> So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite
> anti-spam service and I would hate to lose them.
Well, no apologetic post here == bye-bye to the product, IMO.
What really irks me when this happens (I've had it happen to two beloved
"boutique" apps in the past) is that n
That is/was Day Old Bread's goal.
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Ben, you'd find Simple DNS Plus an easy cross-grade. We have used it
exclusively for all user-facing DNS for many years. We only use MS DNS
as a stealth primary.
Also, as Andy said, it's hard to believe your authoritiative domains
require more than a few dollars a month worth of DNS hosting -- som
> My experience with MS DNS is that forwarders are setup at
> installation because the installer assumes a blank forwarder means
> the DNS server will be unable to lookup addresses.
Well put. That must explain the feeling that forwarders are
recommended -- they've been turned on for so long that
> The challenge for me is in not using forwarding. For MS DNS
> servers, forwarding and recursion are tied together; turn off one
> and you lose both.
Incorrect. Turning off recursion turns off forwarders, but not vice
versa.
You can have a perfectly operating recursive MS DNS server that does
Ben,
Thanks for running your questions by me. Feel free to forward this
message to your Comcast rep. Even if he is unwilling to help you
further, there is information below that will help him be more
accurate in future cases, since he currently lacks sufficient
understanding of DNS.
Mr. Jones is
of the Comcast person did not help
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> I remember Len Conrad from way back when, and I believe he could
> "hand him his" Where would there be a DNS-centric list or forum where
> Len hangs out?
Maybe the big ISC BIND newsgroup or something? But it doesn't have to
be him, it could be someone on the DNSStuff forums, too.
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> Actually, you did catch something. The section that starts with
> "Authority". In his email he says "Answer ns0.xname.org" which I
> take to mean that he is getting that authorotative response from
> nso0.xname.org and not ns1.xname.org as you assume below.
It means "ns0.xname.org" is part of
> To answer Shaun's question, you'll see that we only have ns0 and
> ns2 for xname.org and ns1.xname.org is removed. So it shouldn't be
> a problem.
It isn't close to a problem.
It isn't helping matters to have your ostensible allies misread one
hostname as another!
> Actually, I tried nslookup
mail.bcwebhost.net. 43200 A 173.164.65.200
> mail.bcwebhost.net. 43200 MX 0
> mail.bcwebhost.net.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this setup and I wish you could
make this Spencer Jones idiot publish this claim in a DNS-centric
p
Update: NetworkMiner
(http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/networkminer/index.php?title=NetworkMiner)
uses the p0f OS fingerprint database and should work for you.
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> The link you provide is what I found before: it's a Windows port but it's
> uncompiled. Lacking a compiler, I was looking for something precompiled.
Ah, didn't notice that -- maybe search for a p0f 2.x binary because
that's the last time I used it. I have a 2.04 binary that I'll send
you off li
> So, two questions: first, is there a version of p0f that runs under Windows?
> I found the Unix version and I found a Windows-port version that is not
> compiled (and I haven't used a real compiler in at least ten years).
http://packetstormsecurity.org/files/download/109101/p0f-3.03b-win.zip
>
It's not really a complex setup unless you have (or had) a secondary
that is capable of reloading with bad records. It shouldn't be
possible to have a proper secondary that does this, as it should use
either standard *XFR methods or some proprietary sync mechanism at
startup to get the right record
> Thanks for the info. Is there any problem with using the same host name for
> both MX record and A record?
None at all. It is arguably redundant, as the host name will be tried
in the absence of an A record, but it is best to keep your zones
self-explanatory and not rely on fallback mechanisms.
> I've been going in circles for about a month with Comcast on this
> and they don't recall that they're the ones who told me three years
> ago that they sometimes intercept DNS calls. I was wondering if
> anyone has any ideas or suggestions on how to track down the errant
> DNS calls?
First, what
> Second problem:
> In our new DNS records, I have it set up something like this:
> two MX records:
> bcwebhost.net MX mail.bcwebhost.net
> mail.bcwebhost.net MX mail.bcwebhost.net
> one A record:
> mail.bcwebhost.net A (IP.200)
> Is there any reason I can't have the same name for both an MX and
> wouldnt the spammer/attacker need to have delegated authority over
> the source ip address space and control of DNS infrastructure to
> forge a PTR record?
Well, either delegated authority *or* a subscriber agreement with the
ISP that allows PTRs to be requested/modified. For example
> Why not use the HELO or REVDNS? REVDNS is going to be the safest
> because of the difficulty in forging it
Not always... if the domain has a hard-fail SPF record that isn't
*itself* dependent on forgeable records (only uses IPs and forward DNS
entries), then the MAILFROM can't success
Gary, I think I might have spaced on a similar question you asked a
while back.
I recommend Starwind Software's RAM disk -- the one that comes with
their iSCSI initiator (you don't actually need any iSCSI SAN in
place). We use it on 2003 + 2008.
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enterprise-class RAM disk anymore, as the feature is built into Starwind
Software's StarPort iSCSI initiator, which is free. We've used it for 2+ years
now.
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> This product is not ready to be on the market and certainly should not be
> something someone pays good money to purchase. It has promise, but its not
> ready yet.
Your complaints have to do principally with SmarterMail -- certainly
when the product was published and supported I don't recal
AutoWhite doesn't whitelist, it counterweights. Whether you counterweight
enough to be tantamount to whitelisting is up to you and your setup.
You should read the documentation for AW (if it is still available) before
deciding that a base was not covered.
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No reason to believe that putting IP addresses in a DNS server would
be substantively faster than an optimized local connection-time IP
database. The local db itself should be cached in memory, and thus
should never be slower when you add in the network overhead of DNS
(even on the sa
imal URIs like http://1.2.3.4 ? That doesn't make sense.
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; NAT recognition feature
-- I have probably saved days upon days of configuration/replication
hell because of that. But you can continue to use Windows DNS and
DNSCMD and be fine for this purpose.
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day are supported, you would be well advised to replicate
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*unsticks Ctrl key*
> How does one go about replicating a zone locally to begin with?
2 ways, depending on the BL. They could let you use standard DNS zone
transfer, or they could make you do an "out-of-band" HTTP/FTP download
of the zone.
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> Humans notice, because the traffic runs through a perimeter firewall
> that checks port 53 traffic against its Intrusion Protection
> profiles (amongst other things). Lately, during periods of heavy
> activity it's been ramping up the CPU and memory of the perimeter
> firewall. I'v
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n they bought and how they use Declude -- that
certainly was not well-presented to the community.
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ighted
system. If anybody should be, y'know, malicious out there
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IMO, no reason to use the shortcut IF ERRORLEVEL when the regular IF
%ERRORLEVEL% allows you to do the >= comparison and more.
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S for each domain name?
No, you decide the single most appropriate canonical hostname for the
box and point the IP to that hostname.
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While any server doing direct delivery to remote MXs must have a PTR, I got the
impression that Todd's box sends to the Declude box only, making the PTR
somewhat more optional (until, of course, your anti-spam gateway looks for a
PTR...).
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> Thanks for your suggestions!
Um, fix the PTR?
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Thanks, K. ipconfig from a mailserver that can surf the net is another "duh"
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d. The test "can you
run 'nslookup -q=mx gmail.com 1.2.3.4' is enough to tell people that
the 1.2.3.4 is or isn't valid.
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else who voiced their agreement. I expect the voices of the
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dustry has a
characteristic tic: they will not learn for themselves what should be
their core competencies.
> I will work on getting a few articles together next week. If you
> would like to contribute your extensive knowledge of DNS, shoot me
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ple trying to make use of such a
techies' product as Declude (sorry, it is, I've been using it since
1.x) who can't handle this.
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DNS) for recursive use only, chances are you should be outsourcing
your anti-spam measures as well. From experience, I'm sure Todd has
the skills to support his own DNS, so it seems defeatist to suggest he
do otherwise after this migration period.
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> I have som SPF issues
What issues?
Did you validate your TXT record at openspf?
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> Can you use eEye's Blink on a mail server?
O'course.
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> We too use Black Ice with great success (except Windows 2003R2 will not
> install and run). The replacement is IMP Proventia and very expensive at
> about $700 per server. We are also looking for a more cost-effective
> replacement.
Blink again -- cost is insanely reasonable.
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> To replace blackice functions as to load on a server and monitor and
> block what applications sends out on individual ports. I have an
> offending app or task that trying to send out on random ports , I am
> trying to find it and block it
Yep, a HIPS like BlackIce can't be replaced by a se
would with an IMail box making direct connections to remote
servers). The FQDN of the virtual server will be the HELO.
That's a nutshell version.
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ndows, or (b) using process-per-message SA and finding its
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ant to be forked "silently" from another
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as would the Lite versions of commercial tools. You didn't spell out
your technical requirements, so I wouldn't know
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f both are < 10 or so, you should be able to use the no-cost version
of a nice commercial app. Many of the vendors offer such "teasers."
So, how many monitors, and how many hosts?
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y that contains all of the RFC 822 message
headers in original form.
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range, not the reserved range. This is by definition and common sense.
RPC is not a Microsoft invention. It was pioneered by Xerox & Sun and
was implemented using the same basic model across many OSs.
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erfMon and SNMP.
FTR, I use OpManager for agentless SNMP-based monitoring, while
IPCheck is better for its proprietary -- and I find more reliable --
suite of both agent-driven and agentless monitors. YMMV.
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> Hopefully at some point Declude will post a list of good examples on
> their web site.
I hope people aren't ignoring the ridiculously profuse SpamAssassin
Rules Emporium, SA built-in rules, etc.
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conclusion you want from that.
> Also, can this be configured to be called only when an image
> attachment is detected?
I don't believe so, but redecoding the MIME within the external
process should add very minimal overhead.
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different authenticated-only MTA that doesn't do any SPF checks, or,
least desirable, (c) using a spoofed internal SPF TXT record for your
own domain that has a looser policy.
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der to distribute an zipped/renamed EXE/VBS than a relatively
harmless RWZ (rules export file).
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> Is there some equivalent of fuzzyOCR that can be used with Declude?
http://www.vamsoft.com/vsimagespam/
No vouchers for performance, etc.. I plan to put this in the lab soon.
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> architecture?
Nope.
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access that same service in
future from any LDAP client, such as Postfix, et al. MXs, and with
LDAP, caching and indexing are all built-in.
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tures, footprint, and scaleability vary
enormously, but here they would all fill the bill. Mercury/32's SMTP
module is one I can def'ly vouch for.
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able to traverse ACLs 100s of times faster than RegEdt32 (this was a
2000 machine).
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ise is to be blind to the capacity for abuse,
collusion, and fraud -- yes, alongside the capacity for imagination,
honesty and great mutual profit -- that is inherent in any single
entity managing billions of other people's money.
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In summary: you still don't know about e-mail archival for compliance
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> Have you been eating some slightly pungent, soggy cornflakes, Sandy? You
> seem to be spoiling...
Well, I did post that *here*, which was pretty cowardly!
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> I actually miss the twice annual entertaining discussions on the
> Imail forum between Scott and Len with Sandy added for spice.
Ah, olden tymes... me, I'm just waiting for the final showdown with
BRUCE BARNES.
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e involved? Didn't think so. And
have you pieced together why late trading was worth every penny spent
on its investigation and prosecution, and subsequent tighter
regulation? Here's one way of looking at it: Ever see the show "Early
Edition"? Now, imagine if the ev
D think of homegrown "compliance" solutions.
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on would be requested and/or required, but not under SOX
and NASD/SEC regs.
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> ... and it should be acceptable to the feds.
Which feds?
The regulatory agencies I know would scoff at such a solution. But the
OP didn't mention this being done for external regulatory reasons,
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simply charge
by message volume, and frankly I think anyone who really needs
archiving should understand the direct relationship between these
factors. You can contact me off-list about them if you want.
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her capacity, use SpamAssassin's SPAMD server and run the
SPAMC32 client (see my sig) from Declude.
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does not need to be licensed; the witness server
can use Express. Q.E.D.
Plus, this is all irrelevant to the OP.
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ack end), which
means he needs an application-agnostic solution: Double-Take,
eCluster, Microsoft clusters, etc.
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ly running the table with MS products and
has overflowing pockets, I'd be interested in looking into it.
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though if you get into it, please let me know. :)
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> I am looking for a low cost clustering sw/solution for our database server
> (Hyperfile C/S)
Seriously, what's "low"?
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use. By the way, what version of Safari are you using?
>
> General Availability is still being set for the 2006.2 release.
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ding of it agrees with mine, at least. It is not the
most straightforward post from Kevin.
If 2006.1 were officially alleged to have Safari support, I would
expect that it would be in the release notes, but nope:
http://www.ipswitch.com/support/imail/guide/2006/2006_1/IMail_RelNotes.htm
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supporting Safari, you are supporting both. It's like not supporting
5.x browsers on PC.
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else?) that (a) the
patched 2006.1 supports Safari and (b) 8.22's SMTPD is subject to the
new vulnerability, but I don't believe either of these are true.
--Sandy
Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Inte
to corresponding aliases on an upstream
(IMail) MX.
--Sandy
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Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
http://www.imprimia.com/products/so
the IP-PTR-HELO-A roundtrip.
--Sandy
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Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC
the purposes of
that test.
--Sandy
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Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/
above. I am not aware of ways to fix this problem within the current
version of IMail; I know it can't be fixed within older versions. The
solution, cumbersome though it may be, is to gateway your mail through
another MTA that presents a single HELO/IP/PTR/A set to the outside.
--Sandy
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