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.com Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2019 8:59 pm Subject: Re: anrcho-libertarianism  Well said Lawrence I used to become pulled in to the churning (and pointless) vortex of politics, but life is far too short for that exercise in futility. Far better to open oneself instead to the transcendent ineffabl

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On Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 8:12:53 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 8:33 PM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > *> The situation is hopeless.* > > > Maybe, but I sure hope you're wrong! > > >> *> I correspond with someone who is a communist, and have gotten into >> some ar

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On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 8:33 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> The situation is hopeless.* Maybe, but I sure hope you're wrong! > *> I correspond with someone who is a communist, and have gotten into some > arguments.* I wouldn't be surprised if the Communist y

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> On 8 Jun 2019, at 02:32, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > The situation is hopeless. I correspond with someone who is a communist, and > have gotten into some arguments. The argument here, though the words are > different, has much the same sort of thinking. Politics in general is a sort > of

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 Well said Lawrence I used to become pulled in to the churning (and pointless) vortex of politics, but life is far too short for that exercise in futility. Far better to open oneself instead to the transcendent ineffable experience of the many wonders of life and of the immediate impactful e

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

The situation is hopeless. I correspond with someone who is a communist, and have gotten into some arguments. The argument here, though the words are different, has much the same sort of thinking. Politics in general is a sort of brain infection that causes neuron to seize up when any cognitive

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> On 6 Jun 2019, at 19:34, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 6/5/2019 6:04 PM, John Clark wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' >> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> >Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? >> >> They ma

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from the Jews? * > If only the Nazi PPA was allowed to collect taxes then it wouldn't be a PPA it would be a government. The entire point of anrcho-libertarianism is you don't pay taxes you voluntarily pay fees. It would be like deciding to join Netflix except that instead of decidin

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On 6/6/2019 3:53 PM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: >> There will be a Private Protection Agency  protecting Jews and if there is another one that is trying to kill them then

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On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> There will be a Private Protection Agency protecting Jews and if there >> is another one that is trying to kill them then the employees of both >> agencies will have very dangerous jobs and bot

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On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 12:34:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/5/2019 6:04 PM, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > >> * >Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? * >> > > They make laws, force people to

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On 6/5/2019 6:04 PM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker'  > wrote: />Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? / They make laws, force people to pay taxes ,conscript them into their army. and give people no choice.

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Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2019 10:32 am Subject: Re: anrcho-libertarianism On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:52 AM Telmo Menezes wrote:   >> If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person could >> choose which corporation t

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am Subject: Re: anrcho-libertarianism On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:17 AM 'Brent Meeker'  wrote: > Capitalism assumes that one can own things, especially money.  But without > government to adjudicate and enforce claims of ownership, you couldn't own > any more than you

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > * >Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? * > They make laws, force people to pay taxes ,conscript them into their army. and give people no choice. It sure sounds like a government to me. > * > Of

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tect us from them.  And I just don't see any scenario under anrcho-libertarianism were it would be possible for 40 million Germans to murder 6 million Jews. That's because you can't imagine the anarcho-libertarians being persuaded the the Jews were plotting against them and were r

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on is what system best protect us from them. And I just don't see any scenario under anrcho-libertarianism were it would be possible for 40 million Germans to murder 6 million Jews. John K Clark > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &q

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On 6/5/2019 6:15 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: /> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about formin

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 16:32, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:52 AM Telmo Menezes > wrote: >> If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person could choose which corporation to buy police protection from

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> On 5 Jun 2019, at 15:52, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 15:16, John Clark wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell >> mailto:goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> > corp

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On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:16:03 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about >> forming a government

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:32 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> I have read a version of this argument first in "The Machinery of > Freedom" by David Friedman, and I found it quite compelling. * > Me too. *> The problem is that rational actors qiuckly find the power of scale effects, thus corporations

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> that was being payed by 6 million Jews to merge with a PPA that was being > payed by 40 million Germans that want to murder them? A Jew would be willing > to pay whatever it took, up to and including his entire net worth, to keep > from getting murdered, but I doubt if even the most rab

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murder them? A Jew would be willing to pay whatever it took, up to and including his entire net worth, to keep from getting murdered, but I doubt if even the most rabid anti semite would pay more than 1 or 2% to murder a Jew. In anrcho-libertarianism you can have much more influence with things

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 15:16, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > >> *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about >> forming a government to provide a p

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the > corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about > forming a government to provide a platform, a coherent set of law

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:17 AM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *Capitalism assumes that one can own things, especially money. But > without government to adjudicate and enforce claims of ownership, you > couldn't own any more than you could carry on your back at a dea

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On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 12:17:35 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/4/2019 4:29 PM, John Clark wrote: > > If we were starting from scratch I would suggest Anarcho-Capitalism, I > think it would be far superior to democracy, but unfortunately we are not > starting from scratch and so it wou

anrcho-libertarianism

On 6/4/2019 4:29 PM, John Clark wrote: If we were starting from scratch I would suggest Anarcho-Capitalism, I think it would be far superior to democracy, but unfortunately we are not starting from scratch and so it would be very difficult to get there from here;  but don't let the word "anar