Perhaps a somewhat unusual way to make contact but let me explain.
I have been using Squeezeboxes throughout the house since 2006 and since
2009 the house has been automated bit by bit using HomeSeer, a home
automation program.
Recently I took up the challenge to also include the Squeezeboxes in
Please share some information how you mount the share, what pCP version
you're using etc.
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Last time I updated I ended up having to purchase a raspberry pi. Got
that up and running with LMS and picoreplayer.
Everything was going smoothly, until I decided to upgrade my Synology
NAS (DS216, I believe)again.
After upgrade I also could not use my Plex server. Managde to get that
conn
Found out from the forum, after translating the German, that the
Max2Play team - after many years - had finally fixed there own restore
function for LMS. Fixed since October; in the beta version available
through Max2Play, not on the download page, for anyone else that comes
across this.
Thanks
Ok now I understand that you're using Chromecast devices as virtual
squeezeboxes.
What's confusing me is why you want to change anything. What's wrong
with your current Beresford DAC?
Regarding moving the LMS server, I would strongly recommend not running
it on a Windows machine that's also bein
chicks wrote:
> If they didn't patent it, though (and I can't find anything assigned to
> Logitech that indicates they did), it's a moot point.
>
> If they DID patent it, why haven't they sued SONOS, Google, etc?
There is always the possibility that Logitech came to a confidential
agreement wi
po...@lns.com wrote:
> If there is Prior Art that shows that someone came up with the idea
> before Sonos registered for the patent, the patent would not be
> considered novel and therefore not valid.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art
>
> Keep in mind, folks are awarded patents all
Labarum wrote:
> There are (or were) DACs for small studio use that had an independent
> Headphone circuit for monitoring purposes. I'll have a look sometime. No
> rush, I am content with what I presently have. My Sennheiser HD25
> headphones are crystal clear.
>
> I would however like to turn t
If there is Prior Art that shows that someone came up with the idea
before Sonos registered for the patent, the patent would not be
considered novel and therefore not valid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art
Keep in mind, folks are awarded patents all the time where there is
prior art.
There are (or were) DACs for small studio use that had an independent
Headphone circuit for monitoring purposes. I'll have a look sometime. No
rush, I am content with what I presently have. My Sennheiser HD25
headphones are crystal clear.
I would however like to turn the old PC off - I could run
Labarum wrote:
> Agreed. The latest Beresford DACs have lost the functionality I value.
> The older ones have fixed and variable line outs, so the variable output
> drives the headphones and the fixed goes to the Quad 77 Integrated Amp
> with its own volume control.
>
> The required functionalit
d6jg wrote:
> Your big issue isnt really the player device its the functionality of
> your DAC which may be difficult to replace.
Agreed. The latest Beresford DACs have lost the functionality I value.
The older ones have fixed and variable line outs, so the variable output
drives the headphone
Labarum wrote:
> Thankyou d6jg. You accurately describe my system as I described it in my
> OP and subsequent posts.
>
> I have three Chromecast Dongles on the network. Castbridge automatically
> found and registered all of them. They become virtual Squeezeboxes
> thanks to the brilliance of the
chicks wrote:
> If they didn't patent it, though (and I can't find anything assigned to
> Logitech that indicates they did), it's a moot point.
>
> If they DID patent it, why haven't they sued SONOS, Google, etc?
Because every time you do that you have an enormous risk of backfire up
to a poin
mherger wrote:
> > Wow, I've battered my setup with testing for over 10 hours now, trying
> > to reproduce the issue and I think I've made some sort of progress,
> I've
> > gone from rough memory, trying to replicate what I'd done when the
> > volume dropped to 49% to actively abusing the setup
d6jg wrote:
> The OPs DAC has 2 x Optical in with headphone amp and RCA to his amp.
> The Chromecast is in use with the Castbridge plugin and uses one of the
> optical in. TV uses other.
> Not sure how the switching operates
Thankyou d6jg. You accurately describe my system as I described it in
ftlight wrote:
> I posted a link to the patent earlier in this thread:
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US8588949B2/en
>
> Slim Devices clearly had sold products with this facility earlier than
> even the June 2003 priority date claimed by Sonos in the 2013 patent
> above that is the basis of
ftlight wrote:
> Slim Devices clearly had sold products with this facility earlier than
> even the June 2003 priority date claimed by Sonos in the 2013 patent
> above that is the basis of their claims against Google.
US Patent office has had history of ignoring prior-art esp in relation
to soft
cliveb wrote:
> If you've got a decent DAC with multiple inputs, why not just feed the
> output of your Squeezebox player into one input and the TV into another?
> Most modern TVs have an optical output.
>
> I don't really understand why any Chromecast devices need to be involved
> - can you ex
If you've got a decent DAC with multiple inputs, why not just feed the
output of your Squeezebox player into one input and the TV into another?
Most modern TVs have an optical output.
I don't really understand why any Chromecast devices need to be involved
- can you explain their purpose?
Unt
Sad example of misuse of patents original intent. At the end, only
lawyers get richer but hey, thats fine, just dont look up
LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch,
1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chrome
Paul Webster wrote:
> Google appears to be going down the route of modifying their stuff to
> side-step the issue.
> They seem to have removed the ability to adjust the group volume (users
> now have to adjust each player individually) and also volume change
> using the mobile phone hardware vol
This article seems to cover alot of what "might" happen
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/google-loses-sonos-patent-case-starts-stripping-functionality-from-speakers/
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bpa wrote:
> Similarly I don't know the patent details but IIRC Sonos and Google
> speakers sorted out syncing by exchanges between the players whereas LMS
> did sync centrally from LMS and I think early Sonos had proprietary non
> TCP comms.
I posted a link to the patent earlier in this thread
d6jg wrote:
> The weakest component in your setup is the Chrome Audio. Its ok but the
> DAC chip isnt the best but I assume you are using its optical out.
I guessed so. I am using it with optical link to the Beresford DAC which
is ageing but OK.
> Is there Ethernet behind your TV? If so Id g
mherger wrote:
>
> I've added a change to 4.7.2 to simply ignore 49% volume for the time
> being. Hopefully this will give us some slack until I've figured out
> what's really going on...
Thanks, in place and running
This was produced by my usual method - playing through App and Connect,
on
Google appears to be going down the route of modifying their stuff to
side-step the issue.
They seem to have removed the ability to adjust the group volume (users
now have to adjust each player individually) and also volume change
using the mobile phone hardware volume control.
Maybe reducing th
The weakest component in your setup is the Chrome Audio. Its ok but the
DAC chip isnt the best but I assume you are using its optical out.
Is there Ethernet behind your TV? If so Id get a Pi4 and set it up as a
server and client. As regards the choice of DAC or Digi out I think it
depends upon
freelsjd wrote:
> As many of you have mentioned, I am also not familiar with the details
> of this case, just that I read articles on the web about it. It sounds
> like from the discussion here that it probably is more about HOW the
> synchronization was done as opposed to the mere fact that
>
beneix wrote:
> Thanks both. I have been meaning to try out some rerouting of certain
> traffic (either by source LAN IP, or by target URL) to go over a VPN
> tunnel to see if this can improve my radio experience :) . Since each
> tunnel can only go to one geograhy, ideally I would like to avoid
I read a comment some time ago that Google discontinued the Chromecast
Audio dongle because of hassle from Apple. I found that hard to believe
because surely their smart speakers use the same software routines.
And I was wondering earlier today about the features we inherited from
Slim Devices y
As many of you have mentioned, I am also not familiar with the details
of this case, just that I read articles on the web about it. It sounds
like from the discussion here that it probably is more about HOW the
synchronization was done as opposed to the mere fact that
synchronization took place.
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Here is my current lounge setup established after years of not using
LMS. The server is on a very old PC in the third bedroom which I use
only when I need a Windows machine - rarely, as I use a Chromebook
almost all the time. I am typing on it now.
Running a big old an
Man in a van wrote:
> Windows 10 loads the device on insertion, plays on my windows
> installation :)
>
> ronnie
So also on my Chromebook.
Brian
In UK: Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to
TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers -
Se
Labarum wrote:
> Apple DAC headphone dongle
>
>
Windows 10 loads the device on insertion, plays on my windows
installation :)
ronnie
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Brian
In UK: Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to
TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Spea
Labarum wrote:
>
>
> But from what I read, no matter what the final solution, the purchase of
> a P4 may be a good idea.
>
> and
>
> It has just occurred to me that I have an Apple in-line DAC which is
> extremely well reviewed and costs £9
>
> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MU7E2ZM/A
mherger wrote:
> -d6jg wrote:
> -
Thanks both. I have been meaning to try out some rerouting of certain
traffic (either by source LAN IP, or by target URL) to go over a VPN
tunnel to see if this can improve my radio experience :) . Since each
tunnel can only go to one geograhy, ideally I would
I have been asked to raise a new thread for this discussion, so here
goes:
I presently have a Beresford DAC strapped to the back of the TV with its
two optical inputs driven by
1.A Chromecast Audio dongle receiving via Castbridge
2. A TV which has a Chromecast Video Dongle attached - this dong
As Michael says it is predominantly IP based but its not always
accurate as some ISPs have traded IP ranges across geographic boundaries
to meet demand. Not all firewall manufacturers - where the allow or
block takes place - have properly kept up with the range movements. Then
there are the priva
Paul Webster wrote:
> However, I have not read the Sonos patent or the details of their claim
> against Google.
> Note though ... it is unlikely to have been about the case that there is
> synchronisation but instead about 1 or 2 key features of how it was
> described in the patent and how they
It was in the Slimserver/LMS code since mid-2002 so would have been
worked on for some weeks or months before and designed before that.
Version 2.3 Release 05/19/02
Multiple players can now synchronize their audio outputs to within 1
millisecond of each other. This allows you to play the same mu
fphredd wrote:
> Running Max2Play based on Raspbian Buster. Pi 3B+
Were the preferences you are trying to add to this image based on the
previous, Stretch, image of M2P ?
ronnie
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I understand well how this works for non-Squeezebox streaming, for
example when streaming video such as Netflix. But, when it comes to
hardware- and software-players in the LMS sphere, I am not so clear on
what the factors are that determine which streams are available to you.
There is your actual
w3wilkes wrote:
> I would guess it was before 2005. The earliest post I can see in these
> forums is Apr, 2005. I would think that Slim devices had these
> capabilities right from the get go.Here is a post about synchronisation from
> 2003.
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?2272-syn
Many providers of radio streams have gradually introduced more and more
geographical restrictions over the last years. This either means that
certain streams are unavailable outside of their local country due to
rights restrictions, or that a lower quality feed is offered to other
countries.
I un
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