Why is that the 'only' correct way?
I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what
feels most natural to the user?
Is there something about using a thumb for dots that makes it feel
more comfortable?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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In theory, there is no difference between theory
At 03:12 AM 08/20/09, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
Why is that the 'only' correct way?
I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what
feels most natural to the user?
Aw, now you did it.next thing you know we'll start discussing the correct
way to tie shoe laces, or play
And they said?
At 03:12 AM 08/20/09, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
Why is that the 'only' correct way?
I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what
feels most natural to the user?
Aw, now you did it.next thing you know we'll start discussing the correct
way to tie shoe
That would be nice indeed.
Vy 73
OZ1CCM Kjeld
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 19. august 2009 23:18
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought
Just to extend the idea a
I have used the new NR release for a few days now, and see some plus and
minus with the changes.. at least as I use the K3 for CW which is the main
mode here.
I usually listen at 50 or 100Hz, so the background noise is already much
reduced compared to wider bandwidths. To find someone calling me
Elecraft K3
I thought this reflector was about Elecraft products not general chat about
morse keys or any other subject.My in box gets clogged up with irrelevant
messages most of which are deleted.
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David and All,
I'm not convinced there is a right way to do it. Somehow, the ergonomics
may be better using the standard approach, but I'm not sure I can really
detect any benefit either way. I'm a leftie, but I've always just accepted
the right hand version of bugs and keyer paddles. I
Good words
Uwe
DK4WW
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Elecraft K3
I thought this reflector was about Elecraft products not general chat about
Seems to me that both the previous stuff and the new stuff has its
merits. I find that I use the new ones more than I did the old ones...
But it seems that with as many selections as we have (and many of them
seem very similar) why not have one or two of the numbers implement the
previous
Thanks, yes, I am planning on learning the conventional way, but most
likley with my left hand, I'm a southpaw too :-)
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(1892 - 1973)
On 20 Aug 2009, at 09:12, David Y. wrote:
David and All,
I'm not convinced there is a
I think you will find Eric and Wayne encourage discussions related to
amateur radio, not just related to Elecraft products.
And Eric steps in when he thinks the thread has gone on long enough.
Since I have a HexKey (#375) and that's what I'm figuring on using, it
might be claimed that this
Well use your DMM and measure the resistance of your power cord. Then
look at the current consumption of the K3. Then multiply these values
together. Good ole ohms law (v=i*r). If you end up getting about .16V
then there is your drop...
~Brett
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:38 -0700, Robin Diane
I work as a design engineer in the medical electronics industry and am
well aware of both the domestic and international requirements as well
as the implications of removing the lead from solder.
My chief concern is with tin whiskering. Eventually small strands of
tin hair grow amongst component
I like this. But if it's done don't display the same information on the P3
and the monitor. The Icom 7700 does this and it appears repetitive to
display the same thing twice.
73 Jeff kb2m
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I have band memories set up for each band 1.8 thru 50 on key pads 1 thru 0.
Further I have discrete in band frequencies/ modes in M1 thru M4.
A recently noticed issue has been that sometimes the double beep stops
working when I press MVFO and 1 thru zero ( to call up a band) and then MV
MM1 to
(Snip)
I like this. But if it's done don't display the same information on the P3
and the monitor. The Icom 7700 does this and it appears repetitive to
display the same thing twice.
73 Jeff kb2m
(End snip)
Jeff,
I would use the display feature purely as a means to be able to leave my
glasses
Guys,
Was trying to figure out whether this is necessary. (not a big deal but
extracting the K3 from the bunch of connection is a pain)
It appears to me that this mod may be needed if one has two radios and
an A/B switch which has insufficient port to port isolation.
Some hand calcs
Hi,
I believe you are referring to the Noise Reduction NR filter. I am afraid
that you have discovered that if this emperor has any clothes at all, they
are pretty skimpy. I have never seen a proper problem statement as to what
type of noise this filter is supposed to remove or reduce.
Erik,
You might want to look into one of the amplified headsets or earbuds.
The amplifier is usually in a plastic 'bump' on the cord, but it may do
the job for you.
73,
Don W3FPR
Erik N Basilier wrote:
My question is: Is there a headset that is physically similar to the very
light Sony
Hi Robin
The last firmware NR was a bit on the to aggressive side making
everything sound like it was
coming through a pipe or hollow sounding I found my self not using it
often to fatiguing over
time to listen to.
This revised NR is a bit on the other side of the spectrum while the
finish
I use Klipsch Image X10 headphones with my KX-1they are absolutely
the best headphones I have ever used.
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-overview/
They are not cheap, but you can find them for less than retail at most
higher end audio stores.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM,
PS.
The noise blanker (NB) on the other hand is fabulous on impulse noise. I
sometimes have very serious power line noise and most of the time the NB
totally obliterates it. In all cases it seriously reduces it.
AB2TC - Knut
ab2tc wrote:
Hi,
I believe you are referring to the Noise
I would like to see it configurable both ways. All of the display , or just
say the pan adapter. Or also possibly use the extra real estate to display
additional information, like a data display, for PSK31.
73 Jeff kb2m
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Hi Robin
Firmware 3.25
S/N 3142
Born on Date 6/13/09
The last firmware NR was a bit on the to aggressive side making
everything sound like it was coming through a pipe or hollow
sounding. I found my self not using it often to fatiguing over
time to listen to, especially on SSB.
This revised NR is
Every time I go out with the KX1, I get annoyed with how my Optimus earbuds
hurt my ears and one falls out repeatedly. I know that Koss earbuds have
been recommended on the list before, but I assume they too are too large for
my ears. The Optimus ones are 0.65 or 16.4 mm in diameter. I do
At great risk of being a pain in the patootie - will the W2 kit manual be
posted for download soon? I have found that downloading the manual and
reading it before a kit arrives reduces the risk of my hurrying through
assembly and the mistakes that are made when I do.
I'm sure nobody else has
On the K3, the VFO B knob may be used to select voltage, amps, time, etc. To
determine what the power draw is for portable operations, I connected a
multimeter in series with the supply and measured amps at various stages,
hence idle (receive), key down for 5 watts, 10 watts, etc.
At idle my
Yes. I could retire my good old Kenwood SM-220 monitor scope then.
Philip
Andy wrote:
Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output
with an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It
is then easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid
I've been operating left-handed with dots on the fore-finger since the
early 60's when my dad built a tube based Heathkit keyer. I can
comfortably send 25 WPM without even thinking about what my fingers are
doing. I'm sure there's a point to encouraging newbies to learn the
right way. But in
How old are you going to be in 20 years? Plus, remember the internet is
killing ham radio and there will only be two dozen hams left then
anyway, and half of them will be like me with no place to put up an
antenna.
Thanks for the fear-mongering though. It's not like I don't get enough
of that.
Another high end option you might want to look into is one of the
Etymotic Research models.
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx
I have a pair of ER4S's that I have used for years with iPods for air
travel. It does wonders to passively attenuate crying babies, etc.,
and the frequency
I have to say the idea of working Data modes via a KB and the P3 is
growing on me. As is sending CW, not for me, but there are ops out
there with disabilities that mean the only way to send is via a k/b
with very lite touch keys.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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A child, like your stomach, doesn't
On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Brian Murrey wrote:
I use Klipsch Image X10 headphones with my KX-1they are absolutely
the best headphones I have ever used.
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-overview/
They are not cheap, but you can find them for less than retail at most
higher
Yup. Makes me glad mine were a gift...but BOY do they sound great.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Rick Dettingerk7m...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Brian Murrey wrote:
I use Klipsch Image X10 headphones with my KX-1they are absolutely
the best headphones I have
There is a modular connector on the bottom near the front right corner,
what's if for?
Butch K0BS
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Elecraft's use in testing and service - not usable by 'end user'
although in the early days there were mutterings on it's use for
attachments. I'd consider it not to be there until/if something
eventually comes along - the P3 will not be using this as far as I know.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:36:50 -0500, Butch Schartau
k0bsbu...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a modular connector on the bottom near the front right corner,
what's if for?
Butch K0BS
[snip]
Factory testing
Tom, N5GE
n...@n5ge.com
K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1 and other small kits.
On my wishlist would be for an option to KEEP the fonts nice and small as
they are now. This would allow for a high resolution get more info on the
P3 screen mode... For those of us who still have acute vision I much prefer
to use very high resolution screens and take advantage of the
The Etymotic's are actually a really good price point for the quality.
You're not paying for a name like Klipsch who is literally just implementing
technology that Etymotic sells to them.
Ety doesn't make active noise cancelling products for audio heard.
Technically their not really doing
That is the test port which allows for working with the software and what
not... There has been talk of Elecraft designing some sort of keyboard that
may be able to be plugged in there but at the moment that has yet to
materialize. So for now just consider it a test port for the software
design
The P3 has a similar connector, but it is internal to the cabinet. It
is for programming the boot loader and initial firmware at the factory.
Alan N1AL
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:45 +0100, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
Elecraft's use in testing and service - not usable by 'end user'
As a CW operator, I can state very matter of fact, the old NR was exactly what
I needed to operate code at my QTH, AND the biggest reason that I chose to buy
the K3 over another larger radio. Unlike others that don't seem to think the NR
ever did anything, I can emphatically tell you that with
- Original Message -
From: Ralph Parker ve...@dccnet.com
Indeed, there is only one correct way - the dots are always on the thumb,
regardless of which hand is used. I assume this applies also to
left-handed
bugs, although I've never seen one. (Otherwise, how would you know that
Guy, help me out here. Is there voice software available or in the works?
Forwarded for friend.
73, de Jim KG0KP
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From: w0pc
To: kg...@arrl.net ; jimmil...@stl-online.net
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: K3 Voice Software?
Jim,
Have you tried
Gary,
The point you are making has been mentioned in the past. It is not a
channel selection as mentioned by Brett, but you are referring to the
possibility to operate the K3 in either a VFO or Memory mode. This
can be done in other radios. The K3 is always in the VFO mode and by
a number of
Look at K3 Voice here: http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm
Not difficult to find at all ...
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Miller KG0KP
Sent: Thursday, August
Erik N Basilier wrote:
Every time I go out with the KX1, I get annoyed with how my Optimus
+ earbuds hurt my ears and one falls out repeatedly. I know that Koss
I have a problem with Walkman type buds falling out, but that is the
shape of my earlobes, which don't have grooves in the right place
Fred
Channel hopping as done by Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom is what I really want with
the ability to use the VFO B as a memory/channel change knob and VFO A as it
normally is used.
I do not know if there is a specific limitation of the K3 or whether it is just
a case of being too far down
Yes I was referring to something very similar to this... If you end up ever
owning a pair of Etymotic ER-4's then you can get Westone to make you a set
of these to give you a custom fit:
http://www.westone.com/content/194.html
Also note that if you to go style No. 7 you can get a custom fit for
rfenab...@gmail.com wrote:
Fred
Channel hopping as done by Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom is what I really want with
the
ability to use the VFO B as a memory/channel change knob and VFO A as it
normally
is used.
That would be a very interesting option ;-) It also would be very nice
I finally got a chance to load up the new FW and try the new NR. Like
everyone else, I didn't notice much if any difference between F1-1 and
F4-4 while turning the knob. However, I found that there WAS a
difference if I dialed in a new setting, then turned NR off and back
on. In other
I'm currently working on K3 Voice support to speak configuration menu
selections.
Dick, K6KR
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:34 PM
To: 'Jim Miller
David is correct.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft list moderator
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
I think you will find Eric and Wayne encourage discussions related to
amateur radio, not just related to Elecraft products.
And Eric steps in when he thinks the thread has gone on long enough.
Since I
Joe, same here! Big difference in changing settings from F1-1 to F4-4 in one
continuous motion vs. your method with an exit NR and turn it back on.
Hummm? I also notice that if you use your method with a noticeable NR
improvement when switched on and then go into adjust mode the effect
Wasn't there some sort of thought that the DVR could be used to do this
all built into the rig a long time ago?
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:06 -0700, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
I'm currently working on K3 Voice support to speak configuration menu
selections.
Dick, K6KR
-Original
Thanks Dick, Just extras for some of us (now) but necessary for others. I
will be playing with it when I get a chance.
Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP
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From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net
To: li...@subich.com; 'Jim Miller KG0KP' jimmil...@stl-online.net;
Several posts to the list have indicated that the NR function in K3 firmware
3.25 sounds the same, regardless of which NR setting has been selected.
As mentioned by another list member, firmware 3.25 has an anomaly that prevents
a new NR setting from immediately taking effect.
The work-around
Several posts to the list have indicated that the NR function in K3 firmware
3.25 sounds the same, regardless of which NR setting has been selected.
As mentioned by another list member, firmware 3.25 has an anomaly that
prevents a new NR setting from immediately taking effect.
The
Hi Peter,
My in box gets clogged up with irrelevant messages most of which are
deleted.
You can create a new folder in your email software that is separate from
your inbox, and set up a filter to have all messages from the Elecraft
reflector automatically moved into that folder. That way they
I have just installed the ATU in my K3 and can't seem to find an
explanation or tutorial on how it should be operated. I am used to the
ICOM tuners and they automatically retuned and recalled settings as you
changed frequencies and bands. The K3 ATU seems to recall previous
settings, but only
You have to manually tune it throughout the band for it to learn the
settings to be recalled. You can either do this by tuning about every
20kc or you can download K3_EZ and then you can click a button and it
will automatically do the tuning for you. It just tunes qsy's tunes
qsy's again until
Thanks all for the suggestions!
Not having fallen yet for the fashionable pocket music players, I wasn't
aware of how much money young people can spend on earbuds, nor that the
in-ear style is back into fashion. OK, I have an expensive headset for phone
operation, and I appreciate expensive
If sensitivity isn't specified often impedance is and the lower the
impedances usually result in higher efficiencies.
~Brett (KC7OTG)
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 22:27 -0700, Erik N Basilier wrote:
Thanks all for the suggestions!
Not having fallen yet for the fashionable pocket music players, I
This is a real application for blackberry smart phones...
Just thought the guys here would appreciate this one!
~Brett (KC7OTG)
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