Re: [e-users] efl : make error

[Massimo Maiurana]

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 16/02/2017 alle 15:35:
> On 02/16/2017 02:16 PM, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
>> As Simon already said this is fixed in git master, so either build from
>> that or wait until 1.19 or 1.18.5 is released.
>>
>> An alternative is to use the configure option --with-crypto=gnutls.
>>
>> Bye
>> Massimo
>>
>>
> En français, diciamo :
> "Cela va sans dire.
> Mais encore mieux en le disant...".

I knew the first period, now I got even the last :)

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Re: [e-users] efl : make error

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 ^
> lib/emile/emile_image.c:1622:14: warning: variable ‘ptrag_free’ might be 
> clobbered by ‘longjmp’ or
> ‘vfork’ [-Wclobbered]
>  Eina_Bool ptrag_free = EINA_FALSE;
>^~
> lib/emile/emile_image.c:1623:14: warning: variable ‘r’ might be 
> clobbered by ‘longjmp’ or ‘vfork’
> -Wclobbered]
>  Eina_Bool r = EINA_FALSE;
>^
>CC   lib/eo/lib_eo_libeo_la-eo.lo
>CC   lib/eo/lib_eo_libeo_la-eo_ptr_indirection.lo
> lib/emile/emile_image.c: In function ‘_emile_jpeg_head’:
> lib/emile/emile_image.c:1359:27: warning: variable ‘opts’ might be 
> clobbered by ‘longjmp’ or ‘vfor
> ’ [-Wclobbered]
>  Emile_Image_Load_Opts *opts = NULL;
> ^~~~
> lib/emile/emile_image.c:1367:8: warning: variable ‘degree’ might be 
> clobbered by ‘longjmp’ or ‘vfor
> k’ [-Wclobbered]
>  int degree = 0;
>  ^~
> lib/emile/emile_image.c:1368:14: warning: variable ‘change_wh’ might be 
> clobbered by ‘longjmp’ or
> vfork’ [-Wclobbered]
>  Eina_Bool change_wh = EINA_FALSE;
>^
> lib/emile/emile_image.c:1000:8: warning: variable ‘orientation’ might be 
> clobbered by ‘longjmp’ or ‘vfork’ [-Wclobbered]
>  int orientation = -1;
>  ^~~
>CC   lib/eo/lib_eo_libeo_la-eo_base_class.lo
>CC   lib/eo/lib_eo_libeo_la-eo_class_class.lo
>CC   lib/eo/lib_eo_libeo_la-eo_add_fallback.lo
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_binbuf_cipher’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:90:19: error: storage size of ‘ctx’ 
> isn’t known
>  EVP_CIPHER_CTX ctx;
> ^~~
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:90:19: warning: unused variable ‘ctx’ 
> [-Wunused-variable]
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_binbuf_decipher’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:189:19: error: storage size of ‘ctx’ 
> isn’t known
>  EVP_CIPHER_CTX ctx;
> ^~~
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:189:19: warning: unused variable ‘ctx’ 
> [-Wunused-variable]
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_cipher_server_listen’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:298:10: warning: ‘TLSv1_server_method’ 
> is deprecated [-Wdeprecated-declarations]
>r->ssl_ctx = SSL_CTX_new(TLSv1_server_method());
>^
> In file included from /usr/include/openssl/ct.h:13:0,
>   from /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:61,
>   from lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:13:
> /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:1597:1: note: declared here
>   DEPRECATEDIN_1_1_0(__owur const SSL_METHOD *TLSv1_server_method(void)) 
> /* TLSv1.0 */
>   ^
>CC   lib/efl/interfaces/lib_efl_libefl_la-efl_interfaces_main.lo
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_cipher_server_connect’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:743:10: warning: ‘TLSv1_client_method’ 
> is deprecated [-Wdeprecated-declarations]
>r->ssl_ctx = SSL_CTX_new(TLSv1_client_method());
>^
> In file included from /usr/include/openssl/ct.h:13:0,
>   from /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:61,
>   from lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:13:
> /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:1598:1: note: declared here
>   DEPRECATEDIN_1_1_0(__owur const SSL_METHOD *TLSv1_client_method(void)) 
> /* TLSv1.0 */
>   ^
> Makefile:34079: recipe for target 
> 'lib/emile/lib_emile_libemile_la-emile_cipher_openssl.lo' failed
> make[4]: *** [lib/emile/lib_emile_libemile_la-emile_cipher_openssl.lo] 
> Error 1
> make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> Makefile:49589: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> Makefile:16713: recipe for target 'all' failed
> make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> Makefile:2957: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> Makefile:2054: recipe for target 'all' failed
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
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Re: [e-users] Graphics arch

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 14/02/2017 alle 01:36:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:15:05 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:
> 
>> I have a quite old notebook, it will find seven candles on the next
>> birthday cake and I'm afraid it will be time to buy a new one.
> 
> w... it still lives? how? has it basically had every part replaced? :)

Yeah, it lives thanks to a lightweight window manager that you know very
well ;)
And no, never replaced anything, only removed dust from the fan a couple
of times.

Thanks to you and Daniel, I think I'll stick to intel and keep amd as an
alternative.

Bye
Massimo

>> Regarding graphics, what would be the best bet for a linux user, and
>> more specifically for an E user? What is best supported by drivers?
>> For example, I currently have an old intel chip (gma 4500) that doesn't
>> work anymore in GL mode so I had to switch to software compositing, and
>> I'm worried that the integrated graphics in Intel Core i5 series
>> processors could give me some problems.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your hints :)
> 
> any intel chip since the first i3/5/7 gens will be just fine. sandybridge on 
> is
> perfectly fine for sure. some of the older intel gpu's were iffy. they kinda
> did almost all of oepngl2 but not all of it. but that was fixed. if you guy a
> new laptop today anything with an i3//5/i7 will be just fine. intel are not 
> the
> speediest of gpu's but they are perfectly adequate for 2d. they may begin to
> struggle with really high res (like multiple 4k montiors).
> 
> most intel gpu based systems often have limited muti-screen support. at least
> on motherboards often they have had eg hmdi and vga (so 1 digital, 1 analog)
> which would make it hard to decently run any high res off the vga. and if you
> wanted 3 screens it'd be a struggle. that may have improved now. i haven't
> tried intel on a desktop recently. but on laptops the intel gpus hum along
> nicely for a desktop even at high resolutions. they will begin to struggle 
> with
> games. if you don't play games (or only ones with simple graphics), then an
> intel gpu today is just fine. of course nvidia and amd will scale up much 
> more.
> for games nvidia will trounce the amd on linux, but the amd has open source
> drivers... at least for recent cards. though i have avoided amd for years 
> after
> the last time fglrx screwed me over...
> 
> so if you are going to get another laptop ... well i'd advise going for a pure
> intel-only one and you'll be just fine. if its a desktop - choose your
> motherboard carefully to get the outputs you want for the intel AND you can
> optionally also add a discrete gpu too...
> 
> for now though stick clear of nvidia if you want to do anything wayland
> related... :)
> 


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Re: [e-users] Menu inoperative after resume

[Massimo Maiurana]

Addendum:
Even lid close doesn't suspend anymore my laptop after a resume. But it
recognizes the event, because when I open lid again it is blank and I
have to do some keyboard/touchpad thing to unblank it.

Bye
Massimo

Daniel Kasak ha scritto il 05/02/2017 alle 00:58:
> I have slightly different symptoms, that may be related. I have a
> keybinding set up for suspending ( Win + S ). After suspending, I
> can't suspend via this keybinding ( or menu: System ==> Suspend ).
> Restarting E ( CTRL + Alt + End ) fixes things. It's a minor annoyance
> under X. It's more drastic under Wayland, as most of my apps get
> killed when I restart E.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> wrote:
>> Before I file this, does anyone know if it's been reported (I can't find
>> it, but I am notoriously bad at finding other people's bug reports
>> because they use different words to describe things :-)
>>
>> When I click on the caret menu (LH end of shelf before thermometer) and
>> pick System > Suspend, the laptop correctly suspends.
>>
>> After resuming with the power button, everything seems to work, except
>> that all items in that System menu are inoperative (Lock, Log out,
>> Suspend, Reboot, Power off); that is, clicking on them does nothing at
>> all (and the disk light does not even flicker).
>>
>> I am using the Enlightenment 0.21.99.22030 I compiled from github a few
>> weeks ago on a Dell Latitude D810.
>>
>> Right-click on background and all related menus seem to work normally;
>> other items in the shelf also working normally.
>>
>> (Possibly unrelated) System > Hibernate is blacked out for some reason,
>> perhaps because E believes it has detected that this facility is not
>> available. Indeed the hardware function Fn + F1 (labelled in blue
>> Hibernate) does nothing, and Fn + Esc ["Standby"] is also inoperative.
>>
>> ///Peter
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Re: [e-users] Menu inoperative after resume

[Massimo Maiurana]

I have the same problem and even more:
- colors do change after resume, there is more contrast and the balance
is a little more blue and a little less red (for what I can see through
my eyes)
- in the system menu also "Log out" doesn't work, I have to exit E if I
want to go back login screen
- after every resume, and this is not a new issue but it is minor so I
never reported it, screen goes black for some seconds. I mean, my E
locks on suspend, at resume I see the usual login screen but after some
seconds the screen blanks. this can happen while I'm entering my
password (most annoying as what I type in that time is useless) or after
5/6 seconds and lasts 2 or 3 seconds

Bye
Massimo

Peter Flynn ha scritto il 04/02/2017 alle 00:08:
> Before I file this, does anyone know if it's been reported (I can't find
> it, but I am notoriously bad at finding other people's bug reports
> because they use different words to describe things :-)
> 
> When I click on the caret menu (LH end of shelf before thermometer) and
> pick System > Suspend, the laptop correctly suspends.
> 
> After resuming with the power button, everything seems to work, except
> that all items in that System menu are inoperative (Lock, Log out,
> Suspend, Reboot, Power off); that is, clicking on them does nothing at
> all (and the disk light does not even flicker).
> 
> I am using the Enlightenment 0.21.99.22030 I compiled from github a few
> weeks ago on a Dell Latitude D810.
> 
> Right-click on background and all related menus seem to work normally;
> other items in the shelf also working normally.
> 
> (Possibly unrelated) System > Hibernate is blacked out for some reason,
> perhaps because E believes it has detected that this facility is not
> available. Indeed the hardware function Fn + F1 (labelled in blue
> Hibernate) does nothing, and Fn + Esc ["Standby"] is also inoperative.
> 
> ///Peter
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Re: [e-users] Screen blanking ... but backlight stays on

[Massimo Maiurana]

I have the same problem but checking and unchecking those options
doesn't solve it; I always have Dpms disabled at startup and need to
activate it by hand :(

If I run Gnome Dpms is instead enabled, and I run the same apps both
under E and under Gnome. What can disable it, or fail to enable it?

Bye
Massimo

Mick ha scritto il 30/12/2016 alle 13:22:
> On Friday 30 Dec 2016 14:09:34 you wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:04:56 + Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said:
>>> On Thursday 29 Dec 2016 08:54:54 Mick wrote:
> 
>>>> I've ran xset +dpms for now, but why would not enlightenment restore it?
>>>
>>> Hmm ... it didn't survive a reboot.  :-(
>>
>> perhaps you have something else messing with the dpms values. here it alwasy
>> sets up on boot/reboot and enable presentation mode then disable again and
>> everything is set correctly (dpms enabled, standby/suspend/off times are
>> correct, screensaver is on with correct timeout). i can't reproduce your
>> issues here with e from git (and efl too).
> 
> I've also used vbetool to set DPMS, but it I found out DPMS disabled when I 
> rebooted.  I've never had this before.  I wonder if something in the .e/ 
> configuration went sideways.
> 
> So, I removed content.txt and rebooted.  DPMS was still switched off.  Then I 
> used the Settings Panel/Screen/Screen Blanking and set blanking off, applied 
> it, then set it on again and applied it once more.  What do you know ... now 
> it is set to on and it sticks between reboots.  Problem solved.  :-)
> 
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Re: [e-users] Screen brightness

[Massimo Maiurana]

The "Backlight" module provides a control that you can put in a shelf,
when you click on it it shows a cursor to dim/undim the screen. You can
find it under "Utilities" in the list of modules.

Alternatively you can set a keybinding to the actions "Backlight up" and
"Backlight down" and tune the steps via the parameter box.

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Peter Flynn ha scritto il 23/12/2016 alle 23:16:
> I'm running e17 under Ubuntu 15.10 on a Dell Latitude D810.
> 
> The keyboard provides Fn up-arrow and Fn down-arrow to control screen
> brightness, but they only provide one step, about a 5% change in
> intensity up or down.
> 
> I have tried but failed to find anywhere in the e menus a setting or
> widget to make the screen brighter or dimmer — they offer lots of other
> settings like power control and dim-screen-after-n-seconds, but I am
> somehow missing the fundamental ones to make the display brighter or dimmer.
> 
> Is this even possible through the e controls?
> 
> ///Peter
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Re: [e-users] (no subject)

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Gabriele Zaverio ha scritto il 27/10/2016 alle 17:36:
> Hi there,
> 
> just got Elementary from Git:
> 
>  git clone git://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git
> 
> ./autogen.sh went ok, as long as ./configure, but make give me a weird error:

Ciao Asbesto :)

I don't know why it's still possible to clone core/elementary.git, it is
an outdated module as elementary is now merged into efl. All you need to
do is to git clone core/efl.git to have all libraries.

Here you can see what modules are available:
https://git.enlightenment.org/

Note that under /core there are just efl and enlightement, elementary is
listed under /legacy but it's path is still under /core. I guess someone
should tune git :)

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Re: [e-users] How to debug exec enlightenment_start ?

[Massimo Maiurana]

Did you install in /usr or in an unusual path?
For example, I install E in /opt/e17 and to make it working the
following symlink is required:

ln -s /opt/e17/share/dbus-1/services/org.enlightenment.Ethumb.service
~/.local/share/dbus-1/services

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Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 22/10/2016 alle 10:06:
> 
> 
> On 10/21/2016 04:33 PM, Dave wrote:
>>   ~/.xsession-errors ?
>>
>>
>>   In the year 2016, of the month of October, on the 21st day, Massimo 
>> Maiurana wrote:
>>> Xorg.log in /var/log or in ~/.local/share/xorg?
>>>
>>>
> 
> I get this not from a log but as an output on tty :
> 
> 
> RESTART: 0.03929 [0.0] - E_Msgbus Init
> <<<< Enlightenment Error >>>>
> Enlightenment cannot create a dbus session connection.
> At best this will break many things, at worst it will hard lock your 
> machine.
> If you're sure you know what you're doing, export E_NO_DBUS_SESSION=1
> E: Begin Shutdown Procedure!
> E - PID=628, valgrind=0
> 
> Is there some dbus thing that I should start ?
> 
> I have used a minimum jessie installation + xinit + xorg then :
> 
> https://www.enlightenment.org/distros/debian-start
> 
> 
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Re: [e-users] How to debug exec enlightenment_start ?

[Massimo Maiurana]

Xorg.log in /var/log or in ~/.local/share/xorg?

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 21/10/2016 alle 12:27:
> I hope to hace correctly installed enlightenment, I have not !
> 
> When I startx, Xorg log shows nothing.
> 
> How to debug this start...?
> 
> 
> Thank all.
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.2.0 beta1

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Davide Andreoli ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 17:36:
>
> CALL FOR TRANSLATORS:
> Guys this is the right time to submit your updated translations !!!

I guess you don't need any help for the italian localization so I'll 
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Rage 0.2.0 release

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 15:05:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:22:33 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 14:03:
>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:42:47 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 01:42:
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:04:44 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/08/2016 alle 14:17:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:41:00 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is an annoying issue that I found in rage from some months ago
>>>>>>>> but I've always forgot to report it here, sorry :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are cases where rage_thumb just go crazy, spawns several
>>>>>>>> processes, eats up the cpu and reamins active even if I close rage, so
>>>>>>>> I have to "killal -9 rage_thumb". Tipically it happens if I navigate
>>>>>>>> the movie clicking with the mouse in the progress bar, so in order to
>>>>>>>> avoid it I use to navigate via arrow keys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well - it's generating thumbanils for the whole movie (every 10 seconds
>>>>>>> or so it snapshots). it literally sits and loads the movie relying on
>>>>>>> the gst generic evas loader to load a specific frame # from the video
>>>>>>> file. it loads, scales down, and saves to a big eet archive with all
>>>>>>> the thumbs in it for the video...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why is it spinning? some bakctrace, some trace/debug as to what it's
>>>>>>> spinning on etc would be useful. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to help but need also help on how to generate backtraces :)
>>>>>
>>>>> gdb /usr/local/lib/rage/utils/rage_thumb `pidof rage_thumb`
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> bt
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> also getting the file it is choking on would be nice. the file will be on
>>>>> the cmdline passed to rage_thumb..
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I did this: I opened a movie, clicked on some points in the progress
>>>> bar to go forward and the cpu went 100% (both cores). At this point I
>>>> had six instances of rage_thumb running. This is the command line:
>>>> rage /home/max/Video/Il.Volo.Del.Falco.2014.iTALiAN.BDRiP.XviD-HDi.avi
>>>>
>>>> Then I closed rage but all rage_thumb processes still was alive and
>>>> kicking... too kicking :)
>>>> Htop reported small cpu usage for rage_thumb, every process was eating
>>>> just around 1/1.5% of it. Top made me see that there were many
>>>> evas_image_load processes that instead was eating much more cpu, 10% and
>>>> occasionally 20% each process. I generated a backtrace from one of the
>>>> rage_thumb processes, I don't know how it is useful but it is attached.
>>>> In the meantime all processes quitted, so it is just a matter of time
>>>> waiting they do their job, but the problem is that this jog is cpu and
>>>> time consuming :)
>>>>
>>>> Should I run gdb on evas_image_load and generate a backtrace?
>>>
>>> doesn't sound hung to me. it sounds like its actually working. it may take
>>> several minutes to thumbnail the video depending on how long it is...
>>
>> It doesn't hang but it makes my pc unresponsive for a long time, even
>
> no - i meant that rage_thumb isn't hung - it sounds by your description, like
> it's doing it's job. it's trying to generate thumbnails...
>
> i wonder if the issue is that the stream cannot be seeked and thus it's simply
> repeatedly generating frame 0 because a seek to a point fails...
>
> if you do:
>
> strace -f -o ~/log -p `pidof rage_thumb`
>
> then grep through the file for "exec" - you should find the exec lines that 
> run
> the generic loader... what are the aerguments? there should be the file plus a
> number. the number should be large - eg going up by 1000 per second being
> snapped. it will

Re: [e-users] system update gadget

[Massimo Maiurana]

Aptitude can only ryn in a terminal AFAIK, so your command should be 
something like "sudo [terminal] -e aptitude", where [terminal] can be 
terminology, or xterm, or urxvt or whatever terminal you use.

Benoit Barthelet ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 18:56:
> hello,
> while i can get the number of updatable packages, I cant find a way to
> click on the Run the package manager without having an error.
> I use aptitude so I tried in the settings to put various combinations like
> sudo aptitude, gksu aptitude, sudo /usr/bin/aptitude, etc...
> I always get the error message :
> An exit code of 1 was returned from xxx
> where xxx is the command I tried above
>
> any idea, ideally I'd like to run aptitude like if I was in terminlology
>
> thanks
>


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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Rage 0.2.0 release

[Massimo Maiurana]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 14:03:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:42:47 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 01:42:
>>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:04:44 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/08/2016 alle 14:17:
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:41:00 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an annoying issue that I found in rage from some months ago but
>>>>>> I've always forgot to report it here, sorry :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are cases where rage_thumb just go crazy, spawns several
>>>>>> processes, eats up the cpu and reamins active even if I close rage, so I
>>>>>> have to "killal -9 rage_thumb". Tipically it happens if I navigate the
>>>>>> movie clicking with the mouse in the progress bar, so in order to avoid
>>>>>> it I use to navigate via arrow keys.
>>>>>
>>>>> well - it's generating thumbanils for the whole movie (every 10 seconds or
>>>>> so it snapshots). it literally sits and loads the movie relying on the gst
>>>>> generic evas loader to load a specific frame # from the video file. it
>>>>> loads, scales down, and saves to a big eet archive with all the thumbs in
>>>>> it for the video...
>>>>>
>>>>> why is it spinning? some bakctrace, some trace/debug as to what it's
>>>>> spinning on etc would be useful. :)
>>>>
>>>> I would like to help but need also help on how to generate backtraces :)
>>>
>>> gdb /usr/local/lib/rage/utils/rage_thumb `pidof rage_thumb`
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> bt
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> also getting the file it is choking on would be nice. the file will be on
>>> the cmdline passed to rage_thumb..
>>
>> Ok, I did this: I opened a movie, clicked on some points in the progress
>> bar to go forward and the cpu went 100% (both cores). At this point I
>> had six instances of rage_thumb running. This is the command line:
>> rage /home/max/Video/Il.Volo.Del.Falco.2014.iTALiAN.BDRiP.XviD-HDi.avi
>>
>> Then I closed rage but all rage_thumb processes still was alive and
>> kicking... too kicking :)
>> Htop reported small cpu usage for rage_thumb, every process was eating
>> just around 1/1.5% of it. Top made me see that there were many
>> evas_image_load processes that instead was eating much more cpu, 10% and
>> occasionally 20% each process. I generated a backtrace from one of the
>> rage_thumb processes, I don't know how it is useful but it is attached.
>> In the meantime all processes quitted, so it is just a matter of time
>> waiting they do their job, but the problem is that this jog is cpu and
>> time consuming :)
>>
>> Should I run gdb on evas_image_load and generate a backtrace?
>
> doesn't sound hung to me. it sounds like its actually working. it may take
> several minutes to thumbnail the video depending on how long it is...

It doesn't hang but it makes my pc unresponsive for a long time, even 
after I close rage. FWIU there should be a limit in how much cpu the 
thumbnailing processes can take, or a limit in the number of 
thumbnailing processes which can be run at the same time, or at the very 
least an option to turn off thumbnailing. I understand that my PC is 
quite old (6 years), but I would like to keep using it as much as 
possible :)

>>>> If it would segvs i would do it via a "bt" command in gdb, but it
>>>> doesn't crash and also rage_thumb keeps running in multiple processes
>>>> when I stop rage, so how should I trace its activities?
>>>
>>> ^ you can attach to an existing process any time. when you attach the
>>> process will be paused. you can grab a bt then. you can let it continue
>>> running with "c" (continue) cmd any time. you can pause it again with ctrl
>>> +c in gdb an get another backtrace. switch stack frame with "fr N" where N
>>> matches the backtrace number. list the code where you are at with "l". list
>>> a specific line number in that file in context with "l 1234". print a
>>> variable you see with "p varname" dereference a pointer (like c/c++ does
>>> all the time) with "p *varname" or if its a struct geta  member 

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Rage 0.2.0 release

[Massimo Maiurana]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/08/2016 alle 01:42:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:04:44 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:


Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/08/2016 alle 14:17:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:41:00 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
said:


There is an annoying issue that I found in rage from some months ago but
I've always forgot to report it here, sorry :(

There are cases where rage_thumb just go crazy, spawns several
processes, eats up the cpu and reamins active even if I close rage, so I
have to "killal -9 rage_thumb". Tipically it happens if I navigate the
movie clicking with the mouse in the progress bar, so in order to avoid
it I use to navigate via arrow keys.


well - it's generating thumbanils for the whole movie (every 10 seconds or
so it snapshots). it literally sits and loads the movie relying on the gst
generic evas loader to load a specific frame # from the video file. it
loads, scales down, and saves to a big eet archive with all the thumbs in
it for the video...

why is it spinning? some bakctrace, some trace/debug as to what it's
spinning on etc would be useful. :)


I would like to help but need also help on how to generate backtraces :)


gdb /usr/local/lib/rage/utils/rage_thumb `pidof rage_thumb`

...

bt

:)

also getting the file it is choking on would be nice. the file will be on the
cmdline passed to rage_thumb..


Ok, I did this: I opened a movie, clicked on some points in the progress 
bar to go forward and the cpu went 100% (both cores). At this point I 
had six instances of rage_thumb running. This is the command line:

rage /home/max/Video/Il.Volo.Del.Falco.2014.iTALiAN.BDRiP.XviD-HDi.avi

Then I closed rage but all rage_thumb processes still was alive and 
kicking... too kicking :)
Htop reported small cpu usage for rage_thumb, every process was eating 
just around 1/1.5% of it. Top made me see that there were many 
evas_image_load processes that instead was eating much more cpu, 10% and 
occasionally 20% each process. I generated a backtrace from one of the 
rage_thumb processes, I don't know how it is useful but it is attached. 
In the meantime all processes quitted, so it is just a matter of time 
waiting they do their job, but the problem is that this jog is cpu and 
time consuming :)


Should I run gdb on evas_image_load and generate a backtrace?



If it would segvs i would do it via a "bt" command in gdb, but it
doesn't crash and also rage_thumb keeps running in multiple processes
when I stop rage, so how should I trace its activities?


^ you can attach to an existing process any time. when you attach the
process will be paused. you can grab a bt then. you can let it continue
running with "c" (continue) cmd any time. you can pause it again with ctrl+c in
gdb an get another backtrace. switch stack frame with "fr N" where N matches
the backtrace number. list the code where you are at with "l". list a specific
line number in that file in context with "l 1234". print a variable you see
with "p varname" dereference a pointer (like c/c++ does all the time) with "p
*varname" or if its a struct geta  member with "p varname->member". gdb will
even be able to tab complete these like a shell does with files. :)

learning gdb is a very powerful thing. you can find out so much useful info
about a process... :)




Thanks
Massimo

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/08/2016 alle 05:45:

So here is a new release of Rage.

It is a simple video and audio player intended to be slick yet simplistic,
much like Mplayer. You can provide 1 or more files to play on the
command-line or just DND files onto the rage window to insert them into
the playlist. You can get a visual representation of everything on the
playlist by hitting the / key, or just hovering your mouse over the right
side of the window. Mouse back over the left side of the window to
dismiss it or press the key again. It has a full complement of key
controls if you see the README for the full list. It will automatically
search for album art for music files, if not already cached, and display
that. It even generates thumbnails for the timeline of a video and allows
you to preview the position on mouseover of the position bar at the
bottom of the window.

If you run it without any files as arguments, it will go into "browser"
mode where it will index $HOME/Videos and basically become a simple media
center.

A feature list at this point:

  * Play video and audio files
  * Support a playlist via command-line
  * Insert to playlist via DND
  * Controls hide on mouse idle, and appear on mouse movement
  * Fullscreen mode support with automatic "no blank" support
  * Playlist visual previews and controls
  * Subtitle file support
  * Supports Gstreamer 0.10, Gstreamer 1.x, Xine and VLC as media engines
via Emotion mod

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Rage 0.2.0 release

[Massimo Maiurana]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/08/2016 alle 14:17:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:41:00 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> There is an annoying issue that I found in rage from some months ago but
>> I've always forgot to report it here, sorry :(
>>
>> There are cases where rage_thumb just go crazy, spawns several
>> processes, eats up the cpu and reamins active even if I close rage, so I
>> have to "killal -9 rage_thumb". Tipically it happens if I navigate the
>> movie clicking with the mouse in the progress bar, so in order to avoid
>> it I use to navigate via arrow keys.
>
> well - it's generating thumbanils for the whole movie (every 10 seconds or so
> it snapshots). it literally sits and loads the movie relying on the gst
> generic evas loader to load a specific frame # from the video file. it loads,
> scales down, and saves to a big eet archive with all the thumbs in it for the
> video...
>
> why is it spinning? some bakctrace, some trace/debug as to what it's spinning
> on etc would be useful. :)

I would like to help but need also help on how to generate backtraces :)

If it would segvs i would do it via a "bt" command in gdb, but it 
doesn't crash and also rage_thumb keeps running in multiple processes 
when I stop rage, so how should I trace its activities?

>
>> Thanks
>> Massimo
>>
>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/08/2016 alle 05:45:
>>> So here is a new release of Rage.
>>>
>>> It is a simple video and audio player intended to be slick yet simplistic,
>>> much like Mplayer. You can provide 1 or more files to play on the
>>> command-line or just DND files onto the rage window to insert them into the
>>> playlist. You can get a visual representation of everything on the playlist
>>> by hitting the / key, or just hovering your mouse over the right side of
>>> the window. Mouse back over the left side of the window to dismiss it or
>>> press the key again. It has a full complement of key controls if you see
>>> the README for the full list. It will automatically search for album art
>>> for music files, if not already cached, and display that. It even generates
>>> thumbnails for the timeline of a video and allows you to preview the
>>> position on mouseover of the position bar at the bottom of the window.
>>>
>>> If you run it without any files as arguments, it will go into "browser" mode
>>> where it will index $HOME/Videos and basically become a simple media center.
>>>
>>> A feature list at this point:
>>>
>>>   * Play video and audio files
>>>   * Support a playlist via command-line
>>>   * Insert to playlist via DND
>>>   * Controls hide on mouse idle, and appear on mouse movement
>>>   * Fullscreen mode support with automatic "no blank" support
>>>   * Playlist visual previews and controls
>>>   * Subtitle file support
>>>   * Supports Gstreamer 0.10, Gstreamer 1.x, Xine and VLC as media engines
>>> via Emotion modules
>>>   * Selection of media back-end via command-line
>>>   * Album art fetch and caching
>>>   * Video thumbnail timeline generation and caching
>>>   * Works with any Evas engine (OpenGL acceleration, pure software etc.)
>>>   * Works in X11, Wayland and Framebuffer direct support
>>>   * Accelerated seek on keyboard fowrard/reverse
>>>   * Drag gestures for seeking
>>>   * Special different UI modes for pure audio and video
>>>   * Media center browser/indexer mode
>>>   * Simeline thumbails of videos get generated and displayed when over seek
>>> bar
>>>
>>> If you want to see more go to the about page at
>>> https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/rage
>>>
>>> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/rage/rage-0.2.0.tar.gz
>>> http://git.enlightenment.org/apps/rage.git
>>>
>>
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Re: [e-users] Lock + Suspend

[Massimo Maiurana]

Just check the "lock on suspend" checkbox in the screenlock 
configuration dialog and you're done :)
I just suspend my laptop and it locks every time so I have to unlock it 
at resume, which is what you want I suppose.

Bye
Massimo

Daniel Kasak ha scritto il 06/08/2016 alle 13:35:
> Hi all.
>
> Is it possible to set up a key binding to *both* lock the screen *and*
> suspend? The only way I can get this to happen at the moment is to set
> up a key binding for locking the screen, and then open a terminal as
> root and type "pm-suspend" ... hit enter ... and very quickly press
> the key binding to trigger the screen lock.
>
> Coming at things from a different angle, does E have any visibility of
> when the system is coming out of being suspended or hibernated?
> Perhaps it should always lock ( or have an option to always lock ) in
> this situation.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Dan
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Re: [e-users] all terminals get killed together

[Massimo Maiurana]

The menu entry is really close, not kill. Raster was talking about 
rightclicking the close button on the title bar :)

Bye
Massimo


Il 15 febbraio 2016 08:26:01 CET, jls  ha scritto:
>Hi
>Not better to write kill instead of close on the right click menu?
>Il giorno 15/feb/2016 03:03, "Carsten Haitzler" 
>ha
>scritto:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 19:05:29 -0500 Christopher Barry
>>  said:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey, this may not be e specific, but I've been noticing something
>for a
>> > while now that I don't remember functioning this way, namely if I
>> > right-click the window close button and kill an x-terminal that's
>not
>> > responding, ALL of the open x-terminals are killed. Is this an
>> > x-terminal thing?
>>
>> you know right click =on close is "forcible kill"? this will not
>close
>> down a
>> window the "nice way" if the terminals are managed by a single
>process then
>> you'll see all of them go as the one process that owns that window is
>> killed...
>> taking the rest with it of course, so don't right-click there if you
>don't
>> want
>> to. :)
>>
>> > Anyone know why this is happening (or if it always worked like this
>> > and I never noticed)? I use debian's e17 and lxterminal.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Christopher
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Re: [e-users] Window positions not being remembered

[Massimo Maiurana]

Same here, so I decided to put window geometry on the terminology command line, 
which I run through a desktop file. This made me find another strangeness: if I 
put geometry after -e option it is not taken into account, if I put it before 
it works as expected :)

Bye
Massimo


Il 11 gennaio 2016 01:00:56 CET, Conrad Knight  ha 
scritto:
>Hi,
>
>I'm Enlightenment 20.2, and am having trouble with window positions
>being remembered. I have a terminology window set to open on E's
>start-up, and i set it up as desired, then selected the following
>options from the window -> remember settings:
>First screen: none of the radio buttons are checked
>Press Advanced, Identifiers tab: check box for Window name is checked.
>Properties tab: Position, Size, Border style, and Virtual Desktop are
>checked.
>Options tab: Match only one window, and Start this program on login are
>checked.
>
>When i log out and back in, the terminology window is opened and all
>of the settings are applied except for position. The window appears on
>the desired virtual desktop (not the one immediately visible on
>logging in), but in the top left corner of that desktop instead of
>where i had previously placed it.
>
>This was previously working in E19, but i deleted my entire ~/.e
>directory, as well as ~/.cache/efreet and
>~/.cache/evas_gl_common_caches when upgrading to avoid conflicts from
>outdated and incompatible settings. Are there any others i possibly
>missed, considering i also had E18 installed at one point?
>
>In addition, i'm also having trouble with the clock module. I have it
>added as a desktop gadget, and it first appears as a miniscule clock
>in the top left corner. It is just large enough to allow me to
>right-click on it, so that i can resize it and move it where i'd like
>it (just below another window near the top right corner). However,
>whenever i restart E, it forgets both this size and position and
>returns to its tiny corner. I remember having this problem in E19 as
>well, but not how i solved it. As the size is also being forgotten,
>and there aren't explicit remember settings for the desktop gadget, i
>don't know if this is related to the terminology position issue.
>
>Are there any config files i can check to see if they're being
>correctly updated? Is there any way to manually correct these config
>files? The only files i can find are in a binary format, and do not
>appear to be written to at the same time any settings are changed.
>
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Re: [e-users] Start app in different display

[Massimo Maiurana]

What examples?
AKAIK startx runs a Xorg session on a given display, to open several
displays you would need to run several times startx with different
display number, but I guess that's not what you want to do.

Are you sure you are thinking about real displays? Not xinerama screens?
Not virtual desktops, i.e those listed in the pager?

Danny ha scritto il 27/12/2015 alle 09:00:
> Hi guys,
> 
> When I "startx" I would like to start various programs on different displays 
> ... for example: In my .xinitrc file I have the following:
> xterm &
> enlightenment-start
> 
> I know displays are marked with ":0" ... but the examples on the net does not
> seem to work ...
> 
> Thank You
> 
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Re: [e-users] Start app in different display

[Massimo Maiurana]

Much more sense, indeed :)
So you're talking about virtual desktops, a totally different thing than
Xorg displays. Forget about startx.

E can run an application at startup and remember some of its settings,
including (but not limited to) virtual desktop and size. To do it you
would just have to right-click its title (or alt+rightclick inside it)
and choose window->remember.

But you don't want to run an application, you do want to run a complex
command many times and have each one of the resulting windows treated
like an application.

You can then create your own application file and put them in
~/.local/share/applications with a .desktop extension. It's just a text
file following the FDO specs. For example I have one file to launch
terminology running a script that run tmux inside it, this is what is in it:
max@rubino:~$ cat ~/.local/share/applications/tmax.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Exec=terminology -e tmax
Name=Tmax

Every app file should have a different name so that you can further list
them in your ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order file. This is what mine
contains:
max@rubino:~$ cat ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order
numlockx.desktop
tint2.desktop
tmax.desktop
pidgin.desktop
icedove.desktop
iceweasel.desktop

Now you can make E remember for every app the virtual desktop where to
place it, but there's another problem: how to match every single window?
They're all urxvt window, so you can't match them by name or class. You
can still match them by title, but every window should have a unique
title. Urxvt should have a command line option to set its window title,
I think every terminal have it, so just look in its man page and put
that option in the command in your .desktop file, and you're done ;)

Bye
Massimo

Danny ha scritto il 27/12/2015 alle 10:00:
> My apologies, I should've given a better explanation ...
> 
> At the moment I have 8 virtual desktops inside of Enlightenment ... on 4 of
> these desktops I have urxvt terminals that monitors different types of data 
> ...
> the problem is that everytime I start enlightenment (via startx on the command
> line) I have to go to each virtual desktop and start these terminals manually
> ... 
> 
> What I want to happen is that when I start enlightenment via startx I want a
> urxvt terminal started on 4 of these virtual desktops with the commands to
> automatically start the data logging ...
> 
> I hope that makes more sense ... 
> 
> Danny
> 
> On Dec 27 15, Massimo Maiurana :
>> To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 09:33:09 +0100
>> From: Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [e-users] Start app in different display
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  Icedove/38.4.0
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>> What examples?
>> AKAIK startx runs a Xorg session on a given display, to open several
>> displays you would need to run several times startx with different
>> display number, but I guess that's not what you want to do.
>>
>> Are you sure you are thinking about real displays? Not xinerama screens?
>> Not virtual desktops, i.e those listed in the pager?
>>
>> Danny ha scritto il 27/12/2015 alle 09:00:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> When I "startx" I would like to start various programs on different 
>>> displays ... for example: In my .xinitrc file I have the following:
>>> xterm &
>>> enlightenment-start
>>>
>>> I know displays are marked with ":0" ... but the examples on the net does 
>>> not
>>> seem to work ...
>>>
>>> Thank You
>>>
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Re: [e-users] Touchpad for left-handed

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Using a xorg configuration file instead of a script should solve this
problem, because the options should be loaded for every Xorg session
including the login screen.

For example, I have this in my custom file
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf:

Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad catchall"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "1"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "off"
EndSection

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Leslie Johnson ha scritto il 21/10/2015 alle 18:23:
> Yeah, being left-handed can be a problem at times. My pet peeve is when
> initial login screens (before user settings take place) insist on using the
> right-handed mouse button 1 for input, even when the other button does
> nothing. Why not just accept either one?
> 
> I agree that having an easy touchpad config on Enlightenment would be a
> Good Thing.
> 
>  - Les
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski <m...@wawrzek.name
>> wrote:
> 
>> On 21 October 2015 at 13:12, Leslie Johnson <bith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> Hi Les,
>>
>>>> One of the annoying things in Enlightenment is lack of a tool to
>>>> configure touchpad actions and the way touchpad behaves after
>>>> switching from right- to left-handed mouse. After the switch 'clicks'
>>>> are swapped - click on the right becomes 'main' one. However, tap
>>>> functionality is not updated so for example one tap becomes
>>>> 'secondary' click.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to address it on enligthenment level?
>>>> It could be:
>>>> - a proper touchpad setting menu
>>>> - switching mouse left-right handed do something updating touchpad
>> action
>>>>
>>
>>> This is more of a workaround than a fix, but I use these settings in a
>>> script to fiddle with settings on my touchpad, including swapping the
>>> buttons:
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I have something similar on my other laptop, but it would be nice not
>> to have to do such things. Of course developers might not know that
>> such feature would be welcome until someone point it  out.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wawrzek
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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

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Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48:

> So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything 
> meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be 
> certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in.
>

If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop,
even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires
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Re: [e-users] only getting crit nottifications

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It turned out that it was because in presentation mode normal and low
levels are not diplayed, only urgent are, and it indeed makes perfect sense.
Wido, were you in presentation mode as me?

Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 14/08/2015 alle 08:18:
 I can confirm it, only critical level are really displayed non matter
 what I check in the module configuration. I just created a ticket on phab:
 https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2664
 
 Wido ha scritto il 12/08/2015 alle 16:11:
 Maybe I didn't explained myself. Activating low and normal in that settings
 windows did not affect anything, I only get critical notifications

 2015-08-11 20:40 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:05:17 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

 Hi guys, I've noticed that I'm not getting normal or low notifications,
 only crits.

 I've been playing with the not module and configuration, using
 'notify-send' for doing tests, and only get notifications when they are
 ciritcal. Normal and lows are discarded and I'm not seeing errors in
 .xsession-errors, so I don't know if E is getting them or no, or what
 could
 it be.

 any ideas?

 settings - extensions - notification

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Re: [e-users] only getting crit nottifications

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Felipe Magno de Almeida ha scritto il 18/08/2015 alle 20:01:

 Maybe, shouldn't presentation mode disable itself after a restart? The
 problem is,
 IMO, we forget about it.

That would be a good thing indeed.

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Re: [e-users] only getting crit nottifications

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To me is the opposite, because I assume that if you are displaying a
presentation in public you don't want to have non urgent notifications
appearing on your screen.
At the same time, the way I used presentation mode (temporarily
disabling screensaver and screen dimming) made me prefer to have them
displayed, but I can workaround this removing every timeout and locking
my screen via keycombo ;)

Wido ha scritto il 18/08/2015 alle 16:53:
 yup, good catch!
 
 I disabled presentation and now notifications are displayed again. Is this
 a feature? or a bug?
 
 honestly, doesn't look like a desired behaviour to me.
 
 2015-08-18 4:27 GMT-03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 
 It turned out that it was because in presentation mode normal and low
 levels are not diplayed, only urgent are, and it indeed makes perfect
 sense.
 Wido, were you in presentation mode as me?

 Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 14/08/2015 alle 08:18:
 I can confirm it, only critical level are really displayed non matter
 what I check in the module configuration. I just created a ticket on
 phab:
 https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2664

 Wido ha scritto il 12/08/2015 alle 16:11:
 Maybe I didn't explained myself. Activating low and normal in that
 settings
 windows did not affect anything, I only get critical notifications

 2015-08-11 20:40 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:05:17 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

 Hi guys, I've noticed that I'm not getting normal or low
 notifications,
 only crits.

 I've been playing with the not module and configuration, using
 'notify-send' for doing tests, and only get notifications when they
 are
 ciritcal. Normal and lows are discarded and I'm not seeing errors in
 .xsession-errors, so I don't know if E is getting them or no, or what
 could
 it be.

 any ideas?

 settings - extensions - notification

 ?

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Re: [e-users] only getting crit nottifications

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I can confirm it, only critical level are really displayed non matter
what I check in the module configuration. I just created a ticket on phab:
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2664

Wido ha scritto il 12/08/2015 alle 16:11:
 Maybe I didn't explained myself. Activating low and normal in that settings
 windows did not affect anything, I only get critical notifications
 
 2015-08-11 20:40 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:
 
 On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:05:17 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

 Hi guys, I've noticed that I'm not getting normal or low notifications,
 only crits.

 I've been playing with the not module and configuration, using
 'notify-send' for doing tests, and only get notifications when they are
 ciritcal. Normal and lows are discarded and I'm not seeing errors in
 .xsession-errors, so I don't know if E is getting them or no, or what
 could
 it be.

 any ideas?

 settings - extensions - notification

 ?

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Re: [e-users] Disabling centering of mouse when tabbing between applications

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Settings=Window=Focus=Pointer

jonas hedman ha scritto il 14/07/2015 alle 08:00:
 
 Hi, this is my first post to the list and I'm afraid my question might
 be a bit stupid. 
 
 Nevertheless, I find it quite annoying when I tab between open
 applications in one workspace using alt+tab, the mouse is centered in
 the current application. How I can I disable this feature?
 
 I'm pretty sure I figured out how to do this sometime before but I can't
 seem to do it again.
 
 I'm using the somewhat outdated debian stable version off enlightenment.
 
 Any help would be highly appreciated!
 
 With kindly regards and tanks for a great desktop!
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] icons missing from desktop/Ibar

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Maybe what Paul misses are icons for launchers in Ibar, not tray icons.
Or at least that's what I understood :)

As far as I know launchers in Ibar are... well, just launchers, so every
app icon should be the one named in the corresponding desktop file.
If you see in ~/.e/applications you will find that for every category
(bars apps, startup apps, desklock apps and so on) there is just an
.order file which is just a list of desktop files to show. That list is
edited e.g. when you choose to add an application to a bar or something
else from its window menu, but you can also edit it by hand. E will
search for those files in the standard freedesktop directories.

The reasons for an app missing its icon could be:
- the desktop file doesn't list any
- the one listed in the desktop file is missing or its format is not
supported; I've heard many times of svg icons not displayed due to
missing svg support in evas, likely because at build time the needed
libraries was missing
- the efreet cache is corrupted; if that's the case, removing the dir
~/.cache/efreet and restarting efreet (or E) would help

Tha's all I know.

Claudio Cesar de Sa ha scritto il 08/07/2015 alle 15:24:
 In my case the applets from Dropbox and Network configurations
 have disappeared also.
 
 Look a program call systray in control panel... I was informed about it
 
 claudio
 
 2015-07-07 8:52 GMT-03:00 Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com:
 
 not sure what happened, but my icons have disappeared, for SOME apps
 even the tray icons are empty for google chrome  thunderbird.
 Libreoffice never had one. The only 2 icons left in my tray ( Ibar?) are
 terminology  teamviewer.
 on my desktop I have mostly a ? question mark icon for my apps..
 firefox, chrome, thunderbird, vmware player all just show a ? icon.
 how do I fix that? I just logged out  back in, it didn't change..

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Re: [e-users] icons missing from desktop/Ibar

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Paul Cartwright ha scritto il 08/07/2015 alle 21:37:

 $ cd
  $ find . -name Thunderbird.desktop
 
 returned nothing

cd where? Why not using locate Thunderbird.desktop?

Usually desktop files are in /usr/share/applications,
/usr/local/share/applications, ~/.local/share/applications and every
other directory set via the the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable. See
here for details:
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Re: [e-users] missing icons- SOLVED

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Paul Cartwright ha scritto il 07/07/2015 alle 14:21:
 well, logging out didn't fix it, but I just rebooted, and now my icons
 are back.. not sure what the issue was.. thunderbird is still a blank
 icon, but that is only a link to the app in my folder. how do I give
 that link an icon?

E follows the freedesktop standards, so in order to have a custom
launcher you should either create a desktop file for it to put in
~/.local/applications or use a tool that does it via an UI (don't know
any, sorry).

I wonder why you have a link to launch thunderbird. Usually packages
ships it own desktop files and install them in /usr/share/applications,
here is the content of the desktop file I have for icedove (thunderbird
alternative for debian):

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Icedove
Comment=Read/Write Mail/News with Icedove
GenericName=Mail Client
Exec=icedove %u
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=icedove
Categories=Network;Email;News;GTK;
MimeType=message/rfc822;x-scheme-handler/mailto;text/calendar;text/x-vcard;
StartupWMClass=Icedove
StartupNotify=true
Name[ca]=Client de correu Icedove
Name[cs]=Poštovní klient Icedove
Name[fi]=Icedove-sähköposti
Name[fr]=Messagerie Icedove
Name[ja]=Icedove メールクライアント
Name[pl]=Klient poczty Icedove
Name[pt_BR]=Cliente de E-mail Icedove
Name[sv]=E-postklienten Icedove
Comment[ca]=Llegiu i escriviu correu
Comment[cs]=Čtení a psaní pošty
Comment[de]=Emails lesen und verfassen
Comment[fi]=Lue ja kirjoita sähköposteja
Comment[fr]=Lire et écrire des courriels
Comment[it]=Leggere e scrivere email
Comment[ja]=メールの読み書き
Comment[pl]=Czytanie i wysyłanie e-maili
Comment[pt_BR]=Ler e escrever suas mensagens
Comment[sv]=Läs och skriv e-post
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Re: [e-users] Recording sound and video from a window in Enlightenment.

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It can be accomplished through audacity:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_linux.html

David Seikel ha scritto il 04/06/2015 alle 07:25:
 I have a need to record sound and video from a particular window.  I've
 tried recordMyDesktop, but it can't handle specifying a particular
 window, though it claims to.  It might be some incompatibility with
 E19.  What happens is that I start it recording a particular window on
 a particular virtual desktop, but when I move to another virtual
 desktop, the recording moves with me, recording the other windows and
 desktops, instead of sticking with recording the given window.  Which
 makes it tricky for lengthy recordings when I want to go do other things
 while I wait.
 
 Now I know E could handle that to an extent, the pager shows real
 time video of the correct window no matter what I do.  So I figure half
 the functionality is in there somewhere.  Would be good if the other
 half was in a module or something.  I can't find any such module
 though, and I don't feel like writing one right now (got no time lol).
 
 I use Pulse for audio, and it would be great if it could record sound
 from a specific Pulse device.  I'd like to feed the the audio from the
 window to my headphone device, then mute the headphones.  So I don't
 have to listen to it while recording, but can listen to other stuff,
 and the recording doesn't pick up the other stuff.  RecordMyDesktop can
 deal with that, I tell Pulse to feed the monitor of my headphone
 device's output into recordMyDesktop.
 
 Does any one know about any other video recording software that will do
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Re: [e-users] e19 sometimes resets all my windows to be in the center

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I'm using ntel's driver too, so blaming it could be a safe guess :)

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 30/05/2015 alle 02:55:
 On Fri, 29 May 2015 12:48:17 -0700 Marc MERLIN marc_...@merlins.org said:
 
 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 08:42:29AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 On Thu, 28 May 2015 22:15:18 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com
 said:

 Marc MERLIN ha scritto il 28/05/2015 alle 22:00:

 Actually, just to be clear: I have 3 virtual screens, and I just got the
 bug again. All my windows of all 3 virtual screens got centered in their
 respective virtual screen.
 Does this match the problem you're describing?

 Is there any workaround? This is starting to be problematic for me :-/

 There is one in current git as Raster said.
 I had a similar problem but in my case windows were changed in size
 instead of being centered, always after a resume from suspend.

 In current git there is now two new options in screen setup dialog,
 monitor hotplug and lid events; unchecking the latter did the trick
 for me ;)

 yup - so i am listening to feedback on the new randr code and as people
 point out issues am fixing them (in some cases the only sane fix is either
 to totally drop a feature - eg auto reconfig of screens on plug/unplug or
 like the above - add an option if you happen to suffer from it, as drivers
 all behave differently - for example nvidia doesn't go indicate monitors
 are disconnected just because they are dpms turned off, but it would seem
 intel does (which imho is a bit broken on the part of intel)).

 So I found out some more. It's worse than I thought.

 When this happens, I resume from sleep, xscreensaver is running and the
 screen is locked, but I don't see the unlock window.
 Instead I see all my X windows in the cneterg of their virtual screen,
 and my mouse is bound by the corners of the invisible xscreensaver
 password window.

 Given that, it sounds like this new intel xorg driver is causing
 problems not just to E, but also to xscreensaver and that upgrading E
 will not fix the remaining problems like xscreensaver being confused and
 not doing its job of hiding my locked windows underneath.
 Correct?
 
 i don't know - i dont use xscreensaver. i let e's own locker do it's thing. :)
 i have no idea what xscreensaver may or may not be doing. :( but if what is
 happening is what i think is (that the intel drivers are literally reporting
 screen unplug events when dpms kicks in), then this explains a lot. imho it's
 pretty broken to report screen unplugs unless a screen was actually unplugged.
 but that is a guess. the new randr code in e has a workaround for this that at
 least stops you from having ZERO screens - and as massimo said - options to
 ignore the monitor hotplug events if your drivers do this.
 
 so to some extent, your solution atm is to move to a newer e (git master), or
 downgrade your intel drivers back to where they used to work.xscreensaver -
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Re: [e-users] Resizing gnome app windows in E19

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Here on Debian this started many time ago. For what I understand gnome
windows are a bit different than others as their border is indeed some
pixels bigger than what you see, al the rest is a transparent margin.

Also the only thing I can do with these windows is dragging them by
clicking on the window title. Even the context menu (right click) is not
passed to E, if I want the window menu I have to alt+rightclick on it.

Nitralime ha scritto il 30/05/2015 alle 12:06:
 Hi!
 
 Since the last updates of my PC running archlinux 64bit
 I can't resize the gnome app windows in E19 any more!
 Snapping the edges of gnome app windows doesn't work!
 However, it works in gnome desktop as expected.
 
 E19 version  : 0.19.5
 Gnome version: 3.16.3
 
 Is it a known problem?
 If yes, is there any workaround for that?
 
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Re: [e-users] Resizing gnome app windows in E19

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Nitralime ha scritto il 30/05/2015 alle 15:12:
 You are right! I could't exactly remember when it happend.
 If I understand you correctly, there isn't much that can be done
 on the Enlightenment side to work around this strange behavior
 of gnome apps (other than alt+right click and changing the size via 
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Re: [e-users] Resizing gnome app windows in E19

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toki clover ha scritto il 30/05/2015 alle 15:36:

 e-gtk-theme[0] remove those transparent wasted monstrously huge borders
 to actual usable window.

Yes, it removes them, but borders are still unusable for mouse events
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Re: [e-users] e19 sometimes resets all my windows to be in the center

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Marc MERLIN ha scritto il 28/05/2015 alle 22:00:

 Actually, just to be clear: I have 3 virtual screens, and I just got the
 bug again. All my windows of all 3 virtual screens got centered in their
 respective virtual screen.
 Does this match the problem you're describing?
 
 Is there any workaround? This is starting to be problematic for me :-/

There is one in current git as Raster said.
I had a similar problem but in my case windows were changed in size
instead of being centered, always after a resume from suspend.

In current git there is now two new options in screen setup dialog,
monitor hotplug and lid events; unchecking the latter did the trick
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Re: [e-users] screen brightness keys (and edge bindings)

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Conrad Hill-Knight ha scritto il 20/05/2015 alle 03:17:

 That did it! It was set to +/-0.1. I'm guessing it's supposed to be a
 percentage?

If I'm not wrong it's not a percentage, it's a step as defined by the
driver. Looking at /sys/class/backlight/your_driver/max_brightness you
shoould find what is the max level of brightness in your case, and if
you set your steps to 0.1 you'll need to press max_brightness*10 times
your keys to reach the maximum level.

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Re: [e-users] e19 and connman ?

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If it's not in the list of available gadgets either it's not loaded or
it doesn't exist.
Do you see it in the list of installed modules? If it's there you just
have to enable it in order to have it available for the shelf.

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 18/05/2015 alle 16:38:
 On a computer, I installed connman and e (from git master).
 I do not find the access to connman in settings shelves advanced 
 available gadgets
 I have this problem before and after building and installing econnman.
 On another computer, I have access to connman without problem (and 
 without having built econnman !).
 
 What am I mssing ?
 
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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

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Ouch, sorry, didn't see that :)

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 18/04/2015 alle 09:22:
 Grazie Massimo.
 Please see my point 4 just below.
 
 On 04/17/2015 05:43 PM, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
 them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
 called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

 Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 17/04/2015 alle 17:33:
 Thank you.

 1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from
 git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
 Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and
 -ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
 The pattern gdb does not exist in my
 /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
 how ?
 Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
 2- when I :

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 I get in echo

 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
 (4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
 It seems it is not generated.

 On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
 white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your 
 distro
 has yama ptrace inhibited.

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC


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 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  
 said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
 debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

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Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 17/04/2015 alle 17:33:
 Thank you.
 
 1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from 
 git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
 Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and 
 -ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
 The pattern gdb does not exist in my 
 /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
 how ?
 Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
 2- when I :
 
 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 
 I get in echo
 
 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 
 3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
 (4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
 It seems it is not generated.
 
 On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
 white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your 
 distro
 has yama ptrace inhibited.

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC


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 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
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 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
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Re: [e-users] Error with terminology

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Hi,
the problem is gone after removing ~/.config/terminology/ :)

Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 23/03/2015 alle 14:03:
 I get this with a fresh compiled git (yesterday):
 max@rubino:~$ terminology
 CRI3358:terminology main.c:560 elm_main() Non ho potuto inizializzare
 le combinazioni di tasti
 ERR3358:efreet_cache lib/efreet/efreet_cache.c:1134 on_send_register()
 org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user.
 CRI: lib/eet/eet_lib.c:570 eet_shutdown() eina_log_print() unknown
 domain -1, original message format 'Init count not greater than 0 in
 shutdown.'
 
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[e-users] Error with terminology

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I get this with a fresh compiled git (yesterday):
max@rubino:~$ terminology
CRI3358:terminology main.c:560 elm_main() Non ho potuto inizializzare
le combinazioni di tasti
ERR3358:efreet_cache lib/efreet/efreet_cache.c:1134 on_send_register()
org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user.
CRI: lib/eet/eet_lib.c:570 eet_shutdown() eina_log_print() unknown
domain -1, original message format 'Init count not greater than 0 in
shutdown.'

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Re: [e-users] Using window remembers to start several urxvt's

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Petter Adsen ha scritto il 06/02/2015 alle 13:09:
 Hi all!
 
 Is it possible to use the options in the window - remember menu to
 start several instances of urxvt and place them all in specific
 positions on a specific desktop/screen?

I would create some desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications which
runs urxvt instances with different titles, and then I would use that
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Re: [e-users] Configure 'overlay' layer of gadgets

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Daniel Kasak ha scritto il 02/02/2015 alle 02:39:

 Coming at the problem from a different angle, is there any way to get a
 nice large pager gadget to pop up in the middle of the current desktop upon
 hitting a key binding?

Isn't it the purpose of the Show Pager Popup action in the kebindings
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Re: [e-users] Compiling ephoto

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Quelrond ha scritto il 01/02/2015 alle 11:20:

 So, the configure script is absent - impossible to compile anything 
 cloning git repo.
 Is there any other way to get it?

Just run autogen.sh to generate the configure script. It will also run
the generated script without further intervention.
Source repository usually doesn't include a configure script, only
released tarballs does it.

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Re: [e-users] make uninstall

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David Seikel ha scritto il 27/01/2015 alle 12:36:
 On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 05:48:12 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org
 wrote:
 
 Does that require some setting change so that other apps using efl
 etc know to look there for libraries? Not sure what it would be,
 something like ldconfig or ld.so in /etc ?? 
 
 Yep, depends on your OS, but in my case I have a file
 in /etc/ld.so.conf.d called efl.conf that contains -
 
 /opt/efl/lib

Same here with the only difference that I use /opt/e17 as prefix :)

There are also some environment variables that needs to be set, I have
these lines in my .profile:

PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/e17/lib/pkgconfig
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Re: [e-users] (no subject)

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Dustin Jenkins ha scritto il 25/01/2015 alle 01:15:
 Or if you built from source, running 'make uninstall' in each 
 library/application does the proper removal of items.

Yes, but it works for sure only with the same sources used at installa
time, because it knows where it installs things and so it just does the
exact opposite that it did at install time.
Doing it via an autodetect system, as Pierre seems to ask, would be not
that accurate because there is no way for a script to know how packages
where installed, if it was done via a package manager or with some
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Re: [e-users] Indicators

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An alternative way, at least until e's systray will be working, is to
use an external traybar like tint2 (only tray), or trayer, or something
similar.

Walter Rudametkin ha scritto il 01/01/2015 alle 07:35:
 Hi Petter,
 
 I'm very new to Enlightenment but here's a couple of possibilities:
 
 Have you enabled xembed for your systray?
 You can right click the systray and activate it. It helps with things 
 like tomboy, deluge or network manager applet. However, I believe in e20 
 xenbed functionality will totally dissapear, and currently in e19 it 
 doesn't work very good. I often have to right-click the panel and hit 
 refresh to make the icons display properly. I wish there was a shortcut 
 to do this :)
 
 Have you installed libindicator-gtk2 and libindicator-gtk3 (in arch 
 there called like that)?
 Some apps, like deluge, can appear with either xembed or or with 
 applicaton indicators. In Deluge there's an option to choose. 
 Application indicators work just fine.
 
 In any case, I'm moving away from apps that use the systray with xembed 
 towards others that use libindicator.
 
 Regards,
 Walter
 
 On 31/12/14 10:55, Petter Adsen wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to find a way to use a couple of indicators that I need,
 that I used to have in a panel in xfce. I thought this was what the
 systray was for, so I added it to one of my shelves, but nothing seems
 to have happened.

 As a workaround, I can always run xfce-panel and strip out everything
 except the indicators, but this seems like an ugly way of doing things
 - are there any other alternatives?

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Re: [e-users] pidgin 2 windows

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Francesc Guasch ha scritto il 22/12/2014 alle 12:03:

 But as soon as I close my List for friends window
 it disappears and there is no way to bring it back. It appears
 as defunct in ps.

Pidgin, just like other applications with a traybar icon (e.g. skype),
doesn't exit when you click on the close button but iconize itself. If
you want to close it you should instead press ctrl+q or choose exit
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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.1 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

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toki clover ha scritto il 06/12/2014 alle 10:46:
 Hello fellow E users,
 
 Here comes a minor bug fixes of 0.19.0.

Thanks again :)

I've noticed that in textboxes of some web pages the characters I enter
are the same color as the background, so basicaly invisible. One example
is the input box on facebook, which is white on white, while the other
text on the same page are black or something near to it.
Is it fixable in some way? For facebook I switched to a darker theme
using stylish, but of course I can't do it for every single site that
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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

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Hi Toki,
using your theme I notice that when i hover a checkbox in a form the
label text becomes blue, which is fine, and the box displays the check
mark, which of course isn't fine at all :)

toki clover ha scritto il 02/12/2014 alle 10:11:
 Hello fellow E users,
 
 I did notice the interests and thanks of a few users in previous post.
 
 Thanks Tom for posting in the official E twitter!
 
 So here comes a new refresh as promised in the last post.
 
 The ChangeLog says:
 ---
 0.19.0:
 
 gtk-[23]: tab-bar-v2: update/clean up notebook tabs (gtk-2 is better?/);
 (idea: e.org tab like because e like tab are not possible especially for
 gtk-2);
 gtk-2: added inset shadow in entry; and use bevel-in frame in notebook;
 gtk-2: use default fg_color for menubar; and new menu (v3);
 ---
 
 Finished porting the theme to gtk+3.0. Well, gtk+-3.6 is a minimal
 requirement
 and the last change was made under gtk+-3.12. As gtk+ became libgnome with
 ABI breakage on each release, I don't promise anything on older gtk+-3.12.
 
 The gtk+-3 theme relies solely on gtk+ with no additional engine.
 
 Well, what to say? I prefer gtk-2... it looks much better than gtk-3.
 Pixmap engine rendering looks good. gtk-3 has only the notebook border (not
 easy to get/do, nice hack!), shine effect, and tab bar right but the lack of
 arrow/expander theming capabilities give gtk-2 a better looks.
 
 Lets take some vaccation from theming then ;-).
 


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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

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toki clover ha scritto il 02/12/2014 alle 20:21:
 Which major gtk+ version... and whidget..?

I have both 2.24.25 and 3.14.4, standard packages in debian jessie, but
don't know which one is involved. For example I can see it in Gnucash,
see here what it loooks like when mouse is not hovering:

not hovering

Note that the option is unset, so the box isn't checked. Here is what it
looks like when hovering it:

hovering

The option is still unset, but I see it as it was indeed checked

 I don't know what to think about it... Removing button/check/radio
 state is easy. Should I remove check/radio/buton state and just
 highlight only the text instead? 

I think it would be better, the way it is now is just confusing to me.
Even better would be if on hovering the checkbox would get a tiny blue
border, but I have no idea if it is really doable :)

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme (Enlightenment gtk theme)

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Very nice! Thanks :)

toki clover ha scritto il 01/12/2014 alle 01:11:
 Hello fellow E users,
 
 Just annoucing new releases of e-gtk-theme; current version is 0.18.4 which
 is pretty
 complete minor a very few annoying glitches.
 
 I posted it there: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=156023
 with screenshots.
 
 The project is hosted on github: https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme
 
 What's new? gtk+-3 theme is almost finished and would be much better than
 gtk+-2
 if arrows/expanders were themeable. I guess GNOME/SystemD OS devs don't have
 any plans for that as arrow widget will be depracated in 3.14.
 
 Anyway, gtk+-3 theme is very good compared to gt+-2 counterpart which
 wasn't the case
 before 3.6. (Painfull days, with zero docs as always, and very few
 themeable widgets but
 chosing a color.)
 
 I plan to release 0.19.0 in a few days which have a visual departure from
 older releases
 because the tab-bar will defer greatly. Old tabs was a little awfull
 because there is no
 way to theme the whole tab-bar in gtk+-2 and the whole thing can be themed
 in recent
 gtk+-3. I just visited e.org today and remembered that the new darky site
 is very good.
 I liked that tab/menubar since... So I've just rolled exactly the same look
 in gtk+-3 tab-bar and
 tried to compose something with gtk+-2 which ended up being pretty good.
 
 Well, let's not write a novel about it and stop right here. Who would
 follow after that much anyway?
 
 Thanks for your patience. I hope I did not get some snoring already!
 
 Take care!
 


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Re: [e-users] E19.1 Poweroff doesn't work

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On debian testing there was a while ago an issue with the samba daemon
not exiting correctly, it took about 5 minutes before the machine
halted. It was fixed a few weeks ago.
Anyway, if it looks like hanged it could be a service that systemd can't
stop properly. You can enable a debug shell with systemctl disable
debug-shell, so at next startup you'll have a console on f9 as root.
You can then talk to systemd to see what it is waiting, e.g. with
systemctl list-jobs.

HTH

Will Hopper ha scritto il 25/11/2014 alle 18:42:
 I'm using 19.1 on debian testing, and have a similar issue, although i
 didn't use --emable-systemd at compile time.
 
 Shutting down via any method (telinit 0, power button, E desktop menu)
 causes the system to hang at the black screen for a while, but it
 eventually does shutdown after about probably 30-40 seconds of waiting.
 
 Does your system ever shut down, or does it hang indefinitely?
 
 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:04 AM, mad_er...@aol.fr mad_er...@aol.fr wrote:
 
 On 11/25/2014 08:33 AM, mad_er...@aol.fr wrote:
 I compiled and installed successfully E19.1 on Debian Sid. It works but
 poweroff system button doesnt shutdown computer. I only get black screen
 in E.
 Precision
 I compiled libraries and e with these options:
 --prefix=/usr  --enable-systemd

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Re: [e-users] E19.1 Poweroff doesn't work

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mad_er...@aol.fr ha scritto il 25/11/2014 alle 19:05:
 On 11/25/2014 06:57 PM, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 Anyway, if it looks like hanged it could be a service that systemd can't
 stop properly. You can enable a debug shell with systemctl disable
 debug-shell, so at next startup you'll have a console on f9 as root.
 You can then talk to systemd to see what it is waiting, e.g. with
 systemctl list-jobs.

 E17 can poweroff normally. I dont' think it's a systemd problem.
 

If you can shutdown with via other methods it definitely has nothing to
do with systemd, but Will said he's not able to shutdown in any way.

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Re: [e-users] how to build e19

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Tom Hacohen ha scritto il 19/11/2014 alle 13:02:
 On 19/11/14 11:31, Pierre Couderc wrote:
 I am trying to build e19 from git, and for the moment efl, and I do not
 find instructions to build. I find nothing in the README file, I find no
 makefile...

 What am I missing...?

 Thank you in advance

 PC

 
 ./autogen.sh
 make
 sudo make install
 
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Also note that you have to give to autogen.sh whatever option you would
give to configure. For example, I usually run ./autogen.sh
--prefix=/opt/e17.


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Re: [e-users] problem with compiling efl

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Wawrzek Niewodniczanski ha scritto il 09/11/2014 alle 11:22:
  Hi,
 
 I have following problem with compiling efl 1.11.4. I have a lua. Any
 idea what is wrong?

Header files are usually in a separate package, and you need to install
it too.
On debian it's currently liblua5.1-0-dev.

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Re: [e-users] e17 fails to notice USB stick

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Peter Flynn ha scritto il 06/11/2014 alle 22:18:
 Why does e17 fail to notice when I insert a USB stick?
 Is there something I can enable to make it pop up a USB icon?

In order for this to work you have to enable both Icons On Desktop and
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Re: [e-users] question on compiling

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I usually install all in /opt/e17 so I just have to delete the entire
dir and I'm done. This means that you have to tweak your environment to
avoid issues. I did set these two variables in my ~/.profile:

PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/e17/lib/pkgconfig
PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH PYTHONPATH

Also I've created an /etc/ld.so.conf.d/e17.conf file containing just
/opt/e17/lib to tell the linker to do the right thing when invoking
ldconfig.

Don't remember if there are other things to do, if I'm not wrong the
service file for Efreet and Ethumb are now installed in
~/.local/share/dbus-1/services automagically.

P Purkayastha ha scritto il 02/11/2014 alle 01:59:
 You can download the original sources for the previous install. Run
 configure with the same configure flags that you used earlier, and then run
 make uninstall.
 On Nov 1, 2014 7:41 PM, Frederik Vanrenterghem frede...@vanrenterghem.biz
 wrote:
 
 The release announcements usually have this snippet:

 If you have an existing EFL or Elementary install, you may wish to
 delete its header files and libraries before compiling and installing to
 avoid possible conflicts during compilation.

 What better way to do this short from deleting /usr/local ?

 Thx,
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Re: [e-users] Touchpad features and E19

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Morten Nilsen ha scritto il 18/10/2014 alle 16:02:
 I seem to have some strange behaviour here..
 After logging out of gnome and into e, my touchpad works with tap to 
 click and horizontal scrolling.
 
 But if I log straight into e after booting, I only have vertical 
 scrolling and I have to press the physical button to click.
 
 There is an option in gnome to enable tap to click, which is default off.
 
 Is there some way to get these features to work as expected in e, or is 
 my quickest option to run gnome-settings-daemon, which I presume will 
 have some effect on this?
 

Just create a configuration file in /etx/X11/xorg.conf.d (at least on
debian, don't know if your distro put them elsewhere) and list all the
options you need. For example this is the content of my
/etx/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf:

Section InputClass
Identifier touchpad catchall
MatchIsTouchpad on
MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
Driver synaptics
Option MaxTapTime 0
Option VertEdgeScroll 1
EndSection

In my case I disable tapping and enable only the vertical scrolling,
basically the configuration you don't want :D

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

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I'm starting it from terminology to try it, so definitely after E
starts, and being on current git it is of course composited.
Tried both with shelf above and below all, but nothing change: it still
refuses to place itself over the shelf :(

Quelrond ha scritto il 09/10/2014 alle 13:55:
 Be sure you start it AFTER E.
 Configure the shelf to be Below Everything.
 Maybe you need compositing enabled, I did not checked without.
 No other ideas, for me it just works.
 
 Peter
 
 
 On 10/08/2014 18:46, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 How?
 I tried every position, starting from bottom, starting from top and
 setting a margin which should make it place itself over the shelf, set
 the shelf below all, set tint2 on the top layer, but it is always placed
 above the shelf :(

 Quelrond ha scritto il 08/10/2014 alle 14:13:
 Yes


 On 10/08/2014 14:00, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 And can it be placed OVER a shelf? Because I tried with stalonetray and
 no matter what geometry I set it always put its window right above the
 shelf, refusing to cover it :(

 Quelrond ha scritto il 08/10/2014 alle 09:17:
 Yes, that's the way I'm using it.
 You need the last version from http://code.google.com/p/tint2
 Follow the instructions in wiki to configure it manually:
 http://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure
 The most important line in my config is:
 panel_items = S
 So only systray item is present on the panel.

 Peter


 On 10/08/2014 05:33, Gary wrote:
 Any way to get tint2 to be a systray only, no tasks, calendars or
 anything else?

 Gary

 Quoting Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com:

 tint2, git version.
 Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.

 Peter

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 The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
 are no intentions to fix it. What would be a suitable E-like
 replacement? What are people using right now, given that the current
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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

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Quelrond ha scritto il 09/10/2014 alle 16:53:
 My tint2rc, maybe it helps.
 

Thanks, but it doesn't change nothing. Even with your configuration it
is still placed above the bottom shelf :(

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

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Wawrzek Niewodniczanski ha scritto il 09/10/2014 alle 21:28:
 Hi,
 
 Out of curiosity, wher is enlightenment systray code?

In enlightenment sources, precisely in the subdir src/modules/systray.

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

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And can it be placed OVER a shelf? Because I tried with stalonetray and
no matter what geometry I set it always put its window right above the
shelf, refusing to cover it :(

Quelrond ha scritto il 08/10/2014 alle 09:17:
 Yes, that's the way I'm using it.
 You need the last version from http://code.google.com/p/tint2
 Follow the instructions in wiki to configure it manually:
 http://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure
 The most important line in my config is:
 panel_items = S
 So only systray item is present on the panel.
 
 Peter
 
 
 On 10/08/2014 05:33, Gary wrote:
 Any way to get tint2 to be a systray only, no tasks, calendars or 
 anything else?

 Gary

 Quoting Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com:

 tint2, git version.
 Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.

 Peter

 On 10/07/2014 02:06, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:
 The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
 are no intentions to fix it. What would be a suitable E-like
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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

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How?
I tried every position, starting from bottom, starting from top and
setting a margin which should make it place itself over the shelf, set
the shelf below all, set tint2 on the top layer, but it is always placed
above the shelf :(

Quelrond ha scritto il 08/10/2014 alle 14:13:
 Yes
 
 
 On 10/08/2014 14:00, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 And can it be placed OVER a shelf? Because I tried with stalonetray and
 no matter what geometry I set it always put its window right above the
 shelf, refusing to cover it :(

 Quelrond ha scritto il 08/10/2014 alle 09:17:
 Yes, that's the way I'm using it.
 You need the last version from http://code.google.com/p/tint2
 Follow the instructions in wiki to configure it manually:
 http://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure
 The most important line in my config is:
 panel_items = S
 So only systray item is present on the panel.

 Peter


 On 10/08/2014 05:33, Gary wrote:
 Any way to get tint2 to be a systray only, no tasks, calendars or
 anything else?

 Gary

 Quoting Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com:

 tint2, git version.
 Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.

 Peter

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 The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
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Re: [e-users] Gadget to display currently-connected network

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pe...@silmaril.ie ha scritto il 02/10/2014 alle 11:22:

 SettingsModules has no category for networking, and there is nothing  
 called connman anywhere in the categories shown.

It should be in the system category and be named Connection manager
(Conn-Man means just that: CONNection MANager).

 So in a moment of rashness I installed the Xubuntu connman,  
 connman-doc, connman-dev, and connman-debug packages, which forced the  
 removal of the network-manager packages. Not a sensible thing to do,  
 because once I power down, my connection will not come back.

Connman normally should connect automatically to anything it knows,
including wired networks via dhcp and wifi networks which do not require
authentication. Of course it requires an input to connect to protected
wifi networks.

 connman appears to be just a daemon, with a very sparse man page, so  
 it's unclear to me (a) how to tell it to do something, and (b) what  
 inside e17 is supposed to talk to it.

Yes, connamn is a daemon so you need a frontend to interact with it.
That frontend can be the e17 gadget, or the separate package
connman-ui-gtk (which goes in the system tray when launched), or even
the very basic command line tool connmanctl that should be included in
the connman package, so already installed.

 This is not a mandatory packages as this package only provides UI  
 for connman, a network manager used in E17 DE. Basically, the  
 default connman is
 enough for daily usage as you only have to click
 
 This is the core problem: click on WHAT? connman is daemon and a  
 command-line program, not a GUI app. This is the bit I'm missing.

Click on the gadget, after you've loaded it and added it in a shelf. You
will then see a popup with all available networks, just click on one and
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Re: [e-users] Gadget to display currently-connected network

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Peter Flynn ha scritto il 02/10/2014 alle 21:05:
 On 10/02/2014 10:47 AM, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 It should be in the system category and be named Connection manager
 (Conn-Man means just that: CONNection MANager).
 
 The problem is that it's not there. Nothing to click on.

If it's not there chances are it was explicitly disabled by the packager
at compile time. All modules are installed in
$PREFIX/lib/enlightenment/modules, if you haven't any connman dir in
there you simply haven't that module.

In that case you have only two chances:
- compile E form source
- stick to network-manager, that should display its icon in system tray
(another module to load :) )

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Re: [e-users] Gadget to display currently-connected network

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Peter Flynn ha scritto il 01/10/2014 alle 22:29:

 Is there such a gadget? I originally thought Connman might be such a
 thing, but there isn't any Connman gadget listed in
 ShelfContentsAvailable (but this may just be my ignorance).

I order to have the connman gadget in a shelf you should load the module
via Settings=Modules and have a connman daemon up and running.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Rage 0.1.0 Release

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman), il 24/08/2014 15:48, ha scritto:
 So I have released the first version of Rage. Version **0.1.0**
 

Many thanks, it has replaced mplayer as my favourite player :)

The only thing I miss, although it is not very important, is the ability
to rewind or fast forward with different speeds through the keyboard. In
mplayer you have keys to do it in steps of 1, 5 and 10 minutes (IIRC),
but in rage, unless I'm missing something, you have only up and down keys.
Maybe this feature could be added in the future, e.g. using modifiers
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Rage 0.1.0 Release

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman), il 25/08/2014 10:19, ha scritto:

 up and down are volume up and down... left/right is ff/rw ..

Yes, of course you're right. Up and down are valid rw/ff keys in mplayer :)

 and it accelerates
 the more freqently you pres them or hold them down, so it starts slow and gets
 faster the longer you go - i kind of saw that as a single solution to all 
 ff/rw
 needs... ?

Oh, I see. Didn't know it was progressive, but I think I would be more
comfortable having fixed steps because sometimes I need to go at a
specific time, and it's easier to do if you know exactly how much time
it moves with a single key press.
But surely it is because I've used mplayer until some time ago, who have
used other players probably is fine with the current solution and so
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Re: [e-users] No icons in iBar, Everything Launcher

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Yomi Ogunwumi, il 24/08/2014 23:34, ha scritto:

 I'm on git, but this seemed to work fine a few days ago.

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Re: [e-users] Tray(?) icons floating around...

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Mauricio, il 17/08/2014 03:36, ha scritto:
 :-o
 So, I set the theme back to default and the systray icons are displayed.
 \o/ No need to reset the config again. Cool! I still don't get the icon for
 wifi, but I don't care so much for that one... not until I have to change
 my wifi settings, at least. heheheh And if I call nm-applet in my prompt
 I get an icon in the systray and I can configure from there. Doesn't seem
 the same applet I had before, but it works and I'm happy. :-)

I don't know about Network Manager because I use connman, and E has an
applet for it, but it could be that your icon for NM is now different
because the old configuration was using a different icon theme.
You can change the icon theme from the Look tab in the configuration
panel; it should be the item Application theme, or something similar
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Re: [e-users] Tray(?) icons floating around...

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Maybe for some reason your configuration is somehow corrupted and the
taskbar you're seeing was enabled in a shelf that is not enabled
anymore. Also I see you're not using the default theme, so it could be
also related to the theme.

I would try first switching to default theme to see if it goes away. If
it's not, then I would close enlightenment and rename ~/.e to ~/.e.old,
so that when you log back in enlightenment will start with a fresh
config. If all is fine you can remove ~/.e.old, if nothing change you
can move ~/.e.old back over ~/.e.

Mauricio, il 15/08/2014 08:03, ha scritto:
 Not that either. :( Yes, I have only one shelf, the bottom one.
 
 When I first installed Sparky, my windows wouldn't go to the very top of my
 display when I maximized them. After some exploring, I found out about
 shelves, and that there were 3 shelves: one bottom center, one top left and
 one top center. Even though the icons were in the top right, for a few
 moments I had some hope that they would be in the corner of my invisible
 top-center shelf. I disabled both top shelves, to test that and because I
 wanted my windows maximizing to the topmost pixels. Now the windows
 maximize all the way :-) but the icons are still there. :(
 So puzzling, right? o.O Any other thing I can try? ^_^
 
Mauricio
 
 
 
 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Mauricio, il 14/08/2014 08:04, ha scritto:
 Thanks for the reply, Massimo. I sent 3 emails until I finally didn't
 get a
 message your message is awaiting approval - message too big, and in the
 end the attachment got stripped away anyway. :(
 I pasted it here, it will last 7 days:
 http://picpaste.com/icons_arrow-4KZOVFu9.jpg

 Hmm, looks like there is a second shelf with transparent background on
 the top edge. Do you see only one shelf going in
 Main_menu=Settings=Shelves (or something like that, I have an italian
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Re: [e-users] Tray(?) icons floating around...

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Mauricio, il 14/08/2014 08:04, ha scritto:
 Thanks for the reply, Massimo. I sent 3 emails until I finally didn't get a
 message your message is awaiting approval - message too big, and in the
 end the attachment got stripped away anyway. :(
 I pasted it here, it will last 7 days:
 http://picpaste.com/icons_arrow-4KZOVFu9.jpg

Hmm, looks like there is a second shelf with transparent background on
the top edge. Do you see only one shelf going in
Main_menu=Settings=Shelves (or something like that, I have an italian
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Re: [e-users] Tray(?) icons floating around...

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Mauricio, il 13/08/2014 10:16, ha scritto:

 Long story: see the attached image. The wifi, skype and dropbox icons are
 floating around. They are not in any shelf, I removed all shelves except
 the bottom one.

No images attached, it was stripped away. Can you load it somewhere and
paste the link?

Anyway, from your description I think there is a systray instance as a
gadget on desktop, so you need to remove that before adding another to
the shelf.
This can be done via Main-menu=Settings=Gadget. You should see two
layers, for each of them click on the configure button and see if there
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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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Just checked, connman.net is up and reachable, at least on https.

There is only one difference in connmanctl properties with green and
orange dot:
green = State = online
orange = State = ready
Which is odd, as I'm actually online in both cases. Anyway it is
definitely a connman issue, the gadget just reflects what connman says.

Massimo Maiurana, il 02/08/2014 18:19, ha scritto:
 Makes sense. I'll check that also.
 
 Kai Huuhko, il 02/08/2014 17:35, ha scritto:
 likely connman.net server down or too busy to respond

 2014-08-02 17:21 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 David Seikel, il 02/08/2014 16:04, ha scritto:

 But in my case internet does work even when I see the orange dot,
 because routes are correctly configurated, dns ip's are available, all
 that should be configured via dhcp is indeed configured. That's why I
 wonder what it's missing, because apparently it's all there.

 Just coz DHCP worked, doesn't mean the rest of the Internet works.
 Maybe the DHCP supplied configuration is wrong?  Maybe there's a
 firewall in the way of those checks?  Or maybe it's just that these
 checks of connman.net are failing due to some other external issue?

 What could be at the same time wrong and allowing me to surf the
 internet in every way? That's my own router I connect to, and it gives
 to my wlan0:
 - an ip address, and of course a netmask
 - a default route
 - one dns address (its own)
 Looks like it's all that is needed to connect to the whole world. I'll
 compare the output from connmanctl when the dot is green and when it's
 orange, just to see if there are differences.

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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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Davide Andreoli, il 03/08/2014 21:18, ha scritto:

 This is another problem, related to the econnman python app, they where
 speaking about the e gadget... always confusing that separation.

Actually the original thread was about econnman, at some point I've
basically hijacked it to talk about the E gadget :)

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment Profile

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Yomi Ogunwumi, il 02/08/2014 07:57, ha scritto:
 When you build E from git, should you start with a new profile every time too?
 

Nope. My configuration is the same from ages, if in the new version
there are changes that make your configuration no more compatible E
should wipe it out and tell you at start. But the last time I saw it was
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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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A question about econnman:
Sometimes the econnman icon has a green dot and sometimes it has an
orange dot, even with my own wlan that is, of course, always the same.
If I understand it correctly it should be orange at low level connection
and green after dhcp configuration, so maybe the icon is not updated
after it is displayed the first time. What is the intended behaviour?

Kai Huuhko, il 29/07/2014 17:09, ha scritto:
 How recent is recent? I fixed that a week ago.
 
 2014-07-29 17:49 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 With a recent git version of econnman I get this:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /opt/e17/bin/econnman-bin, line 56, in module
 from pnac import PNACConfig
 ImportError: No module named pnac

 The directory is in PYTHONPATH as always:

 max@rubino:~$ env | grep PYTHON
 PYTHONPATH=:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages

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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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Yes, I mean the gadget, sorry :)

Kai Huuhko, il 02/08/2014 09:49, ha scritto:
 You mean the e_connman module in E, and not econnman?
 
 I don't know what's going on there, it may be that connman doesn't
 send the status update, or the module somehow fails to update the
 gadget.
 
 Someone with knowledge of how the module works may help you debug it.
 
 2014-08-02 10:13 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 A question about econnman:
 Sometimes the econnman icon has a green dot and sometimes it has an
 orange dot, even with my own wlan that is, of course, always the same.
 If I understand it correctly it should be orange at low level connection
 and green after dhcp configuration, so maybe the icon is not updated
 after it is displayed the first time. What is the intended behaviour?

 Kai Huuhko, il 29/07/2014 17:09, ha scritto:
 How recent is recent? I fixed that a week ago.

 2014-07-29 17:49 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 With a recent git version of econnman I get this:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /opt/e17/bin/econnman-bin, line 56, in module
 from pnac import PNACConfig
 ImportError: No module named pnac

 The directory is in PYTHONPATH as always:

 max@rubino:~$ env | grep PYTHON
 PYTHONPATH=:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages

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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman), il 02/08/2014 15:28, ha scritto:
 On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 09:13:07 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com said:
 
 A question about econnman:
 Sometimes the econnman icon has a green dot and sometimes it has an
 orange dot, even with my own wlan that is, of course, always the same.
 If I understand it correctly it should be orange at low level connection
 and green after dhcp configuration, so maybe the icon is not updated
 after it is displayed the first time. What is the intended behaviour?
 
 it's green when at connection time connman can get to connman.net and check
 some file/thing exists - i.e. it thinks it has full working internet access.
 it's orange if you have a working network interface but the internet doesn't
 work.

But in my case internet does work even when I see the orange dot,
because routes are correctly configurated, dns ip's are available, all
that should be configured via dhcp is indeed configured. That's why I
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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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David Seikel, il 02/08/2014 16:04, ha scritto:

 But in my case internet does work even when I see the orange dot,
 because routes are correctly configurated, dns ip's are available, all
 that should be configured via dhcp is indeed configured. That's why I
 wonder what it's missing, because apparently it's all there.
 
 Just coz DHCP worked, doesn't mean the rest of the Internet works.
 Maybe the DHCP supplied configuration is wrong?  Maybe there's a
 firewall in the way of those checks?  Or maybe it's just that these
 checks of connman.net are failing due to some other external issue?

What could be at the same time wrong and allowing me to surf the
internet in every way? That's my own router I connect to, and it gives
to my wlan0:
- an ip address, and of course a netmask
- a default route
- one dns address (its own)
Looks like it's all that is needed to connect to the whole world. I'll
compare the output from connmanctl when the dot is green and when it's
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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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Makes sense. I'll check that also.

Kai Huuhko, il 02/08/2014 17:35, ha scritto:
 likely connman.net server down or too busy to respond
 
 2014-08-02 17:21 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 David Seikel, il 02/08/2014 16:04, ha scritto:

 But in my case internet does work even when I see the orange dot,
 because routes are correctly configurated, dns ip's are available, all
 that should be configured via dhcp is indeed configured. That's why I
 wonder what it's missing, because apparently it's all there.

 Just coz DHCP worked, doesn't mean the rest of the Internet works.
 Maybe the DHCP supplied configuration is wrong?  Maybe there's a
 firewall in the way of those checks?  Or maybe it's just that these
 checks of connman.net are failing due to some other external issue?

 What could be at the same time wrong and allowing me to surf the
 internet in every way? That's my own router I connect to, and it gives
 to my wlan0:
 - an ip address, and of course a netmask
 - a default route
 - one dns address (its own)
 Looks like it's all that is needed to connect to the whole world. I'll
 compare the output from connmanctl when the dot is green and when it's
 orange, just to see if there are differences.

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Re: [e-users] econnman error

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I didn't remember if I fetched it more or less than a week ago, but
after a git pull it works so I assume it was before :)
Thanks, and sorry for the noise.

Kai Huuhko, il 29/07/2014 17:09, ha scritto:
 How recent is recent? I fixed that a week ago.
 
 2014-07-29 17:49 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:
 With a recent git version of econnman I get this:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /opt/e17/bin/econnman-bin, line 56, in module
 from pnac import PNACConfig
 ImportError: No module named pnac

 The directory is in PYTHONPATH as always:

 max@rubino:~$ env | grep PYTHON
 PYTHONPATH=:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages

 Am I the only one facing this?

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[e-users] econnman error

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With a recent git version of econnman I get this:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /opt/e17/bin/econnman-bin, line 56, in module
from pnac import PNACConfig
ImportError: No module named pnac

The directory is in PYTHONPATH as always:

max@rubino:~$ env | grep PYTHON
PYTHONPATH=:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages

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Re: [e-users] econnman not accepting manual settings

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meine, il 29/06/2014 17:11, ha scritto:

 * what do I do wrong?

Apparently nothing.

 * how can I manual set IP etc that sticks through econnman or some config 
 file?

You can use the command line tool connmanctl, usually in /usr/sbin.
man connmanctl for syntax and options.

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Re: [e-users] econnman not accepting manual settings

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meine, il 29/06/2014 22:51, ha scritto:
 
 What do you get with 'which connmanctl' both as plain user and root?
 
 both the same:
 
 /usr/bin/which: no connmanctl in 
 (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)
 

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Re: [e-users] Windows parity question

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Morten Nilsen, il 09/06/2014 14:32, ha scritto:
 On 06/09/2014 02:28 PM, Alex-P. Natsios wrote:
 Isn't this already possible with edje bindings? unless i misunderstood
 the concept.

 Top Edge - Window : State - Maximize

 
 If you can set it up to trigger on top edge while window move ends..
 
 What's possibly more important to me is the reverse though..
 Dragging a maximized window for n pixels should unmaximize it..
 

Would binding an unmaximize action to the bottom edge work?

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Re: [e-users] Strange screen blanking behaviour

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Alex-P. Natsios, il 08/06/2014 18:14, ha scritto:
 I have also noticed this when either switching or when I manage to crash my
 session.
 
 I think you may be right about the driver bug part since I only remember
 that on my nvidia(blob) desktop not my laptop which has an Intel.

In this case disabling screen blanking (screen preferences) should
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Re: [e-users] EFM mount issue

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Gabriele Piccini, il 26/05/2014 13:43, ha scritto:
 Hi All,
 with EFM I can browse usb disk, the disk is mounted, but when I select a
 different point of the filesystem the usb is unmounted.

I usually use mc as file manager, so I just right click the disk icon
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] pager VS pager16

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I remember that for a short time there was an option in pager to display
live preview. It was unstable and so it has been trashed, and after a
while a new pager16 was created with live previews as e16 (hence the name).

P Purkayastha, il 21/05/2014 04:25, ha scritto:
 As far as I understand, pager16 is an enhanced (rewritten?) version of
 pager with live window previews. It used to be unstable earlier during
 active development but behaves quite stable nowadays.
  On May 20, 2014 11:30 PM, Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com wrote:
 
 Anyone?


 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com
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 Can I ask why these are two different modules? Will they be merged before
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Re: [e-users] script

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Pierre Couderc, il 05/04/2014 09:50, ha scritto:
 Is it possible to start a command when invoking teminology .

Yes. If you run terminology -h you can see all possibile comman d line
options, including:

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Re: [e-users] econnman troubles

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John Holland, il 02/04/2014 14:46, ha scritto:

 I was trying to connect to a new wifi router that had WEP security I
 believe. I couldn't figure out how to tell EconnMan the password.

If connman doesn't have a password already stored for that network you
should click on connect and get a dialog where you can enter it. The
same dialog is presented even if you click on the SSID in the module
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Re: [e-users] econnman troubles

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John Holland, il 02/04/2014 15:22, ha scritto:

 What do you mean by module list?

I mean the list of available networks that you get when you click on the
gadget in the shelf. Items in that list are clickable, and if you click
one of them connman will attempt a connection to it.

 I think I clicked on Connect but didn't get a dialog.

Maybe it fails to associate. See what syslog says, better if you run
tail -f /var/log/syslog on a terminal to see what connman outputs when
trying to associate and connect to the router.

I get a dialog every time I try to connect to a protected network. If it
is an hidden network it prompts me for its name (SSID), if the name is
known it prompts me for the password and if supported there should be
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Re: [e-users] Patches for 'mem' and 'diskIO' modules

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Wido, il 02/04/2014 21:37, ha scritto:
 Hi there,
 
 Like I did with 'net' module, I've patched both mem and diskio modules.

Thanks, I pushed the patch for diskio. The mem module is currently in
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Re: [e-users] installation broken

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Pierre Couderc, il 01/04/2014 08:45, ha scritto:

 Another point, trying to build python efl it does not find pyconfig.h

You should install the python-dev and cython packages in order to build
efl bindings. Have a look at INSTALL file ;)

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Re: [e-users] econnman 1.1 and e 0.18.6

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Pierre Couderc, il 31/03/2014 17:04, ha scritto:
 I get :
 
 root@debian:/var/qemu#econnman-bin
 Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/bin/econnman-bin, line 45, in module
  import elementary as elm
 ImportError: No module named elementary
 
 It seems it does not find elementary

Most probably it doesn't find the python-efl bindings. Do you have it
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Re: [e-users] econnman 1.1 and e 0.18.6

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Pierre Couderc, il 28/03/2014 08:11, ha scritto:
 I have a problem with the following message :
 Econnman stopped running
 and in Advanced :
 Error information :
 An exit code of 1 were returned deom Econnman-bin

That happens here too, and also with other applications I don't remember.
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Re: [e-users] econnman 1.1 and e 0.18.6

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Pierre Couderc, il 28/03/2014 09:12, ha scritto:
 Anyway, it is not only that I have this message, but too, econnman does 
 not work

Oh. Then it's different, as in my case econnman works and I got that
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