner finally saw the light on the season finale.will Mulder ever
> come back or was he abducted forever?
Depends on how much Duchovny is demanding to renew his expired contract, and
if Fox is willing to pay... ;-)
June
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> Adam Smyth, the British legal director of International Aviation Safety
> Association, a campaign body formed by relatives of Swissair victims,
> described the action as utterly deplorable.
[snip]
> Ian Shaw, whose daughter, Stephanie, died in the crash, said: "It is
> appalling. It is another
> "Nothing like this has been seen in Mayan culture," said Luis de Leon, a
> spokesman for Basic Resources, a multinational oil company that has
> underwritten the search for the city in the remote forests of Peten
> province, about 300 miles north of the capital, Guatemala City.
Anyone else find
> Q Has Elian been drugged?
>
> A There is every reason to believe that Elian has been heavily sedated a
> lot of the time. Why else would Thug Craig prevent any video footage or
> visitors? Why would not Elian be allowed to talk to reporters if he
> really wanted to go back to Cuba?
Okay, tell u
>>> 7. A Miami T-shirt maker printed shirts for the Spanish market which
>>> promoted the Pope's visit. Instead of printing "El Papa" (the Pope) they
>>> printed "La Papa" (the potato).
I fail to see the error
June ;-)
> >
> >> 8. Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translate
From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I propose another hypothesis. The first leak in the dike of silence came
> in '81 with the publication of "Michelle Remembers." The odd repressions
> people lived with finally had an avenue in the collective unconscious - to
> put a name to the nameles
From: "Jim Condit Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
> froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
> identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
> me up under the name "Willi
From: "Robert F. Tatman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Uh, not exactly. Maybe I can't *prove* it...but can you *disprove* it?
> Rulers have used lookalike stand-ins for millennia. Without wanting to
> appear superstitious, there *is* that odd pattern that the U.S. president
> elected every 20 years dies i
> There is a Microbiology Lab at Plum Island off the northern tip of
> Long Island. It is said to be doing research on animal diseases that
> could be accidentally imported to the US. Mostly about horses in
> recent times. They are concentrating on equine encephalitis, an
> inflammation of the bra
> May 12, 2000 | Donato Dalrymple made fresh rounds on the cable news talkies
> Wednesday, with comments on Cuban refugee Elián González's Miami asylum
> hearing. "I'm looking out for the best interests of little Eliáncito," the
> man who rescued the child off the coast of Florida told Fox News.
> Subject: J. Edgar Hoover Shocker?
>
> J. EDGAR HOOVER WAS BLACK SAYS COUSIN
Not so much a shocker for those of us old enough to remember such rumors
making the rounds back in the 1960s...
That Hoover liked to wear women's clothes was more of a shocker (and not
all that much) than his supposedl
> "We got Maced, we got kicked, we got roughed up", Cuban-born NBC camera
> man Tony Zumbado told MSNBC. He said that as the incursion began, federal
> agents kicked him in the stomach and yelled, "Don't move or we'll shoot."
> Zumbado added on NBC's" Dateline: "My sound man got hit with a shotgun
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [As I posted previously, I felt Elian had been drugged. --MS]
Do you also postulate that all the other meds found on the doctor,
used for urinary, respiratory, and skin infections, were also to
used on Elian?
> Jane Orient, M.D., executive director
From: "Jim Condit Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Oh, June, wake the heck up. It's just VRRRYY interesting to me
> how many of the alleged "conspiracy snoops" on this list have such a great
> love of totalitarian regimes like Castro's,
I have no love of any totalitarian regime, whether it's
Everyone who's jumping on the "this is proof they're drugging
Elian" wagon ignores the fact that the psychoactives weren't the
only meds confiscated. Also reported being found in the medical
bag were antibiotics used for urinary infections, skin infections,
and other maladies.
I don't hear anyon
> Smith afterward said he based this comment on information he received from
> Elian's Miami relatives.
Oh yeah, THAT is a truly unimpeachable source!
> "They've already found tranquilizer drugs with the doctors.
Also a whole bunch of meds for a slew of conditions, none of which anyone
has
From: "Steve Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Children and homosexuals do not belong together.
Your statement implies that homosexuals are also pedophiles. That
is bullshit. Homosexuality no more implies pedophilia than
heterosexuality does.
As for 'recruiting', again homosexuals no more 'recruit
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If you had have written "DESIGNED to take the fall," I wouldn't
> have agreed (not that it might NOT have been a conspiricy from
> the "git-go," just that I would need more in order to assume
> such). However, I have a feeling that you are right, i.e.,
I don't know if the kid looks 'drugged' as some of the comments
allege...
He doesn't look too different than any other kid that has been
forced to attend an adult function that is totally boring for the
child, who'd rather be whom playing video games or outside playing
ball...
Irregardless, this
I suspect that whomever is eventually arrested, whether a man or a
woman, is a patsy designated to take the fall...
June
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From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I think these are not boom times, at least not for workers. I think that
> the media lies.
Considering that all the major media outlets are now owned by major
non-media corporate conglomerates, it is not surprising that the media does
not report anything from
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It would be interesting to compare how safe we feel in our homes and how
> safe we actually are, statistically. If you believe TV, it's dangerous
> outside, you'd better stay home and not talk to anybody because psychos,
> rapists and cop killers are everywhe
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >St Bernards are being exported to Asia for use as food - they are being
> >tortured and skinned alive - this is fact not fiction.
>
> By who? Where? When? Be specific. What are the companies' names and
> addresses? What ships do they ship on? When does the nex
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Meaningless poll. How many felt secure BEFORE the Elian raid?
>
> True, but STILL a somewhat good indication as to how we think
> NOW, regardless of the Elian thing.
Yes, but the key in that statement is 'regardless of the Elian thing'.
Before the
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Do you feel safe, secure in your home after Elian raid?
Meaningless poll. How many felt secure BEFORE the Elian raid?
June
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> From: OBRL-News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:- Fresh evidence found of cancer risk near pylons
>
> Orgone Biophysical Research Lab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://www.orgonelab.org
> Forwarded News Item
>
> Please copy and distribute to other in
>The late C.S. Lewis, novelist, Christian apologist and
> writer of charming books for children, saw what was coming in
> 1946.
This statement betrays the writer's prejudices. By describing
Lewis as a "Christian apologist", the writer shows that he doesn't
think very highly of the Christ
> Two types of plague are believed to have caused the Black Death. The
> first is the "bubonic" type, which was the most common. The bubonic form
> of plague is characterized by swellings of the lymph nodes: the
> swellings are called "buboes," The buboes are accompanied by vomiting,
> fever and d
From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>The most personally shocking statement made during the hearing
>>was from Gunderson's attorney. As previously reported, he stated
>>that -- even though Hollow had already admitted that his legal
>>team had investigated and found Hickson's allegations abou
> "They never knocked," said Donato Dalrymple,
> the man who scooped Elian Gonzalez from the
> sea last year. "They never announced and then
> waited for 20 seconds." Nor did they present a
> warrant.
This i
> "The confiscated medicines were listed as amikacin sulfate, used for
> treatment of bacterial and staph infections;
Does Elian Gonzalez have a bacterial or staph infection?
> aminophyllin, a bronchodilator for treatment of asthma, bronchitis
> and emphysema;
Does Elian suffer from any of the
From: "Robert F. Tatman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The scariest thing for me about reading *Mein Kampf* was that about halfway
> through the book I found myself nodding and muttering, "Mm-hmm, good point."
> When I realized what I was doing, I slammed the book shut in one hell of a
> hurry, crying "Ge
From: "Kirimaku" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Actually this no longer needs to be true.
> If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed
> five lists for several years.
I second Kirimaku's suggestion regarding eGroups...I run a
couple of lists there myself, and find it quite easy to do,
especi
From: "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I hear that Dubya owned interest(s) in oil fields in Kuwait. Heard this in l98l
>perhaps it's no longer >true.
The Bush family owns Zapata Oil...actually, I believe the Zapata conglomerate is into
many different fields, but the 2 biggies are
oil and shippi
> From: LandRights Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE COULDN'T MAKE THIS ONE UP IF WE TRIED ! ! !
>
> Wolfspirit's Wiccan Torch Magazine, the leading voice of Pagans, Witches,
> and the Occult,
Just as the Christian religion hasn't one, cohesive sect, neither do pag
> Cockburn is joking, of course.
Yes, I'm sure he doesn't mean the Anglos and blacks in the area to die
from the resultant radioactive fallout...
> I am sure he does not really wish to incinerate tens of thousands of
> Hispanic men, women and children. But, as a Hispanic American
> myself, I d
From: "name AOL USER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>What happened starting when she was 17 to cause so much stress in her life that
>>she required hospitalization? It might be interesting for someone to interview
>>her classmates, especially highschool classmates, to find out what sort of girl
>>she was
From: "name AOL USER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I dunno if that's really all that small. The multi-millionaire who "married"
> the Congers lady on TV was said to have a 1200 sq ft home (with a busted
> toilet or bathtub sitting in the backyard).
> If we put two and two together, it would appear that c
From: "Nurev Ind Research" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I think that Tara has a good point here. All list members should refrain from
> posting anything that might upset Tara, or bring into question her personal
> views.
She's in my killfile. The only way I get to read anything she posts is via
others
> In Lazaro's and Delfin's defense, we should note that neither of these
> paragons of virtue has ever bitten a blonde stripper.
That we know of... ;-)
> Opinion polls continue to indicate a majority of Americans would rather see
> Elian returned to his father than raised by a couple of Miami
From: "name AOL USER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The floor diagrams of the house seem to indicate that there was only one bed
> in each of the bedrooms. Those floor diagrams were in either Time or Newsweek
> (I threw them both out) but I found it strange when I first saw it, that a
> six year old was a
The reason I can't get all excited over this is because
this is NOT a case of GOVERNMENT out of control.
Whether one agrees or disagrees with the policy, it is
one which has been adapted by a PRIVATE ENTITY, an
association representing that particular subdivision.
The Henrys knew about the polic
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yes but the fisherman friend said he and Elian were sleeping on a couch.
According to Marisleysis' version of reality, Elian had conveniently awoken
from his night's sleep some time before the raid, and so presumably got dressed,
and then joined an a
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> << a miracle that a fisherman saw
> him bobbing in the shark-infested waters and scooped him aboard on the
> morning of Nov. 25, 1999, the day celebrated in America, the country his
> mother died bringing him to, as Thanksgiving.>>
>
> Fisherman, house
From: "Alamaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yeah, I was thinking about this after reading about the alleged abuse the
> little feller got from Pops Gonzalez ... and, of course, this was one out of
> how many instances where the Caribbeans set out for 'freedom' (another word for
> nothing left to lose?)
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Imagine you are facing a guy with a pistol aimed at your head. You have a
> pistol pointed at his head. Stalemate. Then he wipes the safety on his
> pistol. What do you do? I'd wipe my safety. If you wouldn't, you're a fool.
It was an official policy known, ap
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> << Oh, really Nesse. Are You the Official Appoligist for the El Producto
> Generalismo for Life InFidel Castro? Well, Sob Sister, I grew up in the
> 1960's and remember those air raid drills in grammer school. You know
> the one's where the kids ha
Interesting that no mention was made in the article regarding
Bell's recent retirement announcement...if I'm not mistaken,
this is his last week broadcasting his nightly show?
He gave as an excuse for quitting this time a need to have
free time to fight supposedly false accusations of being a
chi
>On Thursday, the appeals court rejected a
> request from Elian's Miami relatives for visitation
> rights with the boy or to have the court appoint a
> neutral, temporary guardian.
Yes, now the Miami gan
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Nobody has been charged in any of this. Why? Why do Cuban-Americans have
> special rights?
I think you know the answer to that. It's the same reason the Republicans
are pushing for Congressional hearings into this, even though every single
major poll shows th
Okay, now for my comments
> The moniker made him sound like a character born of Hemingway, and he looked
> and sounded the part: broad-shouldered, barrel-chested, salt of the earth,
> with tattoos covering his arms and a passionate bark to his speech.
>
> But, in fact, he is no fisherman; h
From: "Alamaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> First observation: is the characterisation of 'child abuser' as put on Papa
> Gonzalez another translation for 'disciplinarian'; 'abused' because Kid
> Gonzalez didn't get the Commando Rangers in their frilly dresses for his
> birthday?
I think because it's
I will comment on this article in another post
June
=
Elian's rescuer enjoys the spotlight
A fateful fishing trip upends Dalrymple's life
By Michael Leahy
WASHINGTON POST
WASHINGTON, April 27 - Three nights after
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But let's take a look at the product of Cuba, and I'm not talking about sugar
> or cigars. Castro or not, they seem to be raising some pretty good kids.
> Elian is from a broken home, but the kid has withstood some pretty nasty
> situations, and he i
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> << A final discrepancy...why is the INS agent in the infamous photo wearing
> green fatigues, while the videos we see of the INS agents entering and
> leaving the house during the raid only show agents all in black? Why is
> this agent wearing a d
From: "Alamaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yeah, I heard it all from Donato on *Hannity & Colmes* (Fox) last night --
> RIGHT after I posted the initial query. I think they expected (as I did, in
> all reality) that the protestors would serve as their 'human shield' and give
> them plenty of time to
From: "Steve Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> No actually a hate group of homos and minorities figure they can project obscene
> images into the minds of white hetrosexual men. Seems that Asians and White
> people are the target of some fag group that has this and other technologies
> to harass peop
From: "Alamaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hey! Was there any wordage as to *why* the little feller and the bigger feller
> were in the closet to begin with? I had been led to believe that the raid
> itself was somewhat of a surprise although predicted. This one detail leaves
> me in appuzzlement .
From: "E. J. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> As for the girl being hospitalized, can any of you honestly say that at
> the age of 21 you could have handled the stress she has been under any
> differently or better?
She was also hospitalized for stress last summer, well before Elian came
into her lif
From: "Jim Condit Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I hope you're not believing
> the #$%& polls the Big Networks are putting out about 2 out of 3 people in
> America supporting the Clinton/Reno/Castro commando raid against the Miami
> family. What #$$% -- and how come so FEW of the long time conspiracy s
From: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This drama is a public spectacle that has been mostly orchestrated by forces
> that hold much sway in the Cuban community, that being corruption, the CIA,
> mobsters and narcotic traffickers, including such folks as the Bush Crime
> family.
And these sa
From: "Jim Condit Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This has got to be the strangest Conspiracy Research List in the World, most
> of its longest standing members seem to always trust the government no
> matter how outrageous their actions, i.e. Party on, dudes. Jim Condit Jr.
Hardly. Those of us who ha
From: "Jim Condit Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To "Bill Shannon": Oh! Tough toe nails! You had to listen to truth for 30
> minutes from Marisleysius!
The truth according to the Brothers Grimm...
> She was plenty educated for a first generation
> Cuban American and, since your knocking Cuban Americ
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> If she is so emotionally and mentally fragile, she's hardly fit to assume
>> the role of Elian's mother... >>
>
> And if you caught her performance in DC yesterday you'd see that she is
> verging on insanity...rambling...and her level of education too
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> What exactly did the Miami family do to demonstrate that they were fit
> caretakers besides buying (with their seemingly endless supply of cash) Elian
> everything he wanted?
And Marisleysis constantly getting admitted to a psych ward of the local
hos
From: "Alamaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yes, and I've also seen the newsreels of 'poor' little Elian at home with his
> caring and sharing relatives, at play, guns (more than one type toy)(if not an
> arrow) in hand, having a great time.
Very often shown outside playing after midnight, too...hardl
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On the surface, the abduction of Elian appears like an unpopular
> move, but there are strong motives behind it.
Unpopular with whom?
By and large, public opinion polls show that the majority of real Americans (as
opposed to the pseudo-American Miam
From: "The Extremist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> While a lone Cuban boy is illegally kidnapped by the federal fascist
> jackboots,
Let's see...the unemployed drunkard, Lazalo Gonzales, was given TEMPORARY custody of
Elian Gonzalez; such custody was revoked, yet
he refused to relinquish the boy to the
From: "K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > And it's about time!
> > Cudos to the government for finally taking action and for not allowing
> > the Miami relatives to dictate terms... The "raid" was well-executed
> > and very compelling...
>
> And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally
>
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Doesn't look to traumatized to me...hmmm...
I agree...but a question HAS been raised as to whether the picture has been doctored
or not. Compare the photos of Elian taken
during the raid, and this picture -- his bangs in the earlier pictures are str
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Now we see the true colors of the supposedly "peaceful and law-abiding" Miami
> Cubans...riots in the streets...what a mess!
And still a preponderance of Cuban flags being waved in the crowd, rarely an
American flag (a situation which existed well bef
From: "silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Am I missing something here? I thought that the boy was being reunited with
> his Father.
Ah, but don't you realize that the father is a godless communist thug, too?
And that 'family values' only apply if the family is rightwing conservative,
capitalist, and C
From: "Nicola Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> HA HA HA Perry Mason tries to analyze the actions of the King of the
> Universe. 0/10 Stick with your evolution you haven't the depth for
> religion sorry. Well you did ask...
>
> Nicky
> ps you weren't there were you?
And neither were you... ;-)
J
From: "silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jesus had surrounded himself with loyal and trusted disciples.
Including Judas. Church tradition to the contrary, there is nothing in the
Gospels to show that Jesus did not care deeply for Judas...in fact, since he
seems to have been the 'treasurer' of the gro
> The Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel reported Friday that a group of
> ex-soldiers was quietly guarding the Gonzalez home to prevent
> U.S. agents from taking Elian.
>
> The group, calling itself Cuban People's Dignity Movement and
Sounds like a fedspook troll group if I ever heard one...
> equip
> ``They were animals,'' said Jess Garcia, a bystander. ``They gassed
> women and children to take a defenseless child out of here. We were
> assaulted with no provocation.''
>From what I saw on the news, there was plenty of provocation, as the
crowd surged towards the vehicle, and blocked its pa
> The distinction may seem to be splitting theological hairs,
> but Biblical scholars insist it is weighty. One translation makes
> Judas a traitor. The other could make him an agent of divine
> will.
Along the lines of one of two questions I would ask my Sunday school teachers that
would c
From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Besides, evolution is a fact. The empirical evidence is overwhelming. Get
> used to it.
Then why is it still referred to in textbooks and scientific literature as the THEORY
of evolution?
Maybe because the 'empirical evidence' is NOT 'overwhelming'...too man
From: "tenebroust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I believe there is sufficient evidence for Micro-evolution by the fossil record. I
>even believe that some
>forms of Macro-evolution may occur under proper circumstances, but that there is
>little if any evidence
>from the fossil record for same. Regardl
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