date:20161018

> Last link's already gone...

Everything's on archive.is .

Re: Clinton's NWO Agents Op and Sling Trash At Assange Via UN Compact, UK Court

2016-10-18 Thread Razer



On 10/18/2016 03:30 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> https://wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html
> 
> @wikileaks doxes T&C framing scam
> 
> 
> RELEASE: Full docs and investigation into the plot to frame Assange as
> a paedophile & Russian spy #PedoPlot
> 
> The same front company behind the Assange #PedoPlot is also behind 2nd
> plot to frame him as taking US$1M from Russia
> 
> A front has released through US Democratic media an elaborate story
> accusing Julian Assange of paedophillia & taking US$1million from
> Russia
> 
> The John Kerry private meeting with Ecuador was made on the sidelines
> of the negotiations which took place pricipally on Sep 26 in Colombia.
> 
> BREAKING: Multiple US sources tell us John Kerry asked Ecuador to stop
> Assange from publishing Clinton docs during FARC peace negotiations.
> 
> 
> Included from link above for the lols...
> https://www.facebook.com/toddandclare/posts/1191392577583146
> https://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/17/1583749/-Julian-Assange-investigated-for-online-grooming-of-8-year-old-girl
> 


when I saw that this morning the first thing I did was check out
toddandclare.

My curiosity was piqued because my newsletter-only hushmail account gets
cam girl/sex date spam from 'two-name' domains. Typically both female
names, all registered to robertnorther...@gmail.com Thousands of them.
toddandclare is not one of them...

Rr

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 18, 2016 10:30 PM, "juan"  wrote:
>
> For completeness' sake. You are even more 'hard headed' than I
am, and your positions are standard establishment positions that you can't
even start to defend.

Yes, I am mch more hard headed than you.  I never said I was not,
hihi...  ;)

> So what's the point of calling me hard headed?

Oh, it annoys you, so it's very fun for me!  :)

> As to being aggressive, ask your google friends and the pentagon
what that means.

I don't have Pentagon friends, but it would be fun.  It would be a very
bizarre situation, more or less like to be completely in love with the
dumbest man in the whole world.  You really appreciate this guy a lot, love
him very much, but don't have courage enough to present him to your family
and friends, because feel ashamed of his stupidity, hihi...  ;)

I probably would present my Pentagon friends as strippers, go-go boys and
prostitutes, because they would be more well accepted among my friends,
hahaha!!!  ;D

> Why on earth would I change my ideas to Standard Garbage? You
would be burning witches in the dark ages, you are 'curing' 'autistic'
children now. Why should I subscribe to your ignorant savagery, nowadays
rebranded as Holy Science?

Sweetie, I would be burned instead burning.  :)

Well, my 'ignorant savagery' and I will try to rest a bit, my dear.  Good
night kisses, take care!  :*

-  c.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:28:06 -0200
Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:

> On Oct 18, 2016 3:57 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> >
> > So, having 'faith' in technology doesn't make sense.
> 
> Faith in people, faith in science, faith in technology, my dear Juan.
> Always hoping the people can create better technologies, more precise
> methods and systems and use them for saving lives, for making the
> world more human, fairer, with less pain and crying.  A world without
> the human misery:  wars, hunger, diseases, lack of potable water,
> etc...


Handwaving bullshit. 


> 
> > Plus, it's quite obvious that technology can be used to
> > kill and
> control the biggest number of people in the most 'efficient' way.
> 
> People don't need any technology to kill each other and manipulate,
> control innocent lives using menaces, fear, cruelty...  :(


So what. You talked about science as if it were to solve moral
problams. It won't. But it can't make them worse. so now you
ignroe that? You FAIL.



> 
> > And that is exactly what's happening right now thanks to
> > your
> 'friends' at google and the rest of 'captains' of 'industry'.
> 
> So change this, make something to fight against the death of the
> privacy, instead complaining about Google using a gmail account, my
> dear.


People like you are the problem. My using a gmail account is
irrelevant. I don't go around praising google and their
piece-of-shit employees, like you do.




> 
> > > I don't care about being a low profile nerd.  It only means I
> > > recognize
> the importance of technical knowledge to help the people.
> >
> > Or to destroy them.
> 
> I can use my knifes to cook or to kill. 


Yes, so your original comment about technology is wrong. 




 My choice, my responsability,
> dear.  You can use the same instruments and ideas in different ways.
> 
> > There isn't anything 'punk' in parroting propaganda.
> 
> Why do you think my thoughts are 'propaganda' and not yours, my dear?
> 
> > So anything you say is just 'your opinion'  and
> > 'interpretation'. It is not true. End of the Game.
> 
> Why is it not true, dear?  


None of what you say is true, as per your own premise. 


> It's my opinion, but there are several
> different opinions in the world about the same facts.

Facts? What's that? Is your opinion that there are real facts
out there? Well, that's just another opinion isn't it?


> 
> Points of view are very subjective, influenced by personal
> backgrounds and beliefs.  I can't say with absolute and complete
> certain that my opinion is the only real truth.  Tolerance and
> respect, my dear.

Tolerance and respect are just 'opinions' And since you are
'tolerant' to all kind of fucked up things I don't think your
'tolerance' has much value. 


Give my regards to all your google 'friends'.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:40:40 -0200
Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:

> I will tell you a secret: - when Juan is not being annoying and
> aggressive, he is a very dear person, but extremely hard headed. 

For completeness' sake. You are even more 'hard headed' than I
am, and your positions are standard establishment positions
that you can't even start to defend. 

So what's the point of calling me hard headed? Pot calling
kettle black much?

As to being aggressive, ask your google friends and the
pentagon what that means. 

> He
> has a head so, so hard that I can break coconuts using it and he
> won't change his ideas.  :P

Why on earth would I change my ideas to Standard Garbage? You
would be burning witches in the dark ages, you are 'curing'
'autistic' children now. Why should I subscribe to your
ignorant savagery, nowadays rebranded as Holy Science?

> 
> He certainly would help me to make voluntary work with disabled
> children just to prove me how much I am very, very wrong, hihi!  In
> some moments, I want to kick his balls, but I like him!  :)

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 18, 2016 3:57 PM, "juan"  wrote:
>
> So, having 'faith' in technology doesn't make sense.

Faith in people, faith in science, faith in technology, my dear Juan.
Always hoping the people can create better technologies, more precise
methods and systems and use them for saving lives, for making the world
more human, fairer, with less pain and crying.  A world without the human
misery:  wars, hunger, diseases, lack of potable water, etc...

> Plus, it's quite obvious that technology can be used to kill and
control the biggest number of people in the most 'efficient' way.

People don't need any technology to kill each other and manipulate, control
innocent lives using menaces, fear, cruelty...  :(

> And that is exactly what's happening right now thanks to your
'friends' at google and the rest of 'captains' of 'industry'.

So change this, make something to fight against the death of the privacy,
instead complaining about Google using a gmail account, my dear.

> > I don't care about being a low profile nerd.  It only means I recognize
the importance of technical knowledge to help the people.
>
> Or to destroy them.

I can use my knifes to cook or to kill.  My choice, my responsability,
dear.  You can use the same instruments and ideas in different ways.

> There isn't anything 'punk' in parroting propaganda.

Why do you think my thoughts are 'propaganda' and not yours, my dear?

> So anything you say is just 'your opinion'  and
> 'interpretation'. It is not true. End of the Game.

Why is it not true, dear?  It's my opinion, but there are several different
opinions in the world about the same facts.

Points of view are very subjective, influenced by personal backgrounds and
beliefs.  I can't say with absolute and complete certain that my opinion is
the only real truth.  Tolerance and respect, my dear.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 18, 2016 8:41 PM, "John Newman"  wrote:
>
>
> Do you actually know anything about the autistic spectrum?  I ask because
my former girlfriends job was working with disabled children. She regularly
worked with girls in their teens who couldn't even speak, not a single
word. They were SEVERELY cognitively impaired. Their diagnosis was autism,
nothing more.

John,

I won't have patience now for searching the correct thread on the cpunks
list, but Juan had a long and very, very exhaustive discussion about
autistic children with Xorcist few weeks ago.

Xorcist has an autistic niece, who loves a lot and considers like a
daughter, and makes voluntary work with disabled children too.  He told
some stories about his convivence with her, his attempts of stimulate her
senses, her intelligence, and about her difficulties to understand the
world and the people.  It was beautiful because he was talking about love.
True love.

I usually try to use music as stimulus for all ages, in all situations.
Music is life, and all the words have sounds, and these sounds are music
too.

I think Xorcist would like to exchange some ideas with your girlfriend
about what he can do for his loved niece and all the other kids that he is
helping.  He has a tender heart and is a very old cpunk.

I will tell you a secret: - when Juan is not being annoying and aggressive,
he is a very dear person, but extremely hard headed.  He has a head so, so
hard that I can break coconuts using it and he won't change his ideas.  :P

He certainly would help me to make voluntary work with disabled children
just to prove me how much I am very, very wrong, hihi!  In some moments, I
want to kick his balls, but I like him!  :)

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

2016-10-18 Thread rooty

hi hi me me think you real



 Original Message 
On Oct 18, 2016, 5:35 PM, Mirimir wrote:

On 10/18/2016 06:22 PM, John Newman wrote:
>
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:18 PM, juan  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400
>> John Newman  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Christ,
>>
>> lol...
>>
>>> you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You
>>> literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>
>>
>> How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now
>> psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh?
>>
>> Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick
>> some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.
>>
>
> No man, I feel just fine. I'm neither pro censor ship, nor any kind of nazi.
>
> Keep clapping yourself on the back for your own ignorance. It's an impressive 
> show :)

I guess. But damn, it gets old after a while ;)

> John
>>
>>
>>> But I guess you like it that way
>>>
>>> John
>>>


>
>

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

2016-10-18 Thread Mirimir

On 10/18/2016 06:22 PM, John Newman wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:18 PM, juan  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400
>> John Newman  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Christ,
>>
>>lol...
>>
>>> you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You
>>> literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>
>>
>>How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now 
>>psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh? 
>>
>>Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick
>>some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.
>>
> 
> No man, I feel just fine. I'm neither pro censor ship, nor any kind of nazi.
> 
> Keep clapping yourself on the back for your own ignorance. It's an impressive 
> show :)

I guess. But damn, it gets old after a while ;)

> John
>>
>>
>>> But I guess you like it that way
>>>
>>> John
>>>


> 
>

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:22:26 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> 
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:18 PM, juan  wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400
> > John Newman  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> Christ,
> >
> >lol...
> > 
> >> you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You
> >> literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.
> > 
> > 
> >How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now 
> >psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh? 
> > 
> >Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick
> >some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.
> > 
> 
> No man, I feel just fine. I'm neither pro censor ship, nor any kind
> of nazi.

Sure, your gallant defense of 'moderation' has nothing to do
with censorship.

Like I told your americunt comrade quinn : why don't you at
least have a shred of intellectual honesty? You want to be
a censor, fine. But at least do it openly, scumbag.

Same thing regarding your support for psychiatric 'science'.
Hey, aren't you a mentally ill drug addict? Some of posts in
the list would suggest as much

> 
> Keep clapping yourself on the back for your own ignorance. 

Well, at least I'm not a snob like you who is more ignorant
than me while believing he's a 'scientific'...what? Truther? 

> It's an
> impressive show :)

Better than yours at least.

> 
> John
> > 
> > 
> >> But I guess you like it that way
> >> 
> >> John
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
>

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

2016-10-18 Thread John Newman


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:18 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400
> John Newman  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Christ,
>
>lol...
> 
>> you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You
>> literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.
> 
> 
>How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now 
>psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh? 
> 
>Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick
>some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.
> 

No man, I feel just fine. I'm neither pro censor ship, nor any kind of nazi.

Keep clapping yourself on the back for your own ignorance. It's an impressive 
show :)


John
> 
> 
>> But I guess you like it that way
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> 
>>>

Re: Clinton's NWO Agents Op and Sling Trash At Assange Via UN Compact, UK Court

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 07:42:53PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/10/dozens-of-suspicious-court-cases-with-missing-defendants-aim-at-getting-web-pages-taken-down-or-deindexed/
> 
> There are about 25 court cases throughout the country that have a
> suspicious profile:
> All involve allegedly self-represented plaintiffs, yet they have
> similar snippets of legalese that suggest a common organization behind
> them.
> Of these 25-odd cases, 15 give the addresses of the defendants — but a
> private investigator (Giles Miller of Lynx Insights & Investigations)
> couldn’t find a single one of the ostensible defendants at the
> ostensible address.
> Now, you might ask, what’s the point...
> 
> 
> Note how easy filing fake cases and charges in the courts and systems is...

Hacking the system. Now all we need is an inspired individual or two.
Take the FOIlligator to the next level :)

Here in Australia, the prospectus of CityLink's first Victorian tolled
road project, assumed up to 280,000 folks not paying, and going to the
courts, every year. And that was considered reasonable from a business
point of view.

Imagine a RoadToll-igator, or a legal DDoSigator - jim what do you think
about this approach?

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> Christ, 

lol...

> you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You
> literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.

How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now 
psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh? 

Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick
some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.

> But I guess you like it that way.
> 
> John
> 
> > 
> >

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 07:41:31PM -0400, John Newman wrote:
> Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen?

John, so factual today - what's got into you?

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

2016-10-18 Thread John Newman



> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:55 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:41:31 -0400
> John Newman  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:48 PM, juan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:29:46 -0200
>>> Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
>>> 
> On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> 
>   And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'?
> Please.
 
 "Challenged"?  "Me"?  For "you"?  Hahahaha!!!  ;D
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?  
>>> 
>>> 
 Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!!  Wow, my mood is much
 better now!  Thanks, Juan!!!  :D  :D  :D
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can
>>>   challenge newspaper propaganda...
>>> 
>>>   Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's
>>>   actually no joke...
>> 
>> 
>> Do you actually know anything about the autistic spectrum?  I ask
>> because my former girlfriends job was working with disabled children.
>> She regularly worked with girls in their teens who couldn't even
>> speak, not a single word. They were SEVERELY cognitively impaired.
>> Their diagnosis was autism, nothing more.
>> 
>> Surely children are over prescribed medication in the rather fucked
>> up world we live in, but you don't know what the fuck you're talking
>> about.
> 
> 
> 
>I'm done with you john, but thanks for completing your fucked up
>'profile'. Not only a pro censorship piece of shit, you
>are also a pro psychiatric mafia piece of shit. lol...in a sad
>way.
> 
> 
Christ, you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You literally 
do not know what the fuck you're talking about.

But I guess you like it that way.

John

> 
> 
> 
> 
>> As with your claim that global warming is a hoax.
>> 
>> Do you also think evolution is a 'hoax'?
>> 
>> Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen?
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>

Re: Clinton's NWO Agents Op and Sling Trash At Assange Via UN Compact, UK Court

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:30:22PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html
> 
> @wikileaks doxes T&C framing scam
> 
> 
> RELEASE: Full docs and investigation into the plot to frame Assange as
> a paedophile & Russian spy #PedoPlot
> 
> The same front company behind the Assange #PedoPlot is also behind 2nd
> plot to frame him as taking US$1M from Russia
> 
> A front has released through US Democratic media an elaborate story
> accusing Julian Assange of paedophillia & taking US$1million from
> Russia
> 
> The John Kerry private meeting with Ecuador was made on the sidelines
> of the negotiations which took place pricipally on Sep 26 in Colombia.
> 
> BREAKING: Multiple US sources tell us John Kerry asked Ecuador to stop
> Assange from publishing Clinton docs during FARC peace negotiations.
> 
> 
> Included from link above for the lols...
> https://www.facebook.com/toddandclare/posts/1191392577583146
> https://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/17/1583749/-Julian-Assange-investigated-for-online-grooming-of-8-year-old-girl

Last link's already gone...

Re: QuarkLabs VeraCrypt Audit Results

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 05:38:43PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://ostif.org/the-veracrypt-audit-results/
> https://ostif.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/VeraCrypt-Audit-Final-for-Public-Release.pdf
> https://ostif.org/ostif-quarklab-and-veracrypt-e-mails-are-being-intercepted/
> 
> VeraCrypt 1.18 and its bootloaders were evaluated. This release
> included a number of new features including non-western developed
> encryption options, a boot loader that supports UEFI (modern BIOSes),
> and more.
> 
> QuarksLab found:
> 8 Critical Vulnerabilities
> 3 Medium Vulnerabilities
> 15 Low or Informational Vulnerabilities / Concerns
> 
> This public disclosure of these vulnerabilities coincides with the
> release of VeraCrypt 1.19 which fixes the vast majority of these high
> priority concerns. Some of these issues have not been fixed due to
> high complexity for the proposed fixes, but workarounds have been
> presented in the documentation for VeraCrypt.


Adding a little bit of cross check for those who bother:

$ ls -l
total 52004
-rw--- 1 justa justa 1523 Oct 19 10:50 README.TXT
-rw--- 1 justa justa  212 Oct 19 10:49 
VeraCrypt_1.19_Bundle.7z.checksums
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:49 VeraCrypt_1.19_Bundle.7z.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa  9157326 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt_1.19.dmg
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt_1.19.dmg.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa 17120742 Oct 19 10:48 veracrypt-1.19-setup.tar.bz2
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:48 veracrypt-1.19-setup.tar.bz2.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa  661 Oct 19 10:50 veracrypt-1.19-sha256sum.txt
-rw--- 1 justa justa 1109 Oct 19 10:50 veracrypt-1.19-sha512sum.txt
-rw--- 1 justa justa 23219050 Oct 19 10:50 VeraCrypt_1.19_Source.tar.gz
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt_1.19_Source.tar.gz.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt_1.19_Source.zip.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa   630400 Oct 18 03:57 
VeraCrypt-Audit-Final-for-Public-Release.pdf
-rw--- 1 justa justa   169417 Oct 19 10:49 
VeraCrypt-DCS-EFI-LGPL_1.19_Source.zip
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:49 
VeraCrypt-DCS-EFI-LGPL_1.19_Source.zip.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt Setup 1.19.exe.sig
-rw--- 1 justa justa  2896857 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt User Guide.pdf
-rw--- 1 justa justa  543 Oct 19 10:48 VeraCrypt User Guide.pdf.sig


$ md5sum *
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7466e0be6bebb21a1993caa3f04b5a8e  VeraCrypt_1.19_Bundle.7z.checksums
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f6d4187d72c638dfab2135e41d083a2c  VeraCrypt-DCS-EFI-LGPL_1.19_Source.zip
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86bab71e9fb126c9d63b1ad42110fb03  VeraCrypt Setup 1.19.exe.sig
32c6a9357e56e0c824637b53e092abdc  VeraCrypt User Guide.pdf
7493ae50eee5d20940b9686560b62673  VeraCrypt User Guide.pdf.sig


$ sha256sum *
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VeraCrypt_1.19_Bundle.7z.checksums
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VeraCrypt_1.19_Bundle.7z.sig
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VeraCrypt_1.19.dmg
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VeraCrypt_1.19.dmg.sig
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veracrypt-1.19-sha256sum.txt
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veracrypt-1.19-sha512sum.txt
db6016d91ef3acc6e566640a4580fae4013c8662c05e5deca502b1587fd03d84  
VeraCrypt_1.19_Source.tar.gz
1e4ec3d63ad1df2d6b4405f6e4b967a3b2bd0c789dfb97093392a9ff1db643e1  
VeraCrypt_1.19_Source.tar.gz.sig
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VeraCrypt_1.19_Source.zip.sig
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VeraCrypt-Audit-Final-for-Public-Release.pdf
3b1c39a6ba2a00051fd3a88030e7443b1bf67eb8a005864942c70cf1038b5de4  
VeraCrypt-DCS-EFI-LGPL_1.19_Source.zip
fc47d4ceb6fb4f90b43cc5ae2c0acefebf9ea306

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:41:31 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> 
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:48 PM, juan  wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:29:46 -0200
> > Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
> > 
> >>> On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'?
> >>> Please.
> >> 
> >> "Challenged"?  "Me"?  For "you"?  Hahahaha!!!  ;D
> > 
> > 
> >What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?  
> > 
> > 
> >> Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!!  Wow, my mood is much
> >> better now!  Thanks, Juan!!!  :D  :D  :D
> > 
> > 
> >And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can
> >challenge newspaper propaganda...
> >
> >Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's
> >actually no joke...
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> Do you actually know anything about the autistic spectrum?  I ask
> because my former girlfriends job was working with disabled children.
> She regularly worked with girls in their teens who couldn't even
> speak, not a single word. They were SEVERELY cognitively impaired.
> Their diagnosis was autism, nothing more.
> 
> Surely children are over prescribed medication in the rather fucked
> up world we live in, but you don't know what the fuck you're talking
> about.



I'm done with you john, but thanks for completing your fucked up
'profile'. Not only a pro censorship piece of shit, you
are also a pro psychiatric mafia piece of shit. lol...in a sad
way.






> As with your claim that global warming is a hoax.
> 
> Do you also think evolution is a 'hoax'?
> 
> Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen?
>  
> 
> John
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

Re: Clinton's NWO Agents Op and Sling Trash At Assange Via UN Compact, UK Court

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/10/dozens-of-suspicious-court-cases-with-missing-defendants-aim-at-getting-web-pages-taken-down-or-deindexed/

There are about 25 court cases throughout the country that have a
suspicious profile:
All involve allegedly self-represented plaintiffs, yet they have
similar snippets of legalese that suggest a common organization behind
them.
Of these 25-odd cases, 15 give the addresses of the defendants — but a
private investigator (Giles Miller of Lynx Insights & Investigations)
couldn’t find a single one of the ostensible defendants at the
ostensible address.
Now, you might ask, what’s the point...


Note how easy filing fake cases and charges in the courts and systems is...

Re: [Cryptography] changing crypto policy? Not Deborah Ross

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:19:52PM +0100, oshwm wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> On 18 October 2016 20:14:34 GMT+01:00, juan  wrote:
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:54:54 -0400
> >John Newman  wrote:
> >
> >> My god... something cross posted from the crypto list??
> >>
> >> But Juan says that list is MODERATED and only 'nerds' talk
> >> there   ;)
> >
> >
> > Yes, that list is fully censored. I don't find your jesting(?)
> > to be too funny. One wonders what people who make fun of free
> > speech are really thinking...
> 
> They use ridicule so that people self-censor for fear of looking like a fool.
> 
> Same as whats been done to privacy - "what you hiding?"

The simple one line response:

 I don't have to be doing anything wrong, to want my privacy.


Now go kick some establishment arse already.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

2016-10-18 Thread John Newman

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:48 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:29:46 -0200
> Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'?
>>> Please.
>> 
>> "Challenged"?  "Me"?  For "you"?  Hahahaha!!!  ;D
> 
> 
>What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?  
> 
> 
>> Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!!  Wow, my mood is much
>> better now!  Thanks, Juan!!!  :D  :D  :D
> 
> 
>And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can
>challenge newspaper propaganda...
>
>Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's
>actually no joke...
> 
>

Do you actually know anything about the autistic spectrum?  I ask because my 
former girlfriends job was working with disabled children. She regularly worked 
with girls in their teens who couldn't even speak, not a single word. They were 
SEVERELY cognitively impaired. Their diagnosis was autism, nothing more.

Surely children are over prescribed medication in the rather fucked up world we 
live in, but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. As with your 
claim that global warming is a hoax.

Do you also think evolution is a 'hoax'?

Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen?

John

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Clinton's NWO Agents Op and Sling Trash At Assange Via UN Compact, UK Court

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/584ow4/a_front_has_released_through_us_democratic_media/d8xzdh2

Reddit working on doxing the hoster...

Judge Mayer provides a strong case against software patents in Intellectual Ventures v. Symantec

Good moves happening in the software patents in America situation.

- Forwarded message from "Donald Robertson, III, FSF"  -
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 17:39:27 -0400
From: "Donald Robertson, III, FSF" 

Read online: 

The Free Software Foundation (FSF) has argued for years via its [End
Software Patents][0] campaign that software patents are a threat to
computer users everywhere and need to be abolished. In 2010, the FSF
even funded a documentary, ["Patent Absurdity: how software patents
broke the system,"][1] laying out the history of this destructive force.
More recently, FSF, the Open Source Initiative, and the Software Freedom
Law Center filed an [amicus curae][2] in the United State's Supreme
Court case of *Alice Corp. v. CLS Bank Int’l* (*Alice*). There, we
explained the dangers of software patents and [argued][3] that "not only
do software idea patents fail established tests for patentability; they
also violate the First Amendment." It appears that someone on the
Federal Circuit (the court that hears appeals on cases involving patents
in the U.S.) took note.

[0]: http://endsoftpatents.org/
[1]: https://www.fsf.org/news/new-documentary-film-patent-absurdity
[2]: https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2014/alice_v_cls-sflc_amicus.html
[3]: 
https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-joins-forces-with-software-freedom-law-center-and-open-source-initiative-to-fight-software-patents-in-u-s-supreme-court

That someone is Judge Haldane Robert Mayer, who in a stunning
concurrence in [*Intellectual Ventures v. Symantec* (links to a PDF)][4]
outlined the case against software patents. The argument will be
familiar to those who have read the FSF's Amicus in *Alice*: software
patents fail basic tests for patentability and violate the First
Amendment. And while the fact that it is only a concurrence (and not the
main opinion of the court) means that it is not settled law, it is a
huge step forward in protecting computer users from the dangers of
software patents.

[4]: 
http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions-orders/15-1769.Opinion.9-28-2016.1.PDF

Mayer lays out the First Amendment argument against patentability of
certain subjects, noting that limits on the subject matter of patents
are meant to protect free expression. Under U.S. law, 35 U.S.C § 101
(section 101) lays out the scope of patentable subject matter. In
analysing this section, courts have carved out certain subjects as being
outside the scope of patentability so as to protect freedom of
expression. In particular, abstract ideas and mental process have been
found too threatening to the free exchange of ideas to permit them to be
locked up in patents. After outlining the basics, Mayer goes on to state
that "Most of the First Amendment concerns associated with patent
protection could be avoided if this court were willing to acknowledge
that **Alice sounded the death knell for software patents.**"

This is a really significant statement, offering clear guidance in the
right direction as to how the Supreme Court case should be viewed.

Mayer notes that the Supreme Court in *Alice* "... explained that the
'mere recitation of a generic computer cannot transform a
patent-ineligible abstract idea into a patent-eligible invention.' ...
Accordingly, '[t]he fact that a computer necessarily exist[s] in the
physical, rather than purely conceptual, realm is beside the point'..."

Mayer explains that "Software lies in the antechamber of patentable
invention. Because generically-implemented software is an 'idea'
insufficiently linked to any defining physical structure other than a
standard computer, it is a precursor to technology rather than
technology itself."

Mayer continues the line of thought to its practical conclusion: "Given
that an 'idea' is not patentable ... and a generic computer is 'beside
the point' in the eligibility analysis ... **all software implemented on
a standard computer should be deemed categorically outside the bounds of
section 101.**"

Mayer even points out that the existence of free software itself is a
strong argument against the granting of software patents. That the free
software community has flourished for decades without the use of patents
"suggests that innovation can flourish in software absent patent"
restrictions. 

This opinion is exactly the sort of thing we've been fighting for all
these years. If only the rest of the court in *Intellectual Ventures v.
Symantec* had joined in with Mayer in recognizing that software should
never be subject to patents. While it is a great victory to see this
analysis produced by a judge here in the U.S., there's obviously more
that needs to be done before the 'death knell' truly sounds for software
patents all around the world. Here's what you can do to help bring about
that victory even faster:

* Keep up to date on the fight against software pat

Re: QuarkLabs VeraCrypt Audit Results

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:55 PM, oshwm  wrote:
> Are ostif.org a big target for DDoS?
> They hide behind Cloudflare and so become another useful site for gathering
> intel on ppl who would like to encrypt their files.

Lol, true. Though there may be no browser cf cookie linking,
(excepting the info integrated and bought sold on backend
among sites servers, cf, and agencies entities),
check if your browser reuses the same cf tls session
keys / metadata for cf across sites...

Surveillance: Perpetual Facials and Warrantless Chicago

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/18/study-lack-of-face-recognition-oversight-threatens-privacy-of-millions/
https://www.aclu.org/letter/coalition-letter-department-justice-civil-rights-division-calling-investigation-disparate
https://www.perpetuallineup.org/
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-16-267
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-MxWJP0ZmePT0hna01PZ2FqTVE?usp=sharing
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/FilesPDFs/drawing_blank.pdf
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-facial-recognition-20161017-story.html
https://epic.org/foia/fbi/ngi/#FOIA

A broad coalition of over 50 civil liberties groups delivered a letter
to the Justice Department’s civil rights division Tuesday calling for
an investigation into the expanding use of face recognition technology
by police. “Safeguards to ensure this technology is being used fairly
and responsibly appear to be virtually nonexistent,” the letter
stated. The routine unsupervised use of face recognition systems,
according to the dozens of signatories, threatens the privacy and
civil liberties of millions — especially those of immigrants and
people of color.

These civil rights groups were provided with advance copies of a
watershed 150-page report detailing — in many cases for the first time
— how local police departments across the country have been using
facial recognition technology. Titled “The Perpetual Lineup,” the
report, published Tuesday morning by the Georgetown Center on Privacy
& Technology, reveals that police deploy face recognition technology
in ways that are more widespread, advanced, and unregulated than
anyone has previously reported.



https://theintercept.com/2016/10/18/how-chicago-police-convinced-courts-to-let-them-track-cellphones-without-a-warrant/

The Chicago Police Department has acquired and used several varieties
of advanced cellphone trackers since at least 2005 to target suspects
in robberies, murders, kidnappings, and drug investigations. In most
instances, officers only lightly described the devices’ advanced
technical surveillance capabilities to courts, which allowed the
police to use them, often without a warrant.
Now, after a lengthy legal battle waged by Freddy Martinez, a Chicago
software technician, court orders and case notes were released,
painting a more detailed picture of how the second-largest police
precinct in the U.S. uses surveillance technology to track cellphones.
Martinez, who leads the Lucy Parson Labs, a Chicago-based nonprofit
that advocates digital rights and transparency, originally sued for
records in September 2014. He provided the released documents to The
Intercept.
The Chicago Police Department did not respond to request for comment.
“The use of Stingrays as a part of the war on drugs, which were
purchased with civil asset forfeiture funds,” demonstrates how
“militarized equipment” is disproportionately used

Clinton's NWO Agents Op and Sling Trash At Assange Via UN Compact, UK Court

https://wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html

@wikileaks doxes T&C framing scam


RELEASE: Full docs and investigation into the plot to frame Assange as
a paedophile & Russian spy #PedoPlot

The same front company behind the Assange #PedoPlot is also behind 2nd
plot to frame him as taking US$1M from Russia

A front has released through US Democratic media an elaborate story
accusing Julian Assange of paedophillia & taking US$1million from
Russia

The John Kerry private meeting with Ecuador was made on the sidelines
of the negotiations which took place pricipally on Sep 26 in Colombia.

BREAKING: Multiple US sources tell us John Kerry asked Ecuador to stop
Assange from publishing Clinton docs during FARC peace negotiations.


Included from link above for the lols...
https://www.facebook.com/toddandclare/posts/1191392577583146
https://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/17/1583749/-Julian-Assange-investigated-for-online-grooming-of-8-year-old-girl

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 18, 2016 7:15 PM, "Cecilia Tanaka"  wrote:
>
> It isn't cowardy, my love, it's pneumonia.  What will save my lungs, my
life, is the Science, the Medicine, not political discussions.  :)

It wasn't a polite excuse, Juan.  My pneumonia is worst now, after spending
a raining night out, listening a friend who was dumped and needed to put
the feelings out to avoid making some shit.

The last night was very long and sad, dear.  For a coincidence  (or not),
the Chinese Medicine says that the sadness attacks the lungs.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 18, 2016 6:40 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> >
> > "Challenged"?  "Me"?  For "you"?  Hahahaha!!!  ;D
>
> What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?

Oh, sorry!  Wrong preposition!  "By you".  Thanks, Juan!  :)

> > Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!!  Wow, my mood is much
better now!  Thanks, Juan!!!  :D  :D  :D
>
> And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can
challenge newspaper propaganda...
> Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's
actually no joke...

The "joke" is the  - h! -  "challenge", my dear.  :)

Sorry, I simply don't care.  I already said _twice_ I have no time, no
patience and no health to discuss anything with you now, Juan.  Sorry, I am
not well, baby.  Already said it.

It isn't cowardy, my love, it's pneumonia.  What will save my lungs, my
life, is the Science, the Medicine, not political discussions.  :)

You are very, very, very hard headed.  That's the reason why I am laughing,
sorry!  :)

Re: QuarkLabs VeraCrypt Audit Results

2016-10-18 Thread oshwm

On 18 October 2016 22:38:43 GMT+01:00, grarpamp  wrote:
>https://ostif.org/the-veracrypt-audit-results/
>https://ostif.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/VeraCrypt-Audit-Final-for-Public-Release.pdf
>https://ostif.org/ostif-quarklab-and-veracrypt-e-mails-are-being-intercepted/
>
>VeraCrypt 1.18 and its bootloaders were evaluated. This release
>included a number of new features including non-western developed
>encryption options, a boot loader that supports UEFI (modern BIOSes),
>and more.
>
>QuarksLab found:
>8 Critical Vulnerabilities
>3 Medium Vulnerabilities
>15 Low or Informational Vulnerabilities / Concerns
>
>This public disclosure of these vulnerabilities coincides with the
>release of VeraCrypt 1.19 which fixes the vast majority of these high
>priority concerns. Some of these issues have not been fixed due to
>high complexity for the proposed fixes, but workarounds have been
>presented in the documentation for VeraCrypt.

Are ostif.org a big target for DDoS?
They hide behind Cloudflare and so become another useful site for gathering 
intel on ppl who would like to encrypt their files.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:29:46 -0200
Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:

> On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> >
> > And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'?
> > Please.
> 
> "Challenged"?  "Me"?  For "you"?  Hahahaha!!!  ;D

What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?  

> Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!!  Wow, my mood is much
> better now!  Thanks, Juan!!!  :D  :D  :D

And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can
challenge newspaper propaganda...

Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's
actually no joke...

QuarkLabs VeraCrypt Audit Results

https://ostif.org/the-veracrypt-audit-results/
https://ostif.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/VeraCrypt-Audit-Final-for-Public-Release.pdf
https://ostif.org/ostif-quarklab-and-veracrypt-e-mails-are-being-intercepted/

VeraCrypt 1.18 and its bootloaders were evaluated. This release
included a number of new features including non-western developed
encryption options, a boot loader that supports UEFI (modern BIOSes),
and more.

QuarksLab found:
8 Critical Vulnerabilities
3 Medium Vulnerabilities
15 Low or Informational Vulnerabilities / Concerns

This public disclosure of these vulnerabilities coincides with the
release of VeraCrypt 1.19 which fixes the vast majority of these high
priority concerns. Some of these issues have not been fixed due to
high complexity for the proposed fixes, but workarounds have been
presented in the documentation for VeraCrypt.

Re: [Cryptography] changing crypto policy? Not Deborah Ross

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:19:52 +0100
oshwm  wrote:

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> 
> On 18 October 2016 20:14:34 GMT+01:00, juan 
> wrote:
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:54:54 -0400
> >John Newman  wrote:
> >
> >> My god... something cross posted from the crypto list??
> >>
> >> But Juan says that list is MODERATED and only 'nerds' talk
> >> there   ;)
> >
> >
> > Yes, that list is fully censored. I don't find your
> > jesting(?) to be too funny. One wonders what people who make
> > fun of free speech are really thinking...
> 
> They use ridicule so that people self-censor for fear of looking like
> a fool.
> 
> Same as whats been done to privacy - "what you hiding?"


I would certainly agree, but if I did, I'll be accussed of
'circle jerking'? haha =P





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Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan"  wrote:
>
> And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'? Please.

"Challenged"?  "Me"?  For "you"?  Hahahaha!!!  ;D

Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!!  Wow, my mood is much better
now!  Thanks, Juan!!!  :D  :D  :D

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 18:48:10 -0200
Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:

> Well, my dear Juan, one man's constant is another man's variable...
> No offenses, it's purely subjective.

So why do you bother addressing your criminal propaganda
to me? You believe in the 'science' that the psychiatric mafia
promotes? You are complicit.

And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'? Please. 

> As I said before, in this exact moment, I have no time, no patience
> and no health to discuss anything with you.

You are not really discussing anything. You just repeat
newspaper propaganda. Don't ever expect me to take you
seriously =)

> 
> Take care, kisses!  :*
> 
> -  c.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

Well, my dear Juan, one man's constant is another man's variable...  No
offenses, it's purely subjective.

As I said before, in this exact moment, I have no time, no patience and no
health to discuss anything with you.

Take care, kisses!  :*

-  c.

Re: [Cryptography] changing crypto policy? Not Deborah Ross

2016-10-18 Thread oshwm

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

On 18 October 2016 20:14:34 GMT+01:00, juan  wrote:
>On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:54:54 -0400
>John Newman  wrote:
>
>> My god... something cross posted from the crypto list??
>>
>> But Juan says that list is MODERATED and only 'nerds' talk
>> there   ;)
>
>
>   Yes, that list is fully censored. I don't find your jesting(?)
>   to be too funny. One wonders what people who make fun of free
>   speech are really thinking...

They use ridicule so that people self-censor for fear of looking like a fool.

Same as whats been done to privacy - "what you hiding?"


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Re: [Cryptography] changing crypto policy? Not Deborah Ross

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:54:54 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> My god... something cross posted from the crypto list??
> 
> But Juan says that list is MODERATED and only 'nerds' talk
> there   ;)

Yes, that list is fully censored. I don't find your jesting(?)
to be too funny. One wonders what people who make fun of free
speech are really thinking...

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:57:43 -0200
Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:

> On Oct 16, 2016 4:05 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> >
> > I say you are an ignorant nerd who thinks that any sort of
> > pseudo
> technical bullshit is Holy Science. You are just a recycled christian.
> 
> People > Technology, always.  But Science always was my real
> religion, my dear Juan.  I have real faith that technology can make
> the world better, minimizing the human misery.


Yes, moral issues take precendence over mere technical facts.
So, having 'faith' in technology doesn't make sense. 

Plus, it's quite obvious that technology can be used to kill
and control the biggest number of people in the most
'efficient' way.

And that is exactly what's happening right now thanks to your
'friends' at google and the rest of 'captains' of 'industry'.


> 
> I don't care about being a low profile nerd.  It only means I
> recognize the importance of technical knowledge to help the people.

Or to destroy them.


> 
> If you want to see the climate changes in person, spend some time in
> my country.  

You don't get it.


> It's very shocking see in person how the weather is
> becoming extremely crazy in the last years.
> 
> If you want to know austistic persons or Asperger Syndrome bearers 


I already explained the issue. Check the archives.

> in
> person and interact with them, please, visit my city.  It will be a
> pleasure to show you that it is _not_ simply shyness, but something
> much more complex.
> 
> I won't have patience, time and health enough for a flame war with
> you now, 



Fine. There's no point in you parroting for the Nth time the
same commonplace nonsense.  I get all the establishmente views.
There isn't anything 'punk' in parroting propaganda.



> but I would like to remember you that there are zillions of
> interpretations of the same facts, my dear.


So anything you say is just 'your opinion'  and 
'interpretation'. It is not true. End of the Game.




> 
> Personally, I try to respect _all_ the sincere Human Searches for
> Answers, using Science, Religions or whatever.  People are nothing
> without curiosity.
> 
> Take care and have lovely days and nights, my dear Juan.  Sincere
> kisses and hugs!  <3
> 
> And, please, no flame wars for now.  We all need a bit of peace and
> gentleness, time for having good ideas to protect everybody's rights
> to privacy and freedom of speech and expression...  and destroy or
> really change governments, of course!  <3
> 
> Ceci

US Election Candidates 2016

Since the media / system doesn't publish and people don't know...
Here are the other major candidates with enough ballot / write-in
access to win the election, in handy clickable and forwardable
format...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_&_Equal_Elections_Foundation
 "All candidates invited" debate Oct 25 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein_presidential_campaign,_2016
http://www.jill2016.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jill+stein

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson_presidential_campaign,_2016
http://www.johnsonweld.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gary+johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_politician
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_McMullin_presidential_campaign,_2016
http://www.evanmcmullin.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_McMullin
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=evan+mcmullin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Castle_presidential_campaign,_2016
http://castle2016.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Castle
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=darrell+castle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016

Obligatory...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Pirate_Party
https://pirate-party.us/

Matt Damon: Our Problem Is Civil Obediance

Some clips from Hollywood...

Matt Damon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XSNHATC3kQ

Woody Harrelson
http://www.infiniteflames.com/2016/10/the-entire-world-needs-to-hear-this.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB_onSRDA-Q

John Voight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDlO50aQmuI

The only problem in Guantanamo bay is that there is too many empty beds

2016-10-18 Thread Ben Mezger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEJbCAK3qQ

Re: The only problem in Guantanamo bay is that there is too many empty beds

2016-10-18 Thread Ben Mezger

(...) they can rot in Guantanamo bay"

On 18/10/16 11:36, Ben Mezger wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEJbCAK3qQ
>

Re: Rigging Election: Clinton and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 03:30:44AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> http://projectveritasaction.com/

This links to here:
http://projectveritasaction.com/news/james-okeefe-releases-raw-video-footage-nh-governor-and-attorney-general

which includes this interesting snippets:
"A week later, PVA released a third video, entitled “Australian Labor
Party Assisting Democratic US Campaigns in Violation of Campaign Finance
Laws.” This video shows Australians talking about how they are here in
the United States working for the Sanders campaign at the expense of the
Australian Labor Party, which is a clear violation of FEC laws. Again,
Mr. LaBonte sent PVA a similar threatening letter.

As a partial result of the videos, the New Hampshire House just passed a
bill which would require 10 days of residency in the Granite State in
order to be eligible to vote.  The bill is now heading to the Senate,
but Governor Maggie Hassan vetoed similar legislation last year.
"

Fascinating intertwinings. New Hampshire too. I can see how "10 day
residency as minimum requirement to vote" would be quite attractive to
dominant parties, and although it would swing both ways (50K free
state project settlers could swing key areas in this way too), it sounds
much too open to abuse, and sounds founded on abuse of, the so-called
democratic system. Minimum residency period is a question I had not
contemplated before... 3 months be reasonable? 1 year surely ok?

Re: [MONEY] Meanderings on the looming global currency shifts

The Australian situation is ridiculous given our limited population
size:

Australia Gets ‘Extreme’ Warning
https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/gold-silver-bullion-news/australia-gets-e2-80-98extreme-e2-80-99-warning/tabid/88/a/1375/default.aspx

AINSLIE BULLION
Posted | 14/10/2016

Back to News

If you missed it earlier this week, fresh off the IMF’s warnings (which
we discussed here), ratings agency Standard & Poors (S&P) has joined
them issuing us with a dire warning on our debt exposure. S&P’s warned
our debt, both public and private, has hit “extreme” levels and puts us
in the unenviable position as one of the worst in the world. In their
words:

“Australia would have one of the weakest external positions of the 130
sovereigns that we rate.”

As we have reported previously, Australia’s net foreign debt has
surpassed the trillion dollar mark at $1.045 trillion, up from $976b in
just the 12 months to June.

The implications are numerous. S&P’s warning joins both Fitch and
Moody’s ratings agencies that we are on our final warning on our AAA
ratings. You need to understand that losing that rating is not a slap
on the wrist but has the dual effect of automatically increasing the
cost of servicing that mammoth debt bill but also a larger potential
issue of capital withdrawal on a loss of faith in our economy as a safe
haven.

S&P also draw a clear comparison between us and Spain. Like us Spain
borrowed heavily in the domestic housing market which, like us, saw
soaring property prices and a general misconception that debt doesn’t
matter when it’s in housing, as many ‘learned’ commentators will offer
when dismissing our title of worlds highest personal debt to GDP. We
don’t need to tell you how that worked out for Spain (really really
badly if you don’t. They are the S in the notorious Euro basket case
‘PIGS’).

S&P call such investment ‘unproductive’. Whilst they didn’t discuss it
we remind you that our total national debt is now just over $6 trillion.
In the last 5 years that has risen $2 trillion, a 50% increase. Over
that same period our actual GDP growth was around $350 billion. In
other words it’s taken nearly $6 of debt to generate $1 of economic
activity.

Can you see now why they are worried? It doesn’t make us particularly
different to other countries but that ratio is about double that of the
US which attracts most of the tutt tutting.

What frustrates all of this is our treasurer in the very same week S&P’s
issue this warning was telling an audience at the IMF & World Bank that:

"There is not an economy in the G20 or other wise that would not want to
be Australia at the moment and would not want to have the strong
financial and banking system that ensures that we can have the
resilience to ensure we underpin jobs and growth in this country,"

S&P bluntly rebutted this:

“The government will point out that its fiscal position is strong — but
it’s not quite as strong as it used to be….And you don’t want to have
your fiscal situation adding fuel to the fire on the external side.”

i.e. get your act together Australian government or you will lose that
coveted AAA.

Leonce Kealy
Honorable Member of the
Electors' Parliaments of Australia
Cell: 0419643489
Int'l Cell: 61419643489
Gmail: eireu...@gmail.com
Also read daily: http://www/freestatevoice.com.au/
Shooters Join: http://www.shootersunion.com.au/

Stats check - "Taking away guns gives control to governments."

Having received this email doing the rounds, which appears to be from
2013, I've done just a little web searching to see if a) this has a
canonical URL, and b) if something basic is being twisted (a lie) or
missed (lie by oversight).

So far, I've found these URLs:

http://bergersbeat.com/gun-control-and-statistical-facts-collide/
(this link includes in the comments a "stat" that in an average year in
America, 17,000 of these gun related deaths are of children, so
something doesn't seem to add up)

This link duplicates the same 'article':
https://farmacyseeds.net/forums/showthread.php/26139-Guns-Gun-Control-Real-Statistics-Facts?p=34804

This is where I've landed on this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
which appears to confirm the stats below.

Of course we object to the statement "15% are by law enforcement in the
line of duty and justified" which is a blatantly lie, but
notwithstanding, the stats seem to basically match up.

Previously to today, I had assumed that the "pro-firearms"/ "guns are
relatively safe" position was a twist on the facts by pro-gun fanatics
(oneself comes to mind) where the slogan "guns don't kill people, people
do" rules the conversation. In fact, it seems that reducing the number
of double cheeseburgers one consumes in a week will drastically improve
your life span, statistically speaking, whereas banning guns is close to
immeasurable in this regard.

That sounds pretty black and white.

Am I missing anything here?
Zenaan

- Original Message -
Guns and drugs. Drugs and guns. There is a connection folks!!

Interesting Facts About Gun Control:

There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is
not disputed. U.S. population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016.

Do the math: 0.00925% of the population die from gun related actions each
year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant!

What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them
in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

•65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun
laws
•15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
•17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill
persons – gun violence
•3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100.
Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
•480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
•344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
•333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
•119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior
years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those
cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root
cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation - or about 75
deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher
rates than others.

For example, California had 1,169 - and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but
understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the
number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all
cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other
than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths?
All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but
that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault - all are done by
criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why
they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose – THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun
deaths
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (exceeding gun deaths even
if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors.
You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the
double cheeseburgers!

So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their
attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save
twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including
suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be
66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides
Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on
guns? It's pretty simple. Taking away guns gives control to governments.

The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the for

[USA] Hillary re Trump: “If that f – – – ing bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!...” - was WG: NBC Crew Crooked Hillarys massive Meltdown at Sept 7th

2016-10-18 Thread Mycg Info

The "fun" levels are rising - no wonder "they"re going after Julian
Assange :)

Was Subject: WG: NBC Crew Crooked Hillarys massive Meltdown at Sept 7th


-
 I've watched Matt Lauer the NBC's Host on our tv here in Australia.

Good on him if he dared to ask the question that many so called msm reporters 
would not ask Trace

http://www.stage2omega.com/sr1271-nbc-crew-crooked-hillarys-massive-meltdown-at-sept-7th-forum/

“She screamed she’d get that f…..ing Lauer fired for this.”
Referring to Donald Trump, Clinton said:
“If that f – – – ing bastard wins, we all hang from nooses! Lauer’s
finished…and if I lose it’s all on your heads for screwing this up.”


If true, the elites genuinely fear a Trump victory.

Re: Rigging Election: Clinton and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 03:30:44AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
...
> say, we need to win this motherfucker."
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/ProjectVerit
> https://twitter.com/@Pveritas_Action
> http://projectveritasaction.com/
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEE8w-v6Gg4j3ze3oX-urEw/videos
> 
> Don't forget, US Sec Of State Kerry just visited London.
...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrUUXOHgzg

No doubt things are heating up. Seeing the antics of the "great Western
powers" re Julian Assange tells me enough what we need to know about
Julian Asssange (another Aussie by the way - toot toot :) and Wikileaks
- causing not insubstantial distress to the "elites" currently in power.

"There is nothing that is hidden that shall not be revealed."

Julian Assange and those unknown co-horts must be thinking carefully
about the insurance files; as much as I'd love to know what's within
them, I hope we don't find out, due to what that would mean has happened
to Julian Assange.

Let's hope and pray that the world sees the USA having a relatively soft
landing of all this evident turmoil...

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

On Oct 16, 2016 4:05 PM, "juan"  wrote:
>
> I say you are an ignorant nerd who thinks that any sort of pseudo
technical bullshit is Holy Science. You are just a recycled christian.

People > Technology, always.  But Science always was my real religion, my
dear Juan.  I have real faith that technology can make the world better,
minimizing the human misery.

I don't care about being a low profile nerd.  It only means I recognize the
importance of technical knowledge to help the people.

If you want to see the climate changes in person, spend some time in my
country.  It's very shocking see in person how the weather is becoming
extremely crazy in the last years.

If you want to know austistic persons or Asperger Syndrome bearers in
person and interact with them, please, visit my city.  It will be a
pleasure to show you that it is _not_ simply shyness, but something much
more complex.

I won't have patience, time and health enough for a flame war with you now,
but I would like to remember you that there are zillions of interpretations
of the same facts, my dear.

Personally, I try to respect _all_ the sincere Human Searches for Answers,
using Science, Religions or whatever.  People are nothing without curiosity.

Take care and have lovely days and nights, my dear Juan.  Sincere kisses
and hugs!  <3

And, please, no flame wars for now.  We all need a bit of peace and
gentleness, time for having good ideas to protect everybody's rights to
privacy and freedom of speech and expression...  and destroy or really
change governments, of course!  <3

Ceci

Spying In Latin America

https://necessaryandproportionate.org/americas-reports

Who Can Spy On Us? A Visual Guide

A map of the state of communications surveillance in Latin America.

Comparative Analysis of Surveillance Laws and Practices in Latin America

Unblinking eyes: A legal analysis of surveillance laws in Argentina,
Brazil, Colombia, Chile, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico,
Nicaragua, Peru, Paraguay, and Uruguay with recommendations for a way
forward.

Re: US Nat'l Academies formalizes cooperation with intel agencies to further ensconce academia with imperial neoliberalism

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 06:35:03PM -0500, M373 wrote:
> Spy agencies team up with National Academies
> Expanded ties include new board, first-ever survey of social sciences
> and security
> By Jeffrey Mervis
> 
> In an unprecedented move, U.S. intelligence agencies are teaming up with
> the nation’s most prestigious scientific body in a bid to make better
> use of findings from the country’s leading social and behavioral scientists.
...
> Some observers see the new intelligence board as a successor to an ODNI
> science advisory panel that Clapper abolished after becoming the
> nation’s top spy in 2010. “It seems like at least an admission that the
> abandonment of [that advisory board] was a mistake and that there is an
> important role for independent advice from academics to the intelligence
> community,” says Steven Aftergood, who leads the government secrecy
> project at the Federation of American Scientists in Washington, D.C.
> 
> Gaukel may have inadvertently given the pending decadal survey its
> marching orders during his summit talk on what intelligence analysts do.
> “We’re looking for truth,” he said. “But we’re particularly looking for
> truth that works.”

"We used to say 'firetruck science and waterboard the bastards', but it
got out that
a) we are torturing brown and other folks, and
b) there's no damn scientific basis showing that torture works!"

"Well damn the scientists! They're supPOSED to make it right! What's
your problem with this torture anyway? At least we get answers and
sometimes get valid data on who to bomb next!"

"What's that? You say that can never be proven since the folks 'dobbed
in' and bombed to death due to the information gained from those that
were tortured, can never give their side of the story?
What firetrucking bullshit! They were BAD guys and we bombed the fruck
out o' them - so good bloody riddence!"

"'Thats a PR problem' I hear you say? Well, shiit! Now you got me! Ok,
ok, ok, O FIRETRUCKING K OK? Well, bring the damn scientists back then!"

"Fricken citizens! Fricken wayward fringe fricken jounralists 'exposing'
shit - what's -up- that shit?!!??!!! Bloody world's gone to shit I tell
ya!!!  Off with their heads I say!"

Rigging Election: Clinton and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies