a while.
It doesn't happen a lot with MonkeySqueeze 3.0, but I had not this
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- MediaMonkey full library contains about 10 000 files, I try to avoid
having them all in the current playlist (only for LMS, no problem for
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with MediaMonkey, but the script prevent MediaMonkey from being
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to stop it, before having listened to several thousands tracks.
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Otherwise MonkeySqueeze is still the best way (or the only one ?) I am
aware of, to provide decent library management to squeezebox systems.
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about the fact that they have to CARE about the server
and its usability.
Sonos users usually don't have to care about Sonos server, some of them
probably don't even know there is a server involved.
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and discover how great it is to stop doing that :)
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anything to do with MonkeySqueeze ?
The part of the message you hilighted in blue in your first message
(following messages show a lot of different colors, making things quite
confused about what is quoted) was dealing with time drift, not
MonkeySqueeze.
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whatsoever.
I use TinySBS with a USB stick because MySB is not reliable in Europe.
The only way MySB is used is when I go to favourites, and get the list
of MySB favourites (I have some internet radio streams there).
If you want to reproduce the bug you can try that.
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It seems that I don't have anymore the abrupt transition between tracks
I sometimes had with 2.0
Vey good point.
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, and avoid any plugin,
applet, patch, etc ... whatsoever.
And moreover, I would suggest to anybody struggling with LMS to give a
try to this solution.
(if using Windows is not forbidden by their religion of course :) )
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People having commented the bug probably still have it, and could check
their logs.
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17164
As far as I am concerned, I'll have to be gone for several days before
I can.
When I am at home, I normally use the Touch several times per day.
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That is exactly the question asked by those who voted for this bug
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For me :
No clock drift connected to MySB or to LMS on my Windows computer.
Clock drift with TinySBS running on Touch hardware.
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a slow NAS or if you can make it work with TinySBS
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instructions
in the user guide.
That's right, thanks.
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not connect to TinySBS with 1.5, only to
LMS.
I reverted to MonkeySqueeze 2
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solutions including MonkeySqueeze, it was meant for troll ...
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, specifications to develop plugins (may
be better than LMS), and smartphone control.
I really thing there is a real hope with MediaMonkey as software, and
LMS as a kind of driver for squeezebox behaving as network sound
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keep LMS for specific tasks not yet covered by MediaMonkey.
Why not developping MediaMonkey plugins instead of LMS plugins when the
bridge is fine ?
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will.
The more people will try it, the more something could emerge.
Nothing prevent you to use LMS or MediaMonkey when you like, their are
not exclusive.
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time for useless things.
Experts should not accept it, and others simply cannot use it at all.
Playlist is an area where LMS is especially bad, and even biggest LMS
fans hardly deny it.
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Squeezeboxes are not Apple stuff.
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The more I read your posts, the more I think you should stick with LMS
and should not pay attention to alternative solutions :)
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if it push
the software in the right direction.
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When I read your posts, and some others, it seems that you would prefer
almost everybody unhappy and frustrated, than fully satisfied with a
solution you don't like.
What is the problem with people like you ?
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There is absolutely no problem there.
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authors work.
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Windows, and basta ...
Different people have different needs, and there are different
solutions, not a single one.
It is as simple as that.
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it, and following Erland's advice, I had to start LMS, and the
plugin was magically available ...
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, plugin was actually usable with TinySC.
So I guess it is not because you say something is impossible that it is
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discussions with people DENYING
FACTS, or explaining that absurd behavior is normal and acceptable.
Fortunately, and thanks to MonkeySqueeze, I hope that I won't have to
bother with LMS interface features any more, and so, that this kind of
discussion is over for me :)
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believed I would run into OS specific sound quality problem.
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softwares way more complicated than LMS for quite a lot of time
(slimdevices was not even existing ... :) )
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which is
behind LMS, this software is cold dead.
Customers don't care how good and helpful you are.
They demand a software good enough so they don't need you at all.
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unable to do.
Well I shouldn't complain too much about that.
When you are good at that nowadays, it is really easy to be very
successfull :)
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never have
to read the documentation ...
When I try a new software I always start to run it without reading the
doc.
If I find it difficult to understand without the doc, I know it is not
for non tech people.
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on Linux and care a lot about sync, etc ...,
well they still have LMS and seem happy with it.
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I hope I didnt derail the discussion too much.
Since you are the original poster, I guess we are (may be especially
me) the ones who derailed the discussion :)
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customers make me improve products.
Fanboys certainly not.
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I gave you the links to the OFFICIAL logitech squeezebox forums.
Guess what ? I knew them and I have already posted there :)
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found all opinions for the forum and product I talked about
above, I would have saved time and money ...
Now have a good day.
Where I live, I will rather have a good night :)
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http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/browse/item/monkeysqueeze/
I could find any help file or user guide.
I install the addon, and restarted, a small LMS icon appeared
(apparently nothing else), with tooltip Enable/Disable MonkeySqueeze
Each time I click on this icon, I get an error.
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toy watch you can imagine, it doesn't
loose a few seconds within a month ...
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There is really a problem with TinySC clock.
But apparently you are not using it, so your problem was just to fix
your server clock.
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Apparently everything is just great, congratulations.
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use.
Probably the biggest and best software improvement I have seen in the
last 4 years for my squeezebox ...
It is really more than worth a try.
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Another suggestion, don't know if it can be done.
I tried but it doesn't work.
When a Squeezebox Touch is running TinySC, could MonkeySqueeze connect
to TinySC with Squuzebox Touch IP Address for LMS address ?
In that case, LMS could be totally wiped.
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May be just starting LMS, without connecting to it, is enough to make
the option appear.
Now that it is in the home menu, I always have it with TinySC, but not
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Gingernut63;670431 Wrote:
@nicolas75, aubuti
This is not totally correct. If you have LMS on your PC then you don't
have to have a LMS music database, hence no scanning. An empty folder
is all that is required for the music folder address. MediaMonkey can
manage your music database
with a smartphone
application.
Didn't knew it was possible before I answered your question and checked
forums.
There are several ones, apparently some with WIFI.
If one of them really works fine, that would be great, and the small
nettop running MediaMonkey could be hidden.
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, and make frequent changes to
your library, MediaMonkey is really years ahead LMS (ease of use, speed,
reliability).
The first time I tried MediaMonkey was several years ago, and at that
time, it was already much more convenient than LMS is today.
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Ok, it seems MediaMonkey even have addons to behave as a server
controlled with a web interface.
The more I see it, the more MediaMonkey seems to be everything LMS
should be.
I really use it in a much too basic way ...
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another planet ...
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it on nother SB system I own in another
house ?
I do have to copy it on the local library even if I finally decide this
library is too big, and I don't want to keep the files ?
Let's be serious and grow up ... :)
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directory)
Then you can Browse Music Folder - USB_DRIVE , and away you go ...
Thanks, that's a useful trick.
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concerned (anybody not convinced should seriously try).
Make LMS behave more or less the same way for those functionalities.
This would solve more than 3/4 of squeezeboxes customers problems ...
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use it, and think that file
selection and library management are really great and reliable, but it
is probably the same for Winamp, Foobar, etc ...
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easy, things to be done so that the software is fine for most people,
and allow most of them to get rid of scanning problems.
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With the price it costs, which may exceed the devices price, does it ?
Otherwise they have to stick to very basic use (streaming internet
radios for example), which is most customers do.
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having a car must
have a garage and spend several hours a week digging in the engine.
This is just plain wrong (not because they would not be able to do it,
but because they DO NOT want to do it whatsoever ...)
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Funny (well sort of ...) how he blames google ...
He should try to use himself softwares develloped by the company he is
in charge of.
And wonder if he really cared about software management, like he should
have done.
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the software is
not complete and not tuned to what the consumers want at the living
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What he says is not so stupid, and the original link is not very
faithfull regarding what he actually said.
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side.
As far as I know, Google was not involved whatsoever in LMS
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with the software, and
can't get it right.
In this situation, normal people just drop the system.
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having tried to make a living selling Squeeboxes (not tech
fans always saying that most problems are customers fault) will
probably confirm.
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, that is good news.
He also speaks about people looking for higher audio quality.
We can hope they really focus on user friendly systems.
Does this mean improving squeezeboxes product line, or a totally
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with your market of hifi nerds ?
You know, developing software for nerds is not that hard.
They hardly care for user friendly behavior.
The more tricky it is, the more they love it.
Start this business and make money !
Don't wait for Logitech to enter this market before you do :)
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almost no customer in this market
would accept to use unreliable beta software.
They would have turned to revue competition.
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be
corrected and are mandatory for non techies normal use, it is useful
and he helps
When some fanboy claims it is fantastic, deny obvious problems, says
people who complain should go elsewhere, or say that the problem is the
user, it is not useful, and he actually kills the product ...
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for a few nerds (at least until point 1/ is achieved ...)
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is simply not possible to achieve ...
I guess it is much better for them to tell it is not good, or simply
not sell it at all.
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Browse Music Folder?
No this is not possible.
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of those plugins, is it possible to get rid of scan
and browse from SBS (pointing SBS to an empty folder for example) ?
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direction they perform music scan, and with obviously quite limited
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been a bit overpriced. But that was mostly a function of
being the product of a tiny company, or a tiny product of a giant one.
Strongly agree with everything (expect may be with overpriced, price
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I use alarm, but I always have also a a real alarm clock to be sure
to wake up.
Touch'alarm function is definitly not reliable.
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far too much time to make them realize they were wrong.
The original poster problem may be due to BBC plugin, but nothing
written in this thread definitly proves that this is actually the main
reason for the rebuffering problem.
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in Paris, France.
This really recently got worse and worse.
Is it related to mysqueezebox.com ?
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some remote IP address interfere with the
stream or the playing, or whatever else.
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having problem.
Especially if the problem doesn't come from the radio stream, but from
the squeezeboxes devices ...
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