Re: Résolu : retour en bas du terminal lors d'un rappel de commande
On 08/06/2015 11:40 PM, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: […] J'ai dépassé plusieurs fois dans ma vie les limites qui mènent à la honte (et bien plus qu'ici) et j'ai décidé que ça n'aidait pas alors maintenant j'accepte mes déficiences et je bannis la honte (bon, c'est la théorie...). Perso, j’ai éliminé une source de honte : la procrastination. Je ne remets plus jamais rien au lendemain : j’annule ! :oD Du coup la honte, ça peut être utile. Ça fait 32h que je pense à écrire ce message mais je reporte joyeusement... Faut dire aussi qu'en général, si je me rappelle bien, j'ai plutôt honte de ce que j'ai fait que le contraire ;) -- mireero -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c6e97d$0$2976$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Mise à jour wheezy - jessie
On 08/07/2015 06:40 PM, Jack.R wrote: Bonjour, J'en suis à ma 3ème migration wheezy - jessie et à la 3ème qui se passe mal. Il faut dire qu'à chaque fois c'est sur du matériel ancien. Pour le premier un IBM X30, soucis de LKMS solutionné en rajoutant des paramètres de boot du noyau dans /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet i915.modeset=0 vga=791 Pour le deuxième grub n'arrivait pas à démarrer le noyau. Après moult essais et échecs (et en ayant cassé pas mal de truc), je m'en suis sorti en installant lilo (via un démarrage en mode rescue depuis la netinstall jessie et shell sur /). Je suis un dégonflé, je n'ai pas encore tenté de réinstaller grub maintenant que cela fonctionne. Pour le 3ème (carte Supermicro X7SPA-HF ATOM D510), en cours de mise à jour, impossible d'installer le nouveau kernel, pas assez de place sur /lib. Le disque est partitionné comme suit (installation de squeeze mise à jour en wheezy puis changement de carte mère si je me souviens bien): /sda1 / /sda5 /usr /sda6 /var /sda7 swap /sda8 /tmp /sda9 /home Qu'à cela ne tienne, il y a plein de lace sur /home, je déplace /lib dans /home et crée un lien symbolique de /lib vers /home/lib. Je relance apt-get dist-upgrade et tout roule. Je reboot et là: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Un boot sur le CD netinstall de jessie me mélange toutes les interfaces réseau et ne me permet pas d'ouvrir un shell sur /dev/sda1 A noter que firmware-linux-nonfree n'est pas installé, c'est peut-être là que j'ai fait une autre erreur. Des suggestions avant que je ne fasse façon bourrin ? sortie du disque de la machine, copie le contenu de sda5 à 9 ailleurs, supprime /sda5 à 9,agrandissement /sda1, recrée les partitions /sda5 à 9, recopie le contenu de sda5 à 9, suppression du lien symbolique /lib, transfert de /home/lib dans /lib, réinstallation du disque dans la machine, prières, reboot Merci d'avance pour vos lumières. Salut, Ici, si j'ai bien compris, quand tu parles de /lib, c'est de /usr/lib qu'il s'agit? Ou alors plutôt, /lib est monté sur sda5 au lieu de /usr? Bref, 2 remarques: × La méthode bourrin me semble plus propre, ça ne casse pas la compartimentation qu'apporte des partitions séparées et les avantages recherchés (genre aide à la sauvegarde, options de montage distinctes...). × Y'aurait pas un souci lorsque certain exécutables accèdent à des librairies dans [/usr]/lib, sachant que certains outils ne déréférencent pas les liens symboliques et s'attendent donc à trouver leur librairie (par ex) dans un [/usr]/lib dur. Peut-être que le système a continué à fonctionner après ton /lib dans /home parce que certaines librairies clef comme la libc par exemple étaient déjà en mémoire lors du déplacement et donc toujours accessible. Mais plus lors d'un reboot. Pour finir, si tu as plein de place dans /home, tu peux peut-être y placer directement /lib en coupant la partition en 2, ce serait plus rapide que de chercher à redimensionner /sda5. Bon courage... -- mireero -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c6f715$0$3293$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: HS : Tkinter
On 09/08/2015 00:00, moi-meme wrote: Mais j'ai 2 conditions de sortie de la mainloop (une variable fait le distingo et la suite ne pose pas de problème). Je ne comprends pas le une variable fait le distingo. Tu peux préciser ? Ou montrer le code ? La deuxième solution est la plus simple. Je ne sais pas comment sortir par les 2 bouton en changeant la variable en même temps car la méthode.quit n'autorise pas d'argument. Je ne comprends pas. Tu as deux boutons dans ta fenêtre, et tu veux que les deux quittent le programme ? Ou tu veux que les deux boutons quittent le programme, mais en affectant une valeur à ta variable selon le bouton qu'on a cliqué ? Tu n'as qu'à faire ça : def quitter_b1(): variable=quelquechose fenetre.quit() def quitter_b2(): variable=autrechose fenetre.quit() b1=Button(..., command=quitter_b1) b2=Button(..., command=quitter_b2) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c71876.1000...@gmail.com
Re: HS : Tkinter
On 09/08/2015 00:00, moi-meme wrote: Mais j'ai 2 conditions de sortie de la mainloop (une variable fait le distingo et la suite ne pose pas de problème). Je ne comprends pas le une variable fait le distingo. Tu peux préciser ? Ou montrer le code ? La deuxième solution est la plus simple. Je ne sais pas comment sortir par les 2 bouton en changeant la variable en même temps car la méthode.quit n'autorise pas d'argument. Je ne comprends pas. Tu as deux boutons dans ta fenêtre, et tu veux que les deux quittent le programme ? Ou tu veux que les deux boutons quittent le programme, mais en affectant une valeur à ta variable selon le bouton qu'on a cliqué ? Tu n'as qu'à faire ça : def quitter_b1(): variable=quelquechose fenetre.quit() def quitter_b2(): variable=autrechose fenetre.quit() b1=Button(..., command=quitter_b1) b2=Button(..., command=quitter_b2) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7189e.3080...@gmail.com
Re: cron toutes les 25 secondes
On Sunday 09 August 2015 00:40:36 Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote: Le Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:40:32 +0200, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Mon fichier /var/log/auth.log indique : = Aug 8 22:25:01 CRON[7327]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) Aug 8 22:25:29 CRON[7301]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root Aug 8 22:26:59 CRON[7327]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root Aug 8 22:27:02 CRON[7426]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0 = soit un cron toutes les ~25 secondes. Deux cron à 22h22, deux cron à 22h26... Comment est-ce possible, ayant un cron toutes les 30 minutes minimum de programmé ? (#crontab -e) Ce sont les jobs du système. Va voir du coté de /etc/cron*, un certain nombre de programmes ajoutent des tâches (genre recherche de mises à jour, reconstruction de bases de données...) à leur installation. Après, on peut gratter pour savoir ce que tout ce petit monde fait :-) J'ai à peu près la même chose sur mes logs à moi (ce qui n'est pas forcément une bonne chose ;-) Nicolas FRANCOIS J'ai attentivement regardé dans /etc/cron.d/tâches, et dans les répertoires /etc/cron.daily ... etc... , il n'y a aucune tâche toutes les ~25 secondes. Bon dimanche. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091118.19518.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
On 2015-08-09 12:39:32 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: If everything was not already complicated enough, shift, control and caps-lock have each a fixed value in the state mask, but all the other modifiers (from num-lock to alt-gr, including meta and super) arrive to the application as mod1 to mod5, with an arbitrary mapping. Applications (or toolkits) that want to allow alt- or meta-prefixed shortcuts are supposed to inspect the key mapping table to identify the correct modX. They usually get it wrong, frequently hard-coding mod1 = alt (to react to it) and mod2 = num-lock (to ignore it). And now the Alt/Meta modifier should be called Alt instead of Meta as some applications (e.g. Firefox) don't support Meta. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809112524.ga6...@ioooi.vinc17.net
Re: Permitir videollamadas con imo en iptables
El Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:24:49 +0200, Hospital Oftalmológico escribió: Estimados, Ese html... Necesito configurar mi firewall con iptables para que un grupo de usuarios conectados a un Access Point ubicado dentro de mi red local puedan utilizar el chat, llamadas y videollamadas de imo desde sus celulares android a través de la wifi. Mi servidor tiene instalado Debian GNU/Linux 7.0, además de los servicios DNS, DHCP, PROXY, FIREWALL. A continuación les muestro el script de iptables que utilizo el cual no me funciona, (...) Sólo una sugerencia: primero tendrás que saber qué puertos usa IMO y después activar el registro del cortafuegos para ir viendo los progresos que vayas haciendo al modificar las reglas de iptables. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.08.09.11.41...@gmail.com
Re: Login clear screen
On Sun, 2015-08-09 at 13:35 +0200, Frans van Berckel wrote: Ik ben wat met debian-ports (sid) op niet standaard hardware (sparc64) aan het klooien. Mijn vraag is heel eenvoudig. Je boot het systeem, je ziet alle kernel teksten langs komen. En daarna krijg een login prompt. Nu wil ik één stap terug. Vlak voor de login prompt doen ze een clear screen. Dan komt de prompt mooi boven in het scherm te staan. Mijn nadeel, want hij veegt daarmee alle foutmeldingen weg. Heb je hier weleens te maken gehad? Hoe zet je die clear screen voor de prompt uit. Is daar een handig trucje voor? Veel oude webteksten door genomen. Maar ik heb het nu gevonden ... # nano /etc/inittab En deze lijn vervangen 1:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 Voor deze lijn 1:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1 Met vriendelijke groet, Frans van Berckel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1439122811.2975.22.ca...@xs4all.nl
[OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sunday 09 August 2015 11:50:48 Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 06:43:15 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Hello Renaud, I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Because it's not a tax. In effect, it is an apothecated tax. But we are reluctant to acknowledge that. The money doesn't go to the govt, it goes to the BBC. License revenue is still 40% (IIRC) of their revenue. 78% in 14/15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom The money that the BBC did get from the government has been withdrawn, but free licences are to continue, so that there is the beginning of a movement among the elderly for the abolition of the free licences. As I said, a minefield with tremendous political sensitivity and controversy. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091255.21877.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Le duodi 22 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : Still trying to grok the xkb stuff, i get the impression that at least on my system xterm gets to see Alt+Space, not a nobreakspace produced by general keyboard translations. I suppose everybody already knows this, but to check what keys applications receive from the X11 server, the xev program can be of great help. Less known fact: to get the current full XKB mapping of the server, the following command does the trick: xkbcomp $DISPLAY - (you can usually type :0 instead of $DISPLAY of course) The xkb_keycodes section is just a set of symbolic constant names for hardware keycodes, plus for some reason the label for the keboard LEDs. The xkb_types section defines types of keys, depending on the effect of alt, shift, ctrl, etc., keys. Writing a new type is not straightforward, but the existing types are usually rather self-explanatory. The xkb_compatibility section defines the effect of special keys. The xkb_symbols section defines the actual symbols attached to each key. And lastly, the xkb_geometry defines the physical layout of the keyboard, in case you want to display it. For a few more details, you can have a look at my personal notes: http://nsup.org/~george/articles/personal_xkb_notes.html But i may be wrong. Still did not find a comprehensive introduction to the model of keyboard processing in X. This is not comprehensive, but this is a start: Applications get KeyPress (and KeyRelease) events, with, amongst other things a keycode corresponding to the hardware code of the key, and a state that encodes the currently active modifiers (shift, num-lock, etc.). Bogus applications stop there. Correct applications then must call the Xlib (or another library performing the same task) to translate the keycode and state into a keysym (key symbol) or a string. Keysyms are for direct key handling: movement, keyboard shortcuts, etc. For text entry, the string must be used, otherwise input methods (even simple compose and dead keys) do not work. Then, some toolkits will add their own translation mechanism. XTerm uses the X Toolkit Intrinsics, aka Xt. Xt has a per-widget translation mechanism mapping expanded X11 events to high-level functions. Documentation can be found in the libxt-doc package. And lastly, applications can do their own mangling of the resulting keys or text. XTerm does, it encodes the Meta/Alt modifier for applications by either prefixing each character key with the Esc code or by adding 128 to the ASCII code of characters, based on the metaSendsEscape, altSendsEscape resource and a few others. Untangling the interaction of the +128 option with UTF-8 environments is left as an exercise to the reader. If everything was not already complicated enough, shift, control and caps-lock have each a fixed value in the state mask, but all the other modifiers (from num-lock to alt-gr, including meta and super) arrive to the application as mod1 to mod5, with an arbitrary mapping. Applications (or toolkits) that want to allow alt- or meta-prefixed shortcuts are supposed to inspect the key mapping table to identify the correct modX. They usually get it wrong, frequently hard-coding mod1 = alt (to react to it) and mod2 = num-lock (to ignore it). Next The Onion headline: a disgruntled Debian user opens fire at a X.org developers meeting before committing suicide by eating the full set of X11 reference manuals. (Although to be fair, the current X.org developers are probably suffering from that old design as much as anybody else.) Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:23:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: It was bound to have gone on line. But I haven't had to pay for one for 7 years so didn't know that. But I'll still have enough to worry about without flipping TV licences! A special tax was understandable in the days when a TV set was an expensive luxury. I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Cheers, Ron. -- El consejo de la mujer es poco, y el que no le toma es loco. -- Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809064315.36c8b...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Artefactos al mover barras en LibreOffice 5
El Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:53:10 -0500, alraparam escribió: El 08/08/15 a las 12:39, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:45:47 -0430, Jose Maldonado escribió: El 08/08/15 a las 10:37, Camaleón escribió: (...) Al final he puesto un bug en Document Foundation: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93275 (...) Tengo una Laptop Asus X750J con Gráfica hibrida Intel - Nvidia si ejecuto desde la terminal, cualquiera de los dos soffice - Intel primusrun soffice - Nvidia Puedo mover alguna de las barras, pero al tratarla de regresar a su lugar, se cierra el libreoffice (Versión: 5.0.0.2) y manda este mensaje: # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: (...) No se si este relacionado con el problema que tienes ... No le veo relación alguna pero igualmente deberías informar en el bugzilla que tienen. PD: Voy ha subir el log a bugzilla ... Sí, mejor. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.08.09.11.32...@gmail.com
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Hi,
Nicolas George wrote:
I suppose everybody already knows this, but to check what keys applications
receive from the X11 server, the xev program can be of great help.
Praise xev.
xkbcomp $DISPLAY -
Nothing conclusive to see about space or SPCE.
The xkb_types section defines types of keys
Leaves me clueless for now.
The xkb_compatibility section defines the effect of special keys.
I guess Alt+Spacebar is about
interpret Alt_L+AnyOf(all) {
virtualModifier= Alt;
action= SetMods(modifiers=modMapMods,clearLocks);
};
The xkb_symbols section defines the actual symbols attached to each key.
key SPCE { [ space ] };
And lastly, the xkb_geometry defines the physical layout of the keyboard, in
case you want to display it.
I already wondered about grey20.
This is not comprehensive, but this is a start:
[... some things which i knew and many which i didn't ...]
Next The Onion headline: a disgruntled Debian user opens fire at a X.org
developers meeting before committing suicide by eating the full set of X11
reference manuals.
We need to hand out sedating medication before sending people
into the X space. (There are already proposals in literature:
http://cordwainersmith.blogspot.de/2010/12/haberman-technovelgy.html)
(Although to be fair, the current X.org developers are probably suffering
from that old design as much as anybody else.)
I assume a carreer starts at Scanner and peaks at Haberman of Keyboards.
So probably i was just lucky to stumble over a workaround
which was introduced in VT100 to rescue unprepared users
from the Pain of Space.
(I should have re-read Cordwainer Smith on the first hand.
It's all there between his lines. Now i will be cautious
not to meet the Manshonyagger.)
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sunday 09 August 2015 02:48:57 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): I think I may have misunderstood. Do you have no licence, because you have no TV, or not pay a Licence because you are given one? Hint: look at my timezone (when you're awake). D'oh! As if I shan't have enough to do if my husband predeceases me, I shall have to acquire a paid-for TV Licence rapidly, if I am not to have their bulldogs after me. Or I suppose that I could just get rid of the TV!! Fast. And watch iPlayer after the event. Though not everything is available that way. TV Licensing is at http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/ and takes five minutes. However, the licence is per household so you're covered until the expiry date anyway. And you only need the name and address to check if you're covered and for how long. In theory, you can bin the actual licence (if they still produce them). I shall have to check. But I think that you are only entitled to a free licence, however long the piece of paper says, while the free licence holder is alive. Although while (s)he is alive, it does as you say cover the entire household. It was bound to have gone on line. But I haven't had to pay for one for 7 years so didn't know that. But I'll still have enough to worry about without flipping TV licences! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091123.17098.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Aptitude is broken
On 2015-08-08 13:35:10 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: Guess I'll wait until the churn slows:) And continue with apt-get. or you could reinstall the latest aptitude version that was working; this should be the version in stable and testing, 0.6.11-1+b1). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809104631.gb6...@ioooi.vinc17.net
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:50:48 +0100 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Because it's not a tax. The money doesn't go to the govt, it goes to the BBC. License revenue is still 40% (IIRC) of their revenue. So it was in France (called the Redevance), which did not prevent it being now collected with the income tax, and passed of to the ORTF by the Finance Ministry. Cheers, Ron. -- El consejo de la mujer es poco, y el que no le toma es loco. -- Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809070320.0783c...@ron.cerrocora.org
Permitir videollamadas con imo en iptables
Estimados, Necesito configurar mi firewall con iptables para que un grupo de usuarios conectados a un Access Point ubicado dentro de mi red local puedan utilizar el chat, llamadas y videollamadas de imo desde sus celulares android a través de la wifi. Mi servidor tiene instalado Debian GNU/Linux 7.0, además de los servicios DNS, DHCP, PROXY, FIREWALL. A continuación les muestro el script de iptables que utilizo el cual no me funciona, #!/bin/sh # Primero borramos todas las reglas previas que puedan existir iptables -F iptables -X iptables -Z iptables -t nat -F # Definimos la politica por defecto sea ACEPTAR iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT iptables -t nat -P PREROUTING ACCEPT iptables -t nat -P POSTROUTING ACCEPT # Redirigimos el 80,443 a 3128 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 # Aceptamos todas las comunicaciones localhost iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT # MAC por IPs permitidas HOSPITAL. iptables -t filter -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.x -d 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -m mac --mac-source xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx -j ACCEPT iptables -t filter -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.x -d 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -m mac --mac-source xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx -j ACCEPT # ... # Enmascaramos las peticiones a los puertos 5004, 5060, 5062 directo hacia afuera y permitimos que atraviecen el servidor iptables -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5004 -o eth0 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5004 -j ACCEPT iptables -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p udp --dport 5004 -o eth0 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p udp --dport 5004 -j ACCEPT iptables -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5060 -o eth0 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5004 -j ACCEPT iptables -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p udp --dport 5060 -o eth0 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT iptables -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5062 -o eth0 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5004 -j ACCEPT iptables -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p udp --dport 5062 -o eth0 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p udp --dport 5062 -j ACCEPT # Abrimos los puertos 5060, 5062, 5004 iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5062 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p udp --dport 5062 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p tcp --dport 5004 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p udp --dport 5004 -j ACCEPT # LIBERAR IMO iptables -A INPUT -d 64.13.128.0/18 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -d imo.im -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -d 64.13.128.0/18 -j ACCEPT Aceptamos SMTP, POP3, HTTP y HTTPS iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 3128 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp --dport 3128 -j ACCEPT # Denegamos resto de comunicaciones iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j DROP # Hacemos NAT iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE # Activamos el enrutamiento echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward echo OK Un cordial saludo y perdonen las molestias que les pueda ocasionar, Gracias anticipadas,
Re: Login clear screen
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 01:35:29PM +0200, Frans van Berckel wrote: Ik ben wat met debian-ports (sid) op niet standaard hardware (sparc64) aan het klooien. Mijn vraag is heel eenvoudig. Je boot het systeem, je ziet alle kernel teksten langs komen. En daarna krijg een login prompt. Nu wil ik één stap terug. Vlak voor de login prompt doen ze een clear screen. Dan komt de prompt mooi boven in het scherm te staan. Mijn nadeel, want hij veegt daarmee alle foutmeldingen weg. Heb je hier weleens te maken gehad? Hoe zet je die clear screen voor de prompt uit. Is daar een handig trucje voor? :r!aptitude show bootlogd Pakket: bootlogd Nieuw: ja Staat: niet geïnstalleerd Versie: 2.88dsf-41+deb7u1 Prioriteit: optioneel Sectie: admin Beheerder: Debian sysvinit maintainers pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Architectuur: i386 Ongecomprimeerde grootte: 119 k Hangt af van: libc6 (= 2.4), lsb-base (= 3.2-14) Breekt: initscripts ( 2.88dsf-17), sysvinit-utils ( 2.88dsf-17) Vervangt: initscripts ( 2.88dsf-17), sysvinit-utils ( 2.88dsf-17) Beschrijving: daemon to log boot messages bootlogd logs all messages printed to the system console during system boot, and records those messages to a logfile. Homepage: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809115546.gh27...@gpm.stappers.nl
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Le duodi 22 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
I guess Alt+Spacebar is about
interpret Alt_L+AnyOf(all) {
virtualModifier= Alt;
action= SetMods(modifiers=modMapMods,clearLocks);
};
I do not think so. IIUC, it means that Alt_L enables the Alt virtual
modifier. This virtual modifiers is then used in type definitions like:
type CTRL+ALT {
modifiers= Shift+Control+Alt+LevelThree;
map[Shift]= Level2;
preserve[Shift]= Shift;
map[LevelThree]= Level3;
map[Shift+LevelThree]= Level4;
preserve[Shift+LevelThree]= Shift;
map[Control+Alt]= Level5;
level_name[Level1]= Base;
level_name[Level2]= Shift;
level_name[Level3]= Alt Base;
level_name[Level4]= Shift Alt;
level_name[Level5]= Ctrl+Alt;
};
and then these definitions are used in key definitions like this:
key FK01 {
type= CTRL+ALT,
symbols[Group1]= [ F1, F1, F1,
F1, XF86Switch_VT_1 ]
};
That codes that Control+Alt+FK01 yields the XF86Switch_VT_1 keysym. And
lately, the magic of the compatibility section:
interpret XF86Switch_VT_1+AnyOfOrNone(all) {
repeat= True;
action= SwitchScreen(screen=1,!same);
};
makes XF86Switch_VT_1 an internal keyboard control to change to another VT.
That mechanism is sheer elegance in its simplicity, isn't it?
(I wonder how many readers will catch that reference without looking it up.)
key SPCE { [ space ] };
In other words, at the XKB level, the space key is the most boring key
ever. The conversion to non-break-space happens because of XTerm or its
libraries.
Regards,
--
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Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 06:43:15 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Hello Renaud, I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Because it's not a tax. The money doesn't go to the govt, it goes to the BBC. License revenue is still 40% (IIRC) of their revenue. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Who's a sucker now? Edward The Bear - The Damned pgpUXP0XEB7tE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Neteja SPAM Llista
Companys, Des de fa uns dies ja tenim obert el mes de juliol. Només hi ha dos correus a la llista de traducció i són SPAM. Així que aquest mes és senzill. Gràcies per la vostra ajuda -- Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com _kiakli_
Re: Artefactos al mover barras en LibreOffice 5
El Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:35:42 -0430, Jose Maldonado escribió: El 08/08/15 a las 13:09, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:45:47 -0430, Jose Maldonado escribió: El 08/08/15 a las 10:37, Camaleón escribió: (...) Al final he puesto un bug en Document Foundation: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93275 Prueba activando la opción de aceleracion OpenGL, en mi caso ha funcionado perfectamente, usando el driver radeon y GLAMOR activado. Si te refieres a las opciones que aparecen en LibreOffice (Herramientas → Opciones → LibreOffice → Ver) tengo activada sólo la primera opción: (...) Si te refieres al controlador gráfico, está activado (o eso parece): (...) Raro. Has probado borrando el directorio .config/libreoffice y volviendo a marcar las opciones para usar OpenGL. (...) No, no lo he probado, pero parece que hay más gente con el mismo problema ya que han marcado el bug que puse como duplicado, aunque los informes son con sistemas windows, veremos en qué termina... Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.08.09.11.34...@gmail.com
Add some command-line program on startup
Hi everyone, I want to add some command line to start on startup, but I can't find GUI where I can easily add my program, so that I'll start as I start my computer ! Regards, Sumit Murari
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Hi, David Wright wrote: Poking around in /usr/share/X1/xkb/ I can see that rules/base has lines like: nbsp:level4 = +nbsp(level4) // level3 level3ns provide no-breaking spaces starting from level3 // This is good for typographers but experience shows many users accidently // type no-breaking spaces on the CLI (resulting in errors) I wonder about the ratio of the number of typographers and the number of many users. For the latter one should enable nbsp only on systems with no shell, or give it a visible screen glyph. Still trying to grok the xkb stuff, i get the impression that at least on my system xterm gets to see Alt+Space, not a nobreakspace produced by general keyboard translations. After all, this line in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm prevents the unwanted nbsp: *VT100.Translations: #override AltKeyspace: string( ) I understand that if xterm saw nobreakspace then the line would have to be *VT100.Translations: #override nobreakspace: string( ) I tried the latter line as replacement of the former. This gives me back the unwanted UTF character (194,160) on Alt+Spacebar in freshly started xterm. But i may be wrong. Still did not find a comprehensive introduction to the model of keyboard processing in X. (And possibly such a comprehensive description might be too complicated for me to map it to my actual question.) Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/25265560189705395...@scdbackup.webframe.org
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Re: Add some command-line program on startup
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 02:17:05AM -0400, Sumit Murari wrote: I want to add some command line to start on startup, but I can't find GUI where I can easily add my program, so that I'll start as I start my computer ! Hello Sumit, not sure if that's what you need, but you can edit your `~/.xinitrc` file. As an example, I have this line setxkbmap -layout us -variant intl which selects an appropriate keyboard layout. Is that what you were looking for? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[solved] Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs
Mike Kupfer m.kup...@acm.org writes: Rodolfo Medina wrote: After last full-upgrade, Emacs starts without X support and with the `Meta' key not being recognized. How to fix that? If you're running Emacs in tty mode, then I think the Meta key support is done by the terminal emulator. What terminal emulator are you using? Yes, I'm using XTerm, and the Meta or Alt role is played by ESC. But Meta/Alt is enabled appending the following line: xterm*metaSendsEscape: true to the file /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm. As for Emacs not having X support, which Emacs packages do you have installed? Are there any warning messages when you start Emacs from the command line? With the last full-upgrade, emacs24 was replaced by emacs-nox. Now, if I do: # aptitude install emacs24 , it complains that it conflicts with emacs-nox and suggests to remove it, that I expect will solve the problem. But, after all, using Emacs without GUI support is all right for me. Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87h9o86cf2@gmail.com
Re: Drive para Geforce 9500gt Nvidia no Debian
On 09-08-2015 14:58, Richard Antunes wrote: Boa tarde senhores, estou interessado em montar um computador e pretendo instalar uma nvidia. Encontrei uma GeForce 9500gt no mercado livre e gostaria de saber se o Debian possui drive para esta placa. Alguém saberia me responder? Deve funcionar com o driver nouveau. Mas eu sempre recomendo antes de comprar qualquer hardware dá uma olhada no h-node.org para ver a compatibilidade com software livre. Obrigado a todos. Richard -- Tiago Rocha É bom tudo aquilo que faço que diminui o meu poder sobre outra pessoa; é ruim tudo aquilo que faço que aumenta o meu poder sobre ela.” Antônio Joaquim Severino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7986c.3060...@openmailbox.org
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. You may have meant it to imply it, but I thought that Gnome 3 was still the default GUI in Debian 8. So your statement that it was a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME 3 meant to me that you had NOT included GNOME3 (the default), and implied nothing about what you had included. Some of us, anyhow I, need things spelt out a bit more clearly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091437.46498.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. I've just managed to find your thread opener, and you did in fact mention GNOME. You are quoting yourself inaccurately. But I was unable to find it before. You appear to break the thread every time you reply, which makes the thread very difficult to follow, and earlier emails very difficult to find. You also don't quote, so you really are very difficult to follow. Anyhow, you may have some important package missing. You could run tasksel again and install some of the more basic stuff that you left out. Or you could reconfigure gdm since that could be where the problem lies, since GNOME3 runs without it. # dpkg-reconfigure gdm Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091556.25871.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: unable to upgrade kde-full on sid
* Peter Baranyi peter.bara...@gmail.com [2015-08-09 10:46 -0400]: [...] Following your link I did not find any information for users, only developers. Do I have to wait until all packages are updated or is there another way? Іf you want to stay with sid: No. Elimar -- Do you smell something burning or is it me? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809162835.ga2...@galadriel.home.lxtec.de
OT - Particionar disco duro de 2 TB
Hola Linuxeros: Como Ubuntu está basado en Debian, es casi lo mismo pero no igual, por eso he puesto OT. Tenia un disco duro de 1TB, con Win7, en 2010 cuando compré el equipo le reduje la partición de Win7 y cree varias particiones para /home / /boot SWAP Le instalé Ubuntu 10.04, después la 12.04 y por último la 14.04 en el mismo disco duro del equipo, desde hace un mes he tenido problemas con el disco duro, no me montaba la partición /home y decía que no existía pero el Win7 arrancaba pero desde hace 7 dias no me arranca nada ni win ni Ubunntu, yo creo que es un fallo hardware del disco duro, he llevado el equipo a la tienda y he dicho que si el disco duro se ha estropeado, como creo yo, que le pongan uno de 2TB y le instalen Win, mi duda es la siguiente, yo en 2010 con el Live-cd de Ubuntu 10.04 reduje la partición de Win7 NTFS pero era MBR, ahora el disco de 2TB tendrá un sistema de particiones GPT, mi duda es: Con el Live-cd Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits 1.- ¿Habrá algún problema para reducir la partición NTFS sobre tabla de particiones GPT en un sistema no UEFI del 2010 y luego crear las distintas particiones de Linux?, según tengo entendido con GPT no es necesario crear una partición extendida para poder tener más de 4 particiones sino que sobre GPT se pueden crear todas las particiones primarias sin tener el limite de 4 como se tiene en MBR. 2.- ¿Seguirá funcionando Win después de haber instalado Ubuntu 14.04? 3.- ¿El GRUB me permitirá escoger Win o Ubuntu como siempre me ha sucedido con anterioridad? Con discos MBR 4.- ¿Como me recomendáis que particione los 1.8TB que pienso destinar a Ubuntu o Debian? Mi intención es dejar 200GB a Win o quizás menos. 5.- ¿Es peligroso tener una partición /home muy grande?, por riesgo de que se estropee y pierda todo su contenido, como parece ha sucedido con mi anterior disco. 6.- ¿Qué tamaño me aconsejáis para /home? 7.- He pensado los siguientes tamaños /boot 2GB / 20GB /home el resto, pero me parece demasiado grande para una única partición swap1GB 8.- Los tipos de las particiones he pensado todas “ext4”, ¿existe alguna mejor o más recomendable y más segura? Para Ubuntu o Debian y un uso doméstico. El equipo tiene lo siguiente: - CPU Intel Core 2 Duo - Tarjeta Gráfica NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 con 1 GB de RAM de vídeo - Memoria 8 GB de RAM - Placa Base, no me acuerdo ya que está en la tienda, pero creo que es una Asus PL4 o algún nombre similar Un saludo y gracias por vuestra ayuda y consejos David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/788292367.1636027.1439141353414.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com
Re: Drive para Geforce 9500gt Nvidia no Debian
https://h-node.org/videocards/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef?search_string=9500submit=Search On 09-08-2015 15:14, Tiago Rocha wrote: GeForce 9500gt -- .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c79cb8.9070...@inbox.lv
Debian no dell vostro 5480
Por um acaso alguém aqui tem esse notebook? Gostaria de trocar umas figurinhas. Abs -- Enviado via K9mail
Re: unable to upgrade kde-full on sid
* Peter Baranyi peter.bara...@gmail.com [2015-08-09 08:51 -0400]: hi, I have a unstable debian installed and I cannot upgrade kde-full It seems to be a matter of the gcc-5 transition [0]. [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg0.html Elimar -- Do you smell something burning or is it me? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809131002.ga17...@pipin.home.lxtec.de
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 16:15:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 09 August 2015 15:56:25 Lisi Reisz wrote: Or you could reconfigure gdm since that could be where the problem lies, since GNOME3 runs without it. # dpkg-reconfigure gdm If that doesn't work you could try the various methods of reinstalling. Lisi Sorry - reinstalling gdm, not reinstalling the whole thing. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091639.28753.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Drive para Geforce 9500gt Nvidia no Debian
Olá Tiago,obrigado por sua atenção. Encontrei o pacote nvidia-driver no synaptic e diz que suporta GeForce 8xxx e superiores. Seria esse o drive? Grato Em Domingo, 9 de Agosto de 2015 15:14, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org escreveu: On 09-08-2015 14:58, Richard Antunes wrote: Boa tarde senhores, estou interessado em montar um computador e pretendo instalar uma nvidia. Encontrei uma GeForce 9500gt no mercado livre e gostaria de saber se o Debian possui drive para esta placa. Alguém saberia me responder? Deve funcionar com o driver nouveau. Mas eu sempre recomendo antes de comprar qualquer hardware dá uma olhada no h-node.org para ver a compatibilidade com software livre. Obrigado a todos. Richard -- Tiago Rocha É bom tudo aquilo que faço que diminui o meu poder sobre outra pessoa; é ruim tudo aquilo que faço que aumenta o meu poder sobre ela.” Antônio Joaquim Severino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7986c.3060...@openmailbox.org
Re: Login failure after new install
I realize my interaction with the list is problematic. I am new to this, I don’t subscribe to the list itself, and I am interacting via the web page lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html On that page there are only three choices I can see for replying, none of which have the desired effect of adding the reply to the message thread as I would wish. Relative to the actual problem I have, my point is that I am doing a fairly vanilla install that leads to an non-functional system. I did not “leave out” anything that the install wanted to include; I only “added” GNOME as an optional desktop. I have tried several test installs on a different machine using various desktop options. KDE worked and let me login after the reboot but, it did have problems with the cursor being inverted and offset from the active pointer location making it very hard to work with. This cursor behavior carried over into the GUI as well. However, if the GUI was started from a TTY the cursor displayed properly and behaved normally. MATE worked just fine: no bizarre behavior with the DM, login works just fine, and the GUI works as expected. I liked the MATE desktop better then GNOME 3 so I re-installed the system on the original machine using MATE and all is well. So, from my point of view the original issue is moot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/68844b3d-3464-4973-9d1f-91c756cd9...@xmission.com
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
Hello,
Le 09/08/2015 17:19, Thanh Taduy a écrit :
Bonjour à tous,
Je me remets à vos connaissances sur les problèmes concernant BIND, car
je pense que ce sera un jeu d'enfant pour vous.
Je suis sous Debian squeeze et j'essaie de faire la chose suivante :
J'ai un domaine qui s'appelle admettons domaine.com
http://domaine.com, ce domaine possède un certain nombre d'entrées A
qui s'appellent admettons Public1, Public2,
C'est entrées sont connues publiquement, joignables de n'importe tout,
et elles sont déclarées sur un DNS externe au LAN.
Je voudrais maintenant rajouter des entrées qui seront privées (Privé1,
Privé2, ...). Ces entrées seront déclarées sur un DNS du LAN en interne.
La zone qui est déclarée sur mon DNS privé est par conséquent
domaine.com http://domaine.com.
Ma question est, comment dois-je écrire mon fichier name.conf ainsi que
mon fichier de zone de telle manière à ce que si quelqu'un du LAN essaie
d'atteindre un serveur Privé, le DNS interne lui résolvera le nom en
local, et si l'entrée n'est pas dans cette zone locale, le DNS
transférera cette requête vers le DNS de mon FAI.
Je vous remercie par avance de toute les suggestions que vous pouvez me
faire.
Bon dimanche
Thanh
Dans bind9, ca s’appelle des views .
Il te faut définir un fichier de zone par emplacement (alias plage
d'adresse IPv4 ou IPv6) qui requête le DNS :
et dans la configuration de bind (simple exemple) :
view net0 {
match-clients { 192.168.0.0/24; };
recursion yes;
zone domaine.com {
type master;
file /etc/bind/zones/db.net0.domaine.com;
};
};
view net1 {
match-clients { 192.168.1.0/24; };
recursion yes;
zone domaine.com {
type master;
file /etc/bind/zones/db.net1.domaine.com;
};
};
En espérant que cela aide.
@+
Christophe.
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unable to upgrade kde-full on sid
hi,
I have a unstable debian installed and I cannot upgrade kde-full with
aptitude:
aptitude install kde-full
The following packages will be upgraded:
kde-full{b}
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
kdeaccessibility kdesdk kdetoys kdewebdev
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 432 not upgraded.
Need to get 12.8 kB of archives. After unpacking 17.4 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-full : Depends: kde-plasma-desktop (= 5:88) but 5:84 is installed and
it is kept back.
Depends: kde-standard (= 5:88) but 5:84 is installed and it is
kept back.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) kde-full
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.
Nor with apt-get:
apt-get install kde-full
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-full : Depends: kde-plasma-desktop (= 5:88) but it is not going to be
installed
Depends: kde-standard (= 5:88) but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: kdeaccessibility (= 4:4.11.3) but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: kdesdk (= 4:4.11.3) but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: kdetoys (= 4:4.11.3) but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: kdewebdev (= 4:4.11.3) but it is not going to be
installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
As far as I know I have no held packages but maybe I am mistaken? In
/etc/apt/sources.list I only have
deb http://debian.mirror.iweb.ca/debian/ sid non-free main contrib
and nothing else in sources.list.d, and I already updated apt. What can I
do now?
thanks...
Re: Login failure after new install
It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6ee88c5d-1f45-4301-91c5-c1e29b5b9...@xmission.com
Drive para Geforce 9500gt Nvidia no Debian
Boa tarde senhores,estou interessado em montar um computador e pretendo instalar uma nvidia. Encontrei uma GeForce 9500gt no mercado livre e gostaria de saber se o Debian possui drive para esta placa. Alguém saberia me responder? Obrigado a todos. Richard
Re: BIND9 sous squeeze
je crois que tu as juste la récursivité à activer. ( allow-recursion ) F. Le Dimanche 9 août 2015 17h19, Thanh Taduy thanh.ta...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Je me remets à vos connaissances sur les problèmes concernant BIND, car je pense que ce sera un jeu d'enfant pour vous.Je suis sous Debian squeeze et j'essaie de faire la chose suivante :J'ai un domaine qui s'appelle admettons domaine.com, ce domaine possède un certain nombre d'entrées A qui s'appellent admettons Public1, Public2,C'est entrées sont connues publiquement, joignables de n'importe tout, et elles sont déclarées sur un DNS externe au LAN. Je voudrais maintenant rajouter des entrées qui seront privées (Privé1, Privé2, ...). Ces entrées seront déclarées sur un DNS du LAN en interne. La zone qui est déclarée sur mon DNS privé est par conséquent domaine.com. Ma question est, comment dois-je écrire mon fichier name.conf ainsi que mon fichier de zone de telle manière à ce que si quelqu'un du LAN essaie d'atteindre un serveur Privé, le DNS interne lui résolvera le nom en local, et si l'entrée n'est pas dans cette zone locale, le DNS transférera cette requête vers le DNS de mon FAI. Je vous remercie par avance de toute les suggestions que vous pouvez me faire.Bon dimancheThanh
Re: Login failure after new install
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Re: repo portable
apt-offline podría serte de utilidad. Saludos. El 07/08/15 a las 13:27, merlinva2...@grannet.grm.sld.cu escribió: No tengo conexión a internet solo a una intranet -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7657c.8010...@gmail.com
Re: Mise à jour wheezy - jessie
Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 08:45:41 +0200, mireero mire...@free.fr a écrit : On 08/07/2015 06:40 PM, Jack.R wrote: Bonjour, J'en suis à ma 3ème migration wheezy - jessie et à la 3ème qui se passe mal. Il faut dire qu'à chaque fois c'est sur du matériel ancien. Pour le premier un IBM X30, soucis de LKMS solutionné en rajoutant des paramètres de boot du noyau dans /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet i915.modeset=0 vga=791 Pour le deuxième grub n'arrivait pas à démarrer le noyau. Après moult essais et échecs (et en ayant cassé pas mal de truc), je m'en suis sorti en installant lilo (via un démarrage en mode rescue depuis la netinstall jessie et shell sur /). Je suis un dégonflé, je n'ai pas encore tenté de réinstaller grub maintenant que cela fonctionne. Pour le 3ème (carte Supermicro X7SPA-HF ATOM D510), en cours de mise à jour, impossible d'installer le nouveau kernel, pas assez de place sur /lib. Le disque est partitionné comme suit (installation de squeeze mise à jour en wheezy puis changement de carte mère si je me souviens bien): /sda1 / /sda5 /usr /sda6 /var /sda7 swap /sda8 /tmp /sda9 /home Qu'à cela ne tienne, il y a plein de lace sur /home, je déplace /lib dans /home et crée un lien symbolique de /lib vers /home/lib. Je relance apt-get dist-upgrade et tout roule. Je reboot et là: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Un boot sur le CD netinstall de jessie me mélange toutes les interfaces réseau et ne me permet pas d'ouvrir un shell sur /dev/sda1 A noter que firmware-linux-nonfree n'est pas installé, c'est peut-être là que j'ai fait une autre erreur. Des suggestions avant que je ne fasse façon bourrin ? sortie du disque de la machine, copie le contenu de sda5 à 9 ailleurs, supprime /sda5 à 9,agrandissement /sda1, recrée les partitions /sda5 à 9, recopie le contenu de sda5 à 9, suppression du lien symbolique /lib, transfert de /home/lib dans /lib, réinstallation du disque dans la machine, prières, reboot Merci d'avance pour vos lumières. Salut, Ici, si j'ai bien compris, quand tu parles de /lib, c'est de /usr/lib qu'il s'agit? Ou alors plutôt, /lib est monté sur sda5 au lieu de /usr? Bref, 2 remarques: × La méthode bourrin me semble plus propre, ça ne casse pas la compartimentation qu'apporte des partitions séparées et les avantages recherchés (genre aide à la sauvegarde, options de montage distinctes...). × Y'aurait pas un souci lorsque certain exécutables accèdent à des librairies dans [/usr]/lib, sachant que certains outils ne déréférencent pas les liens symboliques et s'attendent donc à trouver leur librairie (par ex) dans un [/usr]/lib dur. Peut-être que le système a continué à fonctionner après ton /lib dans /home parce que certaines librairies clef comme la libc par exemple étaient déjà en mémoire lors du déplacement et donc toujours accessible. Mais plus lors d'un reboot. Pour finir, si tu as plein de place dans /home, tu peux peut-être y placer directement /lib en coupant la partition en 2, ce serait plus rapide que de chercher à redimensionner /sda5. Bon courage... Bonjour, Je parlais bien de /lib et non de /usr/lib. La méthode bourrin a parfaitement fonctionné, c'était donc bien ma magouille de lien symbolique /lib vers /home/lib qui avait mis le bazar. Il est possible que /home soit monté trop tard et que le lien ne soit pas encore valide lorsque le noyau essaye d'accéder à certains éléments de /lib. M'enfin, / qui faisait 337Mo est maintenant à 1Go, je ne devrais plus être embêté par cela lors des prochaines mises à jour. Il me reste encore un serveur à mettre à jour (un celeron qui doit avoir 10 ans) et auquel je n'ai pas un accès physique à la machine ... Je vérifierais la place dispo sur chaque partition (en particulier /) avant de commencer. Je ne me souviens plus s'il est en lvm. Pourvu que ce soit le cas. -- Jack.R http://jack.r.free.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809165949.7f783...@traveller.ajs.home
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 15:56:25 Lisi Reisz wrote: Or you could reconfigure gdm since that could be where the problem lies, since GNOME3 runs without it. # dpkg-reconfigure gdm If that doesn't work you could try the various methods of reinstalling. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091615.02809.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Drive para Geforce 9500gt Nvidia no Debian
On 09-08-2015 15:42, Richard Antunes wrote: Olá Tiago, obrigado por sua atenção. Encontrei o pacote nvidia-driver no synaptic e diz que suporta GeForce 8xxx e superiores. Seria esse o drive? Também. No Debian você tem essa opção instalar os drivers não-livres (o pacote nvidia-driver no caso). Como o Debian é um sistema operacional livre ele não instala por padrão nenhum software não-livre, se fosse o caso você teria que ativar a sessão non-free[1] o que não é recomendado. No caso da 9500 GT você nem vai precisar apelar e ativar o non-free porque o nouveau funciona perfeitamente. [1]http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html Grato Em Domingo, 9 de Agosto de 2015 15:14, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org escreveu: On 09-08-2015 14:58, Richard Antunes wrote: Boa tarde senhores, estou interessado em montar um computador e pretendo instalar uma nvidia. Encontrei uma GeForce 9500gt no mercado livre e gostaria de saber se o Debian possui drive para esta placa. Alguém saberia me responder? Deve funcionar com o driver nouveau. Mas eu sempre recomendo antes de comprar qualquer hardware dá uma olhada no h-node.org para ver a compatibilidade com software livre. Obrigado a todos. Richard -- Tiago Rocha É bom tudo aquilo que faço que diminui o meu poder sobre outra pessoa; é ruim tudo aquilo que faço que aumenta o meu poder sobre ela.” Antônio Joaquim Severino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7986c.3060...@openmailbox.org -- Tiago Rocha É bom tudo aquilo que faço que diminui o meu poder sobre outra pessoa; é ruim tudo aquilo que faço que aumenta o meu poder sobre ela.” Antônio Joaquim Severino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7a306.4020...@openmailbox.org
Re: HS : Tkinter
Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 11:10:02 +0200, Some Body a écrit : Tu n'as qu'à faire ça : def quitter_b1(): variable=quelquechose fenetre.quit() j'avais presque bon manquait les parenthèses ça ne le faisait pas. OK ça marche ! merci PS : comme d'hab plus c'est gros plus c'est dur à trouver -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c79ac8$0$3066$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Login failure after new install
The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious problematic results. As an aside, the OS X mail client does behave as described I the quoted passage, but this only affects the display and organization of messages in the client’s mail folders. To the best of my knowledge it does not affect the functionality of the normal reply-to mechanics nor is it the cause of my difficulties with interacting with the mailing list, but I could be wrong. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/92ab6a31-bbba-4d9b-9b30-cfd1396d4...@xmission.com
Re: Drive para Geforce 9500gt Nvidia no Debian
Tiago, tem razão. De acordo com o link que do site que me indicou seria o drive nouveau mesmo. Então posso comprar sem medo? Blz.. Obrigado a todosAbraço Em Domingo, 9 de Agosto de 2015 15:42, Richard Antunes richardwas2...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Olá Tiago,obrigado por sua atenção. Encontrei o pacote nvidia-driver no synaptic e diz que suporta GeForce 8xxx e superiores. Seria esse o drive? Grato Em Domingo, 9 de Agosto de 2015 15:14, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org escreveu: On 09-08-2015 14:58, Richard Antunes wrote: Boa tarde senhores, estou interessado em montar um computador e pretendo instalar uma nvidia. Encontrei uma GeForce 9500gt no mercado livre e gostaria de saber se o Debian possui drive para esta placa. Alguém saberia me responder? Deve funcionar com o driver nouveau. Mas eu sempre recomendo antes de comprar qualquer hardware dá uma olhada no h-node.org para ver a compatibilidade com software livre. Obrigado a todos. Richard -- Tiago Rocha É bom tudo aquilo que faço que diminui o meu poder sobre outra pessoa; é ruim tudo aquilo que faço que aumenta o meu poder sobre ela.” Antônio Joaquim Severino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7986c.3060...@openmailbox.org
Re: HS : Tkinter
On 09. 08. 15 22:00, moi-meme wrote: Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 21:30:02 +0200, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : RPS ça doit être comme les virgules en Grosse-nompareille. texte corps=Parisienne c'est quoi Grosse-nompareille ? Il a mordu ! IL A MORDU ! Il frétille encore. L'humanité n'est pas perdue. ^^ *Dictionnaire de L'Académie française, 4th Edition (1762)* NOMPAREILLE (Page 218) NOMPAREILLE s.f. Se dit en plusieurs Arts, pour exprimer ce qui est de plus petit. On appelle ainsi Une sorte de ruban fort étroit. Un noeud de nompareille. Acheter de la nompareille chez un Rubanier. Il se dit aussi d'Une sorte de dragée fort menue. Acheter une livre de nompareille chez un Confiturier. De la nompareille de Verdun. NOMPAREILLE (Page 218) NOMPAREILLE *Terme d'Imprimerie*. Est un des plus petits caractères dont les Imprimeurs se servent. Il est entre le Petit Texte la Sédanoise, ou Parisienne. Nompareille à petit oeil, à gros oeil, Belle nompareille. On appelle Le plus gros caractère, *Grosse nompareille*, Il est après le Triple Canon. Et *Dictionnaire de L'Académie française, 6th Edition (1832-5)* PARISIENNE. s. f. (Page 2:346) PARISIENNE. s. f. Petit caractère d'imprimerie, qui est immédiatement au-dessous de la nompareille, et dont le corps a cinq points. On le nomme aussi Sédanoise. Au-dessous de la parisienne, il n'y a que la perle. Source : http://portail.atilf.fr/dictionnaires/index.htm Voir aussi : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps_(typographie) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7ba96.9040...@gmail.com
Re: two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}
On Sunday 09 August 2015 22:17:16 Bob Bernstein wrote: we Yankees are put off by apothecated, and begin, when we see it, to wonder if we have any prescriptions that need to be picked up at the good old apothecary. And quite right too. You are better proof readers than I. I see what I know should be there. And my spell checker was entirely happy. Sorry again. :-( I have quadruple checked hypothecated. It is right this time. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508092229.45033.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: pptp-based vpn
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 02:48:57 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): I think I may have misunderstood. Do you have no licence, because you have no TV, or not pay a Licence because you are given one? Hint: look at my timezone (when you're awake). D'oh! As if I shan't have enough to do if my husband predeceases me, I shall have to acquire a paid-for TV Licence rapidly, if I am not to have their bulldogs after me. Or I suppose that I could just get rid of the TV!! Fast. And watch iPlayer after the event. Though not everything is available that way. TV Licensing is at http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/ and takes five minutes. However, the licence is per household so you're covered until the expiry date anyway. And you only need the name and address to check if you're covered and for how long. In theory, you can bin the actual licence (if they still produce them). I shall have to check. But I think that you are only entitled to a free licence, however long the piece of paper says, while the free licence holder is alive. Although while (s)he is alive, it does as you say cover the entire household. D'oh! (My turn). I hadn't picked up on the significance of paid-for and just assumed that one of you paid the bills and all that sort of thing. For the longest time, both our cars were always registered in my wife's name because I never got round to changing it each time we acquired a new one and I took over the older one. It was bound to have gone on line. But I haven't had to pay for one for 7 years so didn't know that. But I'll still have enough to worry about without flipping TV licences! AFAICT you could put the TV licence in the name of your pet rabbit; so long as the address has one, they will not disturb you. Were you to get rid of your TV (and let your licence expire), they would plague you with letters until you made a declaration. (Even then they might not stop.) Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809214118.GA15659@alum
Re: HS : Tkinter
On 09/08/2015 20:24, moi-meme wrote: Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 11:10:02 +0200, Some Body a écrit : Tu n'as qu'à faire ça : def quitter_b1(): variable=quelquechose fenetre.quit() j'avais presque bon manquait les parenthèses ça ne le faisait pas. OK ça marche ! merci Tu peux aussi redéfinir fenetre.quit() pour vérifier de quel bouton vient l'événement. Mais je pense que ma première solution est plus propre. Je ne me souviens plus du nom de ces fonctions dans une fonction, mais c'est bien pratique pour gérer des interfaces graphiques. Content d'avoir pu t'aider :) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7a8ce.5060...@gmail.com
Re: [Sid] Conflit de dépendances : Gnome-shell ne fonctionne plu
Le 08/08/2015 01:16, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : On 07. 08. 15 22:04, Alexandre ARNAUD wrote: Le 07/08/2015 22:44, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Je parlais évidemment d’attendre que les paquets ne se cassent plus les uns les autres *avant* d’accepter de mettre à jour et de supprimer des paquets importants (ce qui est trop tard pour toi mais pouvait servir d’avertissement). Remarque, j’ai toujours un peu de mal à comprendre que l’on accepte une mise à jour qui fait désinstaller des paquets que l’on veut garder… Pour être tout à fait honnête je ne regarde pas la liste des paquets qui vont être MAJ. Je croyais que lorsque qu'un conflit de dépendance arrivait apt-get serait plus intelligent et ne casserait pas le système Salut Alex, Bin en fait, non. Comme Sylvain te l'as déjà dit, tu peux utiliser aptitude pour obtenir une liste complète des paquets qui seront mis à jour (et/ou ajoutés/supprimés), ainsi que des propositions pour la gestion des éventuels conflits de dépendances, *avant* de lancer l'opération. Il y a aussi les paquets apt-listbugs et apt-listchanges qui sont bien utiles lors des upgrades. Le premier surtout, il permet de mettre en pause le processus d'installation, juste avant l'installation effective des paquets. Le cas échéant, il affiche les bugs connus avec les ID relatifs sur bugs.debian.org. Ca m'a permit de nombreuses fois de faire le choix de ne pas upgrader et de ne pas casser mon système. Sous SID, cette vérification est obligatoire, car il arrive que l'état des dépôts ne permette simplement pas (temporairement) de résoudre tous les conflits… autrement qu'en désinstallant des paquets. En l'état actuel, aptitude me propose (au mieux) 87 suppressions pour éliminer les conflits, y compris la suppression d'aptitude ^^. Il convient donc d'annuler et d'attendre qq jours avant, éventuellement, d'écumer (ou d'envoyer) les rapports de bugs. Par contre, tu peux utiliser la commande « safe-upgrade » d'aptitude : $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade sans risquer de suppression intempestive. (voir man aptitude) hors-piste Si ce n'est pas indiscret, je serais intéressé de savoir quel type d'interfaces tu utilises pour pallier le problème de vue ? Contrastes; loupe; synthèse vocale; braille… ? Et est-ce que GNU/Linux offre de bons outils ou environnements pour ça ? … juste par curiosité. /… -- Félix Defrance PGP: 0x0F04DC57 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7c028.3030...@d2france.fr
Re: Login failure after new install
Quoting Cobra (ma...@xmission.com): I realize my interaction with the list is problematic. I am new to this, I don’t subscribe to the list itself, and I am interacting via the web page lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html On that page there are only three choices I can see for replying, none of which have the desired effect of adding the reply to the message thread as I would wish. That's odd because the links themselves have the necessary information, viz (for my previous posting): mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org?In-Reply-To=%3C20150809164643.GA10191@alum%3Eamp;Subject=Re:%20Re:%20Login%20failure%20after%20new%20install;debian-user@lists.debian.org mailto:deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk?In-Reply-To=%3C20150809164643.GA10191@alum%3Eamp;Subject=Re:%20Re:%20Login%20failure%20after%20new%20installamp;CC=debian-user@lists.debian.org;David Wright (on-list) mailto:deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk?In-Reply-To=%3C20150809164643.GA10191@alum%3Eamp;Subject=Re:%20Re:%20Login%20failure%20after%20new%20install;David Wright (off-list) MATE worked just fine: no bizarre behavior with the DM, login works just fine, and the GUI works as expected. I liked the MATE desktop better then GNOME 3 so I re-installed the system on the original machine using MATE and all is well. So, from my point of view the original issue is moot. Happy to hear that. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809210925.GA15417@alum
Re: HS : Tkinter
Le 10 août 2015 à 00:31, Alexandre Hoïde alexandre.ho...@gmail.com a écrit : On 09. 08. 15 23:31, Philippe Gras wrote: Le 9 août 2015 à 22:39, Alexandre Hoïde alexandre.ho...@gmail.com a écrit : On 09. 08. 15 22:00, moi-meme wrote: Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 21:30:02 +0200, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : RPS ça doit être comme les virgules en Grosse-nompareille. texte corps=Parisienne c'est quoi Grosse-nompareille ? Il a mordu ! IL A MORDU ! Il frétille encore. L'humanité n'est pas perdue. ^^ C'est comme le site de Jack, qui m'a réellement laissé dubitatif :-) J'ai beaucoup de respect pour Moi-même (l'autre), parce qu'il n'hésite pas à demander, quand il ne sait pas (bien qu'il eusse peu trouver lui-même (par récursion)). Moi, rien que d'imaginer que je demande « C'est quoi le site de Jack ? » ça me fout des frissons dans le dos. C'était dans une signature sur la liste ou celle des traducs d'aujourd'hui ça ressemblait à une timeline de twitter, mais sans l'aspect glossy + fun … uniquement centrée sur des rapports d'activité de Jack pour Debian. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7d4b8.6030...@gmail.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7c9cb22c-d047-416d-9468-861e945cb...@worldonline.fr
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Cobra wrote: I am new to this, This list is particularly welcoming to newbies. I don’t subscribe to the list itself Um...pray tell, why not? -- Bob Bernstein
two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}
Lisi Reisz wrote: [snip] Because it's not a tax. In effect, it is an apothecated tax. But we are reluctant to acknowledge that. I did a duckduckgo search for apothecated. I got a bunch of colonial dictionaries. Their definitions seemed to make no sense in context. What's the Crown's definition? P.S. I've been been fascinated by linguistics for .5 century due to Latin teacher reputed to have tutored Romulus et al and an English teacher reciting Beowulf in original with a running translation [*NOTE BENE* the quotation marks ;] Paraphrasing 'somebody', Inquiring minds want to know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7bd3e.6040...@cloud85.net
Re: two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}
On Sunday 09 August 2015 15:51:10 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: [snip] Because it's not a tax. In effect, it is an apothecated tax. But we are reluctant to acknowledge that. I did a duckduckgo search for apothecated. I got a bunch of colonial dictionaries. Their definitions seemed to make no sense in context. What's the Crown's definition? P.S. I've been been fascinated by linguistics for .5 century due to Latin teacher reputed to have tutored Romulus et al and an English teacher reciting Beowulf in original with a running translation [*NOTE BENE* the quotation marks ;] Paraphrasing 'somebody', Inquiring minds want to know. It's not apothecated, it is hypothecated, David
Re: two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Richard Owlett wrote: I did a duckduckgo search for apothecated. Same here only used google, which seemed to want to make me understand how hypothecated should be used. My hunch is the two words are equivalent in some vague sense of functionality, but clearly we Yankees are put off by apothecated, and begin, when we see it, to wonder if we have any prescriptions that need to be picked up at the good old apothecary. Oh well. -- Bob Bernstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.DEB.2.20.1508091709130.1966@qrovna.ybpnyqbznva
Re: two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}
On Sunday 09 August 2015 21:51:10 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: [snip] Because it's not a tax. In effect, it is an apothecated tax. But we are reluctant to acknowledge that. Typo and old age with recalcitrant fingers. Also lousy proof reading. I believe taht I have mentioned taht before. Sorry. :-( HYpothecated. I did a duckduckgo search for apothecated. I got a bunch of colonial dictionaries. Their definitions seemed to make no sense in context. What's the Crown's definition? P.S. I've been been fascinated by linguistics for .5 century due to Latin teacher reputed to have tutored Romulus et al and an English teacher reciting Beowulf in original with a running translation [*NOTE BENE* the quotation marks ;] Paraphrasing 'somebody', Inquiring minds want to know. 2. to allocate the revenue raised by a tax for a specified purpose http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hypothecated?showCookiePolicy=true Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508092227.34424.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: pptp-based vpn
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 20:23:34 Joe wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:50:48 +0100 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 06:43:15 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Hello Renaud, I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Because it's not a tax. The money doesn't go to the govt, it goes to the BBC. License revenue is still 40% (IIRC) of their revenue. Non-payment is a criminal offence, not a breach of contract, and is potentially punishable by imprisonment. The BBC does not have the powers of prosecution and imprisonment. Where the money ends up is irrelevant, it is collected by UK law, enforced by the UK government and courts. If it walks like a duck, etc., and when the government robs me, it's called 'tax'. When I was a boy, the TV licence fee was taxed (called duty) by the government at 33%. I agree. A HYpothecated tax. Unlike most hypothecated taxes, however, it is actually spent on that for which it is intended. Perhaps that's why the government is unhappy with the situation: they hate hypothecated taxes. Here, property taxes vary by town and county, and the sales tax varies from one side of the street to the other! http://cityofmhk.com/1486/Manhattan-Taxes Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809221317.GB15659@alum
Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn
Huh, don't give our stick government any ideas; TV has never had a license issue in my lifetime in AU. And if the LNP (Liberal/National Party - coalition or rather demolition!) ... succeeds in screwing us over more, it just might be on their cards :( We have pay tv, but plenty of free to air; same goes for radio. I don't understand people paying for Apple Music or any other similar service. Heck, we even get a good go with TuneIn radio app one day they may charge for it, but it's free. If they do, then there are plenty of free Internet radios and plenty of free IPTV around. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7aad0.4040...@affinityvision.com.au
Kablolu bağlantı kablosuz arayüz üzerinden nasıl paylaşılır?
Merhaba. Kablolu bağlatım var ve bu bağlantıyı bilgisayarın kablosuz arayüzü ile paylaşmak istiyorum. Debian Jessie amd64 KDE üzerinde Network Manager ile birkaç şey denedim ama başaramadım. Yardımcı olabilirseniz sevinirim.
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 14:29:56 -0400 (EDT), Cobra ma...@xmission.com wrote: The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious problematic results. Debian mailing list policy is for replies to be posted to the list only, without a CC to the OP (original poster), unless the OP explicitly asks for a CC. Since you've complained about not receiving e-mails, I'll interpret that as an implicit request for a CC. But just this once. Many people read the list via the web and don't want e-mails. If you want e-mails, you should subscribe to the list. When you reply to an e-mail from the list, you should change the Reply-To address to the list address, if your e-mail client doesn't do that for you, before you send it. Please read this: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ especially the section entitled Code of Conduct. A couple of points from the Code of Conduct are excerpted here: * When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied. * If you send messages to lists to which you are not subscribed, always note that fact in the body of your message. Also, though the code of conduct does not specifically require it, we prefer the usenet style of interleaved quoting here, not top-posting. (I haven't seen you top post yet, but I'm just letting you know since you're new.) Regards, -- .''`. Stephen Powellzlinux...@wowway.com : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1241536664.10551108.1439150737933.javamail.zim...@wowway.com
Re: HS : Tkinter
Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 21:30:02 +0200, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : RPS ça doit être comme les virgules en Grosse-nompareille. texte corps=Parisienne c'est quoi Grosse-nompareille ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7b14c$0$3316$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:50:48 +0100 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 06:43:15 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Hello Renaud, I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Because it's not a tax. The money doesn't go to the govt, it goes to the BBC. License revenue is still 40% (IIRC) of their revenue. Non-payment is a criminal offence, not a breach of contract, and is potentially punishable by imprisonment. The BBC does not have the powers of prosecution and imprisonment. Where the money ends up is irrelevant, it is collected by UK law, enforced by the UK government and courts. If it walks like a duck, etc., and when the government robs me, it's called 'tax'. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809202334.318d9...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: HS : Tkinter
On 09. 08. 15 20:24, moi-meme wrote: j'avais presque bon manquait les parenthèses ça ne le faisait pas. OK ça marche ! merci PS : comme d'hab plus c'est gros plus c'est dur à trouver RPS ça doit être comme les virgules en Grosse-nompareille. texte corps=Parisienne ;) /… PS Bien que ce message puisse être réprouvé, au titre de son inutilité, je plaide sa valeur aguicheuse en trait d'union. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7a98d.9010...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 13:52:05 Cobra wrote: I realize my interaction with the list is problematic. I am new to this, I don’t subscribe to the list itself, and I am interacting via the web page That is your first mistake. You do not have total control over the formatting of the message, and I have yet to consciously note that any webmail app I have ever tangled with even pretended to do threading correctly. I still avoid them like the plague, a decade change after they convinced all the winders folks that it was somehow the cats meow. lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html On that page there are only three choices I can see for replying, none of which have the desired effect of adding the reply to the message thread as I would wish. Relative to the actual problem I have, my point is that I am doing a fairly vanilla install that leads to an non-functional system. I did not “leave out” anything that the install wanted to include; I only “added” GNOME as an optional desktop. As other have said, Gnome3 seems to be the default for Jesse. I've not made that jump from wheezy yet as I prefer to let the infant mortalities to abate, I like a system that JUst Works(TM). I have tried several test installs on a different machine using various desktop options. KDE worked and let me login after the reboot but, it did have problems with the cursor being inverted and offset from the active pointer location making it very hard to work with. This cursor behavior carried over into the GUI as well. However, if the GUI was started from a TTY the cursor displayed properly and behaved normally. Odd, but I've never paid much attention to the mouse in a tty situation even if I could get it to work, That used to be easy a decade+ back in redhat 6.3 but died after fedora 3 IIRC. MATE worked just fine: no bizarre behavior with the DM, login works just fine, and the GUI works as expected. I liked the MATE desktop better then GNOME 3 so I re-installed the system on the original machine using MATE and all is well. So, from my point of view the original issue is moot. So now it seems, if I am following this fractured thread correctly, you are asking a linux oriented group, to fix Apple's WebMail? I only know of one person I've known for nearly 3 decades who is now at Apple, and webmail isn't something he is involved in so I won't suggest his name. Linux, specifically Debian, problems, someone here can probably address. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091546.07061.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Artefactos al mover barras en LibreOffice 5
2015-08-09 13:34 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:35:42 -0430, Jose Maldonado escribió: El 08/08/15 a las 13:09, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:45:47 -0430, Jose Maldonado escribió: El 08/08/15 a las 10:37, Camaleón escribió: (...) Al final he puesto un bug en Document Foundation: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93275 A mi también me pasa en sid + incoming, lo he puesto en el bug Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cal5ymzrhqr3yf2ff6gzhf9d4hdbkgukkhs8wjeoomkkxzue...@mail.gmail.com
Re: HS : Tkinter
Le 9 août 2015 à 22:39, Alexandre Hoïde alexandre.ho...@gmail.com a écrit : On 09. 08. 15 22:00, moi-meme wrote: Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 21:30:02 +0200, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : RPS ça doit être comme les virgules en Grosse-nompareille. texte corps=Parisienne c'est quoi Grosse-nompareille ? Il a mordu ! IL A MORDU ! Il frétille encore. L'humanité n'est pas perdue. ^^ C'est comme le site de Jack, qui m'a réellement laissé dubitatif :-) […] -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/594f182c-1825-4433-a47f-61dfed3ba...@worldonline.fr
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sunday 09 August 2015 20:23:34 Joe wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:50:48 +0100 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 06:43:15 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Hello Renaud, I cannot understand why the UK has not followed the other countries that have ditched TV licensing, and all the attending bureaucracy, and replaced it with a single check box on the income tax form... Because it's not a tax. The money doesn't go to the govt, it goes to the BBC. License revenue is still 40% (IIRC) of their revenue. Non-payment is a criminal offence, not a breach of contract, and is potentially punishable by imprisonment. The BBC does not have the powers of prosecution and imprisonment. Where the money ends up is irrelevant, it is collected by UK law, enforced by the UK government and courts. If it walks like a duck, etc., and when the government robs me, it's called 'tax'. I agree. A HYpothecated tax. Unlike most hypothecated taxes, however, it is actually spent on that for which it is intended. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508092231.23762.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: I have quadruple checked hypothecated. It is right this time. It's not as if you are a chronic or multiple offender, which latter adjective is in some counties preferred for reference to citizens who earn repeated arrests for driving while intoxicated, which I *imagine* to be a more serious offense than spelling boo-boos, but then Lord knows I am not an attorney, that is just my opinion, and I could be wrong. -- Bob Bernstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.DEB.2.20.1508091732430.1966@qrovna.ybpnyqbznva
Re: pptp-based vpn
On Sunday 09 August 2015 22:41:18 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 02:48:57 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): As if I shan't have enough to do if my husband predeceases me, I shall have to acquire a paid-for TV Licence rapidly, if I am not to have their bulldogs after me. Or I suppose that I could just get rid of the TV!! Fast. And watch iPlayer after the event. Though not everything is available that way. the licence is per household so you're covered until the expiry date anyway. I shall have to check. But I think that you are only entitled to a free licence, however long the piece of paper says, while the free licence holder is alive. D'oh! (My turn). I hadn't picked up on the significance of paid-for and just assumed that one of you paid the bills and all that sort of thing. Correct. I do! But when they said: change the name on your licence to your husband's and you can have it free, I said thanks and changed the name. It was bound to have gone on line. But I haven't had to pay for one for 7 years so didn't know that. But I'll still have enough to worry about without flipping TV licences! AFAICT you could put the TV licence in the name of your pet rabbit; so long as the address has one, they will not disturb you. Yes, but, slow as they are, I think that they just might pick up on the person entitled to a free licence being dead, seeing as how deaths have to be registered! He'll just have to take care to let me predecease him. ;-) Or wait until I qualify for a free licence myself. Were you to get rid of your TV (and let your licence expire), they would plague you with letters until you made a declaration. (Even then they might not stop.) At one stage I didn't have a television. I assure you they don't stop!! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508092255.47715.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: HS : Tkinter
On 09. 08. 15 23:31, Philippe Gras wrote: Le 9 août 2015 à 22:39, Alexandre Hoïde alexandre.ho...@gmail.com a écrit : On 09. 08. 15 22:00, moi-meme wrote: Le Sun, 09 Aug 2015 21:30:02 +0200, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : RPS ça doit être comme les virgules en Grosse-nompareille. texte corps=Parisienne c'est quoi Grosse-nompareille ? Il a mordu ! IL A MORDU ! Il frétille encore. L'humanité n'est pas perdue. ^^ C'est comme le site de Jack, qui m'a réellement laissé dubitatif :-) J'ai beaucoup de respect pour Moi-même (l'autre), parce qu'il n'hésite pas à demander, quand il ne sait pas (bien qu'il eusse peu trouver lui-même (par récursion)). Moi, rien que d'imaginer que je demande « C'est quoi le site de Jack ? » ça me fout des frissons dans le dos. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7d4b8.6030...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On 09/08/2015 19:29, Cobra wrote: The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious problematic results. As an aside, the OS X mail client does behave as described I the quoted passage, but this only affects the display and organization of messages in the client’s mail folders. To the best of my knowledge it does not affect the functionality of the normal reply-to mechanics nor is it the cause of my difficulties with interacting with the mailing list, but I could be wrong. I have always found that Thunderbird handles usenet much better than Mail, it is almost as good as slrn. But the world moves on doesn't it, for me Thunderbird has taken over from mutt and slrn because all my day to day work gets done on this iMac. -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7a7ca.9090...@rakupottery.org.uk
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 21:05:37 Stephen Powell wrote: Also, though the code of conduct does not specifically require it, we prefer the usenet style of interleaved quoting here, not top-posting. (I haven't seen you top post yet, but I'm just letting you know since you're new.) In order to top post, you first have to quote. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809.49063.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: OT - Particionar disco duro de 2 TB
El Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:29:13 + (UTC) David dreyes...@yahoo.es escribió: Hola Linuxeros: Como Ubuntu está basado en Debian, es casi lo mismo pero no igual, por eso he puesto OT. Tenia un disco duro de 1TB, con Win7, en 2010 cuando compré el equipo le reduje la partición de Win7 y cree varias particiones para /home / /boot SWAP Le instalé Ubuntu 10.04, después la 12.04 y por último la 14.04 en el mismo disco duro del equipo, desde hace un mes he tenido problemas con el disco duro, no me montaba la partición /home y decía que no existía pero el Win7 arrancaba pero desde hace 7 dias no me arranca nada ni win ni Ubunntu, yo creo que es un fallo hardware del disco duro, he llevado el equipo a la tienda y he dicho que si el disco duro se ha estropeado, como creo yo, que le pongan uno de 2TB y le instalen Win, mi duda es la siguiente, yo en 2010 con el Live-cd de Ubuntu 10.04 reduje la partición de Win7 NTFS pero era MBR, ahora el disco de 2TB tendrá un sistema de particiones GPT, mi duda es: Con el Live-cd Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits 1.- ¿Habrá algún problema para reducir la partición NTFS sobre tabla de particiones GPT en un sistema no UEFI del 2010 y luego crear las distintas particiones de Linux?, según tengo entendido con GPT no es necesario crear una partición extendida para poder tener más de 4 particiones sino que sobre GPT se pueden crear todas las particiones primarias sin tener el limite de 4 como se tiene en MBR. 2.- ¿Seguirá funcionando Win después de haber instalado Ubuntu 14.04? 3.- ¿El GRUB me permitirá escoger Win o Ubuntu como siempre me ha sucedido con anterioridad? Con discos MBR 4.- ¿Como me recomendáis que particione los 1.8TB que pienso destinar a Ubuntu o Debian? Mi intención es dejar 200GB a Win o quizás menos. 5.- ¿Es peligroso tener una partición /home muy grande?, por riesgo de que se estropee y pierda todo su contenido, como parece ha sucedido con mi anterior disco. 6.- ¿Qué tamaño me aconsejáis para /home? 7.- He pensado los siguientes tamaños /boot 2GB / 20GB /home el resto, pero me parece demasiado grande para una única partición swap 1GB 8.- Los tipos de las particiones he pensado todas “ext4”, ¿existe alguna mejor o más recomendable y más segura? Para Ubuntu o Debian y un uso doméstico. El equipo tiene lo siguiente: - CPU Intel Core 2 Duo - Tarjeta Gráfica NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 con 1 GB de RAM de vídeo - Memoria 8 GB de RAM - Placa Base, no me acuerdo ya que está en la tienda, pero creo que es una Asus PL4 o algún nombre similar Un saludo y gracias por vuestra ayuda y consejos David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/788292367.1636027.1439141353414.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com No es OT, te equivocaste de lista Pregunta en la de ubuntu -- Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809212939.059916e90391c708a283c...@angel-alvarez.com.ar
Re: OT - Particionar disco duro de 2 TB
Hola. El 9 de agosto de 2015, 20:40, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus arad...@gmail.com escribió: intentaste preguntar primero en la lista de MUGRU-BUNTU antes de preguntar aqui?? No entiendo el afán de este sujeto de decirle Mugrubuntu a Ubuntu, Ubuntu studio es una distro altamente recomendable para diseño y multimedia, y eso no tiene nada de mugruoso, ni mugre mas que la que parece tener en la cabeza este trol. Creo que una de las fortalezas de gnu/linux en general es su diversidad... pero bueno, no parece que todos lo vean así. No solo eso, sino que me gustaría tener la estadística de los miles de detalles que hemos corregido algunos usuarios de debian consultando soluciones que aparecen en las listas y foros de ubuntu. Se que este es un OT, pero a veces nos salimos por completo las casillas; por ejemplo a Angel Claudio no le gustó la pregunta, tiene sus razones, pero expuso su objeción con respeto, como debe ser y en esencia ambas respuestas apuntan hacia lo mismo. Creo que no es mucho pedir ese tipo de comportamiento. Saludos
no puedo torificar todas las conecciones con iptables
En debian no he podido torificar todas las conecciones utilizando iptables siguiendo las recomendaciones de esta página: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy Asumo que si sigo todas esas recomenciones al hacer cualquier conexión a internet esta me debería aparecer torificada con netstat -aptun tal como cundo hago un torify sin embargo ese no es el caso. Mi ip real me apace en conexiones con aplicaciones que no son tor, por ejemplo cuando hago un apt-get install , aparece en netstat la ip real conectandose a los repositorios.
Re: OT - Particionar disco duro de 2 TB
intentaste preguntar primero en la lista de MUGRU-BUNTU antes de preguntar aqui?? -- ** software libre no significa gratis: richard m. stallman http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista#resumen http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista/Gmail http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7f63e.3050...@gmail.com
ipsec no trabaja
He seguido las instrucciones que se dicen en esta web http://www.ipsec-howto.org/spanish/x257.html pero no he logrado que ipsec trabaje en Debian. En una appvm de Qubes con debian 8 si logre que ipsec trabajara utilizando la misma configuración. Me llama la atención que en modules.builtin del debian que instale no aparezcan los modulos xfrm resposables de ipsec mientras que en el debian de Qubes si están. Sin embargo los modulos de xfrm si aparencen en sus directorios respectivos en ambos casos.
Re: OT - Particionar disco duro de 2 TB
intentaste preguntar primero en la lista de MUGRU-BUNTU antes de preguntar aqui?? No entiendo el afán de este sujeto de decirle Mugrubuntu a Ubuntu, Ubuntu studio es una distro altamente recomendable para diseño y multimedia, y eso no tiene nada de mugruoso, ni mugre mas que la que parece tener en la cabeza este trol. Creo que una de las fortalezas de gnu/linux en general es su diversidad... pero bueno, no parece que todos lo vean así. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAACnk7YLHewE7RHfjjAZdBOO0NYuHg3sq6-D4=5XZdKHYDB=1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Violación de segmento
Al final voy a tener que hacer una copia del disco duro y reinstalar todo. Por supuesto no pude instalar el aptitude-dbg. Gracias y saludos no te deverias de rendir tan rapido, hay soluciones para todo aqui en GNU. yo en una ocacion me kede sin APT y aptitude, y pude evitar borrar todo vilacion de segmento me suena a un fichero dañado, si es que no haz borrado debian borra el cache de APT # apt-get autoremove # apt-get clean si tampoco responde, abres el siguientes folders como root borras todo lo quetenga dentro /var/cache/apt /home/nombre-usuario/.aptitude /root/.aptitude saludos -- ** software libre no significa gratis: richard m. stallman http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista#resumen http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista/Gmail http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7fa87.2090...@gmail.com
Re: unable to upgrade kde-full on sid
On 9 August 2015 at 09:10, Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de wrote: * Peter Baranyi peter.bara...@gmail.com [2015-08-09 08:51 -0400]: hi, I have a unstable debian installed and I cannot upgrade kde-full It seems to be a matter of the gcc-5 transition [0]. [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg0.html Elimar -- Do you smell something burning or is it me? hi, yes it seems to be the case. If I try to install gcc-5, it wants to remove 69 packages including kde-full kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-standard kde-workspace and a lot of kde programs: 19 upgraded, 209 newly installed, 69 to remove and 392 not upgraded. Following your link I did not find any information for users, only developers. Do I have to wait until all packages are updated or is there another way? I'll try to use a snapshot repo from July 31 or before. thanks
BIND9 sous squeeze
Bonjour à tous, Je me remets à vos connaissances sur les problèmes concernant BIND, car je pense que ce sera un jeu d'enfant pour vous. Je suis sous Debian squeeze et j'essaie de faire la chose suivante : J'ai un domaine qui s'appelle admettons domaine.com, ce domaine possède un certain nombre d'entrées A qui s'appellent admettons Public1, Public2, C'est entrées sont connues publiquement, joignables de n'importe tout, et elles sont déclarées sur un DNS externe au LAN. Je voudrais maintenant rajouter des entrées qui seront privées (Privé1, Privé2, ...). Ces entrées seront déclarées sur un DNS du LAN en interne. La zone qui est déclarée sur mon DNS privé est par conséquent domaine.com. Ma question est, comment dois-je écrire mon fichier name.conf ainsi que mon fichier de zone de telle manière à ce que si quelqu'un du LAN essaie d'atteindre un serveur Privé, le DNS interne lui résolvera le nom en local, et si l'entrée n'est pas dans cette zone locale, le DNS transférera cette requête vers le DNS de mon FAI. Je vous remercie par avance de toute les suggestions que vous pouvez me faire. Bon dimanche Thanh
Re: Login failure after new install
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. I've just managed to find your thread opener, and you did in fact mention GNOME. You are quoting yourself inaccurately. But I was unable to find it before. You appear to break the thread every time you reply, which makes the thread very difficult to follow, and earlier emails very difficult to find. You also don't quote, so you really are very difficult to follow. I agree: the OP really needs to quote. But I think there's a clue in Cobra's posting as to what's going on: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) I googled apple mail threading and could hardly believe the links I found. But this takes the biscuit: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH19125?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Mail (Yosemite): conversation A grouping (or thread) of email messages. Mail uses the subject lines, dates, senders, recipients, and other information from messages to group them together in a conversation, so they’re easier to find and follow. For example, Mail can group messages about a vacation trip, sent to and from multiple people, into a single conversation. Only the most recent message of a conversation is shown in the message list. A number in the top message indicates how many of the conversation's messages are in the current mailbox. Last Modified: Nov 13, 2014 So for Apple thread is an alternative alternative term for Conversation. Most of the other hits are about the difficulties of making Re: work properly! Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809164643.GA10191@alum
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 17:46:43 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. I've just managed to find your thread opener, and you did in fact mention GNOME. You are quoting yourself inaccurately. But I was unable to find it before. You appear to break the thread every time you reply, which makes the thread very difficult to follow, and earlier emails very difficult to find. You also don't quote, so you really are very difficult to follow. I agree: the OP really needs to quote. If he were to quote, even if he still continued to use Apple Mail, one could follow a bit of what he is on about. But by the time I can't work out or sometimes remember to what he is replying, and can't refer back because I can't find the emails, I just can't follow. If many of us find the same, it is no wonder that no-one has so far succeeded in helping him solve his problem. Even Gmail doesn't seem to mess threads up quite so badly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091812.29148.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: généalogie sous wine
Le 09/08/2015 19:04, alain a écrit : bonjour je désire faire fonctionner un logiciel de généalogie génétique 2007 dont je posséde le code sur un ordi portable dell qui sera réserve à cette action j'ai donc installé ce logiciel sous wine et le fonctionnement me paraissait normal (import GEDCOM visualisation d'arbre ,impression d'un rapport descendant) mais lorsque j'ai voulu importer un ficher PDF cela a été réalisé mais je ne peut pas l'éditer de même pour les fichiers ODT,DOC aucun affichage ne s'ouvre et un message d'erreur apparait pouvez vous m'aider? Le 9 août 2015 19:45, Michel ANDREU miche...@orange.fr a écrit : Bonsoir, Il existe un logiciel de généalogie libre : Gramps ; qui n'a pas besoin de Wine. Normalement, tu devrais pouvoir ouvrir les fichiers de génétique 2007 avec Gramps, qui reconnaît habituellement les formats des autres logiciels de généalogie. Cordialement. Michel ANDREU - Pays d'Auge LinuxMint LMDE Cinnamon version 2014 Linuxien depuis janvier 2008 Bonsoir En voici d'autres : http://framasoft.net/rubrique426.html https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logiciel_de_généalogie Librement, SL -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cafpklm+2i5-cfaigovob1ftin+5sgqd7dxznxho35zx3tuc...@mail.gmail.com
