Re: [EVDL] OT: EVLN status ... Holiday gifts come in different forms ...

Get better soon! Thoughts and prayers your way. Sent from Bob's iPod On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:48 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I'll try not to get into the non-EV nitty-gritty but it turns out after laying on my local VA's ER bed for several hours yesterday, that my doctors

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

I've enjoyed this thread. My LEAF covers 80% of our commuting needs... all the in-town stuff. But I'd still like the next-size pack so that I could get 18% of the remaining trips! Our Prius is a great car, but I'd rather be using the LEAF, instead of swapping with my wife during Oregon temp

Re: [EVDL] Insurance Woes

I had Allstate with the Civic, but the fascinating thing was that one would cover it, while the other one across town would not. Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Mike Nickerson

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

They changed the batteries to what is called a lizard pack. Not sure how they achieved a more robust chemistry/structure. Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Michael Ross via EV

Re: [EVDL] New Tesla Owner

I'm guessing you sold your civic then? Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: It is a P85. It was about 20% off the normal MSRP for a

Re: [EVDL] Best year of Leaf to buy used.

Slightly off-topic, but no gen 1 upgrade on the battery pack to gen 2. The computers are apparently incompatible. Hack, anyone? Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... > On Nov 12, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Jamie K via EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Bolt Bingo> w/ a 200mi EV you can forget all of the searching for the next charge

Interesting thread. Since I have a 2013 leaf, I've probably charged to 100% once per month or less. Also down one bar. Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... > On Jul 13, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Peri Hartman via EV

Re: [EVDL] Electrical Safety...

Film canisters taped on. Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... > On Jan 4, 2017, at 2:48 AM, Evan Tuer via EV wrote: > > n Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Matthew Quitter via EV

Re: [EVDL] Trading Post: Partially Converted Camry

I have a friend in Southern Oregon with a Gen 5 Honda Civic (92) who is selling with controller but nothing else for $2k. Needs batts. Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... > On Jun 22, 2017, at 4:35 AM, Seth

[EVDL] Civicwithacord for sale

Hi, The current owner of my conversion, a Gen 5 lead acid (92) Civic is asking 3k. I've said he needs to put it on the tradingpost, and not just the Medford, OR craigslist, but he's a busy pilot who "just hasn't gotten to it." Lots of things built into it for safety. There is an EVAlbum

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CR's (silly-tween) quibbles chose Bolt over Tesla

Sucks that while they can build something so awesome, they pay their dues to the American Alliance of Auto Manufacturers, which lobbied successfully to get emissions/CAFE requirements weakened. Nissan for me. Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on

Re: [EVDL] Heater

Respectfully, when I did Civicwithacord, the goal was defrosting the windshield effectively, not keeping me warm. Yanking out the dash to install the ceramic heater in the old fluid core housing was easily the biggest b---h of the conversion, but the time and look and safety was well worth it!!

[EVDL] Towing with a Bolt

Hi All, My bro asked me a question I never worried about with Civicwithacord, nor my LEAF: Why is it so bad to toe with an EV?/Warranty voiding? My first answer was of course, range drop with rolling resistance and added weight requiring more amps. My second answer was guessing that more

[EVDL] 2018 Nissan LEAF article by AP

Was stunned to read the drivel that appeared on Yahoo News today. Clearly author under influence of Koch. Choice cuts: "No reason to drive an EV" "Combustion vehicle range of 500-600 mi." There's bias, then there's REALLY bad, over-the-top bias. This was the latter. Bob Bath, from his iPod,

Re: [EVDL] After an old DCP tach sensor for a Raptor controller?

Might try looking up Peter Senkowski Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... > On Jun 14, 2018, at 2:44 AM, J Bills via EV wrote: > > Howdy all - I have an oldie-but-goodie DCP Raptor 600 and I'm looking to add

Re: [EVDL] LED panel for a DCP-600

Damon Crockett _originally_ built these. He now runs AllTrax. You _might_bevable to get this directly from his company. Cheney Creek Rd. Grants Pass, OR 97527. Soft spot for on-road ppl. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 53 y.o.

[EVDL] J1772/Bolt issue

I have a Nissan Aerovironment unit that I charge my LEAF with fine, but that makes arcing sounds and shuts off periodically with my brother’s Bolt. Any idea what’s going on here? Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 53 y.o. vision,

Re: [EVDL] Leaf BMS

George, probably a stupid question, but I’m gathering you’ve already been on mynissanleaf.com? I don’t know if the moderators pull anything like that off immediately, but I look fwd to hearing what others have to say about this... Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of

Re: [EVDL] leaf milage cauculator

MyNissanleaf.com is specific to that EV. While I haven’t seen such s graph, I can tell you that you can lose LOTS of capacity bars and still get 10 miles range, even using air conditioning and even with a cold climate! Just for credibility purposes, 2013 LEAF; lost one power bar; 33k miles on

Re: [EVDL] DCP Raptor temp sensor?

Don’t quote me, but Damon Crockett, founder DCP, now works for AllTrax. They have a huge heart for on-road EVers. If it were me, I’d ask if there is any possibility of repair. Disclaimer: I live 20 mi. away from the company. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

My leaf averages 4.1 kWh/mi. Mostly in-town, which is close to your speed spec. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Nov 12, 2019, at

Re: [EVDL] Is it worth it?

In my opinion, it’s worth having batteries that go 10 ys over 3, and don’t need (human) equalizing! Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On

Re: [EVDL] Is it worth it?

Definitely range. 10-20% with lithium. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Jan 21, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Christopher Darilek via EV >

Re: [EVDL] pre-purchase inspection

I never buy a used car without a 100 point per-purchase inspection. Moved away from SOCAL year ago, sorry. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness.

Re: [EVDL] early leaf  mile years expectancy

Loved your post, but there are only 12 bars on a LEAF, not 13.  I lost my first, and so far, only bar on my 2013 the first year. That was charging to 80%, except for an occasional equalizing 100% each month. 40k miles now. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this

Re: [EVDL] More California (LA) used EV questions

Nissan sold their stake in AESC, who makes the batts. China bought, and promptly took price from 4500 to 7k; more than what the car blue books for. 2017 has a battery with lower longevity than prior models. RE: 80 mi range one-way: Perhaps, if not flying down the fwy at 70; not using heat;

Re: [EVDL] NMC backpedaling, 2be like TMC> 2sell EVs that aren’t EVs

1) Nissan joined anti global warming lobbying group; 2) inferior battery chemistry: AESC, instead of LG Chem; 3) Last to come to the 200 mi range club 4) Raised prices of replacement packs by selling stake in AESC to Chinese and The idiot thinks it’s about the “hassle of plugging in” No sir:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN status: format changes ...

Echoing exactly what David said. It’s people like you that helped me build Civicwithacord! Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Mar 13,

Re: [EVDL] DC charging damages EV packs (?fact or anti-EV-hype?)

On the flip side, my 2013 is the only model that can be programmed to take an 80%, as opposed to 100 charge, and I’ve only lost 1 power bar in 7 ys. BTW, it’s for sale for 9k in So OR, as I’ve got the hotties to do a Bolt with quite a bit more range.  Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any

Re: [EVDL] leaf 2011-12 or 2113

Go with my 40k 2013! The 2013s allow you to set them to take an 80% or 100% charge. It’s for sale on MEDFORD.craigslist.com, or contact me offline at: civicwithac...@yahoo.com Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive

Re: [EVDL] leaf cell imbalnce leaf spy

.02v higher. Hardly worth a mention. Nice pack with 48k miles and 87% state of health! Someone will get a good deal. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not

Re: [EVDL] Leaf balance after months of 80% charging

My experience has been same: more time from 80 to 100%, plus since current is tapering back, equalizing time as well. (7 yr old pack; 2013; charged to 80%, with once per month to 100%). Leafspy indicating 80% of original capacity. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the

[EVDL] wasRe: Leaf 12 v battery; now DCDC only

Your point is well-taken, but so much for ever helping a stranded motorist start up their ICE, even if it’s the EV owner’s backup car.  Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Leaf EV price drops> make the switch

Leaf drivers like me are excited to see 3rd party entities upgrade 24 kWh packs to 62. We’re hoping nissan will have the last laugh and come to the dance with its own upgrade. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. vision, hyperactive

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 v battery.

The LEAF originally comes with an AGM aux batt., FWIW. Mine was still 75% of rated capacity after 7.5 ys. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness.

Re: [EVDL] Leaf balance after months of 80% charging

Check out evrides LLC .com in Portland, and valley auto specialists in Salem. They ARE doing drop in packs from wrecked leafs. They will even swap in higher kWh of packs. I disagree with some ppl’s assessment about short longevity. ARSC is not LG Chem, but as I said, many of these packs will

Re: [EVDL] leaf battery 2012/ 2013

I’m anecdotal proof: I’m going on year 8 with my 2013, and the capacity still shows 80%. I charge to 80%, with a 100% charge every month or two to equalize. Lost a bar the first year of ownership, but nothing since. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this

Re: [EVDL] New Leaf owner

I’m hoping you are dabbling on myNissanLeaf.com. After all, there are the things they I can do to keep costs down, (swapping out a door handle); and the stuff I need to contract out— (upgrading a 24 kWh pack with 79% capacity for a 63 kWh at 90% capacity). I had my pack upgrade at EVRides LLC

Re: [EVDL] Parting out my 2011 LEAF SV

I know it’s a bit of a drive, but if you need any parts, EVRides LLC in Portland has a ton of LEAFs they get batteries from. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering—

Re: [EVDL] leaf 2013 charging

Menu < settings < 80% long life charge on the center console. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:37 PM, redscooter

Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

My 2013 has identical stats at 44k miles, 80% capacity bars. I’m excited to transport it to a tech 250 miles away who will put a 62 kWh pack from a totaled LEAF into mine. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. vision, hyperactive

Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

So bizarre. I lost my first bar after 11 MPs and not another since. LeafSpy app saying I’m at 79%. I don’t mind charging every trip during winter, but why should I when my wife’s Bolt is throwing down 225 mi/charge? Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this

Re: [EVDL] Affordable Long Range EV

My 2020 allows me charging options, similar to my 2013 LEAF. We set our preferences on the car (home charging option) to give it 80% for long life. But if we ever have a long road trip in it, the _away_charging option in the car is set for 100%. You need to set it up so that it recognizes where

Re: [EVDL] EV1

As a science teacher, I’m always looking for the next high tech, high paying jobs for my students. I invited an EV-1 dealer to my school in SoCal. The technology (particles in the glass to cut down on the amount of cooling necessary; rear wheels set 16” closer than the front) was

[EVDL] Anecdotal, LEAF

Just list my 2nd capacity bar. 8 years, 47,000 mi This is an early 2013, so happy about the longevity. Not so happy about only having what was state-of-the-art for then, 24 kWh. The 2013 allows toggling between 80 and 100%. Based on my lead acid experience with civicwithacord, I’ve tried

[EVDL] Melted LEAF charge port

Hey all, Went out to find my J1772 EVSE melted to my charge port. Nothing on my Nissanleaf.com, nor YouTube about installing $600 replacement harness and charge port. Given that Nissan wants 1200 shop time, I’m curious as to see if that’s a legit 8-10 hour process. And given the

[EVDL] Wiring PP/CP on J1772

Hey, It seems the electrician I hired to replace my melted J1772 plug ran the wiring _along_ the microswitch instead of underneath it. Upon testing, the new plug did not work. I’m hoping he didn’t mash the crap out of the wires and what appears to be a capacitor or some other discrete

Re: [EVDL] Melted LEAF charge port

(vc.pdf) file for >> instructions on removing the J1772 charge port. >> >> If you can find a wrecked Leaf in a Pull-a-part junkyard, it would be MUCH >> cheaper (and well within the ability of a garage mechanic) to swap it out >> yourself (on a 2013+...on a 2011/2012

Re: [EVDL] Melted LEAF charge port

ecked Leaf in a Pull-a-part junkyard, it would be MUCH > cheaper (and well within the ability of a garage mechanic) to swap it out > yourself (on a 2013+...on a 2011/2012I'm sure the wire snakes all over > the car and it might be easier just to have the shop do it for you > > Jay &

Re: [EVDL] Melted LEAF charge port

>> If you can find a wrecked Leaf in a Pull-a-part junkyard, it would be >> MUCH cheaper (and well within the ability of a garage mechanic) to swap >> it out yourself (on a 2013+...on a 2011/2012I'm sure the wire snakes >> all over the car and it might be easier just to have t

Re: [EVDL] Wiring PP/CP on J1772

impossible depending on how the cord is set up (many don't >> have a wire connected to the Proximity Pilot pin). >> >> My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key >> >> August 24, 2021 8:13 PM, "Bob Bath via EV" wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>&g

Re: [EVDL] Charging a BOLT from 120v

I haven’t seen that on our ‘20. Might be different on the Premier vs the LS or whatever our trim line is. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness.

Re: [EVDL] leaf battery for replacement

Check out evRidesllc.com. A 2013 can have a 62 kWh battery mine is living proof.  Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Oct 9, 2021, at

Re: [EVDL] Leaf tires. Michelin or OEM

I got barely 20k off Ecopia. In fairness, I rotated a little late, and figured a brand-new car shouldn’t need an alignment. Still… Michelin Energia fared a little better. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt 2020 50 mile Range Drop in One Year

It has not happened to my 2020. I also own a 2013 LEAF with the pack upgraded to 62 kWh by EVRides LLC. I would not advocate for a leaf as you’ll never get bolt range due to lack of thermal battery conditioning. My wife’s bolt will always kick my leaf’s butt and it can’t be traced to a 3 kWh

Re: [EVDL] speaking of range estimation

I’ve been impressed by the 2020 Bolt’s range predictions. Best case, worst case, and based on current consumption. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not

Re: [EVDL] grabby breakes 2012

I wonder if the team that did mine (62 kWh) at EVRides LLC can help you get your pack… Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Nov 2, 2021,

Re: [EVDL] leaf 24 kwh battery 2013

Pls see “lizard battery,” and ensuing discussion about shorter longevity. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Feb 28, 2022, at 2:19 PM,

Re: [EVDL] Melted LEAF charge port

> charger connectors get some serious abuse. > > Bill D. > > On 8/19/2021 3:38 PM, Bob Bath via EV wrote: > > Hey all, > >    Went out to find my J1772 EVSE melted to my charge port. > > Nothing on my Nissanleaf.com, nor YouTube about installing $600 replacement > >

Re: [EVDL] leaf 2012 kw conversion to 40kw diy

Evridesllc.com will tell you for sure, but from everything I’ve read, packs are matched to car and harnesses have changed. This, you need an interface. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what

Re: [EVDL] Leak pack swap, offlist

MyNissanleaf.com has a thread with the different swappers businesses. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Apr 7, 2022, at

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

I paid 12.5 k on the west coast. Nissan will not do it. Requires suspension upgrade. 62 kWh pack is heavier. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering—

Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

I charge a 2013 LEAF 62 kWh upgrade with a J1772. Depleted, it’s about 5 hrs. (32A, 220V), FWIW. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not

Re: [EVDL] leaf conbus translation box

You may want to talk to EVRidesLLC.com. They likely can and will help. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Jul 24, 2022,

Re: [EVDL] EV school buses

Totally concur, but the companies coming to the dance at this point (ie have product) are less than stellar. There are also infrastructure issues needing to be addressed as well (ie adding level 3 charging at the bus shed). Sadly, my district in southern oregon will not be a “pioneer”, but

Re: [EVDL] EV school buses

Our supt said 275k. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Oct 27, 2022, at 10:44 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt battery recall

I have a 2020 and Jim sigel (grants pass) and Airport Chevy (Medford) won’t give me the time of day until more 2017s etc are done. I feel your pain. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 57 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

This entire thread is at once spot.on, and amusing. I’m 57, so I remember GM crapping on the EV movement with their proprietary Magnecharge system; lease-only EV-1, and lobbying against clean air mandates. It disgusted me and I vowed never to buy GM. Fast forward 30 years. I have a 20 GM

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

EVRides in Portland is all I know. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Willie via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt Battery recall fix with software?

They will fix their potential to be sued. 2020 Bolt owner here. When I went in for the software update, I lost 1/3 of my range. Still waiting for my battery replacement. They’re doing 2017-19 first. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are

Re: [EVDL] Which sex buys more EVs?

I’d read an article about women being more concerned about being stranded without a charge. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 57 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness.

Re: [EVDL] Hyper 9 low-end performance problem

I wonder if Damon Crockett at AllTrax, original designer— can help you. Peter Senkowski took over the Raptors later. Damon is a great guy and has a passion for on road. Nothing to lose… Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 57 y.o.