Re: Flicker and dmax Changes Caused by Manual Switching

2005-07-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
rehel...@mmm.com wrote (in ofefc4ebef.fb758794-on8625704c.00320d69-8625704c.0032b...@mmm.com) about 'Flicker and dmax Changes Caused by Manual Switching', on Thu, 28 Jul 2005: I have the standard and use a reference impedance of said ohms. Is all that is required is that you have the same

RE: Job Opening at Cape Canaveral

2005-07-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Missile Pilot? From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Chris Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:11 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Cc: Bob Sperling Subject: Job Opening at Cape Canaveral I’m almost afraid to make this posting. I’m worried

Flicker and dmax Changes Caused by Manual Switching

2005-07-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Is there value to this test if you are powering your equipment from a separate power source and not directly from the power lines? In our lab (US) we get our 230 vac, 50 Hz from a separate power generator and line conditioner that I suspect has different regulation then the public lines. The dmax

Job Opening at Cape Canaveral

2005-07-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I’m almost afraid to make this posting. I’m worried that I’m going to get hammered with replies…I mean…it’s aerospace engineering baby! Oddly, even though I’m an EMC guy with some of those geeky, space-loving tendencies…it’s not my cup of tea. So, I’m passing this along to the group. A

Re: Tri rated cable

2005-06-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi all. There's no mystery here. The three 'Ratings' relate to: BS 6231, cable for control systems UL AWM, Appliance Wiring Material CSA TEW Thermoplastic Equipment Wire. Cheers, Chris Dupres |-+ | | Fred Townsend| | |

ROHS Directive

2005-06-01 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
All Does anyone know where I can find a definitive list of substances whose use is restricted by the ROHS directive? Ian Gordon *** The information contained in this email and any attachments may be confidential and is provided

ESD Worldwide Standards

2005-06-01 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Colleagues, I am trying to create a Company ESD Standard that will cover worldwide commercial requirements (non-military). However, I know of only one i.e. the IEC EN 61000-4-2. The North American ANSI-C63.16:1993 seems based on the European version and is not a Standard but only a Guide.

product safety requirements in Australia, New South Wales

2005-06-01 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hello, I want to know about legal requirements in Australia. In Australia, especially in New South Wales, is there any regulations such as requirements for third-party safety approvals, marking requirements, etc. for products other than those explicitly covered by the the Fair Trading Act? At

RE: PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
the laminates the traces deduct from the prepreg laminate, not the base laminate. Generally 1 ounce of copper is 1.4 mils thick. -doug Doug Powell, Staff Engineer Corporate Compliance Dept. Advanced Energy Industries Inc. _ From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc

EN 61326 Deviation

2005-05-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Table 2 of EN 61326-1:1997 states if you cannot meet Criteria A, you can fall back on Criteria B or C provided that both the (product) specification and test report highlight such deviation for the relevant combination of function and test. Given Industrial data logger, 61000-4-3 requires 10v/m,

RE: RFID approval(s) required?

2005-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
to Certification for FCC Part 15, Industry Canada RSS-210 EN 300-330 currently in the EU. Bill Stumpf D.L.S. Electronics 166 South Carter Street Genoa City WI 53128 bstu...@dlsemc.com phone: 262.279.0210 From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ron

RE: RFID approval(s) required?

2005-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ron, Yes, these devices are subject to Certification for FCC Part 15, Industry Canada RSS-210 EN 300-330 currently in the EU. Bill Stumpf D.L.S. Electronics 166 South Carter Street Genoa City WI 53128 bstu...@dlsemc.com phone: 262.279.0210 From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org

Re: RFID approval(s) required?

2005-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ron, You are correct. You will have to locate a TCB and acquire FCC certification, because it is an intentional radiator. Regards, Josh Ron Pickard wrote: To all, There's been some conversation here about RFID and its possibilities. If RFID becomes a reality here, I will need to know if

New version of IEC 17025

2005-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
All Does anyone know what has changed between the 2000 and 2005 versions of ISO 17025? http://domino.iec.ch/preview/info_isoiec17025%7Bed2.0%7Den.pdf Ian Gordon *** The information contained in this email and any attachments may

2031 Marconi Signal Generator Manual

2005-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi, Who was looking for a manual for the model 2031 as I have found a copy. Please respond directly back to me. Regards Tony Reynolds Product Safety and Compliance Manager Marconi E: tony.reyno...@marconi.com -- - This message

RFID approval(s) required?

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
To all, There's been some conversation here about RFID and its possibilities. If RFID becomes a reality here, I will need to know if devices with RFID capability are required to be certified/declared against FCC Part 15, EU and/or other EMC standard, particularly such devices operating at

RE: Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
OK. I was really just trying to inject some humor here. Really! Darrell From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:51 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Lirpa Locke, Darrell dlo...@advanced

Re: Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Locke, Darrell dlo...@advanced-input.com wrote (in 7c9c8bbe838de040b781a55cd6d3fbc2168...@ms-cda-02.advanced-input.com) about 'Lirpa', on Thu, 26 May 2005: Has anyone here heard of the Lirpa 1 wireless cable? I'm skeptical.4.1 miles tx/rx? Skeptical? Gullible! (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate,

RE: Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I'll second that motion. Ghery From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Doug Beckwith Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:35 PM To: Roman, Dan; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Lirpa The new FCC label is priceless. I think the FCC should adopt

RE: Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
The new FCC label is priceless. I think the FCC should adopt it. Doug --- Roman, Dan dan.ro...@intel.com wrote: Read the April Fool's heading toward the bottom of the page at http://www.bstock.com/ Dan From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org

Re: Position Open - Product Safety Engineer

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
If you are responding to this job posting for Product Safety Engineer, please forward your replies to: emcp...@yahoo.com Regards --- Alpha Beta emcp...@yahoo.com wrote: Established company in San Jose looking for Product Safety Engineer at a mid-to-senior experience level with ITE

RE: Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Read the April Fool's heading toward the bottom of the page at http://www.bstock.com/ Dan _ From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Locke, Darrell Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:45 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Lirpa Has

off topic automotive standard question

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
All I have jury-rigged grandma’s oven to run a HALT test for one of our readers. Is there a public domain automotive standard that I can access so I can find a reference temperature to run the test at? Regards Dan Anchondo

Re: Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Lirpa 1, read backwards = 1 April April fool to you! Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA Locke, Darrell dlo...@advanced-input.com wrote on 05/26/2005 09:45:07 AM: Has anyone here heard of the Lirpa 1 wireless cable? I’m skeptical. 4.1 miles tx/rx?

Lirpa

2005-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Has anyone here heard of the Lirpa 1 wireless cable? I’m skeptical. 4.1 miles tx/rx? http://www.bstock.com/Lirpa1.htm Sincerely Darrell Locke Advanced Input Systems Coeur d’Alene Idaho This message is from the

Re: PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Joe/John Oh yes I do! by running a reference plane through the PCB I have accomplished impressive results. The ground is running through all my PCBs inbetween ALL the isolated sections. I have so far: 6KV surge withstand on power supply and metering inputs (Voltage and current on power

Re: PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
On 5/25/2005, John Barnes wrote: Do you HAVE to have the groundplane in the area that requires the hi-pot test? Hi Chris: I agree with John that it is best to avoid having your ground and high voltage circuits overlap. The basic approach that John described is typically used in modems and

Re: RF Modulator

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
What radio frequency range? I have a PIN diode modulator schematic. From: lfresea...@aol.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:56:34 EDT To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RF Modulator Hi folks, The company I contract with, Schaffner, made a little box that went

RE: 60127 fuse data

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
EN60127-3 should be EN60127-2 (The error was within my published measurement uncertainty.) luck, Brian -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:29 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: 60127 fuse data Good people EN60127-3 does not

RF Modulator

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi folks, The company I contract with, Schaffner, made a little box that went on the output of a signal source to turn it on and off to sumulate pulse modulation. It had a model number CPM 9830. Does anyone have one lying around surplus to requiments? Or something of a similar function? I'm

60127 fuse data

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Good people EN60127-3 does not have standard sheets for Medium-acting fuses. Two mfrs' type M fuses, both certified to EN60127-2:2003 by VDE, have different I-T curves. So how can I determine which mfr has the correct performance (in accordance with the standard) ? Previously had thought this

Re: PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Thanks Chris for the detailed and useful response! I did some research yesterday and found that I can do the following at our board house Layer 1 = Component 3 X Pre-preg = ~.013 (layers most likely .003, .007, .003) Layer 2 = Ground layer 3 X Pre-preg = ~.028 = Core Layer3 = Circuit layer 3 X

Looking for a PSE in NY metro area for employment video]

2005-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
The following is looking for a PSE to participate in an interview for a Labor Department video. Bob Johnson Subject:Dept of Labor career video - Product Safety Engineers List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:38:13 -0400 From: Liz Newell lnew...@awptv.com

Position Open - Product Safety Engineer

2005-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Established company in San Jose looking for Product Safety Engineer at a mid-to-senior experience level with ITE equipment. Looking to hire quickly. Description below. Please reply if interested. All replies kept confidential. Regards Job Description: Participates on a project team of

Free electrical engineering technical support links

2005-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi All, We recently updated our web site to include some additional technical support links relating to use and application of electronic test equipment. Anyone who uses electronic test equipment like oscilloscopes, network analyzers, spectrum analyzers, from Agilent, Tektronix, Anritsu,

Re: PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
While I don't think we have seen hipot failures between traces separated by a pre-preg layer, we have certainly seen failures during IEEE C37.90.1 Surge Withstand Capability test (transient waveform up to 5 kV). This has been on 4 layer boards. As a result, we always make sure that we have at

RoHS / WEEE / FW: Commission Guidance Document

2005-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Forwarding with Bob's permission. From: Robert Straetz [mailto:robert_stra...@ita.doc.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:19 AM To: jim.bac...@paxar.com Subject: Fwd: Commission Guidance Document Jim, Thanks very much for your note. I will look at those websites you sent me. Here's a

RE: PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Chris, NOTE, I’m going to say “FR4”; but you can substitute whatever PCB laminate you’re using…Nelco…whatever Once you figure out the material (i.e. FR4) that you are using, you can look up it’s dielectric strength to give you a ballpark of minimum

PCB inner plane spacing for high pot withstand

2005-05-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
How far apart must two planes, within a PCB be apart to safely sustain 2500VAC/1 min or 3600VAC/1min between them? I am designing to IEC61010-1 and this topic is not detailed so I am looking for practical references. If there are some related standards that would be good too. The PCB in question

Discussions on Communities

2005-05-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Reminder to check the emc-pstc community site once in a while, as there are discussion on it as well. Below is a question that Maxi has asked on the community site. The web address is: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Dear All, Thanks for your comments. Let me have a conclution of

SV: New Automotive EMC Directive (2004/104/EC)

2005-05-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Tlf.: 48 18 35 66 Fax: 48 18 35 30 Mobil: 22 99 69 91 E-mail: k...@bolls.dk web: www.bolls.dk Fra: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]Pa vegne af Jim Eichner Sendt: 19. maj 2005 01:55 Til: EMC-PSTC - Forum Emne: New Automotive EMC Directive (2004/104/EC

Re: New Automotive EMC Directive (2004/104/EC)

2005-05-20 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Jim, I attended a presentation on the topic at February's TCB Council meeting. After the presentation (and reading the directive), here is my understanding: 1) Your interpretation is correct. and 2) the Directive applies to products permanently affixed (need tools to install/uninstall) 3) the

Re: Earthed and Non-earthed products

2005-05-20 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Alex: If a product (product + external non-earthed double insulated power supply) has been approved for Safety based on the Double Insulation method, what would be the possible Safety, or any other, consequences if: 1. It was decided to earth the COM ports on the product either

Earthed and Non-earthed products

2005-05-20 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Guys, I have been too busy lately to thank all the individuals who have kindly answered some of my recent queries so ...THANKS TO YOU ALL! It is very much appreciated. If a product (product + external non-earthed double insulated power supply) has been approved for Safety based on the Double

RE: question concerning EMC directive: old standard is superseded by new standard

2005-05-20 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
_ From: jan.vercamm...@agfa.com [mailto:jan.vercamm...@agfa.com] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: question concerning EMC directive: old standard is superseded by new standard EMC-pstc-list, A slightly of topic question. I have a question

Re: question concerning EMC directive: old standard is superseded by new standard

2005-05-20 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
MIL-STD-810 is general environmental, and MIL-STD-461 is EMI for all DoD acquisitions. Current releases of both these standards are available for download at: http://stinet.dtic.mil/str/dodiss4_fields.html From: jan.vercamm...@agfa.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Fri, 20 May

question concerning EMC directive: old standard is superseded by new standard

2005-05-20 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
EMC-pstc-list, A slightly of topic question. I have a question concerning MIL-STD for military vessels (ships), are there specific standards for vibration and shock? And what about EMC? Kind regards, Jan Vercammen EMC engineer

RE: battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I fly, I doubt that this would be an issue. An interesting question. Ghery S. Pettit -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of George Stults Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:43 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
on the planes I fly, I doubt that this would be an issue. An interesting question. Ghery S. Pettit -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of George Stults Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:43 AM To: emc-p

RE: battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
flashlight as defined in the aviation world - Flashlight. A metal or plastic tube used for storing dead batteries. ;-) Ghery Pettit From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Doug Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:27 PM To: Ken Javor Cc: emc-p

RE: battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Sounds like if you don't use it for a while it become just another flashlight as defined in the aviation world - Flashlight. A metal or plastic tube used for storing dead batteries. ;-) Ghery Pettit From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf

Northeast Product Safety Society Member Dinner Meeting Next Wednesday, May 25, 2005

2005-05-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hello, You are invited to the Northeast Product Safety Society’s 17th annual membership dinner featuring keynote speaker Casey Conry of Intertek, ETL SEMKO, discussing the FDA Accredited Persons Program. The dinner will be held next Wednesday, May 25th, at the Holiday Inn in Marlborough, MA. If

Re: battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Ken and the group, I have a flashlight like this. It seems like you have to charge it every now and then by shaking it. If you let go for a year or so without shaking, it does not work, just brief pulses of light as the magnet passes through the coil..the storage capacitor/battery goes

New Automotive EMC Directive (2004/104/EC)

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I'd like to test my understanding of how the new Automotive EMC Directive is to be interpreted with regards to electronic-subassemblies (ESA's) that are unrelated to vehicle safety, what the relationship is to the EMC Directive, and how those questions differ between the old and new Automotive

Re: battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
RTCA/DO-160 (Environmental Conditions or Aircraft) has a requirement to measure the compass-safe distance. That would seem to be the main issue. As far as I know, RTCA/DO-160 applies equally to commercial transport and general aviation aircraft. From: George Stults george.stu...@watchguard.com

battery free flashlight for pilots...

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Folks, I have a safety/regulatory question, but I need to explain a bit. I recently noticed a Battery-free Flashlight offered for sale in a magazine that sells various products for pilots. You can see the product by going to http://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/ and searching on 3173A. The add

Re: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote on 05/17/2005 05:21:40 PM: Hi David: In the past I believed that only 2 States actually required UL product approval for import. Is this correct, and if so in which 2 States is UL mandatory? Except for wine, there is no restriction on trade among

Re: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi John: That may be true for equipment used in the work place and for installation in commercial and new constructions where an AHJ will inspect the building but is this really true for consumer products where someone buys an electronic product from the store brings it home and

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
.Not a complete victory but a nice start!! http://www.winebusiness.com/news/DailyNewsArticle.cfm?dataid=37850 Best regards, John From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Rich Nute Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:22 PM To: David Greig Cc: emc-p

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Does any one know the current status of how battery operated products are affected by the NRTL requirements? I did notice a power tool I bought lately has a NRTL mark on it, but my cell phone does not. In both cases the power adapters/chargers are NRTL'd. At one time I understood that at least

Indian ROHS WEEE ?

2005-05-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear Colleagues: Has anyone got any information on the progress or likelihood of any RoHS/WEEE type legislation or other requirements, for equipment exported to the Indian sub-continent? I understand that the Indian government generally follows the European model for safety EMC, but I have no

Re: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi David: In the past I believed that only 2 States actually required UL product approval for import. Is this correct, and if so in which 2 States is UL mandatory? Except for wine, there is no restriction on trade among and between the states. :-) In the USA, there are two sets of

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
. From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Josh Wiseman Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:40 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: UL Approval in different States David, The only 2 I remember are LA county, which I

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Carolina and Oregon for the purpose of getting accredited.. From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Peter L. Tarver Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:39 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: UL Approval in different States Brian - It is within

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Brian - It is within state's rights to run their own laboratory accreditation programs, which is what I was referring to. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org From: Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:36 AM It is not within states' rights to regulate/accredit labs

RE: New IEC 61010 edition?

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Camille and all, The IEC system is built upon regular review and updating (or reconfirmation) of their standards. The cycle for review is established when any standard is issued (commonly 5 years, but primarily up to the committee responsible for the document). The intervening period is

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
within the state. Typically, local code in America is based on NFPA requirements, so there is somewhat uniform electrical and fire safety code across this diverse experiment... luck, Brian -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p

Re: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
David, The only 2 I remember are LA county, which I recall has since changed the law and Chicago Metro area and I think this is no longer enforced. Josh Peter L. Tarver wrote: David - Brian O'Connell is correct that no safety agency certification requirements exist for importation into

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
David - Brian O'Connell is correct that no safety agency certification requirements exist for importation into any of the individual states, or for that matter, the US as a whole. Of equal interest is that, where states have regulations related to the sale of goods and require an NRTL

RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
to retreat back into their bureaucratic hole when federal statutes are put in front of their beady little eyes. Nothing I say or do represents the opinion or policies of my employer, my wife, my dog, or my cat. luck, Brian From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p

RE: question on FCC Part 15 for aircraft equipment

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
_ From: shbe...@rockwellcollins.com [mailto:shbe...@rockwellcollins.com] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:37 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: question on FCC Part 15 for aircraft equipment I am very familiar with DO-160, but would like to talk to someone knowledgeable about FCC Part

RE: NSA measurements with broadband bi-log antennas

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Tried once with bilogs and had problems. We ended up to use bicons at 30-200 MHz and bilogs above that. However, we did not investigate the subject further so I cannot say that it would never work... Ari From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf

RE: New IEC 61010 edition?

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Camille, I don't know anything about the reasoning but I do see that IEC61010-1 third edition is well along = you can see work in progress on IEC standards at the IEC web site (www.iec.ch) = search for this standard = when the list of search results comes up, double click on the second (current)

NSA measurements with broadband bi-log antennas

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Welcome all.   I'm considering to use two broadband bi-log antennas to NSA measurements in 3m semi-anechoic chamber in near future. The type of antennas is SAS-521-4 from AH Systems. Length of antenna is about 1m. But I'm worried about this dimension. The smallest elements of these antennas

UL Approval in different States

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
In the past I believed that only 2 States actually required UL product approval for import. Is this correct, and if so in which 2 States is UL mandatory? My specific interest at the moment is for PCB's, and relates both to UL746F and UL796F. Best Regards David Greig

RE: GSM Product, EMC Costs

2005-05-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
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New IEC 61010 edition?

2005-05-16 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear Colleagues: I was told recently by someone who works in a North American regulatory agency that IEC 61010 2nd edition has been such a pain to deal with and has had so many issues with interpretation that there is already a draft 3rd edition being worked on. I know that there have been a

question on FCC Part 15 for aircraft equipment

2005-05-16 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I am very familiar with DO-160, but would like to talk to someone knowledgeable about FCC Part 15 testing for aircraft equipment. Could someone contact me directly be either email or phone? Thanks, Susan Beard 321-768-7446 This

RE: Conformal coating UL Recognized to meet 60950 requirements

2005-05-16 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
about your use of any CC material that has not received recognition IAW UL94 and UL746E. luck, Brian -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Roman, Dan Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:27 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org

GSM Product, EMC Costs

2005-05-16 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Colleagues, If I get my GSM product tested and certified to EN 301 489-1/-7 do I also need to get EN55022, EN55024, EN 61000-3-2? It does have additional wired ports i.e PSTN, USB and RS232. THANKS in advance! Thank You and Best Regards Alex

Conformal coating UL Recognized to meet 60950 requirements

2005-05-16 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Can anyone recommend a conformal coating that is already UL Recognized and has been tested to meet the UL60950-1 requirements in clause 2.10.6 by the manufacturer? I have a need for a conformal coating and want to avoid the long thermal cycling. There is no way to tell from the UL listing of

Re: IEEE EMC MiniSymposium, Tuesday, May 17, Itasca, IL (Near Chicago)

2005-05-16 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Tuesday is our annual IEEE EMC MiniSymposium, at the Itasca, Illinois Holiday Inn. As the Chairman of this event, I want to announce to the EMC Community that we have a great program planned. In addition, we have filled the tabletops with 22 vendors. Here is the URL for the MiniSymposium.

Re: ESD HBM contact pad to pad testing.

2005-05-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
john.radom...@modicon.com wrote (in OFB02BEC92.AFF10067-ON85256FFC.00474854-85256FFC.004907C3@US.Schneider-E lectric.com) about 'ESD HBM contact pad to pad testing.', on Mon, 9 May 2005: Take a look at industry standards. As I remember from my years I spent in the semiconductor industry, JEDEC

Job Openings

2005-05-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Compliance Certification Services has openings for experienced EMC / Wireless Test Engineers. EMC / WIRELESS TEST POSITION: Must be familiar with FCC, EN, ETSI and other international regulatory standards. Must be familiar with EMC test procedures. Must be familiar with Wireless Radio test

RE: Cost of RoHS compliant components

2005-05-14 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
the RoHS compliant parts. In this case, it will pay to use RoHS compliant parts, even if your product is exempt from RoHS. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer Nettest -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Piotr

Re: Production ESD Test

2005-05-13 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
WHAT ? ! ! NEVER do Production testing using uncontrolled parameters! Else, you will decrease the life of your product - garranteed. Example, Marketing in their fervor to deliver product once shipped all the modules we had used for ESD testing [This was a robust telco product and had to

RE: Cost of RoHS compliant components

2005-05-12 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
. In this case, it will pay to use RoHS compliant parts, even if your product is exempt from RoHS. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer Nettest From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Piotr Galka Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:22 PM To: EMC-PSTC

EMC Engineering position

2005-05-12 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
FYI - Motorola in Plantation, FL has a EMC engineering position open. I understand there is no relocation package available. Contact Deanna Zakharia at 954-723-4707 Stephen C. Whalen Sr. Staff EME Engineer G E Mobility Solutions Motorola

Re: Cost of RoHS compliant components

2005-05-12 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ian, A month or two ago, I was looking for some standard components at ON Semiconductor. I have seen the same element in standard and Pb free versions in exactly the same price. Piotr Galka From: iun...@servomex.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Cost of

EMC Management Job Opportunities

2005-05-12 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I have 2 opportunities that you can view at www.tieronesearch.com Mark Thibodeau Managing Consultant - Automotive Tier One Executive Search 866-850-0001, 1-519-254-6449 www.tieronesearch.com http://www.autointell.com

Cost of RoHS compliant components

2005-05-12 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear Group, We have recently heard rumours that the costs of RoHS compliant components may be greater than the non-compliant versions? Are any correspondents out there able to confirm this and provide some form of general indication as to what the increases may be for 'typical' components and

Marconi 2031 Manual

2005-05-12 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Does anybody in the group have a manual for a Marconi 2031 Signal Generator. I would like a copy if possible. best regards Russ Beattie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: Programming the HP 8591EM

2005-05-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Julian, There is a seperate manual for option 103, HP part number 5961-0433. I could not find a copy of this on their website, but I have access to a copy. There is a programming example in HPBasic that I will email you when I get a chance. Bob Richards, Square D. --- Julian Jones

Programming the HP 8591EM

2005-05-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I am hoping someone can help us. We are trying to program the 8591 to be ATE. Programming is working fine, but we cannot turn on the Quasi Peak function. i.e. DEMOD. Has anyone done this ? can you send me the syntax. I have the softcopy manual but it does not work. DEMOD ON; DEMOD QPD the

DOW for North American Standards

2005-05-11 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dera All, Does anyone know of a website available to designers and lists the DOW of North American standards? There is a europa website available to the public whcih lists European standards and their DOWs but I was unable to find a similar website for North America. Thanks, Peter _

Re: Conductive spray

2005-05-10 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Kevin I recommend using paint from Spraylat Corporation in New York. 914-699-3030. Call them and maybe they can give you samples. Regards, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

Re: IEEE EMC MiniSymposium, Tuesday, May 17, Itasca, IL (Near Chicago)

2005-05-10 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Next week Tuesday is our annual IEEE EMC MiniSymposium. It is.at the Itasca, Illinois (near Chicago) Holiday Inn. As the Chairman of this event, I want to announce to the EMC Community that we have a great program planned. In addition, we have filled the tabletops with 21 vendors. Here is

Conductive spray

2005-05-10 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Folks, I am looking to purchase a small can of conductive paint spray to do some experiment with a plastic enclosure for EMI purposes. Does anyone know where I can get such spray? p/n or manufacturer would be appreciated. thanks Kevin __ Do You

Re: Production ESD Test

2005-05-10 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I have never heard of a production line ESD test. One might guess OSHA might be all over such a test since the safety requirements are very different between the test lab and the production line. As a consultant I learned a long time ago that ESD and EMI susceptibility problems often go hand in

Re: Production ESD Test

2005-05-10 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
testing. If a failure occurs, redesign the product to withstand it, and retest at a higher level. Pat Alex McNeil alex.mcn...@ingenico.co.uk Sent by: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org 05/10/2005 03:25 AM To:emc-p...@ieee.org cc

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