Re: [libreoffice-documentation] contribute to LibreOffice help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lera On 19/08/2015 17:09, Lera wrote: Hi Sophie, you can find explanation to download the extension here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Help and some information to use it here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent I have begun to see into the explanation https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent and have faced some difficulties. This explanation is not full. Right. Time is short for us to write a better documentation I was able to understand where xmlhelptemplate.ott file is located in fact. But I had no idea where I am supposed to find maintransform.xml and allfiles.tree files. If, as indicated, you get the extension from http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/helpauthoring/ Then all you need is to install the extension and all filters and templates will be at hand. You will get a new menu entry on the main menu bar. But as we aleady know, the extension has some glitches that requires an inspection in the xml. I know that these files are not required. But as far as I understand, it should make the work with help files easier. Could you explain this issue to me, please? Is there any possibility compile only help files without compiling the whole program in order to check how they would look like in the end ? If you have your build working with the Helpcontent, all you need is to issue the command make in the helpcontent2/ folder once finished, you just invoke soffice from instdir/program anf press F1. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Lera I know I am - -- Olivier Hallot Founding Member,The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 - Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-9-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1PcGAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxVsEIAJRDDW2HqC7gHkXI2DbaCAVC GODKrDYx8w/Oe3ae3HlXqsr917PLtXnBBW//+LH4gQUGWSzIjisdMqKZJmebuXt+ l2xEjOvvxrAXJ80nCr6TFNHEPXn4vBkNyGSNG+ILpFCYsRCW+NXy1DYvU6qZbkJW IAqc6UagcBH74rR6jd40ouIqfuixT/8QT2V5Zld5VXIrbGeHK/32XVeeYm+MnVBC GRLIk0HC2iNnDTwIpWCeofnS9OntcPdZjFMxfB9SShWP36hPgGKEbzY9MU5wSz7d HiNmk2XbesnM6uX/ijJez0gVm47V+pF8r7wg4x2sbxNNsCFUTjNZ0jl00Wa9bvQ= =fmSj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] some thoughts on the structure of the Help article
of > the > input arguments for the function. As well as in the above item, we can not > rely on working logic of a function or the respective competence of a user. > We > need to describe it in a way that after reading no doubt is left. > For example, I can point out trigonometric functions such as SIN, ASIN etc. > Although any technically educated person knows that it is accepted to use > radians for trigonometric functions, in Russian schools the degree measure is > used. > > 8. Necessary warnings > Most often, this item makes sense to use in order to show common mistakes. Of > course, we have a separate table with errors, but the frequent ones with > using > function need to be marked on the function page, because the Help is used > when > a user has problems. And here we can point to a specific location, where a > mistake occurs. > > 9. Data for an example > This item is very difficult for me. On the one hand, examples should be the > same > for similar functions, it allows the user to easily perceive the differences > between functions, on the other hand, it is complicated to translate, either > members of l10n command need to translate the data repeatedly, or they need > to > be guided in the structure of the Help. > For example, functions SUM, SUMIF, SUMIFS, COUNT, COUNTIF, COUNTIFS, AVERAGE, > AVERAGEIF, AVERAGEIFS can be represented by the same table of data. This > table > should be placed before examples in each article about functions, because the > user needs to be able to have it in front of his eyes. > > 10. Examples > Everyone knows that there should be some examples, but somehow many examples > are trivial in our Help. In my opinion, examples should form three categories: > - trivial – these examples allow understanding everything that is explained > not clearly enough; > - FAQ or frequent using – these examples allow answering on user's issues; > - revealing of the function potential – these examples allow a user to > improve > skills. > Each example needs to have a description of its work, and not just the > returned result. Excluding trivial examples, it might be not clear for a > beginner what is happening inside the function. > Each explanation should begin with a new line. Thus, an example and an > explanation should be placed on separate lines. It is assumed that the user > can copy the example in Calc, and it is not convenient when it is needed to > pluck out an example from a string. It is much easier to select the example > with a mouse, when it is located on a separate line. > > 11. See also > Any article should contain this item in order to give a chance for the user > to > get more information quickly, for example, error codes in Calc, list of > regular expressions, similar functions. > The Help has an item “Related articles”, that looks very organically in the > local Help. As I understand, it intends to provide links to additional > information. But I do not understand the name of the item, as it is more > suitable for personal blog than technical documentation. Maybe I overlooked > something. > > I would like once again to note that although we do not have to associate a > user with a baby, who does not understand anything, we can not be sure that a > user has extensive experience in using functions and Calc. And we need to > facilitate the user's work with the Help, not counting on user's independent > understanding. > > It is the representation of how I see a good Help article. But I also have > some questions about the internal structure. > > As I said, this letter appeared from the bug report #95968 and some > discussion > with Olivier Hallot. > I have to agree that the string " href=\"text/scalc/01/ful_func.xhp#func_define_complex\"/> whose cotangent is > to > be calculated." is a bad idea. Although I could not agree that it is hard t > translate into languages with case endings [7], I think it should be > changed, > because there is a mistake in Wiki online help [8]. However, this error does > not eliminate the issue of what to do with the inclusion of information from > other files. There are a large number of duplicate lexems, which greatly > increase the work of translators. Of course, Pootle gives tips, but not all > people have a good internet, some people prefer to download a file and to > translate it off-line and in this case tips in Pootle can not help. > If this reference confuses translators, can we expect that examples of > regular > expressions on the basis of a table from another file (e.g. a COUNFIFS > function > [8]) will be translated? If not, I can not bring the table with the data in a > separat
[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 12 on Creating web pages reviewed 5.1
Hi I have reviewed Chapter 12 and added some contents for creating web pages. It is uploaded in the Draft folder. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New files updated for GS 5.1 book
Hello Hazel Em 07/06/2016 03:06, Hazel Russman escreveu: > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:06:58 -0300 > Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I have reviewed chap's 16,15,14 and 13 of the Getting started 5.1 book >> and they are in the Draft folder of ODF authors. >> >> Note: the contents of these chapters have almost no changes from V5.0, >> given the scope of an introductory book on LO. >> >> Kind regards >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 >> http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br >> > Do you want me to proofread them? > > Hazel > Oh yes, please. Thank you in advance. regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of the Documentaiton hangout of May 25th, 2016
May 25th Documentation team call Presents: Sophie, Olivier, Liongold, Akmal Documentation Update: * Help content modernization Limited edition available for helpcontent in http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/edit * Help content update * Patches committed in code for tha changes in the menus * Books in ODF Authors * Chapter 6 - Impress: (Roger) * Chapter 7 - Draw: (Leo) * Chapter 8 - Base: On going (Olivier) Team feedback AI: Sophie will contact Milos for assistance with Leo * How to improve participation Admnistrative: * Next meeting: 1st June at 19:00 CET -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Help Contents Authors: Help Authoring in TDF wiki
Hello I have ported the book on Help Authoring for OpenOffice to the TDF wiki[1]. I did it because the only source for authoring LibreOffice help pages is a PDF file written in 2006 [2]. The book was converted to wiki and the contents is expected to be the same, but we want to improve our Help system with new features that we need for LibreOffice. These pages will handle the necessary documentation. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContentAuthoring [2] https://www.openoffice.org/documentation/online_help/helpauthoring/HelpAuthoring.html Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation hangout of June 15th
Hello Our documetnation hangout will be at this link: https://hangouts.google.com/call/qxuf2jb5yvfmfl47qlucntdpdqe Our pad for the minutes is http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of the June 15th documentation meeting
June 15th Documentation team call Present: Olivier, Marco Pinto Documentation Update: * Help content modernization + Ported Help Authoring in OpenOffice.org to wiki (Olivier, tagezi, Dennis) -> Document was a PDF, not editable -> Now we can edit and add/remove features in Help Content and have it documented * Help content update + Some updates by the community + call for GSoC student to provide contents of their work for Help. * Books in ODF Authors -> Appendix A, Appendix B, Chapter 14,13,12,11 updated -> Under proofreading by Hazel Russman -> Working on Chapter 10 (Math) (Olivier) Team feedback * How to improve participation Admnistrative: * Next meeting: 29 June at 19:00 CET -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] New files updated for GS 5.1 book
Hello I have reviewed chap's 16,15,14 and 13 of the Getting started 5.1 book and they are in the Draft folder of ODF authors. Note: the contents of these chapters have almost no changes from V5.0, given the scope of an introductory book on LO. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation hangout in 10 minutes
Hello Our docmentation hangout will be at the following address https://hangouts.google.com/call/bnns4rxr4bfulo7tv2vjnblp7ye and the pad for the minutes is in http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of the June 1st hangout for Documentation team
June 1st Documentation team call Present: Tagezi, Olivier Documentation Update: * Help content modernization + No news * Help content update + Patches committed in code for the changes in the menus + picked while translating * Books in ODF Authors * Chapter 6 - Impress: (Roger) * Chapter 7 - Draw: * Chapter 8 - Base: On going Team feedback + Why not have LibreOffice books in wiki format as well? Admnistrative: * Next meeting: 15 June at 19:00 CET Russian team: tagezi, Sergey, kompi + Sergey: Translation of the UI but not the Help + Tagezi: Translation of wiki and news + Kompi: Guides are also under translation (visually impaired) -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Chapters 9, 10 and 11 ready for revision.
Hello I have updated chapters 09, 10 and 11 of the 5.1 Getting Started guide. They are in the Draft folder. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting started 5.1 Chapter 9. Math
Thanks Hazel! Em 20/06/2016 11:53, Hazel Russman escreveu: > This has been proofread and uploaded to the feedback folder. Chapter 10 > downloaded. No more work today! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] HelpContent (localhelp) authoring documetation available in our wiki
Hi For those interested in authoring contents for the help pages, I have ported the only documentation available on XHP files to the wiki. The objective is to allow additions or contributions by the community to the XHP-specific documentation, when new features are proposed and implemented. The documentation also explains how the local help works in LibreOffice, when you press the help button in a dialog or when you press F1. The book can be acessed in the following URL: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContentAuthoring If you are already skilled in autoring help contents, you may help us to update its contents, mark obsolete exerpts, adjust wiki links and more. It is a an on-going process. Kind regards. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 8 (Base) of GS 5.1 uploaded
Hi I have reviewd chapter 8 of the 5.1 Getting started book. Added a section on copying a Calc sheet into a database table. regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [odfauthors-webmaster] colaborar
Hi Jean I made contact with him on the subject. Regards Olivier Em 29/02/2016 17:20, Jean Weber escreveu: > Another one for a Spanish speaker and/or the Spanish mailing list. > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: José Rojo Camacho <coloradocan...@gmail.com> > Date: 2016-03-01 4:49 GMT+10:00 > Subject: [odfauthors-webmaster] colaborar > To: webmas...@odfauthors.org > > > Hola, soy desde hace tiempo seguidor de su trabajo, de hecho poseo un > blog que dedico muchos de mis artículos a LibreOffice, desearía > trabajar en su proyecto de traducción, consulta y ayuda sobre su > paquete de ofimática. > A partir de este momento espero que se pongan en contacto ustedes conmigo. > > un saludo y gracias > > -- > Site Administrator > > > You are receiving this mail because José Rojo Camacho > coloradocan...@gmail.com > is sending feedback about the site you administer at > http://www.odfauthors.org. > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 2016 budget proposals
Hi Sophie, All Em 26/02/2016 09:51, Sophie escreveu: > Hi Kendy, > Le 26/02/2016 13:34, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : >> Hi, >> (snip) > > Thanks to Olivier for this great work, I tested it yesterday and it's > already a nice move. Just for my understanding, I thought it was to be > able to replace the current embedded browser LibreOffice is providing. > So that mean that the help files could be displayed either locally and > on a webservice? And the wiki will be abandoned in that case? I'm no wizzard of web technology so I had to start the long march with the first step which is the proof of concept. In this particular case the difference between a online and local help service is a change in the protocol (from html:// to file://, which I had not solved yet) and all the rest is the same. On the wikihelp, I don't think it has to be abandonned. "Au contraire", it has matured and it works. Let's stay with the wikihelp, until the other solution proves better. (snip) > > I forgot where do we stand with the extended tooltips, is there still a > technical issue to extract them and what remains is the l10n problem? One of the challenges. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] 2016 budget proposals
Hi, Em 26/02/2016 09:34, Jan Holesovsky escreveu: > Hi, > > Florian Effenberger píše v St 10. 02. 2016 v 18:05 +0100: > >> In order to support the community even better, we would like to create a >> better budgetting process, have a concrete plan for 2016 already now, >> with a few "pools" or "buckets" defined, ideally: >> >> 1. community events (aimed at getting face-time for community contributors) >> 2. infrastructure (e.g. compute power/hardware/storage, cloud, VMs), >> 3. marketing (aimed at representing the project to the outside world) >> 4. other (anything that does not fit into the above) > > Olivier is currently working on a webservice that is able to show the > help online [and hopefully in a better quality than the current > wikihelp]. Currently for evaluation: http://hc3.edx.srv.br and is work in progress. I restored the navigation and I left ugly styles to make sure it will be improved one day. > > For a long time, we are discussing also a way to edit the help more > conveniently, ideally directly from the web interface [use case: the > user sees wrong / old help content -> proposes an update -> somebody > from the documentation team approves that -> everybody wins :-)] > > Unfortunately, the progress is slow, we did not attract any web > developers yet, and trying to develop that only via GSoC tasks is too > slow. > > I propose to have a Documentation budget item for a tender to create > such a webservice - any objections, please? Absolutely not. +1000. > > Technically, it would still work on top of the .xhp files; it turns out > that we can clean up the format a bit to make it more readable, and > changing all the tools and workflows is too much work. modulo the insertion on the in each xhp file, which is easily automated and should not change a pixel in the display. regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New writer
Welcome Andrew Skilled writers are a jewel we care. Please follow the advise of the landing page of ODFAuthors.org to get your account: "Please write to webmas...@odfauthors.org and request an account. (We had to stop self-registration because of too many spam accounts.) But first! Please subscribe to the odfauthors-discuss mailing list and introduce yourself." Looking forward to see you in our documentation community. Kind regards Olivier Em 24/02/2016 11:13, Andrew Wetmore escreveu: > Hi: > > I'm an experienced writer and editor, with about 15 years' experience on > software documentation teams. I also have training as a software quality > assurance specialist. Under my other hat, I write plays, screenplays, and > choose-your-own-adventure games. > > I have been using LibreOffice for several years, migrating from Open Office. > > I request a user account for the ODF authors' site. > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] FORECAST.ETS functions
Hi All I just submitted new help pages for FORECAST.ETS.* Calc fucntions and they were quickly approved by Caolán. I also experimentally loaded all help files in a temporary web server, and tweaked the XSLT to display in a broswer. You can navigate in http://hc3.edx.srv.br and beyond to see the help pages almost as if they were opened in the localhelp (same styles BTW). So the new functions can be seen from here: http://hc3.edx.srv.br/text/scalc/01/func_forecastetspimult.xhp Later, we will have a TDF website to accomodate this experiment. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] FORECAST.ETS functions
Hi Peter Good to know, but puzzling. But on Firefox, Chrome and Rekonq in Ubuntu, the pages displays OK. I know it does not display on MS Edge as well, when I tested. If you get plain text, it think the browser could not do the style transformation (XSLT) that changes the xhp files into html. I don't know if this is a config of Iceweasel. If one wants to hack the pages and transformations just issue wget http://hc3.edx.srv.br/tt.zip and upload + unzip into the / of a webserver. Regards Em 09/03/2016 15:19, Peter Hillier-Brook escreveu: > Regrettably they do not display in Iceweasel (Firefox); just plain text. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1
Hello In the last weeks I updated the first 4 chapters of the 5.0 Getting Started book to the 5.1 version and placed them in the 5.1 Draft folder for revision. The files are with Track changes enabled so it will be easy to see the changes. The contents addition are moderately deep in details, bearing that this is a Getting Started book. It will be important to revise the contents and the English and give a feedbak on the job already done. Thank you in advance http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-5.1 Note: The chapters are uploaded, if don't see them then there is an issue on permissions I need to fix. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1
I just made them "publish internally", which I think will make them available once logged in... Em 07/04/2016 11:03, Andrew Wetmore escreveu: > I see the folder, but no files. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Problems editing help files
Hi Peter Em 07/04/2016 15:23, ptoye escreveu: > I'm trying for the first time to edit a live help file and have come up > against a few problems. *WARNING* I'm a Git virgin so please treat me > kindly. Git is the best tool for those who tamed it. > > Firstly, the Git tutorials that I've found assume that all files are in a > single one-level directory structure. Easy for teaching, but not for real > life! I cloned the help files into a local Git repository (that seemed to > work OK) and edited a file. congrats! > git status then tells me that help has modified content. If I do "git add > help" You only add files that are not yet under git control (e.g. new files). If you modified an existing file under git control you will see the differences with - git diff (will show the diff between the edited file and the one in the repository) - git status (will tell you what files have been modified and what file you have in your workspace that are not under git control) git status gives me exactly the same as before,Obviously I'm doing > something wrong, but can't see what it is. Do I have to type the entire path > & file name into the git add command? To submit your changes you must "commit" them to your local copy of git. git commit file1 file2 file3... git commit -a (=all modified files that are under git controlled tree) An editor will open to put your remarks on the changes you did. The chosen editor depends on your git settings. Once you save the contents and quit the editor, git commits the changes in your local copy. To submit your changes for revision, use git push (you must get a login in the LO gerrit service. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit ) In summary, it is not that easy for the neophyte. But come to #libreoffice-dev, #libreoffice-doc in Freenode IRC so we can help you on the fly. > > Secondly, the LO Writer Help Authoring extension doesn't seem to be acting > as advertised. Previously, I'd tried editing a few local help files, and so > my document root was a test directory. As the wiki suggests I tried changing > this, but the "Help Authoring|Set Document Root" menu item, asks me to set a > directory, but "Help Authoring|Open File" still goes to the old root. Again, > am I doing something wrong, or is there a bug? Although HelpAuthoring has evolved a lot recently and is very usable it still has some rough edges. If you edit existing help files you don't need to set the document root, it is already set for the old root. P.S. Since I also had all the same issues as you in the begining, I always save the changed files in a separate folder when I cross an issue in git/gerrit/logerrit/helpauthoring that I don't uderstand. I hope this help you a bit regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1
Hello Andrew, All
In ODF Authors site, you can get the writing style guide in
Home / LibreOffice / English / Resources for Contributors / Ch5 Style
Guide
I think it worth to all authors to follow it.
Exerpt:
Writing style
The following list summarizes our preferred writing style. Some of these
points are discussed in more detail in the tips for writers, reviews,
and editors starting on page 6.
* Use short, simple, easy-to-understand words and sentences. Be concise
and clear.
* Write in active voice, using passive voice only when necessary or
appropriate. A case of appropriate passive voice is when the focus of
the sentence is on the receiver of an action whose doer is obvious or is
not important. For example, The File dialog box is displayed is OK.
* Use the present tense, using future tense only when necessary or
appropriate. Try to make your descriptions timeless. For example, write
The File dialog box is displayed, rather than The File dialog box will
be displayed. Use future tense only when one event is necessarily later
than another. For example, If you use styles, your documents will be
easier to maintain.
* Avoid over-using you. For example, instead of saying if you want to
have table headers repeat on a new page, you need to do yyy, say to have
table headers repeat..., do yyy.
* When appropriate (as in instructions), use the imperative mood. For
example, instead of you should not use slang, say do not use slang.
* In circumstances where the only alternative to you is the passive
voice, use you. For example, instead of in this window xxx can be done,
say in this window you can do xxx.
* Use gender-neutral language, but don’t use awkward phrases like he or
she to do so. See page 8 for some examples.
Variations of English
For consistency, when writing the user guides we are following US
English spelling conventions and UK English punctuation conventions.
See also “Punctuation” on page 6.
You can use other spelling or punctuation conventions when writing other
documents.
Regards
Olivier
Em 07/04/2016 12:43, Andrew Wetmore escreveu:
> I am also uncomfortable with the change from active to passive voice.
> Passive voice is harder to read and to understand, expecially for those for
> whom English is not the first language.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I said this to Oliver directly, forgetting to "reply all":
>>
>> I don't think it's a good idea to move away from immediacy ("you") to a
>> more remote tone ("the user"). This goes contrary to current trends in
>> documentation.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Hazel Russman <hazeldeb...@googlemail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:59:01 -0300
>>> Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> In the last weeks I updated the first 4 chapters of the 5.0 Getting
>>>> Started book to the 5.1 version and placed them in the 5.1 Draft
>>>> folder for revision. The files are with Track changes enabled so it
>>>> will be easy to see the changes.
>>>>
>>>> The contents addition are moderately deep in details, bearing that
>>>> this is a Getting Started book.
>>>>
>>>> It will be important to revise the contents and the English and give a
>>>> feedbak on the job already done.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-5.1
>>>>
>>>> Note: The chapters are uploaded, if don't see them then there is an
>>>> issue on permissions I need to fix.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've downloaded the preface. I'll have a look at it, mainly for English
>>> and style.
>>>
>>> --
>>> If any members of GCHQ are reading this, shame on you! I fought for
>>> your right to belong to a trade union and now you are taking away my
>>> right to privacy?
>>>
>>> H Russman
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1
Hello You are right. You must be talking about the Preface. Track changes accept/reject filtered by author is your friend to put the text on track. also for quick communication, we have an IRC channel for documentation: in freenode, access #libreoffice-doc https://webchat.freenode.net/ regards Em 07/04/2016 13:24, Andrew Wetmore escreveu: > That is good to know. However, in the material I am looking at, the > edits do not seem to follow the style guide. The edits move from active > to passive voice and from direct to indirect speech. > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation
Hello Peter Are you refering to help content or Guide Books? On Guide books, there is no need for bugzilla. On help contents, then it worth to note that HC is translated into several languages. A change in the English string due to a style improvement will put the string in fuzzy state, forcing the translators to review the string. This is not always fun for them, because each language has its style and the change in English may not apply for the target language (I speak for myself because I am a translator). So in case of HelpContent, I recomend proceeding changes of style only when the help file is being touched by a content update, to prevent a massive batch of string review. And to answer your question, no need for bugzilla for style changes, only for content change, update or creation. Kind regards Olivier Em 13/04/2016 05:51, ptoye escreveu: > One further issue: I don't know the LO bureaucracy but the "allow to" issue > hasn't been filed as a bug in Bugzilla. Should I do this or isn't it > necessary? > > > > > - > Peter > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Use-of-allow-to-in-documentation-tp4167829p4181012.html > Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Help files are inconsistent
Hello Peter Em 13/04/2016 05:58, ptoye escreveu: > As part of my efforts to clean up some help files I've found that at least > one file that I downloaded from git://gerrit.libreoffice.org/help doesn't > have the same text as in the corresponding LO help file (5.0.5 en-GB). This > may of course happen on other files. > > This raises the question - is this a deliberate fork or has something gone > wrong? > > The file is help/source/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp if that's any > help. > You can get the history of the file in Opengrok: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/history/help/source/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp The help content has gaps in contents and updates since long time and these gaps are progressively being closed by our eforts to deliver a consistent and precise documentation for users. It however does not happen in a finger snap, unfortunately. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Problems editing help files
Hello Peter some remarks 1) git status: Strange... the modified file should have the full path listed modified: path/to/file/filename.xhp 2) git commit -m "3rd party" You must give the name of the file you modified for commit. That is git commit -m "3rd party" file1 file2 file3... 3) git add help This "help" stuff is already been under git control, no need ot add it again. 4) git status Same as 1. "git diff" will list the changes you did since last "git pull" regards Olivier Em 08/04/2016 11:38, ptoye escreveu: > Thanks Olivier. I don't have time now to do an interactive chat. Possibly > next week. > > I'm sure that Git is great, but as with all such tools it has to do a lot of > things so it gets complicated fairly quickly. As an ex-software writer I > sympathise with the designer. > > But here's a quick excerpt of a console session. There's just one changed > file 4 directories deep from /help/ which is the top level of the clone from > the LO site. > > > <http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4180637/GitSession.jpg> > > > > - > Peter > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problems-editing-help-files-tp4180557p4180637.html > Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tracking documentation content gap
Hello Martin Thanks for aswering. Em 16/03/2016 07:58, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu: > Hi, > > if you are asking about the guides, the guides were updated to the latest > release versions as seen on the publications wiki, i.e. Getting Started > Guide was recently released for 5.0. It needs updating to 5.1. All the > work-in-progress can be tracked on the odfauthors.org site. Dedicated > module guides were mostly released for the 4.x series so they might not be > so much up-to-date. I'm glad to get your summary. > > IMHO GS is the most important guide as it is the entry level guide and it > is mostly required by any public administration or large deployment where > LO wants to be present - it is the proof that documentation exists and is > up-to-date. And of all the guides this one is the one that l10n teams do > and probably should devote most resources to localize (if they do not have > resources to localize all). Indeed. There seems to be a concensus that the english GS is the base for translations. > > The GS guides do not cover all aspects of LO, and they are not intended to. Agree. > For that there are special guides for modules. So the GS guide is updated > and checked for errors with every update and I believe that Jean and her > team did a good work (as much as I could see from localizing the updated > strings), so I guess there are no known errors nor are there really missing > topics in GS50. It just needs to be updated to the latest release(s). And thus my question: what are the topics introduced in the software that needs documentation writing? If there is a list somewhere, then fine, and I'd like to see it. If there is'nt, then ok I'll try to write one. > > With 5.1 (and upcoming 5.2) there was/is a lot of menu restructuring going > on in LO so the updaters will have a lot of work with updating the menu > paths and with updating the screenshots (where menus are present), so the > 5.1 update of GS guide will not be so much in adding content but in getting > it true to all the changes. And with all those menu changes LO really does > not have a truly up-to-date general or module-specific guide (LibreOffice > Base Handbook might be the only exemption, because there were no radical > changes in Base). Indeed > > So I guess it would help to set priorities and the teams that will work on > those priorities. And we, the l10n teams will have something to localize > again ... There is a wikipage that shows the tasklist for the Guides[1]. I see that the GS guides are quite updated and have been carried well given the resource limitations. The modules guides concerns me because they are lagging behind LibreOffice development. For these modules guides I plan to write a wiki page with the topics x version that are missing. That way we will have a roadmap on producing contents, that will come along the update of the existing guides. If there are objections to this initiative, please let me know (It may be a very large job to carry). [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks > > Lp, m. > > 2016-03-15 21:08 GMT+01:00 Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>: > >> Hi >> >> I visited several documentation pages in the wiki and I have a question. >> >> Assuming I am a skilled LO writer user, if I have to start producing >> content, where do I look to start? What are the missing contents in the >> guides vis-a-vis of the developments of the latest LO versions? >> >> Please let me know if there is a wiki page for that purpose because the >> one I saw is refers to easy-hacks and is outdated, poorly highlighted. >> >> If help is welcome here, does it make sense to the documentation >> comunity to have a metabug in bugzilla to track the missing >> documentation contents? [1]. An update of the easy hack wikipage shall >> suffice? Or a specific wiki page for that purpose is prefered? >> >> Please advise. >> >> [1] metabug for helpcontent missing/outdated pages: >> https://goo.gl/ixqz7N >> >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> >> > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0
Hello Jean I just uploaded the LO5.1 GS Preface in the 5.1 LO Draft folder. On reading it, I noticed that under the FAQ section, the 1st question still refers to LibreOffice 4.4. Regards Olivier Em 04/03/2016 00:02, Jean Weber escreveu: > I have now compiled and uploaded the ODT and PDF of the full book > Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0, to both ODFAuthors and the > Publications wiki. I'll soon add it to the get-help/docs page on the > website. > > I'm working on the print version and should have that published within > a day or so and will add links to it from wiki and get-help/docs. > > As soon as I've finished all that, I expect someone to find a major > error or several. That's the way it usually works! > > Cheers, Jean > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Missing documentation wiki page
Hello I have created a wiki page - and Dennis Roczek make it look pretty - to collect the features in LibreOffice not (yet) covered by the Guides. It is currently a work in progress, and I expect a couple of weeks more to have it stuffed with significant information. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Documentation_missing I'd like to invite the community to add information and make it useful to help all in making the Guides up to date. Authors will appreciate to pick a entry of this wiki page and write about to add to our Guides. A by-product of this work will be source to also complete LO helpcontent. Thank you -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation]
Hello Kees Verified and noted. Thanks for catching this. Kind regards Em 01/04/2016 03:24, Kees Kriek escreveu: > It looks to me that when I open LibreOffice Help on Windows and search > for certification, on this specific point I see Help relevant to > Windows, and on Linux I see the Help for Linux. > > > Maybe the difference between Linux and Windows can be described better in > the Held and in the Guides? -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help-files: Large-scale 'cosmetic' changes
Hello Peter If you are comfortable with the help files, then the bug#80430 [1] has a list of missing help files that LibreOffice need. Everything written for the help files can (and will) be reused in the Guides books and vice versa, modulo some adjustments. There is a big overlap of contents between the two media. Contents for documentation, either text or media is much needed at the moment. Pick one of the open blocking bugs listed in [1] and write a text document covering the topic. I must admit there is a game of googling around to get the sources of the topic, in order to compose a usefull help page. [1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80430 Kind regards Olivier Em 31/03/2016 14:26, ptoye escreveu: > Hi Sophi, > > It's a bit confusing as there are two threads involved here. The first one is > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Use-of-quot-allow-to-quot-in-documentation-td4167829.html > but a second thread got started about "cosmetic" changes. Does this help > you? Most of my comments really should be in the original thread. > > I'm really talking about the help files, which is where I started. I can have > a look at the guides to see if they have the same or similar problems. But > one project at a time please! > > Best regards, -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contribution
Hello Bilal Welcome. In what area of the documentation would you like to contribute? There are plenty of areas where help is needed. Kind regards Olivier Em 28/03/2016 12:37, Bilal El-Ghazoini escreveu: > Hi, I am a new contributor. As a libre office user I would like to contribute > as part of a project I am doing. Any help you can give will be appreciated. > > Many thanks Bilal. > > Sent from my iPhone > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Geting Started 5.1 Update chapter 4 - Writer
Hello I have uploaded Chapt 4 - Writer of the GS book, with some images and menus updates. regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [odfauthors-discuss] user guide for large complex documentation with Writer
Hello Roger Comments below. Em 19/04/2016 12:39, Jean Weber escreveu: > Forwarding this to a more appropriate discussion list. --Jean > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Roger Caws <polys...@hotmail.co.uk> > Date: Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:32 AM > Subject: [odfauthors-discuss] user guide for large complex > documentation with Writer > To: odfauthors-disc...@lists.odfauthors.org > > > Hello, > This is me > 1 Experienced documentation author and project manager > 2 background is large complex documentation using Word Perfect and > Microsoft office in a windows environment > 3 disenchanted with Microsoft quality and direction. > 4 recently switched to Linux Mint with zero knowledge of Linux > 5 used lots of tutorials, on-line manuals etc with mixed results > 6 Most of what is out there assumes a) a knowledge of Linux and its > quirks; b) that the reader wants to know just enough for simple > documents. > 6 decided that best way to learn how to use LibreOffice is by writing > a manual for Writer (complex projects) > 7 Have firmed up on design which has three components > a) A manual which covers "how to" of ALL the facilities in Writer (and > actually uses as many of them as possible) > b) A construction history which details how this particular manual was > developed and how to use it as a start point for other documents which > use a lot of the facilities of Writer (and assumes that the reader has > limited experience of manual development) > c) A section showing alternative settings and results for design so > that the reader is not restricted to choices made for THIS manual > > This is my Questions > 1 Would the existing authors organisation welcome such a project or > regard it as an impertinence. No impertinence. All projects and efforts are welcome, but there is little to gain with repetition of work if resources are in short. We already have a set of books on LibreOffice: In-depth module guides and a Getting Started guide. They were written with the best practices in word processing (we taste our own dog food). These books however need update to the latest version of LibreOffice, and this is a large project per se. We also have a process of authoring books on LibreOffice that is documented as well. But books and processes are not carved in stone, never. We will appreciate your experience and advise on how to improve our content and processes. > 2 This will be a non-trivial document and I would welcome more > knowledgeable input given my own weakness in this area. Could this > happen and how would it work? Our documenting process is available in ODF Authors website http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/resources-for-contributers We will be glad to know your thoughts on it. ODF Authors has many books awaiting to be updated to release 5.1 of LibreOffice. Some are as old das version 3.x. One important note: Our LibreOffice books are source for many translations worldwide. Our processes and content must consider this fact. Write me offline if you need an login for ODFAuthors. > 3 It is going to take some time so how would new releases be > incorporated so that it was up-to-date when released Software development is not tied to documentation avaliability. We lag here. But with resources, it is perfectly possible to have books and software synchronized at launch date. > > The project still has a primary purpose of ramping up my learning > curve to the point where I can undertake other similar complexity > projects with confidence. By joining our doc team you will gain a lot of experience and share your own with us. > > I am not aware of anyone actually publicly documenting a documentation > project previously so it should be quite an interesting thing to do. Please look at the "resources for contributors" in ODFAuthors. > > I look forward to your comments > > Kind Regards > Roger Caws > Thank you for your contact. We look forward to have you in our team. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Help contents writers and authors... this may help you
HI As some of you know already, I have found a way to have the helpcontent displayed in a browser (all except MS Edge, which does not seem to like XML+XSLT). Although it is highly experimental, it nevertheless allows to read and browse pages more easily (I think) than the local help or the wikihelp. It has limitations and advantages, and is work in progress: - Preservation of the look and feel (same css) - easy navigation (backward, forward) using the browser nav buttons - easier reading - a rough index was created from entries, but unsorted - Search the index with browser search function - easy display of pages: just put the xhp page in the URL of the browser - information on the xhp page and module displayed - en-US only at the moment. Access: http://vm173.documentfoundation.org I uploaded the master helpcontent yesterday night. Enjoy. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help files are inconsistent
Hello Peter Em 26/04/2016 06:01, ptoye escreveu: > Thanks Olivier. > > I can't see from this where the problem happened (I don't know Opengrok at > all - never heard of it before your post - more thanks). > > The files on Opengrok have the same content as the files I downloaded. But > the help text from F1 in LO is different (and a bit better), so it looks as > if somehow the distributed text has been cleaned up but not put onto the > repository. The reporsitory in opengrok has the latest changes (we call it master) and will be the help content of LibreOffice 5.2 later this year. When you pulled the help content with git, you downloaded the same content as displayed in opengrok. The distributed text is from release 5.1 or lower, which means that you see differences between releases. If the forthcomming release 5.2 is worse than the distributed release, we did it wrong. If you want to check the latest content, you can download and install the nightly builds of LibreOffice. http://vm173.documentfoundation.org has the help content XHP file directly rendered in the browser. Just append the path/file of the XHP file in the url to get it displayed, e.g. to display text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp navigate to http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp > > Details (if it helps): > > Under "User options - Hide menu bar" the text from the repository is "Select > to hide...". From the help text it's "Select this option to hide..." and in > many other places as well. > > I noticed this by chance. I searched the text you mention and found this: 8<-- git grep Select\ to\ hide shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp: Select to hide the reader's menu bar when the document is active. shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp: Select to hide the reader's toolbar when the document is active. shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp: Select to hide the reader's controls when the document is active. tdf@olivier-ntbk:~/git/core/helpcontent2/source/text$ git grep Select\ this\ option scalc/01/05070500.xhp:Select this option if you want the first page to start with a number other than 1. scalc/01/12090105.xhp:Select this option, and then click the type of subtotal that you want to calculate in the list. shared/01/05030100.xhp: Select this option and then enter a percentage value in the box, where 100% corresponds to single line spacing. shared/01/05030600.xhp: Select this option, and then click a location in the position grid. shared/01/05210700.xhp:Turns on color transparency. Select this option, and then enter a number in the box, where 0% is fully opaque and 100% is fully transparent. shared/01/05210700.xhp:Applies a transparency gradient to the current fill color. Select this option, and then set the gradient properties. shared/01/06050500.xhp: Adds a bullet to the beginning of a line. Select this option, and then click the Character button to choose a bullet style. shared/01/06050500.xhp: Displays an image for the bullet. Select this option, and then click Select to locate the image file that you want to use. The image gets embedded into the document. shared/01/06050500.xhp: Displays an image for the bullet. Select this option, and then click Select to locate the image file that you want to use. The image gets inserted as a link to the image file. shared/autopi/0117.xhp:Select this option if you already use an address book in Firefox or Iceweasel. 8<-- > > My issue is that this is one of the files I cleaned up, and now some merging > is going to be needed, which complicates life for everyone, including no > doubt the translators. Once you modify the file, you have done an "enhancement" to our software. The differences between your work and the existing text is a "patch". A patch must be submitted to our git repository interface named gerrit. Someone, (possibly me or another developer [1]) will review your patch and approve, comment and ask for more work, or reject it. Once approved your enhancement is part of LibreOffice. How to submit a patch: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit regards Olivier [1] https://goo.gl/lhDNGt Gerrit: https://goo.gl/0cix0 > > > Olivier Hallot-4 wrote >> Hello Peter >> >> You can get the history of the file in Opengrok: >> >> http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/history/help/source/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp >> >> The help content has gaps in contents and updates since long time and >> these gaps are progressively being closed by our eforts to deliver a >> consistent and precise documentation for users. It however does not >> happen in a finger snap, unfortunately. >> >> Regards >> -- >> Olivier Hall
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Manage Changes in Sidebar (Writer)
Hello Jean Em 18/05/2016 18:52, Jean Weber escreveu: > If this is mentioned in the user guide, I missed it. If it's not mentioned, > I'll add it. Thank you. That escaped me. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] [IMPORTANT] Documentation team CONFERENCE CALL Wednesday May 18th
Hello Our Documentation Team Conference Call is scheduled for Wednesday May 18 at 19:00 CET, 18:00 UTC The agenda for the call is the following: + Status of help on-line + Status of te tasks defined in May 4th call: Books + Documentation team needs, issues and concerns + New forms of documentation + TDF's LibreOffice tutorials? + Documentation & Translation + New tasks I will send in this list the hangout URL 10 minutes before the call, and in the #libreoffice-doc and #libreoffice-NLP channels in Freenode. Looking forward to hearing you! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1 Guide
Hello Jean Em 17/05/2016 02:02, Jean Weber escreveu: > I've gone through Chapters 1, 2, 3 and accepted Hazel's edits and > replaced a figure in Ch1 that I had flagged as containing an error. > > I also replaced an out-of-date figure in Chapter 4. I think all 4 > chapters and the Preface are ready to publish. They are here: > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo-5.1/ > > Olivier, shall I continue to act as publisher for chapters when I > think they are done, especially when no one else is doing any further > technical reviewing on them or even indicates an interest in doing so? > > --Jean > I'll be glad to have you as publisher. Our periodic hangouts aims to turn the documentation production into an exciting activity and increase our team. From last may 4th, I expect new chapters updates of the 5.1 GS, ad I have just uploaded the Calc chapter of the same. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [IMPORTANT] Documentation team CONFERENCE CALL Wednesday May 18th
A correction: since Europe went to Daylight Saving Time, the correct time is CET 19:00 UTC: 17:00 regards Olivier Em 17/05/2016 08:25, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello > > Our Documentation Team Conference Call is scheduled for Wednesday May 18 > at 19:00 CET, 18:00 UTC > > The agenda for the call is the following: > > + Status of help on-line > > + Status of te tasks defined in May 4th call: Books > > + Documentation team needs, issues and concerns > > + New forms of documentation > + TDF's LibreOffice tutorials? > > + Documentation & Translation > > + New tasks > > I will send in this list the hangout URL 10 minutes before the call, and > in the #libreoffice-doc and #libreoffice-NLP channels in Freenode. > > Looking forward to hearing you! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started 5.1 Guide
Hello Jean Em 17/05/2016 15:10, Jean Weber escreveu: > On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> > wrote: > >> Hello Jean >> >> Em 17/05/2016 02:02, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> I've gone through Chapters 1, 2, 3 and accepted Hazel's edits and >>> replaced a figure in Ch1 that I had flagged as containing an error. >>> >>> I also replaced an out-of-date figure in Chapter 4. I think all 4 >>> chapters and the Preface are ready to publish. They are here: >>> >> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo-5.1/ >>> >>> Olivier, shall I continue to act as publisher for chapters when I >>> think they are done, especially when no one else is doing any further >>> technical reviewing on them or even indicates an interest in doing so? >>> >>> --Jean >>> >> I'll be glad to have you as publisher. >> >> Our periodic hangouts aims to turn the documentation production into an >> exciting activity and increase our team. From last may 4th, I expect new >> chapters updates of the 5.1 GS, ad I have just uploaded the Calc chapter >> of the same. >> >> Kind regards >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 >> http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br > > > I forgot to fix the cross-references that Olivier mentioned in an earlier > note. I (or someone) will need to do that before I publish the chapters. > > --Jean > I'll do it right now on all of them. Thanks for pointing it regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started 5.1 Guide
Hi Jean Em 17/05/2016 15:17, Olivier Hallot escreveu: >> I forgot to fix the cross-references that Olivier mentioned in an earlier >> note. I (or someone) will need to do that before I publish the chapters. >> >> --Jean >> > > I'll do it right now on all of them. > > Thanks for pointing it > > regards > I have verified and uploaded the file back. regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] OmegaT and GitHub
Hi Milos
I detected this error, related to gnome-keyring.
---8<---
17827: Info: Início da execução do SVN 'upload' (SVN_START)
17827: Aviso: SVN 'update' erro: svn: E170001: Commit failed (details
follow): (SVN_ERROR)
17827: Aviso: svn: E170001: Authentication required for
'<https://github.com:443> GitHub' (SVN_ERROR)
17827: Info: Início da execução do SVN 'upload' (SVN_START)
17827: Aviso: SVN 'update' erro: svn: E215000: Commit failed (details
follow): (SVN_ERROR)
17827: Aviso: svn: E215000: GNOME Keyring is locked and we are
non-interactive (SVN_ERROR)
---8<---
I googled around and found the soution here:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/206604/svn-and-gnome-keyring
Now it works...
Thank you the help anyway.
Kind regards
Olivier
Em 14/05/2016 12:42, Milos Sramek escreveu:
> Hi Oliver,
>
> I assume that you have checked out the stuff using the subversion
> protocol and the problem is that OmegaT asks you for you password every
> few minutes.
>
>
> This seems to be a bug, perhaps in the internal subversion client of
> OmegaT. It is caused by that the configuration file with your password
> sometimes gets deleted (maybe when closing OmegaT).
>
> My workaround resides in rewriting the configuration file each time I
> start OmegaT.
>
> Details:
> I start omegat by an 'otg' command defined (in my .bashrc) as follows:
>
> function otg () {
> (
> ff=2cf47db22f5ce651cc5aac0bdab54186;
> cd ~/.subversion/auth/svn.simple;
> chmod 644 $ff; #maybe that this is not necessaary
> cp $ff.1 $ff
> );
> omegat ~/LOGuides-git &
> }
>
> where:
> ~/.subversion/auth/svn.simple/2cf47db22f5ce651cc5aac0bdab54186 is the
> file where the subversion client stores the credentials. This gets
> rewritten. There are perhaps several such files in the directory, you
> have to find the right one.
>
> ~/.subversion/auth/svn.simple/2cf47db22f5ce651cc5aac0bdab54186.1 is a
> backup version with the password
>
> ~/LOGuides-git is the directory of my translation project
>
> The backup file looks like this:
>
> K 8
> passtype
> V 6
> simple
> K 8
> password
> V 9
> your_github_password_in_plain_text
> K 15
> svn:realmstring
> V 31
> <https://github.com:443> GitHub
> K 8
> username
> V 11
> your_user_name_at_github
> END
>
> I hope it will help.
>
> There are also several options, which may help in translation a lot
> (reusing translation of an old guide version, storing current GUI
> translation from Pootle in a glossary, using machine translation from
> English or other language). Their setup is not really trivial - I will
> be glad to help you with that, too.
>
>
> best
> Milos
>
>
>
> On 2016-05-14 00:03, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have set the LibreOffice OmegaT project in github for pt-BR, Sophie
>> gave me admin rights.
>>
>> I was able from OmegaT to access the project in GitHub and I have a
>> local copy accessible for translation with OmegaT. So far so good.
>>
>> But I keep being asked to authenticate in order to synchronize my local
>> translation with github. The credentials I put there (ohallot/) are
>> refused always.
>>
>> Any pointer where I should investigate to fix this?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>
>
--
Olivier Hallot
Comunidade LibreOffice
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03
http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br
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[libreoffice-documentation] OmegaT and GitHub
Hi I have set the LibreOffice OmegaT project in github for pt-BR, Sophie gave me admin rights. I was able from OmegaT to access the project in GitHub and I have a local copy accessible for translation with OmegaT. So far so good. But I keep being asked to authenticate in order to synchronize my local translation with github. The credentials I put there (ohallot/) are refused always. Any pointer where I should investigate to fix this? Thank you -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Message from Translators to Authors...
Dear Authors When translating some of the ODF Authors books I found the following issues that hit the speed of the translation and efficiency of the CAT tools. 1) When using cross-references to objects in the text (Figure, Table, Frames, etc...) please don't use "Category and Number" in the reference, but only "Number". Put the Category out of the cross-reference and write it in the text. This is because the Category is translatable while the number is not. For example, the text "See Figure 12 on page 30" If "Figure 12" is is a cross-reference with Category and Number, we can't translate "Figure". We have to change the cross reference to Number in the translated text, and this requires a longer revision process. CAT tools are not prepared to detect this (OmegaT). 2) Wherever possible, avoid direct formatting (DF). If impossible, please clean the DF before applying DF changes. DF has consequences in CAT tools by mushrooming formatting tags that fools translation memories and turns translation a longer, manual task. The lesser DF, the best. Thank you and kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Invitation for hangout on LibreOffice documentation, May 4th 2016.
Hello Our hangout meeting will take place at 19:00 CET, 18:00 UTC tomorrow May 4th. Please mark your agenda. I will send the hangout link to the list 10 minutes before, and to the #libreoffice-doc chat room at freenode.net See you there! Olivier Em 28/04/2016 16:00, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello all > > I am proposing that the documentation community get toghether in a > periodic Google hangout session, to make our collaboration more dynamic. > > Sophie has kindly set a doodle agenda for this purpose, so everybosy can > set the prefered time spot for meeting. > > Please visit > > http://doodle.com/poll/f2bg26qs5eh4fc86 > > and mark the spots you desire. > > The hangout will last for 1 hour maximum. I planned the first session > for May 4th, next wednesday. If wednesday is not good for some of you, > we will discuss if another weekday is better, but I'd like to keep May > 4th as a kick-off session. > > A pad is already set to minute our meeting: > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > It is important also to be connected to the #libreoffice-doc IRC channel > for immediate communcation, and the hangout session URL will be there or > sent to this list 5 minutes before the deadline. > > In the first meeting, I'd like to discuss > - People to introduce themselves (name, skills,...) > - Existing issues and challenges of documenting LO > - Action items for different documentation fronts > + The localhelp content issues > + The Getting Started book for 5.1 and forthcomming 5.2 > + The modules guides update > + Multimedia, new forms of documenting > - Periodicity and time of the documentation meeting > -_LibConf Brno documentation track > - Other > > I hope this agenda is not too bold for our team. Please come to our > first meeting next wednesday May 4th. > > Kind regards > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Invitation for hangout on LibreOffice documentation, May 4th 2016.
Hello good people Please do not forget to mark your prefered time slice for our documentation hangout next Wednesday May 4th. The doodle URL is http://doodle.com/poll/f2bg26qs5eh4fc86 Let's be many to come to this meeting. Kind regards Olivier Em 28/04/2016 16:00, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello all > > I am proposing that the documentation community get toghether in a > periodic Google hangout session, to make our collaboration more dynamic. > > Sophie has kindly set a doodle agenda for this purpose, so everybosy can > set the prefered time spot for meeting. > > Please visit > > http://doodle.com/poll/f2bg26qs5eh4fc86 > > and mark the spots you desire. > > The hangout will last for 1 hour maximum. I planned the first session > for May 4th, next wednesday. If wednesday is not good for some of you, > we will discuss if another weekday is better, but I'd like to keep May > 4th as a kick-off session. > > A pad is already set to minute our meeting: > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > It is important also to be connected to the #libreoffice-doc IRC channel > for immediate communcation, and the hangout session URL will be there or > sent to this list 5 minutes before the deadline. > > In the first meeting, I'd like to discuss > - People to introduce themselves (name, skills,...) > - Existing issues and challenges of documenting LO > - Action items for different documentation fronts > + The localhelp content issues > + The Getting Started book for 5.1 and forthcomming 5.2 > + The modules guides update > + Multimedia, new forms of documenting > - Periodicity and time of the documentation meeting > -_LibConf Brno documentation track > - Other > > I hope this agenda is not too bold for our team. Please come to our > first meeting next wednesday May 4th. > > Kind regards > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Hangout link
Hello The hangout link is https://hangouts.google.com/call/7csiwke3vbdb7pi6rozcgsoyyue We will also use a pad for the minutes http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you there!!! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of the May 4th Documentation team meeting
May 4th Documentation team call Presents: Olivier Hallot, Leo Moons, Roger Caws Documentation Update: Help content modernization * Objective: turn the helpcontent into a richer experience for the user, either on-line or offline * How: use the existing XML files (XHP) and display in a modern browser. + http://vm173.documentfoundation.org for the on-line version at the moment + Experiemental index extracted from XHP files + not yet integrated with LibreOffice help system + Work in progress, need of development/web support + soon: possiblity to edit XHP files directly in vm173 Help content update * Objective: Make helpcontent consistent with LibreOffice releases + LibreOffice underwent many changes in UI and has new features, many are undocumented. * How: Review current help content and update with current features. + A meta bug in Bugzilla is open to collect missing documentaiotn of HC + Bug 80430 – LOCALHELP: Features x Documentation gap meta issue + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80430 + E.G. Impress Photo Album, New Calc functions, Changes in UI, etc... + pick one and write about it in any media: blog post, text document, mail, etc... Books in ODF Authors * Note: Books on LibreOffice from ODFAuthors appreciated as source for translation + perceived as "The Official LibreOffice Documentation" * Objective: Have LibreOffice books released at time of LibreOffice release + we need to fast forward to release 5.1 and 5.2 * How: Review existing books and write about new features, and usage. * Chapters 1-4 are updated and partially reviewed * Chapters 5-11 in the queue. Team feedback * Major issues to solve for community participation and fun + Leo: (Also translator for Dutch) 1) User interface in pootle + help and docs 2) People write their own doc's targeted for Dutch students. Leo: Pootle is 99% at time of release (Dutch) +Issue: repetition of work, time consuming, 10x the same word Leo: Books need human resources Need knowledge on the OmegaT process Workshop on OmegaT or other CAT * How to improve participation Leo: get a good way of CAT, support * LibreOffice Conference in Brno: [x]A documentaiton track? [x]A hackfest for documenters [x]A doc team comm' meeting? Admnistrative: * Is the hangout time and day of the week OK for you? YES * Next meeting May 18th What can we do for next meeting (Action items) AI: Olivier take the Calc chapter for Getting started Roger takes the Impress chapter of the same book. Leo takes Draw chapter -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Hangout of the documentation team in 10 minutes
Hi Folks Here is the link for the hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/evvukee5snhzzgxcboppv7jydie And here is the link for the minutes pad. http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you soon -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hello Jean, All Em 25/07/2016 18:16, Jean Weber escreveu: > Olivier, > What platform is used for the meeting? IRC? Google Hangouts? Something > else? I'll probably need to learn how to use whatever it is. --Jean Google hangout. Let me know if you have trouble puting it to work. I also recomend using headphones instead of computer speakers. I'll send the link to all thru this mail and the doc' IRC. We use the following pad for the minutes: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hello The doodle poll shows 20:00 UTC as the best choice. That means 22:00 CET for inland Europeans. I will let you know 15 minutes before time the Google hangout link, on this lists and on the #libreoffice-doc channel on freenode.net We will use a TDF pad at http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you tomorrow! Olivier Em 21/07/2016 12:18, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello documentation community > > 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled > meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, > but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties > are not able to attend at 19:00. > > So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: > > http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep > > > 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in > the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from > TDF-internal brainstorming: > > + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? > + get more authors? > + Author's peer/community recognition > + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date > + Lowering author's entry barriers > > + How can we improve our documents visibility? > + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? > + improve downloads of our books? > + connect LO users to our docs and books? > + get more book translators, > + L10N contributions to documentation > > + Documentation meetings in Brno. > > Please don't miss these important discussions > > See you there! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Expanding help contend for issue #100568
Hello Lothar
Em 26/07/2016 11:03, Lothar Becker escreveu:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> so here I'm back again, sorry for delay, the last days I had a heavy
> workload
> with interop issues.
>
> First of all thanks for bringing in the issue to the meta bug.
You're welcome.
>
> I've searched and visited some issues of them but I didn't find a bug
> which seems to cover the same. So afterwards, I searched a little bit in
> the
> Indes you mentioned and I think I found the place, where the description
> should be
> integrated in, see
>
> http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/01/wiz_data_series.xhp#bm_id8641621
>
>
> It is not covered directly of the index, but with the link "chart
> wizzard - data ranges" you get there.
Yes, indeed.
>
> So, I'm sure, it is a piity so find out, which XHP file it is, but more
> road blockers are the question,
> where to search for the informations itself ("which form and numbers
> have to be filled in the range
> for fill colours and border colours).
vm173 is work in progress.
>
> So before adding something tothe XHP file there are two questions:
>
> a) Are there any developer documentations / specifications for the chart
> wizzard or in detail für
> the type of inputs for the second tab of it? As I'm not so far from
> development (not daily but
> sometimes) I think I will be able, to understand such documentations to
> sort out these informatiosn.
> Or a hint where to find the chart wizzard implementation to have a look
> at the source code.
As opposed to the old OpenOffice.org at SUN's times, I am not aware of
the doc's/spec's of any feature unique to LibreOffice. At best, some
senior developers write the help pages or blog posts, which is much
appreciated, but it is not the rule. Therefore, volunteers pick the
features and, with trial and error, sweat, devotion and abnegation,
write on the subject.
>
> b) What infrastructure is needed to help with help files?
There are 3 ways to edit help files. All need a copy of the helpconten2/
module git in the local machine.
1) using the HelpAuthoring extension. See
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent
2) an experimental on-line text editor in vm173
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OnlineHelpContent
3) plain text edition in your local copy of helpcontent2/
For 2) write me offline to get a login.
Kind regards
Olivier
>
>
> Am 20.07.2016 um 16:13 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
>> Hi Lothar
>>
>> Mucho better indeed!
>> I brought back the discussion to the bug page.
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Em 20/07/2016 01:49, Lothar Becker escreveu:
>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>
>>> wow, youare absolut right, thanks Olivier, it is
>>>
>>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100586
>>>
>>> I switched the last two numbers, so sorry for that, please
>>> excuse me for that, I will search for the help page and in the
>>> meta bug soon,
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Olivier, best
>>> Lothar
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 19.07.2016 um 23:47 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
>>>> Hi Lothar
>>>>
>>>> Can you double check if bug #100568 (LibreOffice Bugzilla) has anything
>>>> related to a dialog, colour and borders? A typo may have slipped in,
>>>> because 100568 is a pivot table & filter display issue, not chart and
>>>> data series.
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100568
>>>>
>>>> You can also try to find the help page in this site
>>>>
>>>> http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/main.xhp
>>>>
>>>> and let me know the troubling page.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Olivier
>>>>
>>>> Em 19/07/2016 12:37, Lothar Becker escreveu:
>>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>>>
>>>>> first of all thanks for your response, very appreciated ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, perhaps its a little bit complicated expressed from me,
>>>>> what I meant is, that in the help-text of the mentioned dialog
>>>>> there is no explanation, which semantic is needed with the
>>>>> entry fields for fill colour and border colour, which sort of values
>>>>> and which concrete integer numberhave to be put in this fields
>>>>> to get aspecific colour in the bar or forthe borders of the bar in a
>>>>> chart).
>>>>>
>>>>> I would expect in the help text for this dialog something like:
>>>
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to count downloads of user guides?
Hello Jean Em 25/07/2016 04:33, Jean Weber escreveu: > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:51 PM, K-J LibreOffice <k...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >> Hi Jean, >> Am 24.07.2016 um 10:19 schrieb Jean Weber: >>> >>> How can we count the number of downloads of user guide files >>> (individual chapters and books) from the wiki? Is there a plug-in for >>> the wiki that will do this? I think we need this information. >> >> >> Maybe Dennis (CC'ed him) can give an answer. Or you should ask someone from >> Infra-team. I don't think that many of them read this ml. >> > > Thanks! Olivier, I'll turn this over to you to pursue, if you think > it's a good idea. > --Jean > It is a significant information to help us make the documentation products a true asset for LO and users. I'll handle it. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to count downloads of user guides?
Hi Milos Thanks for the data. This sample shows us that the software is download by many thousands but the books are by hundreds. Let's fix this. Olivier Em 25/07/2016 08:12, Milos Sramek escreveu: > Hi, > > fyi: this is the download statistics of the Slovak translation > April-July 2016. Only full downloads were counted (apache log status 200). > One can see that the full book + Chapters 4, 5 and 6 are preferred, in pdf > > Milos > countcount pdf+odtFull download March – July 2016 > 1277/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/ZacinameSLibreOffice42.odt > 200 - the full book > 276277/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/ZacinameSLibreOffice42.pdf > 200 - the full book > 59207/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4204-ZacinameWriter.odt200 > 148207/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4204-ZacinameWriter.pdf200 > 46165/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4205-ZacinameCalc.odt200 > 119165/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4205-ZacinameCalc.pdf200 > 35114 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4202-NastavenieLibreOffice.odt200 > 79114 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4202-NastavenieLibreOffice.pdf200 > 15108/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4206-ZacinameImpress.odt200 > 93108/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4206-ZacinameImpress.pdf200 > 23107/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4200-Uvod.odt200 > 84107/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4200-Uvod.pdf200 > 2099 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4201-PredstavenieLibreOffice.odt200 > 7999 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4201-PredstavenieLibreOffice.pdf200 > 2596/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4208-ZacinameBase.odt200 > 7196/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4208-ZacinameBase.pdf200 > 2087/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4213-ZacinameMakra.odt200 > 6787/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4213-ZacinameMakra.pdf200 > 2084/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4207-ZacinameDraw.odt200 > 6484/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4207-ZacinameDraw.pdf200 > 2078/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4203-StylyASablony.odt200 > 5878/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4203-StylyASablony.pdf200 > 1665 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4214-PrisposobenieLibreOffice.odt200 > 4965 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4214-PrisposobenieLibreOffice.pdf200 > 2063 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4216-OtvorenySoftverStandardy.odt200 > 4363 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4216-OtvorenySoftverStandardy.pdf200 > 1662/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4212-VytvarameWebStranky.odt200 > 4662/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4212-VytvarameWebStranky.pdf200 > 1559/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4209-ZacinameMath.odt200 > 4459/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4209-ZacinameMath.pdf200 > 1659/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4215-KlavesoveSkratky.odt200 > 4359/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4215-KlavesoveSkratky.pdf200 > 1058/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4210-TlacExportEmail.odt200 > 4858/files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4210-TlacExportEmail.pdf200 > 1757 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4211-GrafikaGaleriaPismomalba.odt200 > 4057 > /files/ZacinameLibreOffice/GS4211-GrafikaGaleriaPismomalba.pdf200 > > > On 2016-07-25 11:56, Olivier Hallot wrote: >> Hello Jean >> >> Em 25/07/2016 04:33, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:51 PM, K-J LibreOffice <k...@libreoffice.org> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi Jean, >>>> Am 24.07.2016 um 10:19 schrieb Jean Weber: >>>>> How can we count the number of downloads of user guide files >>>>> (individual chapters and books) from the wiki? Is there a plug-in for >>>>> the wiki that will do this? I think we need this information. >>>> >>>> Maybe Dennis (CC'ed him) can give an answer. Or you should ask someone from >>>> Infra-team. I don't think that many of them read this ml. >>>> >>> Thanks! Olivier, I'll turn this over to you to pursue, if you think >>> it's a good idea. >>> --Jean >>> >> It is a significant information to help us make the documentation >> products a true asset for LO and users. I'll handle it. >> >> Regards > > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: Re: Documenting how to develop with & for LibreOffice - a fresh approach?
(hit the wrong reply button) Mensagem encaminhada Assunto: Re: Documenting how to develop with & for LibreOffice - a fresh approach? Data: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:59:35 -0300 De: Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> Para: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org Hello Bjoern, Thorsten, All Em 23/07/2016 22:48, Bjoern Michaelsen escreveu: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 01:50:20AM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: >> It seems interesting in a number of aspects; perhaps here's a way to >> raise the profile & quality of our own programmability documentation >> (by going there, or by cherry-picking good ideas)? > > Hmm, I dont see much difference here between "stack exchange" and "stack > exchange documentation". What exactly makes the difference there? Because I > dont seem much (yet?). I saw it as a way to create a TOC that links to entries that contains carefully cratfted "questions" with precise and rich answers, using the S.O. engine. > > Also what is the difference between SE and ask.libreoffice.org from a > feature perspective? For example, askubuntu.com is running on the SE stack, > not > on askbot -- but TBH I dont see much difference featurewise. I assume its > mostly done for visibility. I'm no expert but I see 2 softwares for the same purpose: create a knowledge base feeded by the community of users, with the expectation that answers to any question in the universe will show up filtering massive Q's and A's. Reality shows not so easy. Stack Overflow and Askbot are not a panacea but the bottom line is very positive anyway. I moderate brazilian askbot and it works. But the quality of either questions and answers are rarely acceptable as a reference on the topic. People never search for topic before asking, thus lots of repetition. People also don't use the voting system or even bother do downvote bad answers (can spark emotions if you do). Maybe this is community-related, but it is a fact. Therefore, as I said above, carefull questions and rich & precise answers equals workload anyway. > > In general, I _love_ the idea to move our documentation focus to dynamic > content > on a platform that is easy to contribute to -- be that SE or askbot. That is > _way_ more relevant and a much better fit to our development model than aiming > for dead tree editions of documentation. and wiki too. But like software development, we accept "patches" on our doc only after peer review. Believe me, there is no better rich editor than Writer and with a good DMS, unbeatable. > > The thing that askbot/SE misses vs. classical documentation is that a > structure > beyond one topic and a way to focus and highlight a set of well-maintained > content. A possible approach to this would be to have an index of highly > relevant and well maintained content (this index could be in e.g. in the TDF > wiki linking to various askbot/SE topics). The problem with askbot/SE/wikis is > not the so much providing good content, it is making this content discoverable > (dead tree documentation is even worse at this, though) and not sink in > outdated and irrelevant content. right, but mixing different tools is a maintenance nightmare. Nevertheless, discoverability of the documentation/information is one of my concerns at them moment. > > So -- a draft proposal: Lets have an index of highly relevance topics > somewhere > (e.g. on the Wiki) and link the content by topic/chapter to well maintained > and > edited pages on askbot/SE whatever. It can even be the Local Help, one F1 strike far. But see below. > > @Olivier: Unless there are better proposal on how to work on this, could take > up this rough idea and with the help of others grind a diamond out of it? > Thorsten is right, we should any inspiration we can from SE. But even more > importantly we should focus on getting dynamic content up in shape, it is > _way_ > more important than printable, static dead documentation. Today we have this documentation format scenario: - Localhelp, that contains a reference and a user guide, localized with pootle, downloadable. Online version at help.libreoffice.org, XML files. - LO Guides Books, produced in odt format, localizable with CAT by the communities. Rich content, ease of edition. - Askbot: on-line, user driven knowledge base, not localized, per language. - TDF wiki: Some communities produce Q's and localized doc here. - external, amateur blogs on LO topics, hints, tips (I'd like to PLANETIZE this) - other, found by googling around. My take is that there is no one-size-fits-all, very hard not to duplicate workload. Books/chapters/sections are important for the training/migration industry, and is the fastest way to port the documentation to other languages. With a DMS (Document Management Sys
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting in the next minutes
Hello Our team meeting will be with Google Hangout whose link is https://hangouts.google.com/call/cpmf5ftoubdktbw7rataljc6due Our minutes will be written in the following pad: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you all there -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Fwd: Re: Documenting how to develop with & for LibreOffice - a fresh approach?
Hello Thorsten Em 28/07/2016 22:33, Thorsten Behrens escreveu: > Olivier Hallot wrote: >> Finally, on a totally different view, and addressing Thorsten >> concern on software development documentation, opening a specific >> askbot instance for developers looks very interesting to turn >> sterile doxygen documentation into something readable for the rookie >> developer. >> > That sounds like a nice idea indeed. And yeah, I was mostly focusing > on (extension) developers as an audience. > > Cheers, > > -- Thorsten > I opened ticket #2006 in redmine for this purpose. https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2006 Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Updating Getting Started to 5.2: Low hanging fruits
Hello Doc'Team! Since Jean Weber published all chapters of Getting Started 5.1, we are now ready to start updating the chapters for release 5.2 There are some really easy tasks to take: *Very easy* (likely no changes between 5.1 and 5.2, but worth reading anyway): Preface Appendix A Appendix B Macros Math *A bit more care when checking:* Introducing LibreOffice Styles and Templates Creating web pages Print, Export, Email Graphics Gallery, Fontwork *In-depth look on new features:* Writer Calc Impress Draw Base Customizing LO The list of new features are in (1). Not every new feature need to be mentioned in a introductory text like Getting Started. For example, the new Calc functions FORECAST.* is by far too specific, but the new wildcard expressions worth very much to be quoted, because it solves an old interop issue with Excel. We delagate to your judgement what worth be quoted/updated or not, and this list is the right place to discuss. On updating the chapters, always activate the Track changes feature of writer (IMPERATIVE). The files are available in ODFAuthor website(2). Please access the 5.1 Published folder to grab your file to update. And always tell us here on what chapter you are reviewing. Happy documenting! (1) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.2 (2) http://www.odfauthors.org -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hi, Just a reminder to mark your best time for the next wednesday Documentation Team meeting. Double check your time zone in the page! Regards Olivier Em 21/07/2016 12:18, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello documentation community > > 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled > meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, > but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties > are not able to attend at 19:00. > > So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: > > http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep > > > 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in > the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from > TDF-internal brainstorming: > > + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? > + get more authors? > + Author's peer/community recognition > + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date > + Lowering author's entry barriers > > + How can we improve our documents visibility? > + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? > + improve downloads of our books? > + connect LO users to our docs and books? > + get more book translators, > + L10N contributions to documentation > > + Documentation meetings in Brno. > > Please don't miss these important discussions > > See you there! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of Documentation Team Meeting, July 27th 2016, 20:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting, July 27th 2016, 20:00 UTC. Hangout link: https://hangouts.google.com/call/cpmf5ftoubdktbw7rataljc6due Present: Olivier, Jean , Leo, Marco Pinto, Chrystina + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? Jean: I've never found a good answer. + no need to do the whole chapter + need to indicate up to where it was updated + people don't notice the things to add. + Most people that want to help don't know the software +Know more than the average Leo: Chapters too big to work with +less pages Jean: May be we have to translate from other lang to English + get more authors? + Author's peer/community recognition Leo: Contributor of the month + like in Pootle + Interview with Authors Olivier: Page with all photos of the authors + Certificate? + List of Authors Leo: Hall of fame + Medals, once the doc is published. + Combine with marketing + spread the word, + people behind the books, like devs + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date Leo: On Getting Started (GS) what to be changed? Someone to flag what to change and add Jean: who is going to do it? Olivier: not every new feature will do to GS. Leo: On next version (6) rethink on what to write about, rework the text + start the new version right after the feature is implemented Jean: People want to see the sw before writing about. + Lowering author's entry barriers Leo: workload: split the chapters or split the tasks: text, screen capture, revisions. + How can we improve our documents visibility? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? + improve downloads of our books? + connect LO users to our docs and books? Olivier: Have links from the help menu to our documentation https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96015 LibreOffice Help menu: LibreOffice Help What is this? --- Online Help ( https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page ) Download Offline Help ( likely only enabled if offline help isnt installed, but wont be useful for locales that dont have localized help. e.g. arabic ) User Guides ( http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ ) --- Questions & Answers ( askbot.libreoffice.org ) Submit Feedback ( BSA or bugzilla or http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/ ) Community Support ( http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ ) Professional Support ( http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/ ) --- Check for updates License information Donate to LibreOffice --- About LibreOffice + get more book translators, + L10N contributions to documentation + Documentation meetings in Brno. + Set a meeting room for the documentation team + update brainstorming on documentation issues + Set targets for documentation in next 6 mo or 1 year. + Other topics -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS5.1 full book files now on wiki
Hi All I have updated the page on documentation in the main website with the latest publication. https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ Regards Olivier Em 30/07/2016 04:05, Jean Weber escreveu: > ODT and PDF of compiled GS5.1 book are on the wiki. > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > > I should get the printed version published on Lulu in the next few > days. Will let you know when that's done. > > --Jean > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] BAF, BAILS, and friends
Hello I have a patch awaiting approval on this subject for the Localhelp https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27857/ kind regards Olivier Em 11/08/2016 13:12, Sylvia Sánchez escreveu: > Hi! > > I think everything related to security should go in a single document, > it would simplify to search and learn about it. > My thought. > > > > Cheers, > Sylvia > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation team meeting today
Hi I won't be abe to attend the documentation meeting today at 19:00 CET. kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide update?
Hello Jean Em 21/07/2016 08:20, Jean Weber escreveu: > Olivier, > > I know you are prioritising the Getting Started Guide, but I'm > considering working on updating the Writer Guide to 5.2, but I'll need > someone else to check (review) my work, not just proofread it (though > that will be needed too, and I'm sure Hazel will do that step). > > What do you think? > > --Jean > I'll be glad to review your updates. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS 5.1 chapter 7: Draw
Hello Jean, Once you or Hazel publish chapters 6 and 7, do you want me to assemble the book? Please let me know. Kind regards Olivier Em 20/07/2016 21:36, Jean Weber escreveu: > On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Hazel Russman > <hazeldeb...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> I have downloaded this from the drafts folder and will probably get to work >> on it tomorrow. >> >> Hazel >> > > Hi Hazel, hope all is well with you. How is this going? I'm back from > my travels and ready to finalise Chapters 6 & 7 and publish them. > --Jean > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS 5.1 chapter 7: Draw
Hello Jean Perfect. Milos cleanup is indeed important. I'll start reviewing 5.2 chapters kind regards Olivier Em 21/07/2016 07:58, Jean Weber escreveu: > I have reviewed, edited, and published Ch7 Getting Started with Draw. > After Hazel does Ch6 (Impress), I'll review and publish that. > > Olivier, I'm happy to assemble the full book, but I think I should > probably wait until Milos has "cleaned" the chapter files. > > --Jean > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Olivier Hallot > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >> Hello Jean, >> >> Once you or Hazel publish chapters 6 and 7, do you want me to assemble >> the book? Please let me know. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Olivier >> >> Em 20/07/2016 21:36, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Hazel Russman >>> <hazeldeb...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>> I have downloaded this from the drafts folder and will probably get to >>>> work on it tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Hazel >>>> >>> >>> Hi Hazel, hope all is well with you. How is this going? I'm back from >>> my travels and ready to finalise Chapters 6 & 7 and publish them. >>> --Jean >>> >> >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 >> http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hello documentation community 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties are not able to attend at 19:00. So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from TDF-internal brainstorming: + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? + get more authors? + Author's peer/community recognition + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date + Lowering author's entry barriers + How can we improve our documents visibility? + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? + improve downloads of our books? + connect LO users to our docs and books? + get more book translators, + L10N contributions to documentation + Documentation meetings in Brno. Please don't miss these important discussions See you there! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS 5.1 Chapter 6 (Impress) uploaded to draft folder for revision
Hi Milos Em 18/07/2016 09:22, Milos Sramek escreveu: > Hi all, > > some time ago I've cleaned up files for GS 4.2 and I would like to do > the same also for 5.1. The modifications are mostly oriented towards > translation - in order to make it possible (often messy) direct > formatting should be removed by a clean up script. In order to not to > spoil formatting, prior to that I want to check and correct all formatting: > - convert direct formatting to an appropriate style if necessary (e.g. > bold to LOMenuPath) > - convert styles reset by direct formatting to default text to the > default style Thanks indeed for that. I learned the hard way while translating with OmegaT. > > Except for that I want to check index entries. Some on them are bound > directly to text - in languages with inflection this results in > inflected entries in the index, which is bad. Yes. Although I managed to convert references from e.g. [Figure n] to Figure [n] I may have let some of them pass. > > I have in fact already done this for most of the files - the rest will > take me a few days. I will also check for any text changes, to make sure > no changes were introduced. Thak you very much indeed. Much appreciated. > > Olievier, pls, wait a few day with the update to 5.2 > yes, of course. Let me know when you're done. Kind Regards, Olivier > best Milos > > > > > > On 2016-07-18 02:42, Olivier Hallot wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I've added information on Impess remote at the end. >> >> Once Impress and Draw chapter are revised and published, the Getting >> Started 5.1 Book is ready for final assembly. >> >> I will now take the published chapters for LO 5.1 and update for LO 5.2. >> >> Kind regards > > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Expanding help contend for issue #100568
Hi Lothar Sorry for the late response. I'm having trouble associating bug#100568 into a help content related issue. Have I missed something? But if you are available to address help content issues, we collected them in this meta-bug: https://goo.gl/fwL7kO Let me know if one of these topics pleases you and I'll help you to get it done. Kind Regards Olivier Em 01/07/2016 05:33, Lothar Becker escreveu: > > Hi, > > in follow up to issue #100568 in the bugtracker I volunteer to help with > the help content for that. > > Could someone give me a hint, how and where I get the needed information > (out of the source?) and what to do (process, infrastructure), to extend > the help > contend for this topic. > > And if this is done and infrastructure set up for that, there ceratinly > will be other > topics where I will help from time to time > > Thanks a lot, cu in Brno > Lothar > > > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS 5.1 Chapter 6 (Impress) uploaded to draft folder for revision
Hi all I've added information on Impess remote at the end. Once Impress and Draw chapter are revised and published, the Getting Started 5.1 Book is ready for final assembly. I will now take the published chapters for LO 5.1 and update for LO 5.2. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Expanding help contend for issue #100568
Hi Lothar Can you double check if bug #100568 (LibreOffice Bugzilla) has anything related to a dialog, colour and borders? A typo may have slipped in, because 100568 is a pivot table & filter display issue, not chart and data series. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100568 You can also try to find the help page in this site http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/main.xhp and let me know the troubling page. Kind regards Olivier Em 19/07/2016 12:37, Lothar Becker escreveu: > Hi Olivier, > > first of all thanks for your response, very appreciated ;-) > > Well, perhaps its a little bit complicated expressed from me, > what I meant is, that in the help-text of the mentioned dialog > there is no explanation, which semantic is needed with the > entry fields for fill colour and border colour, which sort of values > and which concrete integer numberhave to be put in this fields > to get aspecific colour in the bar or forthe borders of the bar in a > chart). > > I would expect in the help text for this dialog something like: > the range in the entry fields für border colour and fill colour must be > filled with the name of the element in the data series > and an integer out of 1 to 999, where 1 stands for black and 999 > stands for white, or somethinglike this. > > So, let me have a look inthe meta-bug, if it is covered in the mentioned > issues there, > thanI will come back again with the search result.This will last a few > days because I'm in > heavy workload with a urgent LibO interop issue from a customer. > > Thanks again, Olivier, I will be back ;-) > Lothar > > > Am 18.07.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Olivier Hallot: >> Hi Lothar >> >> Sorry for the late response. >> >> I'm having trouble associating bug#100568 into a help content related >> issue. Have I missed something? >> >> But if you are available to address help content issues, we collected >> them in this meta-bug: >> >> https://goo.gl/fwL7kO >> >> Let me know if one of these topics pleases you and I'll help you to get >> it done. >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Olivier >> >> >> Em 01/07/2016 05:33, Lothar Becker escreveu: >>> Hi, >>> >>> in follow up to issue #100568 in the bugtracker I volunteer to help with >>> the help content for that. >>> >>> Could someone give me a hint, how and where I get the needed information >>> (out of the source?) and what to do (process, infrastructure), to extend >>> the help >>> contend for this topic. >>> >>> And if this is done and infrastructure set up for that, there ceratinly >>> will be other >>> topics where I will help from time to time >>> >>> Thanks a lot, cu in Brno >>> Lothar >>> >>> >>> > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Expanding help contend for issue #100568
Hi Lothar Mucho better indeed! I brought back the discussion to the bug page. Kind regards Olivier Em 20/07/2016 01:49, Lothar Becker escreveu: > Hi Olivier, > > wow, youare absolut right, thanks Olivier, it is > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100586 > > I switched the last two numbers, so sorry for that, please > excuse me for that, I will search for the help page and in the > meta bug soon, > > Thanks again, Olivier, best > Lothar > > > Am 19.07.2016 um 23:47 schrieb Olivier Hallot: >> Hi Lothar >> >> Can you double check if bug #100568 (LibreOffice Bugzilla) has anything >> related to a dialog, colour and borders? A typo may have slipped in, >> because 100568 is a pivot table & filter display issue, not chart and >> data series. >> >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100568 >> >> You can also try to find the help page in this site >> >> http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/main.xhp >> >> and let me know the troubling page. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Olivier >> >> Em 19/07/2016 12:37, Lothar Becker escreveu: >>> Hi Olivier, >>> >>> first of all thanks for your response, very appreciated ;-) >>> >>> Well, perhaps its a little bit complicated expressed from me, >>> what I meant is, that in the help-text of the mentioned dialog >>> there is no explanation, which semantic is needed with the >>> entry fields for fill colour and border colour, which sort of values >>> and which concrete integer numberhave to be put in this fields >>> to get aspecific colour in the bar or forthe borders of the bar in a >>> chart). >>> >>> I would expect in the help text for this dialog something like: >>> the range in the entry fields für border colour and fill colour must be >>> filled with the name of the element in the data series >>> and an integer out of 1 to 999, where 1 stands for black and 999 >>> stands for white, or somethinglike this. >>> >>> So, let me have a look inthe meta-bug, if it is covered in the mentioned >>> issues there, >>> thanI will come back again with the search result.This will last a few >>> days because I'm in >>> heavy workload with a urgent LibO interop issue from a customer. >>> >>> Thanks again, Olivier, I will be back ;-) >>> Lothar >>> >>> >>> Am 18.07.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Olivier Hallot: >>>> Hi Lothar >>>> >>>> Sorry for the late response. >>>> >>>> I'm having trouble associating bug#100568 into a help content related >>>> issue. Have I missed something? >>>> >>>> But if you are available to address help content issues, we collected >>>> them in this meta-bug: >>>> >>>> https://goo.gl/fwL7kO >>>> >>>> Let me know if one of these topics pleases you and I'll help you to get >>>> it done. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> >>>> Olivier >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 01/07/2016 05:33, Lothar Becker escreveu: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> in follow up to issue #100568 in the bugtracker I volunteer to help >>>>> with >>>>> the help content for that. >>>>> >>>>> Could someone give me a hint, how and where I get the needed >>>>> information >>>>> (out of the source?) and what to do (process, infrastructure), to >>>>> extend >>>>> the help >>>>> contend for this topic. >>>>> >>>>> And if this is done and infrastructure set up for that, there >>>>> ceratinly >>>>> will be other >>>>> topics where I will help from time to time >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot, cu in Brno >>>>> Lothar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Reorganising the Writer Guide: A Proposal
Hello Jean Sorry for being late, Olympics are disturbing the routine... Em 30/07/2016 01:11, Jean Weber escreveu: > For several years, I've been thinking about making some organisational > changes to the Writer Guide, to better serve users. > > First, I intend to move Chapter 10 (Templates) to be Chapter 8, just > after the two chapters on styles. The current Chapter 8 (Images) and > Chapter 9 (Tables) will become Chapters 9 and 10, respectively. OK > > Second, I think that at 475 pages and growing, the Writer Guide is too > long and intimidating. I propose to split it into two parts (volumes), > which I'm calling "Essentials" (Chapter 1 through the new Chapter 9) > and "Extras" (Chapters 10 through 16 and the current Appendix A). Each > part would be approximately 250-290 pages. On a personal choice, I think "Advanced techniques" is better than "Extras". > > Third, I am considering splitting the somewhat long Chapter 3 (Working > with Text) and Chapter 4 (Formatting Pages) into two chapters each, > similar to the two chapters on styles. One chapter in each would be > called "Basics" and the second "Advanced" (or similar terms). OK > > Fourth, I am considering moving the current Chapter 2 (Setting Up > Writer) to be an Appendix of Volume 1. Yes. > > --Jean > Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] hangout links for documentation
HI Our hangout will take place at the following link https://hangouts.google.com/call/vxyaywbxavenlimh7d7e3f4ngye our pad for the minutes is http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you there! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Minutes of the Documentation hangout of June 29th, 2016
June 29th Documentation team call Present: Simon Quigley, Olivier, Bubli Welcome Simon! Documentation Update: Bubli: Introducing the dialogs screenshot feature for documentation. + CPP unit test to open every LO dialog + so far opening 20-30 dialogs in Impress and Calc each + Dialogs screeshots need to be in HC package, not core + On LO update, update also screenshots + every dialog will be able to self-screenshot + Screenshots will be localized + Embedding the screenshots into .xhp files will be feature of the Help Authoring Extension * Help content modernization + Not addressed in the call * Help content update + Simon to write some help pages (Olivier will indicate how to) * Books in ODF Authors +Delivered chapter on Base for revision (Olivier) + Hazel Russman proofreaded all chapters updated. + Next to update: Impress, Draw Team feedback * How to improve participation Admnistrative: * Next meeting: 13 July at 19:00 CET -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Team Meeting for next Wednesday August 17th at 20:00 UTC
Hello Documentation team I'll start a call for our documentation team meeting this Wednesday august 17th at 20:00 UTC (22:00 CET) The agenda is + Documentation Status quo; + Release 5.2 + Writer guide 5.x + Brno Documentation face-to-face team meeting and brainstorming session See you there! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Hangout for the Documentation team
Hangout link for the Documentation team https://hangouts.google.com/call/h4wzvykq3ffixcojrnrvqo334ie Pad for the minutes http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you there -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Guides download website (II)
Hello (and sorry for cross-posting, the subject does matter the 2 lists) As expected, the number of visits to the documentation website after the release of LibreOffice 5.3 has surged about 10x. It has already shed light on our guides and I am sharing with you. Looking at the statistics by piwik, here are some information (stats collected February 1 and 2) 1) Guides download Download URL Unique Downloads Downloads documentation.libreoffice.org 196 199 /assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/CG4.1/CG41-CalcGuideLO.pdf <http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/CG4.1/CG41-CalcGuideLO.pdf> 18 18 /assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/GS5.1/GS51-GettingStartedLO.pdf <http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/GS5.1/GS51-GettingStartedLO.pdf> 15 15 /assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BH4.0/PDF/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf <http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BH4.0/PDF/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf> 12 12 /assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/WG4.2/WG42-WriterGuideLO.pdf <http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/WG4.2/WG42-WriterGuideLO.pdf> 12 13 /assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/MG4.x/PDF/MG44-MathGuide.pdf <http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/MG4.x/PDF/MG44-MathGuide.pdf> 9 9 /assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/WG4.2/WG42-WriterGuideLO.odt <http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/WG4.2/WG42-WriterGuideLO.odt> 8 8 2) Top languages visiting the documentation website Entrances Bounces Bounce Rate en 224 67 30% de 75 21 28% es 22 5 23% ru 22 15 68% it 18 8 44% pt-br 16 4 25% fr 15 10 67% ja 15 11 73% pl 13 5 38% nl 12 10 83% en-GB 10 8 80% da 6 5 83% 3) Pages displayed Page Name Pageviews Unique Pageviews Bounce Rate Avg. time on page Exit rate Avg. generation time English documentation | LibreOffice Documentation - Your documentation for LibreOffice 443 234 26% 00:00:2742% 0.4s Page not found | LibreOffice Documentation - Your documentation for LibreOffice 107 96 70% 00:00:2885% 0.32s Dokumentation in deutscher Sprache | LibreOffice Documentation - Your documentation for LibreOffice 139 86 28% 00:01:2993% 0.26s Writer Guides | LibreOffice Documentation - Your documentation for LibreOffice 80 71 100%00:01:1455% 0.39s Calc Guides | LibreOffice Documentation - Your documentation for LibreOffice 61 53 75% 00:02:1558% 0.42s Getting Started Guide | LibreOffice Documentation - Your documentation for LibreOffice 63 52 33% 00:01:3048% 0.33s Notes: People of ru/, ja/, pl/, nl/, da/ and other languages hit a "Page not found" at entry. People from it/ and es/ hit an empty page (page is work in progress) People from fr/ and de/ are sent to TDF wiki. Conclusion (at this point) 1) users may be just exploring new resources and downloading files they never thought it exist, but also they got valuable information, as the Calc guide download let us think. LibreOffice user base is eager to get instruments to better perform their duties, the Guides are one of these instruments. 2) "Page not found" should be addressed, I am available to assist and even execute page contents for the NL communities, when asked. 3) NL communities and the documentation team plays an important role as well as they has a challenge for the success of LibreOffice in every use case (home/office/corporate). 4) Almost all entries are "direct entries", which means they came from the Help menu of LibreOffice 5.3. Looking upside-down, LO is an "app" for accessing our guides... :-) Other interpretations on the data above are possible, more data is available from TDF infra (piwik), it does not close the subject at all and is brought here for discussion. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributing to LibreOffice documentation
Welcome Matthew Your skills in LibreOffice are indeed important to our community and you will find a lot to do. We have a set of guides that need to be updated. These guides are edited in Writer with our best practices (e.g. styles, master documents, etc...) We can start in 2 directions one, is to update our introductory text "Getting Started" from version 5.2 (almost done) to version 5.3 (easy to medium difficulty). The second is to take one of our module guide (e.g. spreadsheet book) and update to version 5.3, requiring quite deep knowledge in the module software (medium to hard difficulty). To get the guides and have a glimpse on how they actually look like please get any of them in the documentation website at http://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/ and let me know your prefered project. Kind regards Olivier Em 06/02/2017 23:50, Matthew An escreveu: > Hello there, > > My name is Matthew An and I am a recent graduate of the Rhetoric and > Professional Writing program at the University of Waterloo. I was hoping to > contribute to the LibreOffice documentation as a Writer or Reviewer. I have > previous experience at IBM as a technical writer as well as a small startup > company in New Jersey. At the moment, I am in the process of entering > graduate school in the fall, so I thought I could use my free time to hone > my tech writing skills. > > Please let me know if you would like a copy of my resume. I hope that I can > give back to the software that I developed most of my writing skills with! > > Thanks for your time, > > Matthew > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Guides download website (II) reformatted
Hello (and sorry for cross-posting, the subject does matter the 2 lists) As expected, the number of visits to the documentation website after the release of LibreOffice 5.3 has surged about 10x. It has already shed light on our guides and I am sharing with you. Looking at the statistics by piwik, here are some information (stats collected February 1 and 2) 1) Guides download Download URL Unique DownloadsDownloads -- documentation.libreoffice.org 196 199 -- /en/CG4.1/CG41-CalcGuideLO.pdf 18 18 /en/GS5.1/GS51-GettingStartedLO.pdf 15 15 /en/BH4.0/PDF/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf 12 12 /en/WG4.2/WG42-WriterGuideLO.pdf12 13 /en/MG4.x/PDF/MG44-MathGuide.pdf 9 9 /en/WG4.2/WG42-WriterGuideLO.odt 8 8 2) Top languages visiting the documentation website Entrances Bounces Bounce Rate -- en 224 67 30% de 75 21 28% es 22 5 23% ru 22 15 68% it 18 8 44% pt-br 16 4 25% fr 15 10 67% ja 15 11 73% pl 13 5 38% nl 12 10 83% en-GB 10 8 80% da 6 5 83% 3) Pages displayed Page Name Pageviews Unique Pageviews Bounce - English documentation 571 315 25% Page not found 189 168 67% Dokumentation in deutscher Sprache 192 123 36% Writer Guides 102 94 75% Calc Guides 91 82 73% Getting Started Guide74 63 50% Notes: People of ru/, ja/, pl/, nl/, da/ and other languages hit a "Page not found" at entry. People from it/ and es/ hit an empty page (page is work in progress) People from fr/ and de/ are sent to TDF wiki. Conclusion (at this point) 1) users may be just exploring new resources and downloading files they never thought it exist, but also they got valuable information, as the Calc guide download let us think. LibreOffice user base is eager to get instruments to better perform their duties, the Guides are one of these instruments. 2) "Page not found" should be addressed, I am available to assist and even execute page contents for the NL communities, when asked. 3) NL communities and the documentation team plays an important role as well as they has a challenge for the success of LibreOffice in every use case (home/office/corporate). 4) Almost all entries are "direct entries", which means they came from the Help menu of LibreOffice 5.3. Looking upside-down, LO is an "app" for accessing our guides... :-) Other interpretations on the data above are possible, more data is available from TDF infra (piwik), it does not close the subject at all and is brought here for discussion. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS5.2 Ch6 Getting Started with Impress draft
Hi I have uploaded a revision of GS5.2 Ch6 Getting Started with Impress. Almost no change except I added a page on Impress Photo Album. regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS5.2 Ch 7 Draw in draft folder
Hi all I have updated the contents of GS 5.2 Ch7 Draw. I added some basic words on Dimension lines. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Calc and also in other chapters in the Getting Started Guide
Hello Leo In general I agree. I think it is a bit late for 5.1 GS but there is time to get it in 5.2 GS. Regards Em 24/01/2017 03:42, Leo Moons escreveu: > Hello, > > While translating chapter 5 we, the Dutch speaking community, found > something odd: a reference is regularly made to the Calc Guide for > more info and/or explanations. This reference is often made at the > beginning or somewhere in the middle of a paragraph and we believe it > should be better mentioned at the end of the paragraph as the reader > is invited to read the Calc Guide and not continue reading the Getting > Started Guide. > > Would you agree? If so, I do not think there is a need to change all > the chapters of the GSG 5.1, but it would be good to have these > changes incorporated as from GSG 5.2. > > Best regards > > Leo Moons > LibreOffice/nl > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS5.2 Ch10 Print, Export and e-mail
Hi I have uploaded an update of Ch10 Print, Export, E-Mail. I added some lines on multiple signatures, taken from Mikios Vajna blogs, with his authorization. Regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [] Unit #29917143 (ja)
Hi. Right. I opened a bug for the issue: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105623 regards Olivier Em 30/01/2017 11:35, Sophie escreveu: > another one > > > Message transféré > Sujet : [] Unit #29917143 (ja) > Date : Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:46:00 - > De : baffclan <hostmas...@documentfoundation.org> > Répondre à : baffclan <baffc...@yahoo.co.jp> > Pour : hostmas...@documentfoundation.org > > Username: anonymous user > Current URL: IP address: User-Agent: > Unit: > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ja/libo_ui/translate/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po#unit=29917143 > > Source: Close Master View > > Current translation: マスター表示を閉じる > > Your question or comment: > "Master view" and "master slide" are mixed and used. > See #117732822 (Close Master Slide) > > In Japanese: > 「master view」と「master slide」が混在して使用されます。 > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS5.2 Ch 11 Graphics, Gallery, Fontwork in draft folder
Hi I have uploaded GS5.2 Ch 11 for review. I added some lines on Image Export and Image compression that must be reviewed. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Guides download website
Hello We have a new website designed to make easy for the user to find our LibreOffice Guides. I have placed all guides in English in this website as well as translated guides from some other communities like pt-BR. http://documentation.libreoffice.org To help the NL communities I have set a wiki page explaining a bit more about the website. If you want to open a page for your locale, please let me know, I can assist in setting the right page and guide file tree. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides download website
Hi The wiki page is https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Guides_Website Regards Em 26/01/2017 19:54, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello > > We have a new website designed to make easy for the user to find our > LibreOffice Guides. I have placed all guides in English in this website > as well as translated guides from some other communities like pt-BR. > > http://documentation.libreoffice.org > > To help the NL communities I have set a wiki page explaining a bit more > about the website. > > If you want to open a page for your locale, please let me know, I can > assist in setting the right page and guide file tree. > > Kind regards > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides download website
Hi K-J Yes. I need to know the exact locale of the UI. In your case what locales you want to be directed to the German page? Kind regards Olivier Em 29/01/2017 05:14, K-J LibreOffice escreveu: > Hi Olivier, Hi > Am 26.01.2017 um 22:54 schrieb Olivier Hallot: >> We have a new website designed to make easy for the user to find our >> LibreOffice Guides. > > It seems there is a bug in LibO 5.3.0.3 X64 (and .2) German: > When I'm clicking on "Benutzerhandbücher..." I don't get the German > version but only the Englisch web page. > > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Published chapter of GS5.2
Hello Martin Because I wanted to have a unique source for books and web pages (XHTML), I took Jean's 5.2 chapters (were they cleaned by the script? I guess yes) and I started exporting to XHTML. That is, I took what Jean uploaded as final. I guarantee no direct formatting (DF) was introduced by me. Rather, an intense work on the style tuning was necessary. On exporting to XHTML, I found several issues hidden in ODT or PDF that I managed to fix or change with another solution. All fixes are in revised ODT files. None of the fixes for the issues found changed the visual result of the ODT source and the PDF export. Kind regards Olivier Em 23/02/2017 17:28, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu: > Hi, Olivier, > what Jean usually does with published chapters - she sends them through > a script that cleans of unnecessary tags so that translation is easier. > It woul be good to follow this also with your finished chapters and the > book. > > Thanks, m. > > 2017-02-23 13:47 GMT+01:00 Olivier Hallot > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>>: > > Hello Jean > > I uploaded the files to ODF Authors > > You'll see > * The template (OTT) > * The chapters (ODT) > * The compiled book in ODT and PDF > > The HTML export of the chapters can be visualized in the following > (unannounced) page: > > https://goo.gl/xUUG9V > > Regards > > Olivier > > > Em 22/02/2017 20:42, Jean Weber escreveu: > > I made a new folder: > > > > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-5-2-revised/ > > <http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-5-2-revised/> > > > > The revised files also need to go on the wiki to replace the ones I > > put there. I can do that, if you wish. > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications> > > > > --Jean > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Olivier Hallot > > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org > <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>> wrote: > >> Hello Jean > >> > >> It took a bit more time than I expected but I finally got it. > >> > >> I reviewed each individual chapter WRT styles and direct formatting > >> (DF). Got some surprises to see DF messing paragraphs, lists and > >> images styles that shifted contents out of position here and there. > >> > >> I applied table styles to all text tables. > >> > >> I fixed some image formats and residual DFs on it, that insisted to > >> vanish when compiling the book. > >> > >> I updated the master style with some tweaks I had to do for the > >> chapters. All commented. > >> > >> Where do I upload all these files? Note that it has another round of > >> revisions (formatting) after your published chapters. > >> > >> Thank you > >> > >> Olivier > >> > >> > >> Em 17/02/2017 05:43, Jean Weber escreveu: > >>> Olivier, > >>> Yes, please compile the book. I'll do a final review after > you've done > >>> that. A file with the covers, copyright page and TOC are in the > folder > >>> with the chapter files, ready for you. > >>> > > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-5.2 > > <http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-5.2> > >>> > >>> --Jean > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Olivier Hallot > >>> <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org > <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>> wrote: > >>>> Hello Jean > >>>> > >>>> I can compile the book after all files are reviewed, but a > final review > >>>> may be necessary. Let me know if you agree. > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Em 16/02/2017 08:42, Jean Weber escreveu: > >>>>> I'm doing final cleanup of the GS5.2 files and putting them > here as I do them: > >>>>> > > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-5.2 > > <
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Published chapter of GS5.2
Hello Martin, all
Em 24/02/2017 05:03, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> I just sent Jean and Olivier the link to the "cleaned" files so they can
> upload them to proper locations.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> 2017-02-24 8:36 GMT+01:00 Sophie <gautier.sop...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gautier.sop...@gmail.com>>:
>
> Hi Martin,
> Le 24/02/2017 à 08:18, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> > If wanted, I can do it for this release.
>
> Thanks a lot, it would be great :)
> Cheers
> Sophie
>
> --
> Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org
> <mailto:sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org>
> GSM: +33683901545 <tel:%2B33683901545>
> IRC: sophi
> Release coordinator
> The Document Foundation
>
>
Hi Martin
Thanks for the cleaned files.
However, after some time spent comparing them I found an issue in
Milos's python script.
Take GS5200-Preface.odt and compare the Note text (green bullet) where
it says "Some Linux distributions include LibreOffice..."
The cleaned file is in bold text, no matter you remove direct formatting
and apply the "Text Note" style. The output of the python script is
8<---
olivier@olivier-ntbk:~/52/Test$ ./odtclean.py -i GS5200-Preface.odt -o
clean/GS5200-Preface.odt
cleanSpans(T) : { s }
cleanSpans(T) : { Some Linux }
cleanSpans(T) : { distribution }
cleanSpans(T) : { s include }
cleanSpans(T) : { as part of the installation and may not include }
cleanSpans(T) : { all the }
cleanSpans(T) : { icon set }
cleanSpans(T) : { s mentioned above }
cleanSpans(T) : { . You should be able to download }
cleanSpans(T) : { o }
cleanSpans(T) : { ther }
cleanSpans(T) : { icon set }
cleanSpans(T) : { s }
cleanSpans(T) : { from the software repository for your Linux }
cleanSpans(T) : { distribution }
cleanSpans(T) : { if you wish to use them }
cleanSpans(T) : { . }
8<---
For the time being, I'll let the files as they are at the moment,
because they are good for publication. I recall that Jean cleaned the
5.1 final files which are the base of our 5.2 update.
Also, the script handles only character formatting + and an ancient OOo
style. Most of the issues I found in compiling the book and also
exporting to XTMHL dealed with other issues, especially in images and
lists, not in the scope of the script. I'll blog-posting my findings soon.
Lessons learned, lessons applied: Creating books with LO needs "manu
militari" discipline on styles.
Kind regards
--
Olivier Hallot
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Switching templates
Hello Jean Em 25/02/2017 19:35, Jean Weber escreveu: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Olivier Hallot > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >> >> I reverted to the default LO Chapter template. For other experiments >> like XHTML, I'll use another template with the specifics tweaks, and use >> the switch template extension. >> > > Are you referring to the Template Changer extension? > https://extensions.libreoffice.org/extensions/template-changer > > I thought it didn't work with recent version of LO. If it does work, hooray! > > Or is there a different extension? > > Thanks, > Jean > The extension in the extension website is broken. I got its updated version in a bugzilla attachment. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60592_from=fdo#c11 I uploaded it in the revised folder of ODFAuthor. Regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Published chapter of GS5.2
Hello Jean I uploaded the files to ODF Authors You'll see * The template (OTT) * The chapters (ODT) * The compiled book in ODT and PDF The HTML export of the chapters can be visualized in the following (unannounced) page: https://goo.gl/xUUG9V Regards Olivier Em 22/02/2017 20:42, Jean Weber escreveu: > I made a new folder: > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-5-2-revised/ > > The revised files also need to go on the wiki to replace the ones I > put there. I can do that, if you wish. > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > > --Jean > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Olivier Hallot > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >> Hello Jean >> >> It took a bit more time than I expected but I finally got it. >> >> I reviewed each individual chapter WRT styles and direct formatting >> (DF). Got some surprises to see DF messing paragraphs, lists and >> images styles that shifted contents out of position here and there. >> >> I applied table styles to all text tables. >> >> I fixed some image formats and residual DFs on it, that insisted to >> vanish when compiling the book. >> >> I updated the master style with some tweaks I had to do for the >> chapters. All commented. >> >> Where do I upload all these files? Note that it has another round of >> revisions (formatting) after your published chapters. >> >> Thank you >> >> Olivier >> >> >> Em 17/02/2017 05:43, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> Olivier, >>> Yes, please compile the book. I'll do a final review after you've done >>> that. A file with the covers, copyright page and TOC are in the folder >>> with the chapter files, ready for you. >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-5.2 >>> >>> --Jean >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Olivier Hallot >>> <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >>>> Hello Jean >>>> >>>> I can compile the book after all files are reviewed, but a final review >>>> may be necessary. Let me know if you agree. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 16/02/2017 08:42, Jean Weber escreveu: >>>>> I'm doing final cleanup of the GS5.2 files and putting them here as I do >>>>> them: >>>>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-5.2 >>>>> >>>>> Please use these files when updating for v5.3. >>>>> >>>>> When I have finished going through all these files, I will create PDFs >>>>> and put the ODTs and the PDFs on the wiki in the usual place. I will >>>>> also compile the book. >>>>> >>>>> --Jean >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Olivier Hallot >>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >>>> Comunidade LibreOffice >>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 >>>> http://tdf.io/joinus >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>>> Problems? >>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>> deleted >>> >> >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> http://tdf.io/joinus >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS5.2 Ch14 Customizing LO
Hi I have updated Chapter 14 Customizing LO with very few changes, mostly better screenshots. Regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Published chapter of GS5.2
Hello Jean I can compile the book after all files are reviewed, but a final review may be necessary. Let me know if you agree. Regards Em 16/02/2017 08:42, Jean Weber escreveu: > I'm doing final cleanup of the GS5.2 files and putting them here as I do them: > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-5.2 > > Please use these files when updating for v5.3. > > When I have finished going through all these files, I will create PDFs > and put the ODTs and the PDFs on the wiki in the usual place. I will > also compile the book. > > --Jean > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS5.2 Ch14 Keyboard shortcuts
Hi I have uploaded Ch14 (Appendix A - Keyboard Shortcuts) This closes my 5.2 revision. Regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
