Gregory
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1. Clearances for US Safety:
I'd cite the relevant standards, but they are so alike (identical Clearance
tables), and so alike to UL 508, I'll defer
,
Rich
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1. Clearances for US Safety:
I'd cite the relevant standards, but they are so alike (identical
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1. Clearances for US Safety:
I'd cite the relevant standards, but they are so alike (identical Clearance
tables), and so alike to UL
1. Clearances for US Safety: I'd cite the relevant standards, but they are
so alike (identical Clearance tables), and so alike to UL 508, I'll defer.
Here's the question: When citing clearance spacing from "uninsulated live
components" does one measure from the edg
UK has published draft legislation to allow continued acceptance of CE Marking
past the end of 2024 in the "The Product Safety and Metrology etc. (Amendment)
Regulations 2024" along with an explanatory memorandum.
The law is due to come into force on 1st October ahead of the current 31
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How 'long past'? Do any of these standards, or the test certificates associated
with them, specif
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For those who use IEC 60335. here is a superficial (and non-technical) look.
https://etech.iec.ch/issue/2024-01/household-safety-in-the-internet-era
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There is an article here on the new European safety law:
https://digital.incompliancemag.com/issue/november-2023/
On 2023-11-02 10:24, Glyn Payne wrote:
There is always the RoHS Directive that demands the CE Mark even if no
other Directives apply.
Glyn Payne
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There is always the RoHS Directive that demands the CE Mark even if no other
Directives apply.
Glyn Payne
From: John Woodgate
Sent: 01 November 2023 20:20
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Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)
Somewhere in all
Hi Amund,
Apart from EMC, RoHS is likely to apply as well.
If the product is out of scope of the LVD, that just means that you are out of
the harmonized area but will still be in scope of the national safety
regulations.
In the end, your product will have to meet the corresponding product
Thanks, Ted,
I fully support your comments.
BR
Amund
Fra: John Woodgate
Sendt: 1. november 2023 20:01
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Emne: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)
Precisely. It's utter folly not to carry out, and document, appropriate
inions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
reflect those of my employer.
From: Ralph McDiarmid
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)
I found that too, but isn’t th
Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)
Correct. Or more specifically -
https://single-market-economy.ec.europa.eu/single-market/ce-marking_en#:~:text=It%20is%20compulsory%20only%20for,origin%20of%20a%20product%20either.
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What is meant by “safety information on the Declaration of Conformity”? A DofC
contains a list of applicable EU directives and standards. I’ve never been
asked to draft a DofC for signature with “safety information” in it.
Furthermore, I have not found anything document which says that you
Precisely. It's utter folly not to carry out, and document, appropriate
safety tests.
On 2023-11-01 18:35, Ted Eckert wrote:
Hello Amund,
The GPSR is not a CE-marking Directive, and products that fall under
the GPSR can be placed on the market without safety information on the
Declaration
Hello Amund,
The GPSR is not a CE-marking Directive, and products that fall under the GPSR
can be placed on the market without safety information on the Declaration of
Conformity if they do not fall under any other Directive that requires a
declaration for safety. However, that is only related
legislation requires equipment used in the workplace to be safe,
so whether you could sell B2B equipment without any safety related tests would
need to be considered and in any case, reasons should be considered as part of
product compliance risk assessment
Best regards
Charlie
Charlie Blackham
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EMC apply.
Then the product could be put on the market without any safety related tests
.. Is that correct?
BR
Amund
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not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.
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From: Amund Westin
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)
General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret
General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret correct that GPSD only
apply to consumer products? Not for any professional products?
And the new General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) do the same?
BR
Amund
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" This incident serves to remind us that in our field of product safety, we
require the product to be safe even in the event of a failure of any single
component. "
Maybe better to claim "product safety compliant under any single-fault".
It's quite a reach and perhaps not
I suppose same can be said for any Google search done on the job site.
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Just a simple reminder, especially
erance.
I suspect that a large majority of aircraft incident reports are a result of
pilot error, nothing to do with the aircraft its avionics.
Ralph
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To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] safety un
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Here's what ChatGPT 3.5 says about fault-tolerance and general aviation
aircraft:
Fault-tolerance systems in general aviation aircraft can enhance safety, but
their inclusion is not mandatory for all such aircraft. The need
Here's what ChatGPT 3.5 says about fault-tolerance and general aviation
aircraft:
Fault-tolerance systems in general aviation aircraft can enhance safety, but
their inclusion is not mandatory for all such aircraft. The need for
fault-tolerance systems depends on several factors, including
Hello from Bend, Oregon:
On September 4, 2022, a plane carrying 10 people crashed into Puget Sound's
Mutiny Bay near Whidbey Island. The National Transportation Safety Board,
which investigated the crash, said Thursday that a single component of a
critical flight control system failed, causing
compatibility (EMC) - Part 6-7:
Generic standards - Immunity requirements for equipment intended to perform
functions in a safety-related system (functional safety) in industrial
locations.
That standard was developed by IEC/TC 77, and has never been revised. It is
approaching systematic review
Of course, I think we all understand, or at least I hope so, that
artificial intelligence cannot replace real humans in the world of product
safety engineering. My previous email was intended to jokingly point out
its shortcomings. And I had thought this would be obvious.
As for the future
.
From: Elliott Martinson
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 8:27 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for
safety
ChatGPT is not “artificial intelligence”. It’s a “word calculator” IMO and I
have a strong CS background.
From
vision related ISO standards for
safety
Hi all,
ChatGPT is NOT specifically designed for product safety purposes.
It can only give very general results, then it is the job of product safety
professionals to add the missing details.
In my work, I don't use ChatGPT, since it is not a tool de
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
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Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand.
Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-06-10 14:44, Vincent Lee wrote:
Hi all,
ChatGPT is NOT specifically designed for product safety purposes.
It can only give
Hi all,
ChatGPT is NOT specifically designed for product safety purposes.It can only
give very general results, then it is the job of product safety professionals
to add the missing details.
In my work, I don't use ChatGPT, since it is not a tool designed for product
safety which is a highly
; So how about using the text generator ChatGPT to write the standard draft?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck in Berkeley
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Vincent Lee <08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 202
;
>
>
> *From:* Vincent Lee <08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2023 7:05 PM
> *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO
> standards for safety
>
>
>
> [THIS EMA
for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for
safety
[THIS EMAIL IS FROM AN EXTERNAL SENDER]
Huff,
No national nor international is available yet.
AI is more closely related to computer science than product safety.
And who knows AI may experience another winter, since there were AI winter in
yet. Are there any recommendations for
international guidance.
Thanks,
David
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Hi David,
At the moment, only one machinery related standard even opens the door for AI
in functional safety systems: ISO 13849-1:2023. That standard only says that AI
“can be used,” but immediately goes on to say that no information on how to do
that or how to validate the results are given
Hi David:
If you are looking for product safety, I would say that product safety
should be independent of AI, or, indeed, of any software.
However, some new power distribution schemes involve "handshaking" (which is
software controlled) before power can be delivered. So, be
. Are there any recommendations for
international guidance.
Thanks,
David
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From: Scott Xe
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 3:09 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Safety shutters in BS 13A socket
BS 13A sockets
BS 13A sockets are designed with a safety shutter to prevent accidental
contact with live electrical contacts. According to the BS standard, the
shutters for the live (L) and neutral (N) apertures must block securely. Is
there any verification test available to ensure that the shutters for the L
this useful resource -
https://www.iec.ch/technical-committees-and-subcommittees#tclist
All the best
James
From: Dürrer Bernd
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Subject: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question -
earthing
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Hello James,
Thank you for providing this additional information and the sketch. My
conclusion that the handles are a class II construction was based on your
les are reliably earthed.
Kind regards,
Bernd
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Hi James,
Please find below some additional thoughts on the subject that have
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Kind regards,
Bernd
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be
actually touched, so also for these neighbouring conductive surfaces either
double or reinforced insulation is required.
Kind regards,
Bernd
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 11:23:03 +0100,
"James Pawson (U3C)" wrote:
> In running through some safety checks on a customer's product I've come
> across what appears to be a conflict between two clauses. This resulted in
> some head scratching! I'm sure it is my misundersta
Date: *Wed, 5 Apr 2023 07:41:02 -0600
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question -
> earthing (or not) of handles
>
> How exactly does one measure "likely" as in likely to touch? Is it a %age?
> Of course my question is tongue in cheek...
approaches to achieving the same goal.
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
From: "Grasso, Charles"
Reply-To: "Grasso, Charles"
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 07:41:02 -0600
To:
Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question - earthing
(or not) of handles
How exactly does
compliance.co.uk *
> --
>
> Hello experts,
>
>
>
> In running through some safety checks on a customer’s product I’ve come
> across what appears to be a conflict between two clauses. This resulted in
> some head scratching! I’m sure it is my misunderstanding or misreading,
Hello experts,
In running through some safety checks on a customer's product I've come
across what appears to be a conflict between two clauses. This resulted in
some head scratching! I'm sure it is my misunderstanding or misreading, but
I could do with some pointers in how to unpick
Hi everyone,
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Hello Rich,
Thank you, I had hoped you would see this email :)
I've ordered the Electrical Product Compliance and Safety Engineering book
you recommended and will start looking into the other references.
Much appreciated.
All the best
James
James Pawson
Managing Director
Hi James:
Understanding the basic physics and rationale of the safety standards
requires reverse engineering of the requirements. And an understanding of
the people (and their biases) that wrote the standard. Very difficult.
And, the safety standards are not necessarily
Hello experts,
My goal is to put together a reading and reference list of fundamental
standards that help me understand the basic physics and rationale behind the
requirements in safety standards (mainly EN 62368-1, EN 61010-1, EN
60335-1).
I've been finding a lot of useful references from
EN 62368-1 Ed 3 : 2020?
Thanks and regards,
Scott
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> enforcement date. Normally it will have a transitional period of 18 or 24
> months. Does it mean to take effect immediately without a transitional
> period from EN 62368-1 Ed2 : 2014 to EN 62368-1 Ed 3 : 2020?
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> S
ommission made a request to the
> European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization (‘Cenelec’) to draw
> up European standards for personal music players. On the basis of this
> request, Cenelec adopted standard EN IEC 62368-1:2020 on ‘Audio/video,
> information and communicatio
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From: Scott Xe
Sent: 20 August 2022 16:51
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes
Dan,
It appears to me that Bosch's products are well designed and made in general
and agree to have high
Bikes
>
>
>
> Ted Eckert
>
> The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of
> my employer.
>
>
>
> *From:* Douglas E Powell
> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2022 2:26 PM
> *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [P
gt;>> and certified so I am comfortable storing and charging it in my garage.
>>> Included a picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little
>>> blurry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I think there are definitely safety schemes available, but
My wife’s e-bike has a Bosch motor and battery and seems to be well made
> and certified so I am comfortable storing and charging it in my garage.
> Included a picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little
> blurry.
>
>
>
> So I think there are definitely safety s
expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.
From: Douglas E Powell
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 2:26 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes
All,
My Friday question is about storage/charging of e-scooters and e
;> Included a picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little
>> blurry.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I think there are definitely safety schemes available, but as with
>> everything, quality may vary from vendor to vendor. I would trust Bosch
>
Dear Doug,
For EU market, below safety regulations/standards are applicable to your
products.
· Toys Safety Directive 2009/48/EC
o EN 14619 : 2019
o EN 71
· Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC
o EN 12100-1 : 2010
· General Product Safety Directive 2001/95/EC / Low Voltage
tered in England and Wales, number 05466247
From: Brian Ceresney
Sent: 19 August 2022 00:22
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Country Requirements -EMC Safety
Hi Ryan, All.
After years in this predicament, I've defaulted to using the agencies to
research the requirements for
.
From: Ryan Jazz
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Hi Ryan,
I recommend joining IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society. You can tap into a
network of experienced compliance engineers (we cover more than just Safety).
You may want to consider attending one or more IEEE symposium.
This symposium is in San Diego and is coming up in September 20
requirement as it relates to EMC and
Safety requirements.
However I have not been successful-These requirements appear to be a mystery.
One would think if manufacturers are required to meet country requirements it
would be public knowledge.
I have checked trade.gov and other searches
Dear Members,
I am trying to create a list of country requirement as it relates to EMC and
Safety requirements.
However I have not been successful-These requirements appear to be a mystery.
One would think if manufacturers are required to meet country requirements it
would be public knowledge.
I
y garage.
> Included a picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little
> blurry.
>
>
>
> So I think there are definitely safety schemes available, but as with
> everything, quality may vary from vendor to vendor. I would trust Bosch
> over a vendor I never heard
For electric bikes there is EN 15194 which addresses safety including for
battery short circuits. I don’t see it listed in the EMCD OJ though, so I don’t
know if it has widespread use.
Thanks,
[cid:image976208.jpg@3976092F.7C633C81]
David Schaefer
Technical Manager
Element Materials
Doug/Scott,
My wife’s e-bike has a Bosch motor and battery and seems to be well made and
certified so I am comfortable storing and charging it in my garage. Included a
picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little blurry.
So I think there are definitely safety schemes
with rigid
safety requirements. Do not recommend buying unknown brand products in
this type of goods.
Regards,
Scott
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 05:27, Douglas E Powell wrote:
> All,
>
> My Friday question is about storage/charging of e-scooters and e-bikes. It
> seems that these days m
All,
My Friday question is about storage/charging of e-scooters and e-bikes. It
seems that these days more and more people are using these devices and fire
safety is a growing concern. It seems my news feed has a new instance
every few days. Some of these cases are very tragic outcomes
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Unless you are already an expert, this presentation could be helpful.
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2 6:04 PM Chuck August-McDowell wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> General question on NOM Mexico safety mark.
>
> I seem to be in annual renewal programs with three different labs,
>
> Does anyone know of a longer than one year NOM registration program
Hi,
General question on NOM Mexico safety mark.
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Engineering at
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Regards,
Ted
All,
I would like to know if anyone here has been certified for UL Functional
Safety Professional and are the benefits worthwhile considering the expense
and time? I have noted that there are several categories: automotive,
cybersecurity, electronic control systems, semiconductor, and machinery
ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety Compliance Testing: It's A Business, So Shop Around
I could not agree more. As a consultant, the best we can do is address the
obvious problems, the subtle ones that may exist with in an organization are
unlikely to be revealed during most consulting engagements
action in the future…….
>
> John E Allen
> W. London, UK
> From: Richard Nute mailto:ri...@ieee.org>>
> Sent: 15 October 2021 19:34
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Subject: [PSES] Safety Compliance Testing:
Allen
W. London, UK
From: James Pawson (U3C)
Sent: 18 October 2021 09:30
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety Compliance Testing: It's A Business, So Shop Around
Hello John,
These are excellent points. I was going to say that I’ve not come across
iance risk is inversely proportional to size of company, which makes
sense when you consider the mindset of someone starting a business vs an
established company with more to lose.
(Sidebar: There was a recent study
<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/safety-regulations-compliance-st
udy>
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