On Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:56:58 AM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:
On 13 October 2013 17:40, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:
wrote:
I don't believe in philosophical zombies. I use puppet because a puppet
implies an absence of conscious presence, which is an ordinary condition of
On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:40, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Bruno: We need only a good dreamer, and the discovery of the
relative universal numbers
Richard: Who other than humans can do that?
? The answer is the Löbian number (the so called sufficiently rich
theories, which exists in arithmetic,
On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:28, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno, I can't help it: I liked Richard's interjection. Arithmetics
(even in your fundamental vision - I suppose) needs 'human logic' to
propagate etc.,
Yes. Like galaxies needs human teacher in astronomy to propagate in
human children
On 12 Oct 2013, at 22:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/12/2013 10:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Oct 2013, at 03:25, meekerdb wrote:
So there are infinitely many identical universes preceding a
measurement. How are these universes distinct from one another?
Do they divide into two
On 12 Oct 2013, at 22:47, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sunday, 13 October 2013, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Oct 2013, at 09:49, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Because the article is consistent with my view that there is a
fundamental difference between quantitative tasks and aesthetic
On 13 Oct 2013, at 06:40, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:27:08 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Oct 2013, at 09:49, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:32:49 PM UTC-4, stathisp
On 13 Oct 2013, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 10/12/2013 12:49 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Yes, but you see, even the food we get from the restaurant, is
delicious. Why would it be delicious, assuming COMP. How could the
On 13 October 2013 15:29, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Perform to whose satisfaction? A cadaver can be made to twitch, or
propped up to stand.
Perform to the satisfaction of anyone you care to nominate. A committee of
humans examine two people who have had a haircut, one from
On 13 Oct 2013, at 08:35, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Maybe this will help. Here are two criticisms of comp, and two
hypotheses which aim for a more mathematical treatment of PIP
principles under MSR.
Presumption of repeatability (PR) - By overlooking the possibility
of absolute uniqueness,
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:05:46AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Oct 2013, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 10/12/2013 12:49 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Yes, but you see, even the food we get from the restaurant, is
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:04:53 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Oct 2013, at 08:35, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Maybe this will help. Here are two criticisms of comp, and two hypotheses
which aim for a more mathematical treatment of PIP principles under MSR.
*
Presumption of
On 13 Oct 2013, at 12:24, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:05:46AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Oct 2013, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 10/12/2013 12:49 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Yes, but you
On 13 Oct 2013, at 12:56, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Bruno: ? The answer is the Löbian number (the so called sufficiently
rich theories, which exists in arithmetic, in a variety of relative
way).
Richard: If the Lobian number exists, why are humans or aliens
needed at all?
They are needed
On 13 Oct 2013, at 15:20, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:04:53 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Oct 2013, at 08:35, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Maybe this will help. Here are two criticisms of comp, and two
hypotheses which aim for a more mathematical treatment of PIP
Bruno,
Even in my Metaverse String cosmology I can understand how from the
beginning of the Metaverse how its machine can generate all Lobian numbers
including arithmetic humans and aliens long before our universe exists and
evolves conscious physical beings. What I do not understand is why those
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
if you agree that each copy (the W-man, and the M-man) get one bit of
information,
I agree that if that one bit of information that they both
On 10/13/2013 1:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Oct 2013, at 22:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/12/2013 10:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Oct 2013, at 03:25, meekerdb wrote:
So there are infinitely many identical universes preceding a measurement. How are
these universes distinct from one
On 13 October 2013 19:35, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
*
Presumption of repeatability* (PR) - By overlooking the possibility of
absolute uniqueness, comp must conceive of all events as locally documented
stereotypes of a Platonic template rather than true originals. This
Dear Telmo,
in spite of my reluctance to spend time and energy on that nightmare of
teleportation-related follies - (probably a result of too heavy dinners
after which Q-physicists could not sleep/relax) - and with no intention to
protect John Clark (a decent partner anyway) I may draw a thick
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 04:25:50PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Oct 2013, at 12:24, Russell Standish wrote:
How do we know that those 3 hypostases exhaust the possibilities for
logics containing true but incommunicable sentences?
Who ever said that they exhaust them?
On the
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
if you agree that each copy (the W-man, and the M-man) get one
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