@erland, @pippin, @mherger,
Any chance you can collaborate on adding Deezer HiFi functionality the
LMS Deezer app? In the current state Ickstream has support for HiFi but
some of the functionality available in LMS app is not available on
Ickstream, while the one major thing that is missing
Great and thanks for the response. Also with ickStream and Deezer, why
do none of thier preset radio stations play? Via mysqueezebox.com, they
play fine. They actually show up and you can browse them, but then when
selecting one, nothing plays. Thanks.
LMS 7.9.1 on QNAP 219P+
3 wired Touch
dhallag wrote:
> Yes ok but using Deezer via MySqueezebox.com, I don't have this limit.
> It pulls back what appears to be everything -- I've been comparing
> Deezer.com, versus Mysqueezebox Deezer vs. IckStream Deezer. Also, no
> idea how to fix this?
>
>
pippin wrote:
> There are limits to how many items streaming services let you retrieve
> per request
Yes ok but using Deezer via MySqueezebox.com, I don't have this limit.
It pulls back what appears to be everything -- I've been comparing
Deezer.com, versus Mysqueezebox Deezer vs. IckStream
There are limits to how many items streaming services let you retrieve
per request
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hey and one more issue I am having... so with Deezer under search, it
is only pulling a maximum of 20 results. anyone else seeing this as
well?
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3 wired Touch End Points
Jolida Tube DAC III
Marantz 2270 to Boston Acoustics Slimlines
Marantz 7010 to B CM10 S2
hey guys. any help with these errors would be greatly appreciated:
Plugins::IckStreamPlugin::PlayerService::__ANON__ (1495) Error when
sending playerStatusChanged for Main Floor
this error is on my log about every 5 minutes. although everything
seems to be working fine. any ideas?
thanks...
Hm, Ill have a look. We recently had issues with a hanging backend
server but that was a few days ago and should be fixed by now
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zordaz wrote:
> During the migration to the Spotty plugin, I took the opportunity to do
> some housekeeping on all the installed plugins on my LMS instance.
> I stumbled upon Ickstream, but as far as I can see the last activity
> around Ickstream was more than two years ago.
> Their official
During the migration to the Spotty plugin, I took the opportunity to do
some housekeeping on all the installed plugins on my LMS instance.
I stumbled upon Ickstream, but as far as I can see the last activity
around Ickstream was more than two years ago.
Their official website is still available,
however I've difficulty programming my central heating.
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Was wondering if my Squeezeboxes has future when I came across
IckStream, then Tidal. What a wonderful surprise! Sitting here listening
to Tidal via IckStream. The dog's bollix!! Many thanks guys. I'd love to
be able to help however I've difficulty programming my central heating.
Qnap would probably be the arm5 version
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i should install ickstream on 7.9 (qnap ts-269) which repositary should
i install?
Touchx3,Boomx2,1 radio, 1 classic!Squeezebox Server 7.7.2 (Qnap ts-119)
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It isn't entirely impossible to modify the players' firmware to make
them connect to a different service. But that was more a strategical
thought, anyway. In case Logitech want to discontinue mysb, they'd
probably be happy to give away the domain.
What about the option to integrate ickStream
mvordeme wrote:
> It isn't entirely impossible to modify the players' firmware to make
> them connect to a different service. But that was more a strategical
> thought, anyway. In case Logitech want to discontinue mysb, they'd
> probably be happy to give away the domain.
>
The problem is not
I am aware that this thread is rather old, but it is the best match I
could find. I apologize if things I am going to write have been
discussed before, but I have been reading a lot already, and I don't
feel like reading another 31 pages right now.
I like the idea of having an intermediate
The ickStream protocol and backend itself allows making of players and
controllers which only use the backend and no local server. Actually
it's pretty much designed for that and we have customers using it this
way.
This can potentially work with Touch and Radio, too, since you can
install
The ickStream open-beta release is now available on the Squeezebox:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102497-Pre-announcement-ickStream-open-beta-release-on-Squeezebox-!
Interested in the future of music streaming ? www.ickStream.com - A
world of music at your fingertips.
For me, this service would need to be less ambitious than the Logitech
one. When I started with the Squeezebox Touch, I used mysqueezebox.com
a fair bit as I used a music database on my PC and that wasn't always
switched on. Now, I'm using a Squeezeplug, the database is always on so
all I'm now
local.bin wrote:
Will ickStream be a chargeable service on top of any music service
charges?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream-Music-Platformp=795095#post795095
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many
Will ickStream be a chargeable service on top of any music service
charges?
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What news exactly? Did I miss something?
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Another question:
I assume you'll have a new Wimp Plugin, right? Would that allow AAC
Playback on the Premium subscription? Currently we only get 256k mp3 or
FLAC...
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CommanderROR wrote:
Another question:
I assume you'll have a new Wimp Plugin, right? Would that allow AAC
Playback on the Premium subscription? Currently we only get 256k mp3 or
FLAC...
Unfortunately the WiMP AAC streams isn't compatible with the LMS
streaming code os it currently works
erland wrote:
Unfortunately the WiMP AAC streams isn't compatible with the LMS
streaming code.
Why's that? Atom at the end of, rather than beginning of the stream?
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Ok. I do get AAC just fine for radio channels like Kwax...
So, where exactly is the problem with Wimp streams?
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Why's that? Atom at the end of, rather than beginning of the stream?
I think that's part of the problem but I really don't know the streaming
algorithm used by LMS/Squeezebox in detail to say for sure.
CommanderROR wrote:
Ok. I do get AAC just fine for radio channels like
Perfect news
made my day!!:p
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@remd
I'm trying to figure this out now...
Is your ickstream system a replacement for Mysqueezebox.com? So, is it a
kind of online server that we'd have to subscribe to if we want to use
the new plugins?
Or are the Plugins real LMS plugins that run locally on our LMS Server
devices (like the
CommanderROR wrote:
@remd
I'm trying to figure this out now...
Is your ickstream system a replacement for Mysqueezebox.com? So, is it a
kind of online server that we'd have to subscribe to if we want to use
the new plugins?
Or are the Plugins real LMS plugins that run locally on our
Mnyb wrote:
They are happy to handle help and APi keys to Sonos or Logitech or
whatnot but not John Doe the hobby developer .
John Doe the hobby developer is one thing, general public in an open
source module is even worse.
There is another thing, and it's the primary cause why you haven't
Ok...
So, does this come down to replacing the free Mysqueezebox.com with a
paid (or even subscription) ickstream?
I'm mostly after Streaming services like Deezer, Play Music and Wimp, I
can always add radio stations manually...
Hi,
I'm developers and i'm intersted to be a beta tester, how i i do ?
Thanks
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Ok...
So, does this come down to replacing the free Mysqueezebox.com with a
paid (or even subscription) ickstream?
I'm mostly after Streaming services like Deezer, Play Music and Wimp, I
can always add radio stations manually...
For now it will be free for Squeezebox
@pippin
I'm not adverse to paying for a service, it's just a matter of what I
pay for. If I use Deezer, then I pay for Deezer. If somebody creates a
plugin for the Squeezebox/LMS then I'd gladly pay for that as well. Same
goes for other services. I'm just not sure that creating a new platform
We're not targeting this primarily at a DIY crowd or Squeezebox users.
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I don't know that develop, i want test your product for give me a idea
:)
Else, i'm signup on your website for to be developer
Good day
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Tidal has released their Hi-Resolution Streaming service in the US and
the UK. It is available for ickStream beta users and soon for all
Squeezebox users:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102381-Tidal-Hi-Resolution-Streams-available-on-ickStream-soon-for-all-Squeezebox-users!
The
We have shared some more information about the type of hardware we have
been working with so far, besides the Squeezebox, in our latest
newsletter.
You can check it out on our blog at https://blog.ickstream.com if you
haven't subscribed to our newsletter.
Interested in the future of music
remd wrote:
We have shared some more information about the type of hardware we have
been working with so far, besides the Squeezebox, in our latest
newsletter.
You can check it out on our blog at https://blog.ickstream.com if you
haven't subscribed to our newsletter.
Being (still) deep
When the Community Squeeze project recently ended due to the legal
problems we got some questions from users regarding the scope of
ickStream.
Due to this we want to share a bit more information about the current
status in the ickStream project.
First of all, we are very sorry to see that the
We have shared some more information and screenshots of our
implementation of ickStream for the Squeezebox and the Logitech Media
Server (LMS) in a newsletter we sent out last Friday.
You can check it out on our blog at https://blog.ickstream.com if you
haven't subscribed to our newsletter.
remd wrote:
ICKSTREAM SERVICES AVAILABLE ON LMS
While developing the support for the older Squeezeboxes we have gone one
step beyond and made ickStream available as a LMS app, allowing any
Squeezebox to directly access ickStreams services and content.
The app is currently available to
We are glad to announce that both older and newer Squeezeboxes are now
supported on the ickStream platform.
OLD SQUEEZEBOX SUPPORT
The support for older Squeezeboxes has been developed through a Logitech
Media Server (LMS) plugin currently available to ickStream beta testers.
This means that
We have sent out a newsletter yesterday and have some good news
regarding the support of older Squeezeboxes.
You can check it out on our blog at http://blog.ickstream.com if you
haven't subscribed to our newsletter.
Be sure to fill in our survey if you haven't already done so and you are
remd wrote:
We have sent out a newsletter yesterday and have some good news
regarding the support of older Squeezeboxes.
You can check it out on our blog at http://blog.ickstream.com if you
haven't subscribed to our newsletter.
Be sure to fill in our survey if you haven't already done
garym wrote:
Excellent news regarding support of older SB devices.
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by Michael
Regarding alternative ways of selecting and playing music, the user
interface provided by MinimServer (via any UPnP controller) is by far
the best I have found for a multi-platform UPnP/DLNA solution, and it is
free. It's a very flexible and logical way to select items to play in
any number of
We have sent out a newsletter today giving some insight on the music
content available in ickStream and the progress we have made so far. We
also mentioned some of the updates we made to the iOS app to adapt to
iOS7.
You can head to our blog at http://blog.ickstream.com if you want to
check it
Hello there,
looking forward to seeing where this leads to !
Since I'm mostly listening to local music, I understand I won't be the
primary target, but that's not something frozen.
And, juste like others here, I'm concerned about what will happen when
my SB harware comes to fail.
So here are
We have sent out a survey to all newsletter subscribers in June and
another one to beta testers in July, you can see the highlights of these
surveys on our blog at http://blog.ickstream.com .
Thanks to all of you who took the time to participate !
Interested in the future of music streaming
Hello
Im really looking forward for full metadata api integration.
We are developers and integrators using systems like www.savantav.com
and www.crestron.com, would be nice if we can finally have great
streaming product with full metadata control.
Since Logitech quit the game I was trying to
erland wrote:
Thanks for explaining your ideal setup, I wanted to make sure I
understood the background for your reasoning it a bit better.
From a cost/energy perspective it definitely makes sense to limit the
amount of hardware used in the system. I think it also depends a bit on
the
mweb wrote:
I don't know how to do this and am open to any suggestions. I think
there should be an ipeng player for each zone. I can do the
hardware/firmware for the analog and speaker routing blocks. I guess
ideally, I'd build something that receives status and commands from the
music
Why do you need the Analog audio routing circuit and Speaker selector
circuit ?
Is it because you can't afford to have one set of amplifier+speakers per
streaming device or can't afford one streaming device per room or is
there some other reason ?
Typically, my feeling is that with
mweb wrote:
I've rarely used synching (like most I'd guess)
as an aside, I use synching a lot! At home, I have 2 or 3 units synched
several hours a day. At the weekend place, I have two players almost
always synched. And there are times at home (party) that I have all 7
zones playing the
Hi mweb,
I thing the best product I know today for a central wireing is the
Russound C5 where you have 8 different stereo zone with 2x20W each also
controlled by remote app via ethernet.
For a distributed approach I saw this:
http://openrb.com/streaming-player/(see at products)
complete
as an aside, I use synching a lot!
I can see how the ability to synch is useful for some. I think I've
never had much of a need because my wife is stuck in the 70's, the 4
kids like teen pop, and I'm more of a nick cave, tom waits kind of guy.
I'm hoping as the kids age, we'll be able to
mweb wrote:
I have one set of amplifier+speakers for each room and it is a waste of
space and money in my opinion.
...
Thanks for explaining your ideal setup, I wanted to make sure I
understood the background for your reasoning it a bit better.
From a cost/energy perspective it definitely
mweb wrote:
I'm not thinking of a pool, but independent inputs where the server just
allows the user to pick the source. I'd pick streaming device 1, the
kids would pick streaming device 2. A device associated with each
account so I can't see how any terms of service could be violated.
Do you expect the analogue routing block and the speaker routing block
to also be controlled by iPeng (or similar) or would that be something
controlled separately ?
I don't know how to do this and am open to any suggestions. I think
there should be an ipeng player for each zone. I can do
mweb wrote:
I just need to be able to listen to different music in two spots in my
home at the same time and be able to play Pandora or something similar
in those two spots at the same time from separate accounts.
From the poll thread I posted earlier:
From the poll thread I posted earlier:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98198-Usage-of-online-services-in-your-family
I got the feeling that most people didn't even want to consider having
multiple accounts for premium streaming services.
All I can guess is that many have figured
In your other post you wrote:
One limitation I still want to apply is that with one online streaming
account you will still only be able to stream a single song to one
device or to multiple devices synchronized, basically no possibility to
play different songs to different devices simultaneously
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Developer via our web site (http://www.ickstream.com).
We included a survey in the mailing to invite developers when its most
relevant for them.
To
Its been a looong time since I posted in these forums, but I just popped
in to say '+1' to this effort!
I'm very excited about this, not just because it could breath new life
in to the SB ecosystem, but simply for what it is - a group of
enthusiasts, passionate about something, willing to commit
PasTim wrote:
The reason for describing how my non-LMS system would work is that I
wonder whether ickStream will have the ability to plug the main hole in
this solution, i.e. provide a reliable UPnP Controller, or provide some
other solution to drive my pre-amp direct without using my LMS
erland wrote:
I'm not sure I understand which part(s) you want to get rid of in your
current system.
I don't want to get rid of anything, but I've an eye to the future when
my Touch may fail, or the LMS server might be incompatible with future
hardware/OS's, and so on. My collection is
As an LMS (Touch) user, I have been looking at alternatives. The main
listening is done in my lounge, remote from the music server, connected
via Ethernet.
The closest I got to a working alternative that can make use of custom
tags (for classical music) was:
- flacs still on my Vortexbox as
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relevant both for our testing and
erland wrote:
If all classical music fans would be able to agree on a tagging scheme
for classical music, we would at least have taken a first step towards
being able to convince the tagging software developers to add support
for it. If there was a standardized tagging scheme, it would be
PasTim wrote:
Sadly the chances of this happening are vanishingly small now. If the
standards (such as they are) had been done right in the first place
(which would not have been hard) it would be easy. They weren't. Like
many others I went my own way, with some ideas from you, and
erland wrote:
I think there are two big questions:
1. Is people who love classical music willing to adapt to a standardized
way of handling classical music metadata or will it be too much work to
change their existing collection.
2. Are people who love classical music willing to submit and
PasTim wrote:
To show willing, if you want me to define what I do and maybe send some
data to you as a sample, I'd be happy to make a small start (you'd have
to give me a hint about how to extract and send the metadata).
Thanks, I'll let you know if I feel I need it, I have some kind of
erland wrote:
We are thinking about posting a survey in the near future to everyone
that have registered as Beta tester on the ickStream web site
(http://www.ickstream.com), among other things it will have some check
boxes where users can select what they think they can help us test and
Actually, I think the benefits could go beyond classical.
* Many groups of rock pieces meant to be listened to together could well
be tagged as a work: E.g., the linked songs in almost any Grateful Dead
concert, Boston's Walk On Suite, etc.
* Including albums as entries in Playlists is the same
mps wrote:
Actually, I think the benefits could go beyond classical.
I have Jazz CDs that similarly need to be classed as containing one or
more 'Works'.
I have used Erlands basic plan from
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_browse_menu_for_classical_music,
with the addition of a
mps wrote:
Actually, I think the benefits could go beyond classical.
...
I don't think the functionality would be that hard to implement, but the
UI could be a challenge. Playlists would now be trees instead of lists,
so you'd need a good widget for navigating into the
Guys
This is v. interesting and exciting, good luck.
Just one thing, it'll never be too late to announce it was only a
working title! :-)
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mps wrote:
If one could really crack the classical nut, that would be a real
distinguisher
And so say all of us.
LMS 7.8 on VortexBox Midi, FLACs 16 or 24 bit. Touch on Ethernet (in
another room), digital out to a Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Old wireless
laptop running Linux Mint Debian
mps wrote:
Excited about the product. Your newsletter talks about powerful
heterogeneous playlists. One thing I would like to see is to put a work
on the playlist as if it were a track. E.g.,
1. Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man (A single track)
2. J.S. Bach - Goldberg Variations
PasTim wrote:
And so say all of us.
I don't know whether Classic Fans are a tiny or large Minority (yes i am
convinced we are outnumbered). To judge from search Support Features as
in deezer we are rather left alone.
Would be Great if use of ickstream could improve that Situation.
Toine
Excited about the product. Your newsletter talks about powerful
heterogeneous playlists. One thing I would like to see is to put a work
on the playlist as if it were a track. E.g.,
1. Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man (A single track)
2. J.S. Bach - Goldberg Variations (A work with 32
It's definitely on the roadmap but not yet there.
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Will IckStream support player synchronization?
Kind regards
Günther
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pippin wrote:
It's not so much the question of power of an App. The issue is: if you
want to run something in a web browser you need a web server.
With the Squeezeboxes, that's not a problem, they are always being
controlled through a server anyway.
But on ickStream there is no central
We might have a Linux controller, too.
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erland wrote:
Just to be sure, I assume a native remote control app for your favorite
operating system would be ok ?
Or do you want a web browser based remote control even if there is a
native client for your operating system ?
Personally I'd prefer a web bowser based controller on the
PasTim wrote:
Fair enough, but I won't be able to use this until there's a controller
I can run on a linux laptop. At an extreme pinch an android app on a
smartphone would be OK, but I'd much rather not - those of us whose eyes
are a bit older may find smartphone screens too small.
Just
erland wrote:
Which operating system/hardware are you using LMS on ?
Thanks for the offer, unfortunately the remote control application which
is used for testing only works on iOS devices at this stage, we will
keep you in mind when we have made one for Android. If you haven't done
it
From this forum, the newsletter and the survey I see quite a lot of
emphasis on the type of device used as a controller, and, if I have
understood correctly, mention that only i-devices are currently
supported.
If you haven't included this already can I suggest a controller that
works in any
It's not so much the question of power of an App. The issue is: if you
want to run something in a web browser you need a web server.
With the Squeezeboxes, that's not a problem, they are always being
controlled through a server anyway.
But on ickStream there is no central server that needs to be
Hello,
I dident' read all but i'm an user of deezer premium+, owner of an ipad
4 and squeezebox touch with latest version of LMS
I actually have problem with my deezer account so if you need someone
fort test i'm interested
adricube wrote:
Hello,
I dident' read all but i'm an user of deezer premium+, owner of an ipad
4 and squeezebox touch with latest version of LMS
I actually have problem with my deezer account so if you need someone
fort test i'm interested
The same holds for me. That is:
- I did not
avh wrote:
- experiencing momentarily problems with squeezebox/LMS and deezer
Which operating system/hardware are you using LMS on ?
avh wrote:
- Sorry, I do not have any I-Things,
- But I do have access to an array of android devices
Thanks for the offer, unfortunately the remote
I read the newsletter I received today; For me the Cloud component
description feels a bit cloudy, after I thought I understood what the
Content Services component was
Is this Cloud thing a provisioning component ?
4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) SqueezeLite Squeezebox Server 7.6.2
This all sounds very interesting.
I currently use a Transporter running LMS on my PC. One of the plug ins
I find very useful is TrackStat. I assume this will be included in your
new software project?
I understand a Transporter version of your software is further down your
list of priorities.
Well, the cloud component is actually quite simple: it primarily does
protocol conversion and account t management, comparable to the role
MySqueezebox.com has when you use LMS (it does NOT control any players).
One difference is that it also offers library services like playlist
management,
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