On a related note, Maven 5.0+ is using ANSI colors in a very nice way
but this won't work in Netbeans.
I suggest a committer contact the author of JANSI through
https://github.com/fusesource/jansi/issues/87 to debug this further.
Kind regards,
Gili
On 2018-05-25 6:49 AM, Peter Cheung wrote:
Hmm. Developers who want to do real coding should use real hardware.
Seriously though, there is some minimum screen real-estate we should
design for. iPads and 13" monitors are a non-target in my opinion.
Portability comes at a cost of productivity. People using such devices
should expect as
I often end up with multiple
editor windows of the same diff, which is annoying. Maybe a separate
dialog makes
sense?
Could this be a preference thing? I.e. allow this as an editor component
or as a separate dialog? or is that a lot of effort?
John
On 3 May 2018 at 03:14, cowwoc wrote:
Mult
Multiple diffs, probably not. But I don't like IDEA-style separate
dialog. I like being able to treat the diff as just another editor tab
so I can casually move back and forth between it and the code.
Gili
On 2018-05-02 9:25 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
Now that you mention it, there is something
Hi Jesse,
How about routing all queries related to Maven central through the REST
API and all other requests through the indexer? This would substantially
reduce the amount of processing taking place on the indexer without
interfering with the offline use-case.
We'd still need to optimize th
Nevermind. This seems to be a bit of non-news that's over a month old:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/09/java_release_train_qcon/
Gili
On 2018-04-26 2:15 PM, cowwoc wrote:
Gentlemen,
Most of you will probably be impacted by the following bit of news:
http://jdk.java.net/11/
O
Gentlemen,
Most of you will probably be impacted by the following bit of news:
http://jdk.java.net/11/
Oracle will no longer offer a stand-alone JRE for desktops. Starting
with JDK 11 Oracle will only produce a JDK and a Server JRE.
I assume this goes hand-in-hand with earlier news that Jav
Buhahaha.
I disagree (I believe that "smart" tabs is far superior to space-based
indentation), but I don't care enough to debate it on this mailing list.
We all know this point has been beaten to death for decades now.
On a side-note, in my experience checkstyle is a net loss on most
project
The way I've seen JIRA used in the past is:
Setting a "Fix Version" of 9.0 on an unresolved issue implies a desire
to fix it in that release. When that issue is subsequently marked as
resolved, the Fix Version indicates what version it was fixed in.
Gili
On 2018-04-22 12:53 AM, Laszlo Kishal
project...
Christian
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 1:36 PM, cowwoc
wrote:
I did. Multiple times.
One of the issues I brought up was the copy/paste bug I linked to
below.
When I brought it up in the mailing list in the past I got no replies.
That issue (and its linked counterparts) are very an
one of those will
volunteer to tix it.
Gj
On Friday, April 20, 2018, cowwoc wrote:
This is precisely the kind of fixes I'm talking about. I understand that
IntelliJ has many features that Netbeans does not, but I'm primarily
focused on improving the *core* development functionalit
This is precisely the kind of fixes I'm talking about. I understand that
IntelliJ has many features that Netbeans does not, but I'm primarily
focused on improving the *core* development functionality (this is
because it impacts all other project types). We've got many of the
pieces in place, bu
Hi,
I just spent the past 2 weeks using IntelliJ IDEA exclusively (having
used it sporatically before). I'm going to share some brief thoughts in
the hopes that it helps.
As far as I can tell, IntelliJ's killer feature is their debugger (more
broadly, their UI). Our killer feature is our pro
On 2018-04-03 4:06 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 03.04.2018, 20:21 +0200 schrieb Antonio:
Well, I thought NetBeans did already this this with some exceptions,
sending them to some server that was responsible for classifying them
automatically. Some other IDEs do the same as w
I'm against this idea, simply because you lose accountability and
two-way communication. We don't want people dumping stacktraces (or
less) without explanation and disappearing. I've seen plenty of "bug
reports" online where users write "I did X and it didn't work" without
explaining what "didn
I remember Netbeans used to produce file dumps for parsing errors and
ask users to attach them to bug reports... What happened to that?
Having run into many such bugs in the past I usually can't share the
full project because of its commercial nature, or I can't remember what
I did to reproduc
.
In fact this has been a busy month:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pulse/monthly
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website-cleanup/pulse/monthly
f
Cheers,
Antonio
On 27/03/18 19:18, Matthias Bläsing wrote:
Hey,
Am Dienstag, den 27.03.2018, 13:14 -0400 schrie
The number of resolved issues over the past 300 days is 0 :)
In general, the pace of non-infrastructure bugs getting fixed is still
very very slow (maybe 1 a week).
Gili
On 2018-03-27 8:24 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
BTW, the simple dashboard itself is here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secu
pull version has
maven 3.3.9 bundled.
I am testing with maven 3.5.2 configured within nb9 current git pull/build.
-Gary
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:14 PM, cowwoc wrote:
I assume you are referring to https://issues.apache.org/jira
/browse/NETBEANS-457
The stacktrace does not seem to be specific to
I assume you are referring to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-457
The stacktrace does not seem to be specific to JGit so this is a general
bug.
Gili
On 2018-03-24 11:06 PM, Gary Bello wrote:
To clarify ...
I am not trying to have a build of netbeans make use of latest JGIt.
Sounds like an intermittent connectivity issue. Try again...?
Gili
On 2018-03-24 12:00 AM, Peter Cheung wrote:
Hi All
I can build the netbeans source few days ago, i just “git pull”, now when i
type “ant”, i got these, please help?
download-selected-extbins:
[echo] Downloading exter
Anyone can create an account.
Gili
On 2018-03-23 4:14 AM, Peter Steele wrote:
I don't have a login to the JIRA project, can any body request one? Or do
you need to be a committee?
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, 07:57 cowwoc, wrote:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/ is
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/ is your friend.
Gili
On 2018-03-23 3:55 AM, Peter Steele wrote:
Hi
I am not part of NETCAT but I have started using netbeans 9 incubator beta
as my primary idea (the gradle plugin is no longer updated for 8.2 and it's
much more stable in
Agreed. But what's the downside? Obviously the user needs an always-on
internet connection, but seeing as Maven Central doesn't really make
sense without an internet connection I don't think we have a choice here.
Is there any other limitation (versus the current implementation)?
Have any othe
d and and. But it is working as expected.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Victor Williams Stafusa da Silva
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. März 2018 22:40
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Netbeans cache and configurations
@cowwoc
I was debugging and hacking lombok, and so making Netbeans crazy. I
es for data. It probably makes sense to
ask users whether they want global vs user-specific installs and then
keep the data in each respective location (instead of crossing the wires).
Gili
On 2018-03-20 5:39 PM, Victor Williams Stafusa da Silva wrote:
@cowwoc
I was debugging and hacking lombok
Having separate caches per user is kind of a requirement from an account
management/security perspective. You simply cannot share these
directories on public systems.
Fragmentation and such are less and less of an issue with modern
file-systems and definitely with SSDs.
Cache corruption, on
Hi Toni,
I was referring exclusively to Swing's ability to resize components in
response to changes in the container size. What makes it "even better"
is the ability to specify the desired behavior more directly. Contrast
this with HTML where you need to use voodoo magic to center text and
im
That would be great. How/where do we petition for it? :)
Gili
On 2018-03-15 6:34 PM, Ryan Cuprak wrote:
My two cents, I think we should start a petition for JavaFX. It probably is a
resourcing issue at Oracle with competing groups/managers. The function of user
groups/community is to provide
top apps -- give me Swing/FX. Christian does web apps -- give him
a browser. NB can handle them both and handle them nicelyer, well, at
least as nicely as HTML/browsers can be made to work.
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:58 PM, cowwoc wrote:
Chuck, I appreciate free software as much as the nex
Chuck, I appreciate free software as much as the next guy. But I still
blame Sun and Oracle for killing AWT/Swing.
If they wanted more community contributions they could have opened up
the bug reporting system, faciliated pull requests, and shown that they
are acting in good faith. They chose
n for Backend devs, who wants work in the frontend. I don’t say you
have to and I don’t say it is the wholy grail, but it is a good alternative and
not that bad.
Cheers
Chris
Von: cowwoc
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2018 18:35
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW:
I agree. If the web was such a great platform for desktop apps, you
would have seen many other projects/companies porting complex desktop
applications to it. They are not.
Web technologies are great for basic interfaces. They are utter garbage
for Filty Rich Clients.
Don't repeat the mistake
Agreed.
People keep on saying that Oracle will support AWT/Swing for another 8
years... Have you noticed what the last 8 years have been like? If this
is the kind of "support" we can expect then they might as well spin it
out the JDK like JavaFX.
The end result of this announcement is fragme
Maybe... but it's not hard to imagine a negative spin to this story.
Any way you look at it, recent events will increase the fragmentation of
the Java platform.
Oracle just gave away Java EE and Java SE desktop. All they have left is
Java SE server-side and, to a great degree they don't get p
I might be in the minority, but I actually prefer the new look. It makes
Netbeans a lot easier to use in high DPI environments (yes, on Windows).
Netbeans with JDK 8 looks super tiny.
In my opinion, the correct fix would be for applications to provide
higher resolution icons :) It's a win-win
On page 7 they claim that AWS/Swing support will not be touched (at
least until Java 11). It seems only JavaFX is directly affected.
Gili
On 2018-03-09 4:44 PM, Wade Chandler wrote:
All
Sorry if a thread I have missed on this exists here. A friend of mine sent
me this link
http://www.oracle.
I gave up using Lombok with JDK 9 months ago. Yes, it is far more
unstable under Netbeans than with other IDEs but it is generally a mess
under JDK9 regardless of which IDE you use.
Gili
On 2018-03-09 4:09 PM, Victor Williams Stafusa da Silva wrote:
Hi, I download latest Netbeans 9.0 beta las
On 2018-03-06 1:22 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
Historically maybe, but that would appear to not be an issue, because as I
said, it now conflicts with Profile, but that doesn't cause problems?
True.
This no longer appears to be a valid issue (if it ever was) - there are
lots of context-sensitive m
The trigger used to be ALT+A. It was changed to ALT+P because of
conflict with the Refactor pulldown menu. See
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=222400 for the historical
discussion.
Gili
On 2018-03-06 6:46 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 19:44 cowwoc wrote
49 PM, Tim Boudreau wrote:
I'd say file an RFE, but best to get as specific as possible about what
mechanism needs to be changed and how. I.e. Exactly the desired behavior,
what blocks it, and where the change would need to be.
-Tim
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:00 AM cowwoc wrote:
Is it okay
s are mapped to different keys for consistency with other Mac OS
apps (there's a syntax for defining keybindings in OS-neutral ways, for
declarative bindings).
HTH,
Tim
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, cowwoc wrote:
Hi,
Netbeans has an extremely long (and getting longer) list of k
Hi,
Netbeans has an extremely long (and getting longer) list of keyboard
shortcuts. Part of the problem is that (for the most part) keyboard
shortcuts are not context-sensitive nor are they able to be
context-sensitive. I'll give you a simple example I raised a few years back:
When the edito
Out of curiosity, why are the screenshots so small once you click on
them? I feel old saying this, but I find some of them hard to read :)
According to https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp the
most common screen resolution is 1366x768. Shouldn't we send something
at least th
te
driven release trains at all cost.
-Jirka
Dne 23.2.2018 v 17:03 cowwoc napsal(a):
Same here. Stability first. Once we've got that down, then I'd favor a
release schedule of 3-6 months.
Gili
On 2018-02-23 5:52 AM, Валера Солдатов wrote:
My 2 cents. I wish to use stable and quic
Way ahead of you: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-245
Gili
On 2018-02-23 1:19 PM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
Gili, it's time to create your first enhancement in JIRA I guess. ;)
-Jirka
Dne 23.2.2018 v 17:03 cowwoc napsal(a):
While we're on the topic, it would be nice
On 2018-02-23 11:03 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
https://netbeans.vieiro.net, as stated by Antonio at the start of this
thread.
Gj
On Friday, February 23, 2018, cowwoc wrote:
Is it possible to preview a live version of this website?
Gili
On 2018-02-23 10:06 AM, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
I
While we're on the topic, it would be nice if the IDE supported the
latest version of Maven. Right now we're stuck using version 3.3.9.
Newer versions prevent the use of the profiler.
Gili
On 2018-02-23 2:51 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:06 PM, Sven Reimers
wrote:
+1..
Same here. Stability first. Once we've got that down, then I'd favor a
release schedule of 3-6 months.
Gili
On 2018-02-23 5:52 AM, Валера Солдатов wrote:
My 2 cents. I wish to use stable and quick IDE. I don't want to update
my working tool too often.
23.02.2018 13:01, Christian Lenz пишет:
Is it possible to preview a live version of this website?
Gili
On 2018-02-23 10:06 AM, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
If nobody argues against the branch I think we could merge it into
master in, say, 72 hours or so.
After that all merges are indeed welcome. A NetBeans features page is
indeed missing.
Hi Aaron,
See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-164 and
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-241
Thanks,
Gili
On 2018-02-22 10:49 AM, Aaron wrote:
I got the attached error when attempting to submit a task through
Netbeans. It looks like there may be some problem/bug
Hi,
Has anyone tried installing nightly builds under a fresh userdir
recently? I nuked my userdir and installed build 219. I get prompted to
install nb-javac which I do. I get prompted to restart to apply the
plugin, which I do. But when Netbeans reloads I am still being prompted
to install n
It's much worse than that. I am not able to install *any* plugins in the
latest build. I filed this bug report:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-414
Gili
On 2018-02-21 1:29 PM, cowwoc wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone tried installing nightly builds under a fresh userdir
recent
I am seeing the same thing as Rik but here is the interesting bit...
http://www.netbeans.org/ returns "The connection was connection"
intermittently. If I hit the page 10 times in a row, sometimes it'll
work one out of 10 times and sometimes it'll work nine out of 10 times.
It keeps on alternat
t
builds a separate jar with the package.)
Jan
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:25 AM, cowwoc wrote:
Hi Jan,
I will probably skip the unit test in this case. Out of curiosity, how can
you tell that the build is stripping the "server" package from the module
jar and placing it in another jar?
And for the record, "ant clean" resolved the NPE errors I was getting in
org.netbeans.lib.profiler.ui.cpu.LiveCPUViewUpdater() and
org.netbeans.modules.profiler.v2.impl.FeaturesView.getSelectedFeature().
Thank you,
Gili
On 2018-02-18 7:01 AM, cowwoc wrote:
I ended up producing this
I ended up producing this PR:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/429
Please review it and let me know what you think.
Thank you,
Gili
On 2018-02-18 5:25 AM, cowwoc wrote:
Hi Jan,
I will probably skip the unit test in this case. Out of curiosity, how
can you tell that the
t.cp.extra=${cluster}/${jfluid.server.jar}
to nbproject/project.properties, but I don't know if that's desirable.
For the NPEs, I don't know what's the problem. I'd probably try a clean
build (unless you had one), but don't personally have much other ideas,
unfortunately.
Jan
O
It's back up now (albeit with a slow response time). Maybe it was a DNS
issue?
Gili
On 2018-02-17 10:59 PM, Delfi Ramirez wrote:
Hi all
works pretty well for me.
On 17/02/2018 21:16, Steven Yi wrote:
Hi All,
It looks to me thatwww.netbeans.org is currently not working, but
netbeans.org d
Same here. I am getting "The connection has been reset" trying to
connect to www.netbeans.org.
Gili
On 2018-02-17 8:41 PM, Charles Bedon wrote:
Hello,
I don't know if someone messed with the configuration in the meantime, but
both www and netbeans.org are resolving correctly for me
Kind rega
ran nbbuild/netbeans/bin/netbeans64.exe
(I'm on Windows).
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Gili
On 2018-02-17 6:10 AM, cowwoc wrote:
To clarify, I changed
org.netbeans.lib.profiler.server.ProfilerRuntimeCPU.getParSize() from
private to package-private. So this should work...
Gili
On 2018-02-17 6:0
To clarify, I changed
org.netbeans.lib.profiler.server.ProfilerRuntimeCPU.getParSize() from
private to package-private. So this should work...
Gili
On 2018-02-17 6:07 AM, cowwoc wrote:
Hi,
I am attempting to add a unit test for a bug I am working on in the
profiler module. I am getting the
Hi,
I am attempting to add a unit test for a bug I am working on in the
profiler module. I am getting the following error:
projectized-common.do-unit-test-build:
Compiling 3 source files to
C:\Users\Gili\Documents\3rdparty\incubator-netbeans-cowwoc\lib.profiler\build\test\unit\classes
C
I hope you are right. At the same time I want to caution the group to
not let enthusiasm and evangelism get in the way of success. If activity
does not pick up then I agree with Bertrand that it would better to
deliver a solid core than it is to spread ourselves too thin.
The reality is that i
I've also seen JIRA issues remaining open after fixes have been merged
into master. If the issue tracker is to be useful we need to establish
clear guidelines for when issues are considered resolved and who is
responsible for resolving/closing the issue.
Gili
On 2018-02-15 10:29 AM, Emilian B
Gj
On Thursday, February 15, 2018, cowwoc wrote:
Hi,
I don't mean to offend anyone (not trying to point any fingers, really)
but I want to raise an issue for discussion.
When Netbeans was moved to Apache I saw a lot of activity in the mailing
list. Everyone was excited and that was great bu
Hi,
I don't mean to offend anyone (not trying to point any fingers, really)
but I want to raise an issue for discussion.
When Netbeans was moved to Apache I saw a lot of activity in the mailing
list. Everyone was excited and that was great but now I am seeing an
extremely low rate of partici
Fortunately this is a non-issue, given the frequency of github commits :)
Gili
On 2018-02-08 5:44 PM, John McDonnell wrote:
Could I suggest a tweak to the job config for the
job incubator-netbeans-release?
It seems that it's triggered to build on every commit? I assume there's
other jobs ch
n the classes in the stack trace.
Is that replicated in Apache-land already?
-Tim
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:22 PM, Peter Cheung wrote:
Thanks Gj
From Peter
Geertjan Wielenga 於 2018年2月7日 上午2:50
寫道:
Yes, that would be ideal, will investigate that.
Gj
On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, c
Geertjan,
Aren't you able to add a notice on
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi that points users in the
right direction?
Thanks,
Gili
On 2018-02-06 12:10 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
NetBeans is an Apache project now. That means Apache JIRA.
Gj
On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, Pete
I'd go one step further (if possible). Can you detect whether a user is
attempting to build Netbeans using OpenSUSE Ant? If so, I would file a
bug against OpenSUSE and point users to this bug report if try attempt
to build Netbeans using this wrong version of Ant. Make sure to provide
a workaro
Could you redirect only the Java SE builds to Jenkins?
Gili
On 2018-02-02 4:59 PM, Junichi Yamamoto wrote:
So it seems, that the old bit URL is pointing to the hg repo, I guess? Can we
take them down or Redirect to the Jenkins build? It is confusing for some
People.
Please note that the dona
On 2018-01-16 4:09 PM, Antonio wrote:
On 16/01/18 20:42, cowwoc wrote:
+1
Remember why Netbeans went to Apache in the first place: to increase
the number of open-source contributors. If possible, please try
erring on the side of least friction. >
With respect to Daniel's
+1
Remember why Netbeans went to Apache in the first place: to increase the
number of open-source contributors. If possible, please try erring on
the side of least friction.
With respect to Daniel's specific contribution, it is my understanding
that it is in the public domain. As such, I don
n Wielenga
wrote:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/extbrowser
Gj
On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:38 PM, cowwoc wrote:
Hi,
Are we missing a "browser" component in JIRA? If not, which component should
browser-related issues get filed against? See
https://issues.ap
Hi,
Are we missing a "browser" component in JIRA? If not, which component
should browser-related issues get filed against? See
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-282
Thank you,
Gili
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Regarding the "Keep explicity typing" section of
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408,
isn't this strictly a code-smell?
Meaning, what prevents one from moving the variable declaration closer
to the initialization? Instead of:
|ArrayList fieldGroup =||nul
reporter%20in%20(cowwoc)%20ORDER%20BY%20createdDate%20DESC
and
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=-2&jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20text%20~%20%22cowwoc%22%20ORDER%20BY%20createdDate%20DESC
Then there are:
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=268194
https://netb
Hi Emilian,
Any update on this?
Thanks,
Gili
On 2016-11-11 01:33 (-0500), Emilian Bold wrote:
> Thank you for following through with this after we talked on IRC.>
>
> I will check later the size reduction for the releases/ repo.>
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