Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 44, Issue 22

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jan Steinman via EV wrote: At that level, the battery has to dissipate only 400 milliwatts, which it should be able to do without damage under almost any circumstance. You'd be surprised. A good new AGM or gel battery can easily go over 13.8v even with just 5-10ma. It takes a long time to get

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and (series//parallel)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: That was also my immediate thought (being an engineer) so all I can think is that the solar roofing is directional, like shingles, so you can't flip it around. They could have made two variants though, one with + at top and one at bottom, so you just would have to a

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Lee, I can see that you did not proof-read your mail, Thanks, Cor! Egads, I'm typing faster than I'm thinking. Your corrections are all right on the money. :-) - the two zeners are chosen so the sum of the voltages is the desired output voltage *plus* the drop

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: What happens when you might forever overcharge a CAR battery with 30 mA (during daylight). Most car batteries are flooded (i.e. not sealed). If you continuously charge them, once they reach "full" they simply convert the excess charging current into heat and gass

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
dovepa via EV wrote: Isn't that what a trickle charger does? I know lots of people who leave them on all the time. People mix up "float" and "trickle" chargers all the time. But they are quite different devices. A "trickle" charger delivers a more-or-less constant CURRENT, regardless of the

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: For many years, I have used a "take-out" UPS battery to keep my internet, WiFi and VoIP powered through regular power outages, always floating it to 13.5V... I can second Cor's advice. 13.5v is a good float voltage; better than the usual 13.8v you'll find in most

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging... and AC disconnects?

2016-06-10 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: For one thing, you can test the controller on the bench, with a light bulb in place of the motor, a 5k potentiometer for the throttle pot, and a simple DC power source for input power. Bingo! Ill disconnect the motor and hook up a few thousand watts of lights inst

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...

2016-06-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Old Honda Civic EV conversion troubles (after 2 years of abandonment). Hi, Robert. These all sound very normal. 1) PbAcid batteries are stll hissing 8 hours after the first charge in a year was removed? All ten batteries were between 13.5 and 14.5 under charge wh

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and (series//parallel)

2016-06-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: There is no way you can wire 14 solar panels (10' by 20') array in parallel with the "same wire sizes and lengths" (and loss) compared to series. Physically impossible. Bob, "impossible" is not a useful word here. I'm not trying to argue or "win". I just want to

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Re RMS: This stuff is tricky. I don't blame folks for being confused. If you're powering a resistive load, AC RMS and DC are identical. Line losses are the same. The resistance in the wire is no different than the resistance in the load. The losses and power dissipated in both of them are the

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Still not true. The output of microinverters is at 240 VAC and the average current in the wires will be double as the same number of panels at 480 VDC. But each microinverter has its own wire. The total current may be twice as much in a 240v system as in a 480v

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I think Lee was referring to how you wire the panels together, not the house. You could wire your panels in parallel and, as long as your inverter is near the panels, not incur any more line losses than a series system. Right! PV panels are physically large, even larg

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
David Kerzel wrote: In example 1 series you have 2 12 inch leads out of the pack. In example 2 parallel you use all the leads to connect them together and the 12 inch leads out of the pack are missing, They would add .001 ohm each if the same size wire which is a second 40 watts. View with a f

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: The only time high voltage helps is when you need to have long wire runs... The operative word is "long" And when you wire a house for every room and for every appliance and for every outlet (whether used fully or not) then every wire is "long". What is "long"

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Larry Gales via EV wrote: Thanks, I was somewhat aware of the increased use of copper, but not to the extent that you specify, so it looks like AC is the way to go, even for off-grid solar. Lower voltage means higher current and bigger wires; but it's not as bad as you think. First, consider

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Collins via EV wrote: The resting voltage of a lead acid battery is significantly lower than the voltage required to charge it. For example: a fully charged 12 volt battery has a resting voltage of 12.6, but will not draw much current unless you apply 13.5 volts or so. This means that when y

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Barry Oppenheim via EV wrote: Slightly OT, does anyone have a good way to add manual function to a HV contactor? It would be nice to be able to turn on the DC/DC converter manually in case of 12V failure without having to rig a jumper. I vaguely remember that one of the OEM EV's had such a butt

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Is it more expensive to design semiconductors to switch 10 amps at 12 volts, or 0.4 amps at 300 volts? That's not a rhetorical question: I don't know. You generally pay by the watt. Similar price to switch 12v at 100a, or 120v at 10a, etc. You could regulat

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I've never tried this, but I've heard (probably here on the EVDL) of using a PWM DC motor controller for this purpose. You'd probably need an inductor in series with its output to simulate motor inductance, so the controller's current limiting circuit would have

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Why don't you try to connect the two first and see if there is a problem that you want to solve, instead of first building a solution and then finding out that it is not needed at all? That's a good idea. If these are big low-resistance AGMs at significantly diff

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Alan Brinkman via EV wrote: For someone new to electric vehicles, and for a majority of conversions, a 12 volt accessory battery is the simple means to power accessories. That's right. The KISS solution is a 12v accessory battery. Even Tesla is using a 12v lead-acid accessory battery. Some

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
John Lussmyer wrote: Putting 300VDC at the fingertips of the driver and passengers? Note that normal 240vac has a peak of around 340v. High-power accessories like heaters, air conditioners, power steering pumps, etc. could run directly from the 300vdc. They would be hard wired, so consumers

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mike Nickerson wrote: Hi Lee, I don't think that is how in rush current limiters work. I use them to protect my DC-DC converter caps so they don't get whacked with a high in rush current when the connection is first made. You're right. My explanation was not at all clear. I was staying up to

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Michael Ross via EV wrote: Mike is correct - a single old inefficient panel can draw a sustained arc an inch or longer. Some decent sized farms have burned down because you can't just turn off the sun. There are important safety concern to learn about. 120v DC was used for power distribution in

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Roland via EV wrote: A dead 12 volt battery is the problem when you have your control circuits in your EV run by 12 volts. My first EV that I received back in 1976 and still have it today, uses LINE voltage to run all the control circuits. LINE voltage is the same voltage as the main battery.

Re: [EVDL] Dead accessory battery... Drill baby drill

2016-06-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I'm so fed up with 12v batteries I finally today drilled a hole in the roof right over the dome light and mounted a solar panel up there where I could reach the wires and coathanger them over to the pillar and down to the stupid 12v battery. Great idea. I did this

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: If the long term current draw will be less than 10A or so, you could use an in rush limiting resistor. That is a resistor with a negative temperature coefficient. When cool, they have a very high resistance. As they heat up, their resistance drops. This is pro

Re: [EVDL] Ground Faults

2016-06-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: One solution is to make sure you have a good ground connection and not use GFCI. That was my solution for years with floodeds. Use an isolation transformer. Plug the charger into it. It's a straightforward and safe solution. I still have some big 2kw 120/240va

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Basically, the chart says that it you compare the various energy storage technologies, some are well suited for discharging over short time periods and some for long, and some are well-suited for storing large amounts of energy, and some smaller. Here's a simila

Re: [EVDL] Conversion planning

2016-05-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Alan Brinkman via EV wrote: Some of the older Datsun mini-trucks had a rear axle ratio that would have the drive shaft spinning faster and some conversions did without the transmission. The few I looked at on the EV Album had a 4.88 rear end. I also like the old

Re: [EVDL] Charger connector options

2016-05-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Christopher Darilek via EV wrote: How would you mount the car-side PowerPole connector? Pigtail somewhere? I have a hole in the side of my car I'd like to use to mount it.. Anderson Power Products has a huge variety of housings that the individual Powerpoles snap into. The housings are used

Re: [EVDL] Charger connector options

2016-05-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: Christopher Darilek: I'm ready to upgrade my charger connector... My charge rate is 18A @100V. I think I need 5 connections: +100V, battery ground, +12V, chassis ground, and BMS output to turn the charger Off. I'd like for the connector to be accessible without opening the hood. What do

Re: [EVDL] Hub motors = Bad Idea in a highway capable car

2016-05-15 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Michael Ross wrote: Lots to like about this effort, and the video is easy to watch, and provocative in good ways. Bill D mentions unsprung weight. If you aren't a performance nut you can manage clunky handling. Bet those 4 motors aren't heavier that 4 steel truck wheels. I generally agree with

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Prof. Clare Grey defending her LiO2 (fluffy carbon) battery paper

2016-05-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Sean Korb via EV wrote: This is the sort of thing where I should study the paper, read the dissents and then give my completely unscientific opinion as if it were fact. Yes indeed. :-) Some basic physics: Imagine you're trying to invent a new battery. You assume one molecule each of the two r

Re: [EVDL] 72 volt swapable scooter battery

2016-05-10 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie2 via EV wrote: I've bought several such things through AliExpress from 24v up to 144v. Typically sold as ebike batteries. SB50 connectors are common. http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=lithium+ebike+batteries Lee will tell you, and I don't question him, that Ping is the quali

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: ?L3 quick charging or pack swaps, on long EV trips? (v)

2016-05-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
dovepa via EV wrote: He says: Imagine that now you're driving your car, and let's say its 40 percent or 50 percent empty," de Callafon said. "You would have to charge it. Here you could actually take, if you have 10 modules in your car, and take five out — those are the ones that are empty — and

Re: [EVDL] Hotel Chargers

2016-04-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote: >> head to Finland! After 2017 tours available to new battery factory too. ;) >From: Willie2 via EV >You are teasing us, Jukka? Yes, in a way. :-) But i should point out that if the original poster is travelling in the northern USA, essentially every motel already

Re: [EVDL] J1772. Solder or crimp?

2016-04-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Dube via EV wrote: Harbor Freight sells an outstanding hydraulic crimper at a bargain price: http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html For $55 there is no reason to use a hammer crimper. I have used the next size up from this one, made by the same manufacturer, fo

Re: [EVDL] J1772. Solder or crimp?

2016-04-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I agree that a hex crimper is better, and I recommend one if you're pulling currents upwards of 600+ amps. However, I've used a hammer crimper for years with currents <= 400a, and have never yet had a problem. I think the trick is to use a heavy enough hammer -

Re: [EVDL] J1772. Solder or crimp?

2016-04-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Michael Ross via EV wrote: I have to give Jay big yay for the perfect answer. Solder loses any ability to create a useful joint when it liquifies, hence the need for some very solid mechanical joining means. The failure modes are truly bad with power involved. Agreed; a good answer. Solder is

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: SAE in Tesla-3 denial> unmentioned as if they didn’t exist> worrisome

2016-04-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Sitting there listening to the speakers going on about their business as if Tesla doesn´t exist had me wondering if history is going to repeat itself with a twist. I don't even see a twist. It's almost exactly the same as when Detroit ignored all the subcompac

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Miners pin hopes on Electric copper-cars

2016-04-14 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie2 via EV wrote: On 04/14/2016 03:56 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 14 Apr 2016 at 0:06, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Copper remains the best electrical conductor available Nope, that would be silver. Now, if you consider cost-effectiveness, that's another matter. But that's not what

Re: [EVDL] Free Street Light L1 charging?

2016-04-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I wouldn't even bother asking. http://la.curbed.com/2014/12/23/10008768/metro-has-arrested-people-for- charging-their-phones-at-stations http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/12/oregon-homeless-woman-charged- with-electricity-theft-for-charging-her-cellphone/

Re: [EVDL] EV Question

2016-04-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote: I suggest all EV charging spots to have a cone or something which says explicitly only EV's allowed. It's less trouble to get off the EV and move the cone compared to blocked charging when needed. Hmmm; that makes me think. What about some kind of gate that blocks t

Re: [EVDL] article:The world's largest electric vehicle travels soon in Switzerland

2016-03-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I'll bet that the unloaded vehicle going down the hill does not produce more electricity than it consumes going up the hill. Unless some exceedingly large-headed politician (thinks he) has managed to change the laws of physics, that'd be a pretty safe bet. :-)

Re: [EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

2016-03-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: it mentions the product is - Safety listed by ETL I know UL, but what is ETL? ETL is a competitor of UL. Same kinds of testing; just a different test lab (and usually cheaper). Both UL and ETL are independent testing companies. You pay them to test your product. They

Re: [EVDL] battery box

2016-03-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie2 wrote: I'm looking for a source for a weather tight, probably fiberglass, box. About 4'x6' and 2' high with a lift-up top. Can anyone suggest? Some custom fiberglass shop? Chris Tromley via EV wrote: What you're attempting to do is pretty simple, so just about any fiberglass shop cou

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: I'm interested in this idea of 'violations' Home Depot/Lowes/Ace Hardware/and many other hardware/electrical stores sell replacement cords for appliances, where you, the homeowner can replace a cord with a new one. Does that void the UL guarantee and NEC (if there is

Re: [EVDL] Rudman MK2 pic

2016-03-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
David Chapman via EV wrote: Here is a link to the pic that didnt upload, thanks David R.! rudman mk2 regboardhttp://postimg.org/image/g1e2uxah3/ I have exactly this board assembled. If someone wants to assemble your boards, I can send him a photo that shows what all the parts are. Or, I could

Re: [EVDL] Brushed bicycle hub motor?

2016-03-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Is there any reason you couldn't build a simple series-parallel stepped contactor controller? A contactor controller works, is cheap, and about as simple as dirt. The controller itself is essentially 100% efficient; it's nothing but switches, after all. Howe

Re: [EVDL] Brushed bicycle hub motor?

2016-03-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Gary Neal via EV wrote: I'm advising a group competing in the Shell Ecomarathon competition (http://www.shell.com/energy-and-innovation/shell-ecomarathon/americas.html) We previously powered our vehicle with a 36V, brushless DC hub motor designed for bicycles. The problem is Shell requires a mot

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Batteries are King (A Gigafactory Challenge)

2016-03-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: I know it's been looked at in more recent years, but the actual reasons for no one implementing such a scheme has, to me, been lost in the noise. Actually, battery leasing is very common for commercial and industrial EVs (fork lifts, golf carts, etc.) Fleet operat

Re: [EVDL] Nissan changing telematics hardware and carrier

2016-02-29 Thread Lee Hart via EV
We got the notice too, for our 2013 Leaf. Seems kind of soon to discontinue online connect-ability. This could be an unpleasant "surprise" for cars in the future that depend on on-line connect-ability to work! I wonder what Nissan is planning to charge to upgrade their service? Peri Hartman v

Re: [EVDL] Zelectric conversions. 0 to 60's in seconds...but for $130, 000???

2016-02-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: When I realized I couldn't build a nice electric car for what I could buy one for I gave up and bought a used Leaf EV. So did I. We added a 2013 Leaf to my EV collection. It's hard to beat the fit/finish/features for the price. It's my wife's car. She prefers the

Re: [EVDL] Electric Coop magazine article on historic EV

2016-02-17 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Fascinating! I hadn't heard of the Fritchle EV before. 100 miles on a charge was an amazing achievement, especially considering the roads in those days. I wonder if there are any details about his batteries? -- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James -- Lee A. Hart http://www.sun

Re: [EVDL] Avcon to J1772 works great for 2 minutes

2016-02-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: Lawrence Rhodes > The trigger works. Press & it stops charging. But after 2 minutes more or > less it just quits. The MCS100-III has a couple of lights which doesn't > light. 120v&240v selector which doesn't seem to care what setting it is on.   > The unit was made in 1997 & has been out of

Re: [EVDL] Maybe it's better to go bigger when doing a solar vehicle.

2016-02-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: The Ultra Van is a unique motor home. I've seen an UltraVan, and they are indeed about as close as you can get to an airplane on wheels without the wings. It is completely smooth underneath, as well as on the sides and top. I don't know what the Cd is, but it mu

Re: [EVDL] A couple of Leaf observations. With more added on.

2016-02-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes wrote: I noticed Lee Hart saying he doesn't charge to 100%. Why. Simple. I don't need the range. So there's no need to charge it to 100% or run it dead. And, there are reasons *not* to do it. My experience (with all types of batteries) has been that they last longer if they

Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I was considering buying an emergency flashlight that stays plugged in all the time, automatically turns on when the power goes off (like a commercial emergency light) but can be grabbed and used as a flashlight. Made in China. From stories like these I decided not to -

Re: [EVDL] A couple of Leaf observations.

2016-02-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Lawrence, you get amazing range. I wish I could get range like that. Although I have to admit it's rare that I take it further than about 10 miles on the freeway. The majority is on hilly, stop & go city streets where I get closer to 2.5 to 3.5 miles / kwh. Out of curio

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I'm probably swimming against the current here, but I don't think this reflects well on Tesla. The blogger wasn't very polite, but these days everybody's a critic. You expect that in business. IMO, the best response to a post like that is to say "Thanks for you

Re: [EVDL] Alltrax controller fun

2016-02-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Dan Baker via EV wrote: I'm not sure how many of us use Alltrax controllers in their EVs but I wanted to share a learning experience I had with one. I purchased an AXE-7245 3 years ago and last summer it started acting up where it would not boot in my boat (http://www.evalbum.com/4767). It appe

Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem

2016-02-01 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I am sure that this test is done in software just to verify that everything works, just like there is a special relay that will *create* a GFCI event just to test the detection of GFCI before relying on it. Most standards actually do not specify what happens in tran

Re: [EVDL] Wiring for 6 KW charger

2016-01-31 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: I bought a dryer replacement cord with a 3-prong plug and a matching socket (10-30R)... it says "3-pole, 3-wire, non-grounding"... Is this an appropriate combination to feed the 6kw charger on my Leaf, using the OpenEVSE? I don't know about your openEVSE, but this

Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car. 

2016-01-31 Thread Lee Hart via EV
There are two ways to look at this problem: From an engineering point of view, and from a marketing/legal perspective. From an engineering standpoint, there is no doubt that a safe high-performance 4-passenger EV could be built that's under 1000 lbs. Reducing the weight scales down the whole p

Re: [EVDL] Electric Microlino> The 'Bubble Car' Reborn Electric

2016-01-27 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Can you tell I'm skeptical? It's an interesting idea, guys, but I'm afraid you have a big challenge ahead. A certain amount of this is trolling for publicity and investors. One marketing research technique is to write press releases for a fake product (comput

Re: [EVDL] Installing External Charge Access

2016-01-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
tomw via EV wrote: No manufactured ev other than Tesla with an adapter can make use of your NEMA 14-50. They all use either standard 120V outlet, L1, or require a J1772 plug to use L2. Not quite true. We have a Leaf. Indeed, the only way to charge it is via its J1772 connector. However, it

Re: [EVDL] FCA CEO Marchionne> EV technology risks automaker “disintermediation”

2016-01-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: Renault-Nissan CEO Ghosn says in so many words, resistance [to EVs] is futile... Sergio Marchionne [Fiat Chysler CEO] admitted very directly... a key reason he detests the EV revolution: it takes away the core competitive advantage of automakers. They have outsourced much o

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Apparently it is Mastervolt indeed, they have a BattMan Pro and a BattMan Lite http://www.mastervolt.us/new-products/ It looks like the Pro has a large digit readout and stores past events while the Lite has a large bar readout (and small digits) and no history. htt

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet via EV wrote: I'm looking for an AH meter for my truck... I'm willing to pay extra to have it use a hall effect sensor (as opposed to a shunt), as I don't need it to be terribly accurate and for my mounting position a hall effect will be easier/cleaner. Hall sensors are fine for meas

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
http://evolveelectrics.com/displays/tbs-e-xpert-pro/ Jay Summet via EV wrote: Thanks for the link, yes, that would work. This looks like a rebranded Xantrex LinkPro meter. The original was the Cruising Equipment E-meter. They were bought out by Heart Interface and it become the Link-10. The

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Chargers

2016-01-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Dube via EV wrote: There is just one on-board charger. The 2011 to 2012 models have a 3.3 kW on-board charger. Later models have a 6.6 kW charger. I've never seen Nissan's "fast" charging setup. What is it, exactly? There is obviously a second charging connector. I don't know if it's

Re: [EVDL] Converting '51 Chevy pickup: Books on converting a car to ev?

2016-01-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: I'm retired so don't have a daily commute, but it is 30 miles to my doctor, dentist and whole foods for grocery shopping. I only drive when I need something. Same for me. I'm 65, and live in a small town. I can drive from one end to the other and back again a few ti

Re: [EVDL] Converting '51 Chevy pickup: Books on converting a car to ev?

2016-01-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Michael Ross via EV wrote: Here's what you need to SWAG the utility of PV panels on the truck... Michael starts out strong, but wanders off before getting to the final result. Let's try again. Let's pick a PV panel as a test case. A quick Google search to "buy PV panels" takes us to http://

Re: [EVDL] Converting '51 Chevy (after going off rid?)...

2016-01-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: The grid is "free storage" for now in some areas, but I predict that net metering will be dead in 10 years. Powerful and well connnected (politically, not electrically) people don't like it, and they have state legislatures in their pockets. This strikes me as

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Chargers

2016-01-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: Does anyone know if the Leaf with 6.6KW onboard charger is supposed to come with a different kind of EVSE? Or is the "trickle charge" just that, regardless of the car's ability to charge faster? What year? I have a 2013 Leaf. It only has the stock "normal" charger;

Re: [EVDL] Converting '51 Chevy pickup: Books on converting a car to ev?

2016-01-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bobby Keeland wrote: Perhaps I can add solar panels on a rack over the pickup so that it is recharging whenever the sun is shining. Bill Woodcock via EV wrote: Adjust your expectations a bit there… It won’t move the needle. Good PV panels over the bed and (and perhaps the cab roof) will giv

Re: [EVDL] Series motor overspeed protection

2016-01-15 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Please tell us more details of your conversion: make, model, year, and how you are driving it. Bill C. via EV wrote: It's a 2002 Ford Focus with and ADC 9 inch motor and Curtis controller, driven mostly on flat roads. It's wired to open the main contactor when the accelerator is released, so I

Re: [EVDL] Leaf donor car? Re: Books on converting a car to ev?

2016-01-14 Thread Lee Hart via EV
dovepa via EV wrote: You left out the fact that series motors get too hot when operated at highway speed for extended periods of time. With the advance in battery technology this is causing some people issues. Series motors intended for on-road EVs have built-in fans. I've never needed to pr

Re: [EVDL] Sizzling and steaming cooked (RIP) flooded battery ...

2016-01-10 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Bob Rice used to call them "Trojan Teakettles." ;-) ...plus a few more colorful adjectives. :-) When I was running the C-car, I had a panel with 8 edgewise expanded-scale voltmeters to monitor individual batteries. (It's probably still somewhere in the garag

Re: [EVDL] Happy 1975 Cheesewedge in Indiana for sale (CitiCar by Sebring Vanguard)

2016-01-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 9 Jan 2016 at 12:56, Lee Hart via EV wrote: The ComutaVan fixed most of the concerns with the early CitiCars. I never owned one, but from what I could see of them from a distance, I think you're right. At one time I considered buying a partly g

Re: [EVDL] Happy 1975 Cheesewedge in Indiana for sale (CitiCar by Sebring Vanguard)

2016-01-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Just some more or less random thoughts: An excellent summary, David. A few things I can add from my experience with the ComutaVan: The ComutaVan fixed most of the concerns with the early CitiCars. Longer wheelbase, bigger tires, better brakes, and better sho

Re: [EVDL] Happy 1975 Cheesewedge in Indiana for sale (CitiCar by Sebring Vanguard)

2016-01-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I have one of those too! But weeds are growing inside and out the missing windows after being ignored for 30 years... Mine is bright yellow, a true cheese... Got the other THINK and a Honda Civic conversion to get running first... Ah, that brings back memories.

Re: [EVDL] Pack HV Fuse question

2016-01-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Alan Arrison via EV wrote: If the fuse doesn't list a DC rating then don't use it with DC. That's good advice if you're buying something new, or selling products that have to meet specs. However, in many cases the only difference between a fuse with AC only and AC/DC ratings is that they di

Re: [EVDL] Melted fuse leg (not blown fuse!)

2016-01-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet via EV wrote: Is it correct to assume that a 40 amp fuse rated for 240-600 volts will also work just fine at 12 volts? (but not the other way around) It will work, but will also have a higher voltage drop. Small, low-voltage fuses generally have less DC resistance than a high-vo

Re: [EVDL] Melted fuse leg (not blown fuse!)

2016-01-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet via EV wrote: Has anybody ever melted the plastic and holder of an Automotive ATC fuse, without blowing the fuse itself? Impressively melted photos here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2016/01/04/melted-fuse-leg/ Two possibilities occur to me: 1. Fuseholder not rated for the current. 30

Re: [EVDL] Upgraded heater

2015-12-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
John Lussmyer via EV wrote: I just upgraded the heater in my truck from a single ceramic core (nominal 1500W) to 2 of them. Measurements show that I'm getting about 2000W of heat total when the fan is on hi. Even though each core is wired for 240 VAC, and I'm driving it with 327VDC. Wonder if

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000km Bridgestone World Solar Challenge

2015-12-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Alan Arrison via EV wrote: There is simply no way a viable, fully enclosed, highway capable, electric vehicle ( that can pass safety tests ) can do anywhere near 55wh per mile. "Well now, I wouldn't say that..." (catchphrase of Richard Q. Peavey character, from The Great Gildersleeve). James

Re: [EVDL] A L2-3kW EVSE to replace Steve's WA-storm-damaged one

2015-12-10 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet via EV wrote: Even if the electronics are fried, the cord/gun could be connected up with an Open EVSE type kit to make a new one and retain a lot of the value. That sounds like a winner. :-) If I had it, I might try to fix it; but if that failed, just use the parts to build a new on

Re: [EVDL] Archaic red tape threatens New_Orleans-LA home-EVSE (v)

2015-12-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: ... Ghelase said he’s been told his charger is in violation of the law and he has to shut it down, giving him no way to keep his electric vehicle operating. From the city’s perspective... for safety reasons, the law prohibits allowing electrical wires to cross property lin

Re: [EVDL] Coal in Your Stocking

2015-12-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
lektwik via EV wrote: Reading this made me think about the great EV-related stories Lee has written over the years. A Christmas Car, By Lee Hart http://www.evdl.org/pages/xmascar.html How The Grinch Sold Green-ness, by Lee A. Hart http://www.davesevs.com/grinch.htm More here- http://www.evdl.o

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV
I assume that most EVs in the UK would be charged overnight at home. Doesn't the UK have the same situation as the USA with there being a large surplus of power at night, and shortages only happen during the daytime? Widespread EV use is generally found to *help* the grid, by leveling power usa

Re: [EVDL] EVSE for U.S. Fed. employees!

2015-12-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: I would be interested to know how the EVSE gets implemented. Whether it is just a simple set 5-15 outlets installed in the back of a remote Gov. employee's parking lot, or an over blown (expensive) 6kW j1772 mistakenly installed in primo (most-wanted/front) parking spots.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Improving an EV’s Cabin Heating System

2015-12-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Slide11.jpg (schematic) Tesla patent shows waste heat from the drive motor and electronics being used to heat the cabin I did this way back in the 1970's. There should be a description of my system on the EVDL archive

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Improving an EV’s Cabin Heating System

2015-12-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Didn't the EV1 have a heat pump system pretty much identical to this? If so, how can Tesla patent it? First, you can always get a "design" patent. This is like patenting not the wheel itself; but your particular design of it (with, for example, square spokes

Re: [EVDL] Electric Snowblower Conversion

2015-12-01 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Dennis via EV wrote: Combine a copious annual snowfall with a long steep driveway and you'll understand why I've got such a monster of a snow blower sitting in my garage (30 inches wide, 24 inches high, 8 horsepower engine). I'd like to go electric, but I've never seen an electric snow blow

Re: [EVDL] Any recent surveys or focus groups of EV owners? (burning coal?)

2015-12-01 Thread Lee Hart via EV
A related question, if I may? Once upon a time, everyone burned coal in factories, businesses, and homes for heating and cooking. City air quality was often atrocious. There were even some epidemics and mass deaths as a result. I remember my grandparents using coal, at least into the late 195

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Holy Crap, Used Leafs Are Incredibly Cheap

2015-11-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lee Hart wrote: you have to expect that the batteries will get worse over time. All batteries do. Ben Goren wrote: True in practice for today's EVs, but _not_ true as an absolute rule. Iron Edison-style batteries have functionally limitless lifespans, though they're much too heavy for use in a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Holy Crap, Used Leafs Are Incredibly Cheap

2015-11-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz wrote: > Stock price is irrelevant to the value of a company's used product. > Frequently also irrelevant to the value of the underlying company. Agreed. Stock price was just an easy way to demonstrate that the market price for something does not always reflect its value. In parti

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Holy Crap, Used Leafs Are Incredibly Cheap

2015-11-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
'Leaf’s depreciation is comparable to a pack of Sharpies left out in the sun with their caps off' Hyperbole aside, the used price of something is irrelevant unless you need to sell it. For example, Tesla's stock price is a roller-coaster. It was at 287 in Sept 2014, and down to 181 in March

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