[Elecraft] [K2] Question about cheap and dirty signal tracing

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin Cozens
Greetings. I have barely used my K2 going on about two years now. It seemed to work well when I first got it off the person who had assembled it. I got occasional comments about good audio when operating on SSB. I then started applying the mods to bring it in line with the post 3000 serial

[Elecraft] OT. what power for K3 in portable use?

2010-01-12 Thread Manuel Pareja
Hi elecrafters, I would like to have some advise about powering the k3 while I am portable. can not be very heavy because what I realy like is to go out to the mountain with a small backpack. 73 de Manolo EA7LL __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] OT. what power for K3 in portable use?

2010-01-12 Thread Mark Bayern
(why the OT label?) For backpacking use, you might want to look into the K3's little brothers, the KX1 and the K1. Mark AD5SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Question about cheap and dirty signal tracing

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kevin, It is normal to see a higher response touching a random, wire to C6 compared to touching the same wire to W6. The C6 location is a high impedance point while the W6 and D6 locations are low impedance - the capacitive dividers (C7,8 and C4,5) reduce the impedance. The end of a random

Re: [Elecraft] OT. what power for K3 in portable use?

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Manolo, Choose the largest 12 to 14 volt battery that you are willing to carry along - if the sun is shining, you may want to extend the operating time by adding a solar panel to the battery to keep the charge level up. The K3 draws about 900 ma. on receive, and the current will be more when

[Elecraft] Panadapter Setup for K2 - Where can I read-up on this? Goos source for advice?

2010-01-12 Thread Dean
I am looking for a source for good advice to set up a panadaper, software etc for the K2. Best to get/build, how to set it up etc. Thanks in advance for your help! Dean __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 headset at BH for $40

2010-01-12 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello, BH is shipping right now the CM500. I did my order December 11th, today I received an email telling me that was shipped. 73, Jorge CX6VM -Mensaje original- De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de w...@w5ov.com Enviado el:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 K3DSPUPG note

2010-01-12 Thread Bob Naumann
Just to further clarify, after lowering LO CUT to zero, the bottom two EQ bands have activated! Even so, it is indeed interesting that little energy exists at those low frequencies - even in an AM broadcast signal. This kind of EQ is a very powerful tool. I wish I had the free time to fully

Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter Setup for K2 - Where can I read-up on this? Goos source for advice?

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dean, The plan for the P3 as I have heard it is to also support the K2 IF, and I cannot recall if the LP-PAN is available with an IF input to match the K2 IF. You would need a buffer amplifier added to your K2 to bring the IF signal out. There is a version of Jack Smith's Z1 buffer

Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter Setup for K2 - Where can I read-up on this? Goos source for advice?

2010-01-12 Thread Matt Palmer
check here for softrocks. http://www.kb9yig.com/ they are still in high demand so you may have to check daily to see when more are added. Matt W8ESE On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Dean, The plan for the P3 as I have heard it is to also support the

Re: [Elecraft] K3: RF Gain, Squelch

2010-01-12 Thread David Y.
Don and All, Your last post raises a question in my mind--it probably has been discussed before, and if so, I missed it. I must admit that the number of posts on this reflector is often overwhelming, and I'm sure I get too quick with the delete key. Here's the question--I bought the 6 khz

Re: [Elecraft] K3: RF Gain, Squelch

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, The 6 kHz filter is mandatory for AM and/or ESSB *transmit*. For AM receive only, the 6 kHz IF bandpass reduces to a maximum AF frequency of 3 kHz after de-modulation of both sidebands. The 13 kHz FM filter can certainly be used for AM receive, and the K3 audio response can go as high as

Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 headset at BH for $40

2010-01-12 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
I received notice this morning, Jan. 12, that BH shipped mine which I ordered around Dec. 5 or so. /Rick N6XI On 1/10/10, Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com wrote: For some additional info, I placed an order with BH for these headsets on December 4 and they are still on backorder. Don't hold your

Re: [Elecraft] K3 HI-TEMP ALARM

2010-01-12 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
In my experience with this, the five watt calibration of the K3 was incorrect. The gain required to set the fifty watt cal was then incorrect. This can cause various problems, including burning out the low power amp, and not getting 100 watts out when 50 is calibrated. Note that a Bird wattmeter

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Want to buy a K3

2010-01-12 Thread Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
You bring up the interesting question of configuration for the narrow filter -- i.e., where do you set it to kick in? I opted for 1.9 kHz, you opted for 2.1 kHz. I'm curious as to where others have configured the 1.8 kHz SSB filter to kick in -- and why. Bill W5WVO

[Elecraft] reflector

2010-01-12 Thread robby robertson
Does anyone know a good way to read the digests from this reflector. I do not want to receive 50 emails a day to get 2 or 3 that are of interest to me. The K3 digest is getting ignored here because of all the repeat information I have to wade through. There must be a better way. -Robby

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Want to buy a K3

2010-01-12 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Bill, One reason for the 1.8 kHz roofing filter is the male voice. If you set Fc to around 1 kHz and reduce the BW to 1.8 kHz, you get just enough voice components in speech to leave it intelligible, but will also eliminate almost every trace of signals to the sides. This is excellent for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 HI-TEMP ALARM

2010-01-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
We're looking into this. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 11, 2010, at 7:20 PM, je1...@a1club.net wrote: Hi folks! Thank you for suggestions. In my previous post, I forgot to say that my K3 works without hi-temp alarm after warming up (about 30min or so without transmit just receiving status).

[Elecraft] Yamaha CM500

2010-01-12 Thread Hector Padron
Well it look like BH is receiving this week all the backup orders,I just called and was informed my order from November will be shiped today.   AD4C     For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 __ Elecraft mailing list

[Elecraft] K-2 FS

2010-01-12 Thread Phillip Buckholdt
Hector, AD4C Check ur yahoo email Phil K8MBY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:

Re: [Elecraft] How to Eliminate Power Supply Birdies?

2010-01-12 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:05:10 -0700, Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO wrote: The RFI is almost certainly common-mode and is being radiated by the AC power cord -- and, by extension, the house AC wiring. Yes, this is most common. Your typical store-bought AC line filter is a differential-mode device and

Re: [Elecraft] reflector

2010-01-12 Thread Julian, G4ILO
robby robertson wrote: Does anyone know a good way to read the digests from this reflector. I do not want to receive 50 emails a day to get 2 or 3 that are of interest to me. The K3 digest is getting ignored here because of all the repeat information I have to wade through. There must

Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500

2010-01-12 Thread Dave, W8OV
Good news! Do these come with a connector that will work with the K3, or do they have to be rewired, etc.? Dave, W8OV On 1/12/2010 10:32 AM, Hector Padron wrote: Well it look like BH is receiving this week all the backup orders,I just called and was informed my order from November will be

Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500

2010-01-12 Thread Dave, W8OV
Never mind. I looked them up. W8OV On 1/12/2010 12:01 PM, Dave, W8OV wrote: Good news! Do these come with a connector that will work with the K3, or do they have to be rewired, etc.? Dave, W8OV __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500

2010-01-12 Thread Dick Dievendorff
My Yamaha CM500 came with a 3.5mm stereo plugs for microphone and headphone audio, which plug right into a computer sound card or the back panel connectors of my K3. Yamaha also provided a 1/4 screw-on adapter that slips over the 3.5mm stereo plug. There was also a small bias battery case for a

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Inrad 1.5 khz SSB filters

2010-01-12 Thread Jim Balls - M0CKE
Back in stock, Ordered mine today http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=299cat=140page=1 WZ0O wrote: Good news from Inrad. They are cooking up another batch of the 1,5khz SSB filters. So those that were looking it won't be long. They said they would email me when there ready and I

[Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread srife
I am trying to verify the output at the IF OUT jack on the back of the K3. I have it connected to my K2 with the VFO set for 8215.00 and I see or hear no signal at all. Shouldn't I see the output from the K3? Is the signal that low that I won't even get a blip on the K2 receiver? Am I

[Elecraft] K3 kit or factory assembled

2010-01-12 Thread Mike K2MK
A resource for those who are undecided as to whether to build their K3 or have it factory assembled would be a viewing of N5NA's 7 minute YouTube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfUMZcwtIyw It's a masterpiece of time lapse photography. And very enjoyable as well. 73, Mike K2MK -- View

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Alan Bloom
You should hear whatever signals the K3 is tuned to. I'm assuming you are connected to the IF OUT jack of the KXV3 or KXV3A. If you haven't done the IF output mod: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf then the signal level will be lower than at the K3 antenna

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Planisky
I don't think you'll hear much of anything on a K2 at 8.215 MHz. That's well outside the 40m passband. The K2 does not have general coverage RX. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:05 PM, sr...@swbell.net wrote: I am trying to verify the output at the IF OUT jack on the back of

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan, The K2 cannot receive that frequency - the dial may say so, but the VFO/PLL has maxed out at about 7400 kHz (if you are tuning from 40 meters) and although the dial continues to increment, the actual frequency will not go any higher. Even if it did, the bandpass filters would probably

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread srife
I thought about that and I guess that must be the case. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: Joe Planisky [mailto:jp...@jeffnet.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:57 PM To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output I don't

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread borch
My K2 will tune to 8125 and I can hear the IF signal of the K3. It is weak, but audible. I have the IF mod installed in my K3 AJ9Q, Burl - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:06:55 -0600

[Elecraft] XV144 LO frequency

2010-01-12 Thread Bo, OZ2M
Hi all During the Christmas holidays I finally decided to assemble my XV144, and XV432 too. Much to my surprise the XV144 design does not come with an LO adjustment possibility. This is relevant for me as I do not use it with an Elecraft or other display trick capable radio. Has anyone

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
If you have an oscilloscope you can connect it and see the output. I have a K3 which has the modified IF with higher output. I have a 5 MHz (-3 dB) oscilloscope in my shack for monitoring. Even at 8.215 MHz it indicates up to +/- 50 mV in the 40 m band (no ATT, no PRE). In other bands it is

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread srife
Don, can I use the SUB receiver in the K3 to do that? I have the KBPF3 in the sub receiver. Stan Rife W5EWA - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:06:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread srife
I wonder if I could do the same with my HP 3403C True RMS meter? Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:18 PM To:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Burl, Some will do that, but most will not - it all depends on the exact value of the capacitors in the VFO Range Select circuit - a few pF one way or another makes a big difference. BTW, that is what setting the L30 adjustment to get the voltage at the left end of R30 is all about. Yes, the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan, I should think you can - although you will have to be careful to listen to the correct audio channel - it would be wierd to hear the real K3 received signal in one ear and the sub receiving the IF output signal in the other. 73, Don W3FPR sr...@swbell.net wrote: Don, can I use the SUB

[Elecraft] XV daisy chaining with non-Elecrafts

2010-01-12 Thread Bo, OZ2M
Hi Has anyone done daisy chaining of the Elecraft transverters without using an Elecraft radio? I acknowledge that the AuxBus is used and intelligent communication is needed from an additional microcontroller. Initially I thought, without taking a closer look at the diagram, that it was

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread srife
I was expecting to hear a carrier, but after I thought about it that can't be the case. With the IF connected to the Subreceiver I can tune around either side of 8215 and hear QSO's. I have to have the Preamp on by I can hear them. Would that be considered adequate? I have done

Re: [Elecraft] XV144 LO frequency

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bo, You certainly are welcome to try pulling the crystal frequency with a small parallel or series capacitor, but the stability may suffer - I have not tried it, this is a theoretical guess. Remember the crystal in all except the XV50 are overtone crystals - the XV50 uses a fundamental mode

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread Andrew Faber
You can also try borrowing an Icom Pro series (or presumably their larger radios as well), and hook the if out to the antenna input on the Pro, which will then act as a bandscope for the K3 when tuned to 8215 kHz.. I do this at P49Y (an idea from W0YK) and it works very well. 73, andy, ae6y

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] IF output

2010-01-12 Thread srife
It's working. I tuned around and got some really loud signals even without the preamp on. So I can move forward now trying to get the LP-Pan working. Thanks everyone, Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] XV daisy chaining with non-Elecrafts

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bo, The XV transverters can be daisy-chained for the key line and the IF coax cables - see the diagram on page 12 of the Owner's manual. I would think it would be easier to select the proper transverter by merely pressing the power on/off switch of the one you want rather than trying to

[Elecraft] K3: Heil HC-4

2010-01-12 Thread Ruben Navarro Huedo
Hello: I want use a FC-4 headset with the k3. What settings are you using? MIC.SEL Menu? Do i have to select H or L? and Bias? I think it is H and Bias Off. Is ok? Thank`s a lot. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com

[Elecraft] [K3] Noise reduction Notch

2010-01-12 Thread srife
I've noticed that I am unable to operate the NR NTCH independantly on the main sub receiver. If I turn either control on, it's on for both receivers. Can't turn it on for one receiver and have it off for the other like you can for the Preamp the NB. I installed the 2nd DSP for the Sub

[Elecraft] K3 CW sidetone oddity

2010-01-12 Thread Phil Hystad
I am a new owner of a K3 and still learning... Today, for some strange reason my sidetone in CW on the 20 meter band seems to be producing two notes and not a single pure note. That is, it sounds more like the button tones of a push button phone then a pure sinewave tone. This is only 20

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW sidetone oddity

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil, There is no normal and reasonable explanation for that, the sidetone generation is not band dependent. Is there a possibility that you have an RF Feedback problem on 20 meters - that is the only thing I can think of. 73, Don W3FPR Phil Hystad wrote: I am a new owner of a K3 and still

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW sidetone oddity

2010-01-12 Thread Phil Hystad
Don, No RF feedback -- 20 meters is my most perfect antenna (40 meters is my worst). However, I plugged the headphones in again and this time the tone was clear and normal. I unplugged the headphones and again now the tone is clear and normal. Is there a possibility that such behavior of

[Elecraft] W1 Wattmeter SWR Bridge

2010-01-12 Thread John Lawrence
I have need to place a remote 120 watt rf power measuring device out at the antenna site some 450 feet from the shack. I have RS-232 wireless connectivity at the remote location and would like to use the W1 to provide the measurement. Does anyone have experience using the W1 with the GUI

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Heil HC-4

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Williams
Ruben, MIC.SEL is FP.L (front panel), rP.L (rear panel) and LINE IN. This is for selecting where you plugged the microphone in. The HC-4 DOES NOT use Bias. 73, Tom N2CU K3 #3582 __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] RF Speech Processors

2010-01-12 Thread K6LE
I almost hate to bring this up since my flame suit is out at the cleaners but before I sell my Ten-Tec 715 RF Speech Processor that is left over from my previous radio I am wondering if anyone has done a comparison between it and the built in RF processor on the K3? I have mine wired up for

Re: [Elecraft] RF Speech Processors

2010-01-12 Thread Brian Mury
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 17:05 -0800, K6LE wrote: I almost hate to bring this up since my flame suit is out at the cleaners but before I sell my Ten-Tec 715 RF Speech Processor that is left over from my previous radio I am wondering if anyone has done a comparison between it and the built in RF

Re: [Elecraft] RF Speech Processors

2010-01-12 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:05:05 -0800, K6LE wrote: I am hoping there is no advantage I haven't tried it, nor have I seen anything from anyone who has. BUT -- the speech processing in the K3 is VERY good and VERY flexible, so it's hard to imagine anything you could add outboard that could improve

Re: [Elecraft] RF Speech Processors

2010-01-12 Thread Lyle Johnson
I am hoping there is no advantage so I can rid my desk of one more little black box. The one thing that I can see on it that would be nice is the ability to shift the passband. In the case of the K3, the Tx EQ can be used to tailor the ultimate sound, and the MON fuinction lets you hear

[Elecraft] K2 RF board X7-X11

2010-01-12 Thread Conway Yee
What is the best way to solder X7-X11 crystals? The instructions say to solder two ground leads on the side. The ground leads on the left are between the crystal and the resistor packs. I think I should solder the ground leads onto the crystals before soldering the leads onto the crystal case

Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF board X7-X11

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Conway, Use a hot soldering iron - 800 deg F - to heat the crystal cases quickly. Use a flat bladed screwdriver to form the ground leads up against the crystal case. Then apply the soldering iron (out a bit of solder on the iron tip to aid heat transfer). Hold the solder on the crystal can

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Inrad 1.5 khz SSB filters

2010-01-12 Thread Brett Howard
Thanks much! I just bought 2. ~Brett(KC7OTG) On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 11:44 -0800, Jim Balls - M0CKE wrote: Back in stock, Ordered mine today http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=299cat=140page=1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Question about cheap and dirty signal tracing

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin Cozens
Thank you Don, and Tom, for your replies. Don Wilhelm wrote: It is normal to see a higher response touching a random, wire to C6 compared to touching the same wire to W6. The C6 location is a high impedance point while the W6 and D6 locations are low impedance - the capacitive dividers

[Elecraft] FS: Inrad 1.8Khz 8-Pole Filters

2010-01-12 Thread Brett Howard
125.95 + shipping new. But I'd like to get $100 shipped. Any takers? Please reply directly so that I don't miss it. Thanks much gentlemen. ~Brett (KC7OTG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF board X7-X11

2010-01-12 Thread Conway Yee
Don, The issue is that the ground leads on the left side of the case is between a resistor pack and the crystal case. There isn't the room to solder the ground lead after soldering the crystal in place. Should I solder the ground leads onto the case BEFORE I solder the crystal onto the PC

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] K2 -- Audio output

2010-01-12 Thread 2rGarry
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have come to the conclusion that the audio is probably where it should be and that there is nothing amiss within the audio circuitry. I just installed the Ksb2 today and have that to play with. Listening with the ssb filters does make a fair difference in

Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF board X7-X11

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Conway, There is space to solder them. Solder at about the height of the top of the RPaks, and clip the leads off just above that point so the KSB2 option will fit. Hole the soldering iron tip so that is lots of contact with the crystal case to maximize the heat transfer. The solder does

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] K2 -- Audio output

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Garry, To get the best filter alignment (both SSB and CW), use Spectrogram. Take a look at the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com as well as the information provided by Tom Hammond on aligning the K2 filters using Spectrogram at both www.n0ss.net and the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Want to buy a K3

2010-01-12 Thread Philippe Trottet
Hi Bill, Just do a test, it is so easy to modify with the Elecraft utility. In my severe environment, I've noticed a slight difference at 2.1 when using the 2.8 or the 1.8, so I decided to use the 2.1 with the 1.8 it's more sharp but it is my own pereception and others can have different feeling

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Want to buy a K3

2010-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, Where you set the kick-in point is largely up to your ears. The slope on the crystal filter is more gentle than the steep sided DSP filters - as a result, the crystal filter actual width will vary depending on whether you refer to the -3 dB point, or the -6 dB points or even the -10 dB

Re: [Elecraft] RF Speech Processors

2010-01-12 Thread Wes Stewart
--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:  All of which is why we've not heard much about folks trying RF speech processing. :) 73, Jim K9YC I built one years ago, but personally, I'm partial to split-band processing :-)  So were the Kenwood engineers that designed

Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 headset at BH for $40

2010-01-12 Thread David Y.
Yep! I got an email saying mine had been shipped also. Guess the ship finally came in! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM cx6vm.jo...@adinet.com.uy To: 'Elecraft List' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft]

[Elecraft] [K3] Noise reduction Notch

2010-01-12 Thread srife
Anyone have any info on this? I've noticed that I am unable to operate the NR NTCH independantly on the main sub receiver. If I turn either control on, it's on for both receivers. Can't turn it on for one receiver and have it off for the other like you can for the Preamp the

Re: [Elecraft] RF Speech Processors

2010-01-12 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:16:15 -0800 (PST), Wes Stewart wrote: I built one years ago, but personally, I'm partial to split-band processing :-) That's the sort of sophisticated broadcast stuff I was referring to. Not cheap, makes rock and roll radio stations LOUD! The Aphex Dominator is a