Nick,
No, the scope has not changed since 1990, and of course any
manufacturer of gas appliances and components for gas appliances
should do a formal analysis against the exact requirements of the
Directive in order to decide whether or not they comply. However, for
the most part, unless
At 15:16 -0500 31/3/2001, cdup...@cs.com wrote:
Hi Dan.
You wrote:
One of our clients wants to ship a small (less than 10)quantity of an
industrial gas appliance into the EU. -snip- Would appreciate any input
from the
group.
Here's some thoughts
It goes without saying that you'll need
John,
Can you give us an example of these 'special provisions'?
I have often wondered how the formula 1 people go about complying
with the CE marking requirements.
Regards
Nick.
At 23:07 +0100 30/3/2001, John Woodgate wrote:
nfbbjpdpilfhdjcppoadiegacgaa.dteni...@dtec-associates.com,
The Gas Appliances Directive contains two different routes which are
alternatives to the full type approval route. These are the
'verification' routes and they are intended for exactly the situation
you describe. There are some brief details at
In view of recent postings, I hope no one minds me posting the
following which arrived in my in-box today
Nick
_
An engineer dies and reports to the pearly gates. St. Peter checks
his dossier and says, Ah, you're an engineer--you're in the wrong
place.
So the engineer reports
The EC have finally published the proposals for revisions to 98/37/EC
(the Machinery Directive). The document can be downloaded from
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/direct
/proposal_en.pdf
I've not had time to read it yet, but it looks evolutionary rather
Is is just me, or is anyone else having trouble with UL's on line
point of sale of standards? This is not the place to provide a
detailed critique of the faults inherent in the service, but there
seems to be numerous broken links, no useable contact phone number
for customers from outside
I've been asked to look at the requirements for an intercom system
intended for use in aircraft. The system is wired (i.e. no radio
link) and is self contained although it can also interface to the
flight radio so that the pilot can talk to air traffic control.
I am aware that there is an
A client has asked about ECMA standards. Apparently they have to
respond to a tender document which requires compliance with ECMA 97.
There would appear to be no mention of ECMA 97 on their web site. I'd
be interested to hear from anyone who has any information on this
standard, and in
In general, I find, the national implementations of EC directives are
less ambiguous and easier to understand that the directives
themselves so EMC-PSTC readers may be interested to note that the UK
government has now got the full text of all statutory instruments and
Acts of Parliament
The UK government's Department of Trade and Industry (DTi) publish a
guideline document on this. It can be downloaded from:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/strd/strdpubs.htm
Hope that helps.
Nick.
At 11:48 -0500 15/12/2000, Mark Gill wrote:
EMC Folks -
I'm looking for some insight into the
Message-
From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:29 PM
To: Courtland Thomas
Cc: emcpost
Subject: Re: CE Marking Passive devices
Courtland,
Since no one else seems to have answered your basic question, I will
have a go for you.
SNIP
The Work Equipment Directive 89/655/EEC (implemented in the UK by The
Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations 1998 (SI 1998:2306)
which is where the PUWER name comes from) does not mandate standards
directly. However, the WED requires that workplace equipment put into
service since
Courtland,
Since no one else seems to have answered your basic question, I will
have a go for you.
Passive devices and components such as cables are excluded from the
EMC Directive and as such carry no CE mark under this directive. This
is not to say that all components are excluded - this
I think this might be being a bit optimistic. In my experience,
customs officials have every right to do exactly what they damn well
please. Certainly, in the UK, Her Majesty's Customs and Excise
officers have powers to stop, search and confiscate which far exceed
those of the normal police.
I'm wanting to obtain a copy of IEE STD 739-1995 which I know can be
downloaded from the IEEE web site. However, I was wondering if, as a
member of the British IEE, there is any kind of reciprocal agreement
where I can obtain IEEE documents at the IEEE member price.
Does anyone know
If it's got electrical power (e.g. self contained with pumps) try
EN60335-2-40. Otherwise, if it's under 0.5bar gauge there's no
requirement and if it's more than 0.5bar gauge at any point the
Pressure Equipment Directive may apply.
Drop me a line direct if you need more help.
Rgds
Nick.
I remember being told once that cows are particularly susceptible to
electric shock, although it was in one of those conversations which
was completely unattributable.
ISTR there is something in the EN60335 series which covers this.
60335-2-71 (Appliances for breeding and rearing animals)
Jim,
Others have already pointed you at the relevant EC Directive, but the
standard you need is:
prEN1005-2 1993 Human physical performance -manual handling of
objects associated to machinery.
It is, apparently, still at draft stage, and I don't know what the
cause of the delay is.
I wasn't aware of this problem, but having checked out our site, I
can only plead guilty, m'lud. I've not had time to update the image
files yet, but I have added a new file which gives the proper
proportions including the square grid shown in the Directives
themselves.
Take a trip to:
BSI's on-line and printed catalogues give the following information
about the above standard:
BS EN 50178:1998 Electronic equipment for use in power installations
That's all it says, except a list of cross references as long as both
your arms. Before I waste GBP56 of my hard earned cash on
Raymond,
I can confirm that such a 'memo' was issued, since I recall
discussing it with a colleague in a UK notified body at the time
(circa 1994). As I recall, it resulted from a meeting of whatever
forum represents LVD Notified Bodies in the UK shortly after the
document declaring an
Koh ,
EN60335-1 is not the appropriate standard for your purposes, and I'd
be very suspicious of the supplier who claims it is.
There is no such standard as EN60335-2-207.
IEC742/EN60742 is definitely not the same as EN60335. EN60742 was the
standard for plug-top (and other) transformers
Can someone tell me what (in general) EN60601-1-1 Medical electrical
equipment. General requirements for safety. Collateral standard.
Safety requirements for medical electrical systems contains which is
not already in the basic general requirement EN60601-1?
Many thanks
Nick.
At 15:09 +0800 4/7/2000, raymond...@dixonsasia.com.hk wrote:
In order to sell a product to all EEC countries, more and more companies are
using a UK 13A plug adapter which takes a Europlug cordset in their products.
The plug adapter is approved by BSI or ASTA, fitted with a BS1362 3A fuse and
For Europe, the safety standards will be
EN 61010-1:1993
Safety requirements for electrical equipment for measurement, control
and laboratory use. General requirements
plus one (or more) of
EN 61010-2-041:1997 ( IEC 61010-2-041:1995)
Safety requirements for electrical equipment for
Can somebody give me a good pointer for resource in relation to the
US FDA requirements (i.e. what is covered, and what the requirements
are?)
I've been asked to consider what might be required for the sale of a
clinical thermometer for consumer use in the US.
Regards
Nick.
Plugs and sockets for domestic use are excluded from the scope of the
LVD and therefore cannot be CE marked. This means that the obligation
to provide free access to their internal market does not apply. The
Germans are (regretfully) free to do as they please on this one.
The UK does the
Richard,
IIRC you asked about this last week.
If you've not already found it, the EC have put some information and
a draft of the WEE directive at:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/environment/docum/00347_en.htm
Regards
Nick.
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This message is from the
The requirement is defined in the following:
EN60730-1 clause 7.2.1, table 7. item 17 (L, N earth symbol required)
EN60950 clause 1.7.7.1 (earth symbol); 1.7.7.2 (N)
EN61010-1 - no requirement (as far as I can see at a quick glance)
EN61558-1 - clause 8.6 (N and earth symbol)
EN60204-1 -
Air conditioning appliances do not appear on my (1995) copy of the
prescribed list of appliances for Western Australia.
Can anyone confirm (or deny) that they do not require approval for
sale in WA or any other part of Australia?
Thanks, and regards
Nick.
I get asked quite often what a client needs to be able to do to
legally sell their products in the US, and we also do a reasonable
amount of UL agency work so we get people approaching us to ask
what's involved in the UL approval. I'd like to think I'm reasonably
up to date with the
It's a while since we've had anything to do with equipment being
shipped to Australia, so I'd like to check up and see if the
situation has changed in the meanwhile.
I've been asked what would be the requirements for shipping a switch
mode battery charger intended for charging batteries in
Repeat of something I posted last week for another enquiry:
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Rick
Does anyone know of any good resources or actual requirements for the
safe use of stroboscopic light sources? The application is a public
science display. I recall rumors of stroboscopes operating at certain
frequencies being capable of triggering fits, but whether this is
just an old wive's
As an engineer, I have a lot of sympathy with the position taken by
Mike that the DofI would be a useful document for compliance with the
EMC Directive (and other directives too). However, the DofI is only
an available option for compliance with the Machinery Directive.
It's important to
Can't give you a direct answer, but I found a site you might find
useful earlier today - it covers the details of the MRA's currently
in force, including details of the approved labs.
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/international/indexb1.htm
HTH
Nick.
At 09:59 -0500 27/3/2000,
Rick,
The standard you need is:
prEN1005-2 1993 Human physical performance -manual handling of
objects associated to machinery.
It is, apparently, still at draft stage, and I don't know what the
cause of the delay is. However, it's got the sort of data you are
looking for and it seems to
There seems to be come confusion on the matter of technical files and
technical construction files, and referring to the text of the CE
mark directives, it's not difficult to see why since there is no
consistency in the way in which the terms are used. My understanding
is as follows.
The full list of EU legislation in force can be found at:
http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/lif/index.html
Be warned - this is everything the EU currently has in force,
including agricultural, social and other matters. CE marking and
product safety in general only forms a (very) small part of
I've been asked to look at a piece of equipment for shipping to the
US, and give some recommendations on what approval would be best for
the equipment.
I'm not at liberty to give great detail but I can say that the
apparatus is for use in hospitals, but not in contact with patients -
it is
Annex 1 section 1.7.4 of the Machinery Directive contains as good a basic
desciption of what should be contained in an instruction manual as I know
of (although it's only in very general terms, of course). You can get the
full Annex free from
I have used the EUDOR site to download TIFF image files of OJ's I want on
several occasions in recent months. These are scanned images of the
original journal pages so they have the full text including any tables and
figures.
If one so chooses (and has the software) the files can then be
Thanks for your comments, Kevin. I don't intend to make a big thing about
this, but I'm not convinced by your arguments and in the hope that you (or
someone else) will be able to make arguments which can show me the error of
my ways, I'd make the following comments:
At 23:24 -0400 28/9/99,
Very little to do with the topc in the header I'm afraid, but...
This post raises a point which has concerned me for some time, and which
I'd be interested in opinions from other sources on.
It is my impression (and it is only an impression - I have made no attempt
to gather objective evidence)
I'm posting this message since it may save a few other people from wasting
some time like I have done in the last few days.
In the latest issue of Business Standards, the magazine which BSI send
round to all subscribers, there is a splash article about BSI's new
'online' service which will allow
I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm (and/or add to) the following,
which is my understanding of the application of the various classes of
supression capacitor:
X2 -suitable for applications where the supply is connected directly
across the capacitor but the appliance is not
This topic was the subject of some discussion last month, and I said I
would post the details of any reply I received to my enquiry made of the UK
Health and Safety Executive.
I have today received a fax from the specialist inspector dealing with this
matter (as well as a friendly telephone
It is my understanding that the protection requirements apply, and it is
also necessary for the technical documentation to be available, but that it
is not necessary to actually put the logo on the product or prepare a D of
C.
I have a liaison committee minute from HSE which appears to state, in
Dealing with these queries in reverse order
The EC DGIII lists of standards on the web at
http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/reflist.ht
ml
seem to be kept up-to-date, and since they include the number of the OJ in
which the standard was published this
There's no exclusion to the use of PVC in EU kitchens, although rubberised
cables are required for some outdoor type applications. Where the standard
is specific, the cord types permitted are specified in the Particular
Requirements relevant to the appliance type.
rgds
Nick.
At 14:19 -0400
The requirements of the main LVD standards are not consistent.
In EN60065 and EN61010-1, there is no requirement for marking anything
other than the earth terminal.
In EN60335-1, EN60950 and EN60730-1 it depends on whether or not it is
possible to change the mains cord. If it is, both the earth
I take 'affixed' to mean the year in which the 'risk assessment' was done
and the product was first placed on the EU market.
Without doing a trawl through every directive to check the the point, I
would guess that those directives which do not require the year to be given
along with the CE logo
It could be argued that Nostrum are a competitor of Conformance, so you may
want to treat my comments with caution, but I would disagree most strongly
with what was said by them on this.
The only directive which REQUIRES appointment of a representative within
the EU is the Medical Devices
For standards under the LVD, go to:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/reflist.ht
ml
So far as I am aware, there is no one standard which is equivalent to
UL1951. EN60335 (household appliances), EN60730 (Electric controls) or
EN50165 (Electrical equipment of
Certification type documentation such as Declarations of Conformity can be
in any EU language. User documentation relating to safe use of the product
MUST be in the language(s) of the country in which the product is being
sold, although if the product has separate installation or maintainance
Bill,
What you have said does not actually contradict my own statement (and maybe
that wasn't your intention!).
One must not confuse the requirement to draw the instructions up in one of
the languages of the EU with that of then translating the instructions into
the other languages for each
I've been asked to look at a gadget which is intended for connection to the
SCART port on a TV or VCR. The gadget in question is powered via a plug-top
transformer, which we can specify to be SELV output.
My question relates to the specification of the SCART port which is, I
guess, a standard
The European Economic Area (EEA) includes the fifteen member states of the
European Union (EU):
* Austria
* Belgium
* Denmark
* Finland
* France
* Germany
* Greece
* Ireland
* Italy
* Luxembourg
* Netherlands
* Portugal
*
There's a basic summary at
http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/ce_pressure.html
although 'basic' is the operative word. I will be updating this in the next
few weeks (other commitments permitting!)
Key thing you need to know are:
*it doesn't come into force until the end of November this
Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread so far.
At 09:20 +0100 29/4/99, Colgan, Chris chris.col...@tagmclarenaudio.com wrote:
EN60065:1994 is due to be withdrawn on 1/5/00 and replaced by EN60065:1998
which is published this year. The 1998 version is entitled Audio, video
and similar
My copy of BSI's World Electricity Supplies says that Australia is 240V +/- 6%.
Funnily enough, this information is not given in DOING BUSINESS IN
AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND: CONFORMITY ASSESSMENT- A Guide for EU
Designating Authorities, EU Conformity Assessment Bodies and European
Industry which
I've been asked to give an opinion on an intruder alarm bell box. EN
guidance (CENELEC report R079-001:1998) indicates that either EN60950 or
EN60065 may be appropriate for safety, and sooner or later I'll have to
make my own mind up as to which to choose. However, if there's anyone out
there
1. The Recreational Craft Directive contains no requirements for fire
extinguishers other than to require boat manufacturers to designate the
specification and location of extinguishers to be fitted. This means you
still have to comply with differering local regulations in each state you
intend to
Apologies if someone has already posted this.
Readers may be interested to know that a comprehensive and up-to-date list
of European EMC standards was published in the Official Journal (C series)
on 27 February 99.
The text can be downloaded from
http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/oj/
Note
Having asked this question of Trading Standards officers on several
occasions (for various reasons), I am here to tell you that, in the UK at
least, there is no legal obligation to put the country of manufacture on
any goods, whether made in the UK, EU, USA or anywhere else. However, if
you do put
Speaking from a European perspective, there is no international (EC-wide)
legislation which covers this point and it is a matter for national
legislation (although be wary of the requirements of the EC toy safety
directive). In the UK, for instance, there is no statute enforcing such
labelling or
Can anyone give me some guidance on the requirements for machine safety in
India, please?
Nick.
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AFAIK Saudi is a restricted regime, in that certain classes of products
have to be approved prior to introduction to the marketplace. The Saudi
government have subcontracted responsibility for this to Intertek (formerly
Inchcape) so you will need to talk to them to get anywhere.
(My info on this
I am working from the EN implementation of the published standard
(BSEN60335-1:1995, including amendments 8913 (oct 95) 9475 (may 97) and
10168 (jan 99). According to anex NA, which lists the differences between
the BS document and the IEC original, CISPR 11 and CISPR 14 were
mentioned in the
Readers may be interested to know that the IEC committee responsible for
IEC60335 have proposed an addition to section 19 of IEC60335-1 which will
incorporate EMC performance tests into the standard for the first time.
For those not completely familiar it, IEC60335-1 is the general requirement
Richard, I have a lot of sympathy with the advice you gave to Maria, but
there are some problems with what you wrote in your message yesterday:
SNIP
For the purposes of the LVD, I suggest you consider
that your product and the wall adapter are two,
independent products, an electronic keyboard,
Since it won't ever be DGIII who come knocking on your door asking to see
the paperwork, I know who I'd concentrate on keeping happy as a first
priority!
Nick.
Since the UK law, as interpreted below by Nick, says that the DoC must be
signed by a resident of the EU, and since the DG who
Some of what has been said about this topic has been very confused. I'd
like to make a few points:
1. Except where (as, for example, in the case of the UK Medical Devices
Regulations) the implementing regulations of the member states simply call
up the wording of the relevant EC text, the
EN60335-2-30:1992 section 11.8 modifies table 3 of EN60335-1:1995 as follows:
Heaters for mounting at high levels and no limit
fire guards and their immediate surrounds:
Air outlet grilles and their immediate surrounds, if of metal and which are
acessible to the test rod (notes 1, 2)
Try
http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/CELOGO/ce_logo.html.
where you'll find the logo in a dozen or so different formats. I'd be
interested to know if it helps you out.
Nick.
Greetings:
I am looking for a source for a scaleable (bitmap or equivalent)
CE
Hope this helps to clarify things:
1. 98/37/EC is a consolidating directive which is intended only to make
clearer what the requirements of 89/392/EEC as amended by 91/368/EEC,
93/44/EEC 93/68/EEC actually are.
2. I havn't had time to check this, but I think I am correct that 98/37/EC
is only
I'm not quite clear what you mean by 'best in class' but I'm happy to tell
you about our practice for rating plates, warning labels etc.
The procedure depends to some extent on product volumes - clients' needs
vary from a requirement for less than ten labels, each uniquely serial
numbered to many
Can anyone give me some basic information (or pointers to basic
information) on the requirements for importing machinery into Mexico?.
I'm interested both in the legal requirements which are supposed to apply
and in the actual realities of the situation.
Any help appreciated - and favours stored
European Directive 91/338/EEC banned the use of cadmium as a pigment,
coating or stabiliser in paints and plastics.
In essence the problem is one for plastics and paints feedstock
manufacturers rather than end users and so far as I am aware, no commonly
used platics from reputable (i.e. EU or
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