Re: For the love of God can someone please unsubscribe me from this gobshite list?

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Re: My final word on the MWI --

We need a safe space-time No universe was burned in the making of this email 2018-07-26 19:18 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal : > > On 26 Jul 2018, at 13:06, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > -- a mental illness, verging on, but not quite a form of insanity. AG > > > > That was like the final word of

Re: Is AI really a threat to mankind?

intelligent. 2017-12-06 14:40 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Yes. we are all robots. You are the only human mmwwahahah > > > > Every decade it is predi

Re: Is AI really a threat to mankind?

Yes. we are all robots. You are the only human mmwwahahah Every decade it is predicted that 50 years from now AI would surpass human beings. The level of AI was pathetic 50 years ago. It is pathethic now and will be pathetic 50 years later. 2017-11-27 22:32 GMT+01:00

Re: An AI program that teaches itself

Neural networks are not about artificial intelligence, but about artificial intuition. As you said, AlphaGo -a neural network application- can not answer the question why you did that move?. If they could answer, the answer would be ever the same: " I don´t know, I moved this because if found

Re: From Atheism to Islam

Lol. There is no way to avoid the absolute since nothing can be based on nothing,. In this case you reify nothing, which is purely negative, as absence of anything,, and convert it to "something". And this something that you implicitly postulate is an absolute ethical principle of humility, which

Re: How Math Works

Science advance one funeral at a time. Max Planck http://www.nber.org/digest/mar16/w21788.html 2017-01-25 10:53 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal : > > On 23 Jan 2017, at 18:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3947 >> > > > So true. > > Bruno > > > >> --

Re: Native Hawaiian Religious Imbeciles

hehehe Sorry friends, but there is no better cure for a liberal than seeing his own caricature in the face of another liberal slightly more radical 2016-01-04 1:16 GMT+01:00 John Clark : > > ​O​ > n Sun, Jan 3, 2016 Telmo Menezes wrote: > > ​>> ​

the incredible proof machine. A graphical logical proof engine

I think that modal logics can be created too: http://incredible.nomeata.de/ https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/682-The_Incredible_Proof_Machine logic rules can be added: https://github.com/nomeata/incredible/blob/master/examples/logics/predicate.yaml -- Alberto. -- You received this

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

constantly. All that shit is a post-hoc construction like many absurd histories that unworty universitary fools circulate around. 2015-09-01 19:00 GMT+02:00 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>: > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ​>

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

proved that, you fool? 2015-09-01 10:55 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>: > What most astonishes me of this modern world is how plain stupid nonsense > can become common sense by repetition if that serve the purpose to > denigrate the past. > > > ​>>

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

What most astonishes me of this modern world is how plain stupid nonsense can become common sense by repetition if that serve the purpose to denigrate the past. ​>> Aristotle ​ believed that heavy objects fell more quickly than light ones, *something that could have been easily disproved* *even

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

I don`t know the computation, but for sure that will you have the option of running it on Linux or Windows 2015-08-26 9:21 GMT+02:00 Peter Sas peterjacco...@gmail.com: Hi guys and girls, I'm sure this question has already come up many times before, but it's an important one, so I guess it

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

The parallels are astonishing: The Byzantines were materially and probably morally exhausted after the wars against the Sassanid empire in the 700 We are now morally exhausted after the cold war by the soviet directed leftist propaganda. Now the left, without some central guidance is running

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

over people conscious of their freedom and their history and identity. Their main target are the ones of us that still resist them. 2015-07-12 10:37 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: The parallels are astonishing: The Byzantines were materially and probably morally exhausted

Re: In case anyone's in doubt, Daniel Dennett thinks consciousness is an illusion

our brains are actively fooling us. Laughing out loudly This phrase condensated the swallowness of modern thinking (I would not dare to call it philosophy) if for the materialist monists, the brain determines the mind, who is the us in the phrase? they are assuming that there is another us that

Re: In case anyone's in doubt, Daniel Dennett thinks consciousness is an illusion

philosophy near you. I´m sure that you will find a lot of interesting things that would help you, particularly some rudiments for rigorous thinking. 2015-06-02 20:12 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: our brains are actively fooling us. Laughing out loudly This phrase condensated

Re: Samiya proved right

Seems to be Gaia flatulences 2015-05-28 11:22 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: Apparently the Last Trump is being heard around the world... http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/what-is-causing-the-strange-trumpet-sounds-in-the-sky-all-over-the-world -- You received this message

Re: Subsidies for fossil fuel - $5.3 trillion/year

That is like if you say: You cause most of my headaches therefore my insurance company is subsidizing you the analgesics that I take 2015-05-20 1:47 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com:

Re: Theories that explain everything explain nothing

Exatly. The title say all: Theories that explain everything, explain nothing and this is so obvious that all the rest is redundant. 2015-05-14 1:15 GMT+02:00 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au: As an aside to recent discussions, it is interesting to point out that physics has some of the

Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!

Have you read the weathergate mails? There you can see how the measures and the adjustments are done. taking into account that they systematically DENIED TO GIVE THE RAW DATA, the only thing that they demonstrate is a parapsychological power of so called scientists to influence the past depending

Re: Physicists Are Philosophers, Too

Even these poor positivists fools that say that Philosophy is dead don´t know that they are in fact doing Philosophy. But a very bad philosophy since they are doing philosophy without being conscious of it. In the other side, Plato did not mention that the ideas or models were in the mind of

Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!

. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, May 9, 2015 5:10 am Subject: Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism! The fiddling with temperature

Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!

There is no dictatorship that can not be erected upon lies and violence. And this one that comes is the worst of all history 2015-05-09 11:09 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news

Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!

Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even mean? If, for example, ghosts were real, then this would just mean that current scientific theories are incomplete or wrong. So what? -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: God

I pray to God for the grace of devoting to Him as much time as the average atheist 2015-05-02 10:47 GMT+02:00 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com: On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: Your

Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy

hours at least. Initially it is hard, but with practice It can be good for the phisical and mental healt. Try It! 2015-05-02 2:24 GMT+02:00 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au: On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 12:13:22AM +0200, Alberto G. Corona wrote: I have to say that these 440 persons

Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy

propaganda articles. SciAm is hardly unbiased, and basically has been more wrong than right, over the decades in its analysis. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, May 2, 2015 6:27 am Subject

Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy

by the Red-Greens, as an excuse to grab more power. Never let a good crisis go to waste. Is that seawater flooding your basement yet? Me, neither. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, May 2

Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy

I have to say that these 440 persons that die with solar energy is compensated by a similar number of skin cancer victims that are saved, since the entire surface of the country must be covered with solar panels so there is no way to receive sun rays. 2015-04-30 3:55 GMT+02:00 John Clark

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

Set theory is not about sets, but about deriving every other mathematics mathematical structures from sets. It is quite cumbresome and theoretical and does not use the natural mathematical intuitions. And thus it is not appropriate or teaching kids. And yet is is used for teaching since the

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

this is the conveyor belt of social mobility and this is dangerous for Us, the chosen ones. That way we will be safely above and they will be ever below. For their own good, of course. We only want to make a better world (Laughing out loud) 2015-05-01 9:14 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: Set

Re: God

economy with old Adolf's since it seems similar. Look at the Chinese billionaires, look at Russian oligarchs. Remember the ending to Animal Farm, from man to pig, and pig to man.. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list

Re: God

is likely a happy liberal (neocommunism), and all is well. Mitch * One exception to this mind set are the Gay Patriots, who take umbrage, at Sharia practioners, murdering their fellow gays in the middle east. A tiny spot of rationality there. -Original Message- From: Alberto G

Re: God

, and they did it. The supposed masacres of black people in the south where do you find your sources?. You are still poisoned by cold war propaganda. specially the ones that have passed trough the highly corrupt universities. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor

Re: God

Some atheists believe unconsciously (because their faith is not fully developped and conscious, and they avoid thinking about it in every way possible, in the same way that primitive people) in inmutable phisical laws like quantuum mechanics or Relativity in the same way that 100 years ago they

Re: Where are they?

Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. Boltzman committed suicide in part

Re: Where are they?

GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net: On 4/20/2015 3:51 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: * once day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning.* If it works for them why is it your problem? That is why modern people put his life at risk in extreme sports and so on: short term risk

Re: Where are they?

, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: What happens with the (unconscious) nominalists is that you fight the details while ignoring the categories. I have the least interest in discussing the life of Boltzmann or anyone. What is important for me is to stress that suicide and depression

Re: Origin of mathematics

of the colony is enough to synchronize the production of antigen etc. 2015-04-25 23:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 25 Apr 2015, at 15:50, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Mathematics may be the simplest rules that produce complexity that can be computed. ... and not computed. Always

Re: God

If you read just extracts and headlines, you will never understand the news. 2015-04-25 6:40 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: Someones like Paul Feyerabend are also for the separation of State and Science, which

Re: Origin of mathematics

Mathematics may be the simplest rules that produce complexity that can be computed. Reality may be the most complex game possible with the simplest rules possible, so that some elements can exist and live while responding to what happens around them. To live is to compute. If the rules of the

Re: God

Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: If you read just extracts and headlines, you will never understand the news. I agree, but I thought we were talking about a jackass by the name of Paul Feyerabend. John K Clark -- You

Re: God

2015-04-24 14:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: The problem is not capitalisme here, but the liars, and the absence of real separation between politics and media. Indeed. Someones like Paul Feyerabend are also for the separation of State and Science, which is something very

Re: God

is equivalent to harming myself On Wednesday, April 22, 2015, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: Poor nominalists... Ever what you call science and reason has claimed prevalence over religion has been to produce massacres, since 1789 and even before. the religion of the ones

Re: God

, im not a nominalist. These people like you are the ones that the world must fear Yes! Tremble! Mwhahahahaha! haha, there is nothing fear from me. My hands are tied, since I know harming others is equivalent to harming myself On Wednesday, April 22, 2015, Alberto G. Corona agocor

Re: God

Poor nominalists... Ever what you call science and reason has claimed prevalence over religion has been to produce massacres, since 1789 and even before. the religion of the ones that wave the flags of science and reason, that is, thae ones that claim knowledge without conscience that what they

Re: Interesting speculation: Could an advanced industrial civilization emerge again from a post-collapse earth?

I do not read this thread in detail but the people among you that do not understand that the reduction of workforce in agriculture to marginal levels while increasing many times the production has not been due to mechanical and crop engineering... you people have a serious problem understanding

Re: God

Bruno, I´m convinced that you are a larouchist: http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.PlatoAristotle I agree in that there are two sides depending on if they value the mind or the matter as the primary thing. I also line up with the mind side, but Aristotle has little to do in this

Re: Interesting speculation: Could an advanced industrial civilization emerge again from a post-collapse earth?

Then to hell with the land! You can't keep 7 billion people alive, much less happy, without both artificial fertilizer and monoculture. And that is what I mean when I say that modern environmentalists are not serious people. They are not serious, but they are not kidding. In fact they are totally

Re: Where are they?

The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. Boltzman committed suicide in part because his own theories of termodinamical dead of the universe more or less. Other people are influenced equally hard, but

Re: Where are they?

* once day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning.* That is why modern people put his life at risk in extreme sports and so on: short term risk evade from existential vacuum. 2015-04-20 12:49 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: The amazing thing is how what would happen

Re: Interesting speculation: Could an advanced industrial civilization emerge again from a post-collapse earth?

I also was member of Greenpeace, until I saw how corrupt this people was. Shortly after the creation, it was infiltrated by the reds. They became useful idiots. And what happens with people that lie and exaggerate is that they are the first victims of their own lies. Now these movements are clubs

Re: Food for thought

the rest of the sequence after receiving this segment. 2015-04-19 19:45 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: It sems that one image is worth a thousands Shakespeare books. Mathematics can tell you how much

Re: Food for thought

Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from the dawn of humans through the current century. It has been estimated that by 2020, the size of the world’s digital universe will be close to 44

Re: Interesting speculation: Could an advanced industrial civilization emerge again from a post-collapse earth?

which turn waste gases into a host of useful materials and energy. On 19 April 2015 at 11:07, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: I can't wait for my healthy solar car with pedals. By the way, In my small town I had a last generation bioprocessor that converted food waste

Re: Interesting speculation: Could an advanced industrial civilization emerge again from a post-collapse earth?

I can't wait for my healthy solar car with pedals. By the way, In my small town I had a last generation bioprocessor that converted food waste into meat and saussage. Below, front view of the device: http://globe-views.com/dcim/dreams/pig/pig-03.jpg 2015-04-18 20:27 GMT+02:00 'Chris de

Re: Mathematical Self-Reproduction

I can say the same : your english is better than average. I heard a few minutes up to now. Unfortunately I have no time to hear it now. 2015-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: Thanks Telmo. I have looked only to the 1/3 video. I am shocked myself by my accent, and I

Re: America: Bankrupt Living on Borrowed Time

Well, the mixed economy of a central bank that produces arbitrary paper money and big oligopolies of regulated, taxed and subsidized companies is not capitalism, but the mixed , social-democrat economy envisioned by Marx that would precede socialism, That is in the Comunist Manifesto, and Keynes

Re: America: Bankrupt Living on Borrowed Time

Inflation and deflation was precisely one of the mechanism envisioned by Marx /Keynes deprive people of their properties, so that the state would acquire all properties without the need to confiscatory laws. 2015-04-08 23:59 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: Well, the mixed

Re: America: Bankrupt Living on Borrowed Time

If the state take ownership of the central bank things would even be worse Inflation would skyrocket for obvious reasons. The problem is the fiat money, and fiat money is what Keyes and their socialist friends were after. 2015-04-09 0:03 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com

Re: SETI breakthrough: Project Durin Succeeds!

Succeed in what? in getting funds from some public institution, I suppose. Never saw something more absurd. In Cuba there are some universitary research on the power of the pyramids. I think that they may have some success in getting funds for these spheres. 2015-04-02 0:02 GMT+02:00 meekerdb

Re: [SPAM]Re: Economic inequality

I don´t believe in anything that SCIAM says except in hard sciences. And event in that I have my doubts These kind of publications lost their credibility time ago. Well, and many pseudoscience departments in the universities. They are nothing but propaganda organs driven by power and money Well

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

of different degrees of fanaticism 2015-04-01 10:53 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba and Venezuela as well as with ties with islamism. The basque terrorists in the 70s trained together with the Palestinian terrorists LPO (in the valley

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba and Venezuela as well as with ties with islamism. The basque terrorists in the 70s trained together with the Palestinian terrorists LPO (in the valley of the Becca) and with argelian communists. Please be informed. In the other side nobody says that

Re: Global Warming Hoax Confirmed

here comes the sun in the spring and here comes the warmist guys again 2015-04-01 22:38 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net: Forwarded Message Remember all that stuff we told you about 97% of scientists agreeing that climate change was real? And all those sad polar

Re: Life in the Islamic State for women

and deed would need to be suppressed. They do like modern weaponry, delivered into their hands by allah, to use against the Qufars (all of us). This now includes NBC weapons. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com

Re: Life in the Islamic State for women

I don´t know what to choose either the civilization of the horde of cavemen or the set of pseudo enlightened idiots that renegate of everything except themselves, that defecate over their ancestors and judge the world from the stratosphere in which they live, with little or no knowledge, maybe

Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: The left need some nuclear victim. It is not surprising for me how they live from the myths and propaganda of the cold war. No matter that it is no longer necessary to stop the West in his advance in nuclear technology to help the socialist

Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

The left need some nuclear victim. It is not surprising for me how they live from the myths and propaganda of the cold war. No matter that it is no longer necessary to stop the West in his advance in nuclear technology to help the socialist countries. They still are attached to the myths that the

Re: Transgressing the boundaries...

It seems that the fabian-gnostic apocalypticist sectarians that kidnapped Harward are preparing other possible apocalyptic alternatives just in case the favorite one is not convincing. Note that all the scenarios are due to the existence of human beings. 2015-03-21 3:45 GMT+01:00 meekerdb

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

all the time, such is natural selection. So their intellect grasp better the reality than the reality itself. 2015-03-19 21:45 GMT+01:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 20 March 2015 at 09:21, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: LizR: My descendants can not develop wings living

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

good or bad for what circunstances and for what unit of evolution in what amount of time? . If I say sexual reproduction is bad, because, mitosis is a delicate process that may fail and produce many problems. cloning is better because it is simpler. therefore natural selection do it wrong

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

LizR: My descendants can not develop wings living in mountains, even if wings permit us to move faster, this does not mean that natural selection do it wrong. Even if there are animals that fly. My descendants will not develop wings because my other traits forces to solve the problem of

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

to hide this fact 2015-03-19 15:29 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: good or bad for what circunstances and for what unit of evolution in what amount of time? . If I say sexual reproduction is bad, because, mitosis is a delicate process that may fail and produce many problems

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

I don´t know what you mean for the most of what you wrote, but jokes are not forbidden in serious discussion. Simply, jokes do not apply when the discussion is serious. But when someone says ridicule or absurd things seriously, that indeed is the most powerful source of humour known. Then there

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

Humor is destructive for sectarians. Humor is connected with a deep common sense of what is ridiculous and ridiculous is anything whose claims are against reality. It connects immediately with the inner sense of any other person. There is only two possible reactions: laugh or anger but the

Re: evangelizing robots

I can´t even enumerate the number of ways in which that article is wrong. First of all, any intelligent robot MUST have a religion in order to act in any way. A set of core beliefs. A non intelligent robot need them too: It is the set of constants. The intelligent robot can rewrite their

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

The Turing test is one of these over- overrated things that modern people worship. A child may not pass the test. And even an adolescent. and a simple program such Eliza could pass it in some way. And it means absolutely nothing. How modern people keep attached to myths fabricated and neglect

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

in the context of the times, as a first cut at defining AI. But as Alberto says we shouldn't have deified it or reified it (or whatever). On 1 February 2015 at 10:43, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: The Turing test is one of these over- overrated things that modern people

Re: Solomonoff Induction

It is difficult, since the original solomonoff theory of inductive inference about the next value of a sequence only says how to calculate the inference once we have obtained the set of algorithms that agree with the known part of the sequence. It say nothing about how to obtain the algorithms.

Re: The TPP

Spengler, in the decadence of the West says that societies are more like plants. 2015-01-29 22:05 GMT+01:00 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com: People worry that one day machines will take over, and we will become subservient slaves to their ends, that they will set the rules, control the

Knowledge is only possible in a symphony of force fields

Knowledge is only possible in a symphony of force fields http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ Some posts of this list that mix conscuousness with physics resembles me third age gurus. This at least is randomly generared by a program. -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are

Re: Manifesto Rex

Moreover, I think that you are inconsistent. If consciousness precedes everything including logic, truth existence etc. Then you can not demote what consciousness perceive to mere usefulness. Neiter you can call what is consciously perceived as false, and posit something unknown and external as

Re: Manifesto Rex

I used to think that way. If you examine previous posts, you will see my posts reasoning along these natural-selection lines (evolution is a very very bad name for natural selection). But now I think that this is incomplete. More or less your point of view is similar to the Konrad Lorentz when he

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

- The question of whether Machines Can Think... is about as relevant http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Relevant as the question of whether Submarines Can Swim. - Dijkstra (1984) The threats to computing science http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD898.html

Re: Democracy

cannabis permit the access to repressed UDA computations although not as much as salvia. So better build your car with cannabis and don't drive salvified 2015-01-12 18:23 GMT+01:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com: 2015-01-12 18:20 GMT+01:00 Platonist Guitar Cowboy

Re: Democracy

John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work. Neither work without some sincere love for what one does and for the well being of the client. trade without force need an utopic quantity of love. trade without

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 22:49 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: John, But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without enforcement of contracts does not work

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 23:12 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-10 22:10 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com

Re: Democracy

2015-01-10 23:52 GMT+01:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com: 2015-01-10 23:49 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 , Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: But trade need an environment where some force and some love are necessary. Trade without

Re: Evolution of pro-social religions

, then everyone will try to be a priest, and everywhere will be altars where sacrifices will be executed. The organized religion just tries to maximize the benefits and minimize the costs of the necessary sacrifices to build trust. 2015-01-04 14:50 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com

Re: Evolution of pro-social religions

There are previous evolutionary studies of religion leaded by David Sloan Wilson. I think that they only scratch the surface. But it is a good start. I wrote in this group about the need of human sacrifices to create an stable society if natural selection and game theory are accepted as

Re: Democracy

For me the reason of the failure of the USSR was so accelerated for the same reasons why other democracies are corrupted and degenerated, but while the democracies dismiss and erodes progressively the pre-political grounds that guarantee personal freedom, Comunism directly tries to eliminate such

Re: Democracy

in the same years was so little, that probably, without the nazi germany and the II world war it is possible that some form of socialist dictatorship would be now ruling the US and still we would call it democracy. Or perhaps popular democracy. 2015-01-03 16:21 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor

Re: Democracy

Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 02 Jan 2015, at 21:01, Alberto G. Corona wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy First, a reference to wikipedia is everything but an argument. Second, it looks like the athenian democracy. I just said that this is not democracy in the modern sense

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

, Alberto G. Corona wrote: You are projecting metaphisical differences into physical forces at the last steps. That does not make sense IMHO. The New Agers do the opposite. I think that this is an error typical of people with no education in physics and technology that are overexposed

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