Dear Stephen,
On 14 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/14/2012 4:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Dear Bruno,
My claim is that the phrase that you used above ...we agree
that for all is just another way of thinking of my
definition of reality as That which is
Hi everybody,
I need to catch up with some of you. I've been offline for a
few days because of computer problems and even thought
I had lost all of my email. But the recover feature of
Windows 7 works like a charm even though you thought you had
lost the whole OS and wondered if you still had
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The evidence of a Big Bang is enormous. See, for example:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html
Hi Roger,
I invite you to read James P. Hogan's /Kicking the Sacred Cow/
Hi Stephen Hawking,
So quantum gravity was designed and created by
mindless, random, brute forces ? Or came out
of nothing at all, not even intelligence, not even
an idea or form ? Not even the tooth fairy ?
This nonsense you apparently believe shows
that materialistic thinking can cause brain
Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, Berkeley's solopsism is impossible to disprove,
so your theory that perception causes existence holds.
But, forgive me, how do you know that there are other people
to report your findings to ? We could all be chimeras.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Hi Craig Weinberg
Everything has at least some intelligence or consciousness, according to
Leibniz's metaphysics,
even rocks. But these bare naked monads are essentially in deep, drugged
sleep and darkness,
or at best drunk. Leibniz called such a state the unconscious way before Freud
and
Hi Roger Clough,
As you have been told, quantum gravity is contained within each string
theory monad.
No one knows where that came from, certainly not any god that humans
are connected to.
Richard
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Stephen Hawking,
So
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
12 tone music can be refreshing for a while but I soon get bored.
On the other hand, Stravinksy and many others can do exciting
things with dissonance. The Firebird Suite and the Rites of Spring
enhance this marvellously with dance.
[Roger Clough],
Hi Roger,
I'm not trying to convince you to listen to 12-tone music, as it is even
misleading to talk about is as a unified whole = every composer that uses
these tools and their funky harmonic logic approaches them differently.
And composers have been doing this since in some form or the other
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If he's a devout Muslim he believes he will go to heaven with 77 virgins
when he pushes that button, but as I said I really don't care what he
believes will happen, I care about what will happen.
That was my point. What happen
Hi Richard Ruquist
That's just my point. You can't have quantum gravity
unless it emerged from mind ior universal intelligence.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
- Receiving
Hi Richard Ruquist and Bruno,
There is (infinite) regress in physical nature, but not in mind, because
mind is non-existent (not created).
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
- Receiving the following content
Hi Richard Ruquist
Call it what you want, but anything existent exists according
to some pre-existing physical rules etc. Some Cosmic intelligence.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
- Receiving the following
Hi Evgenii Rudnyi
Perhaps strings might better model materials and their behavior
than current chemistry and materials science can. And
suggest the possibioity of creating new materials (composistes) as well
as explaining little understood materials phenomena.
[Roger Clough],
Hi Stephen P. King and Bruno,
Perhaps these problems below fade away if you think
of numbers in this way:
In the beginning were the numbers
and the numbers were with Mind and
the numbers were Mind.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the
Hi Stephen P. King
Truth or mind or numbers or life or intelligence
is the ultimate primitive. They are what
the spacetime universe and man emerged from ultimately.
This is called downward causation.
In the beginning were the numbers
and the numbers were with Mind
and the numbers were Mind.
Hi Stephen P. King
But many minds are in agreement that God exists, so that must be true ?
And must unicorns exist because I believe that they do ?
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
- Receiving the following
Hi Stephen P. King
Infinity is not communicable.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/15/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
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From: Stephen P. King
Receiver: everything-list
Time: 2012-11-03, 12:33:49
Subject:
Hi Stephen P. King
He's got his work cut out for him, not so much as casting doubt
on other's theories, but in explaining all of the data obtained with
alternate theorie. In which case, the Big Bang
simply happened another way than that taught.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
On 15.11.2012 17:10 Roger Clough said the following:
Hi Evgenii Rudnyi
Perhaps strings might better model materials and their behavior than
current chemistry and materials science can. And suggest the
possibioity of creating new materials (composistes) as well as
explaining little understood
On 11/15/2012 11:06 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
No connection, I was just looking at the meaning of
the Diophantine equations. Their meanings as categories possibly.
Ie, can numbers be categorized by the D eqns they fit ?
If some numbers fit these equations , do they have some
On 11/15/2012 11:18 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King and Bruno,
Perhaps these problems below fade away if you think
of numbers in this way:
In the beginning were the numbers
and the numbers were with Mind and
the numbers were Mind.
Dear Roger,
In the Beginning was the Word, and
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:42:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Everything has at least some intelligence or consciousness, according to
Leibniz's metaphysics,
even rocks. But these bare naked monads are essentially in deep,
drugged sleep and darkness,
or at
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36:44 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, Berkeley's solopsism is impossible to disprove,
so your theory that perception causes existence holds.
But, forgive me, how do you know that there are other people
to report your findings to ? We
On 11/15/2012 6:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The evidence of a Big Bang is enormous. See, for example:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html
Hi Roger,
I invite you to read James P. Hogan's /Kicking the
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
There is no mathematical justification for geometry though that I can
think of.
There are ways that numbers can describe geometry and ways that geometry
can describe numbers. What more do you need?
So the fact that
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Leibniz thought that everything needs a sufficient reason to exist as it
does.
And we now know that Leibniz was DEAD WRONG about that, we now know that
some things happen for no reason whatsoever. And in general that's
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 05:20:14AM -0600, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The evidence of a Big Bang is enormous. See, for example:
Of course, but the big bang is not the same thing as the beginning of
the universe.
Also, the cosmic microwave background, which is the direct
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 08:55:10AM +1100, Russell Standish wrote:
Actually, according to Wikipedia:
Though the universe might in theory have a longer history, the
International Astronomical Union [4] presently use age of the
universe to mean the duration of the Lambda-CDM expansion, or
On 11/15/2012 11:27 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
But many minds are in agreement that God exists, so that must be true ?
Hi Roger,
In my proposed definitions, must only follows if and only if
there is no accessible possible world where a contraindication of the
agreement
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:43:03 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
There is no mathematical justification for geometry though that I can
think of.
There are ways that numbers can describe geometry
On 11/15/2012 11:28 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Mind is the fundamental nonphysical primitive out of which all
physical things
were created and which governs them.
Dear Roger,
That implies a subtle contradiction as the postulation of mind as
primitive implies that its
On 11/15/2012 11:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
He's got his work cut out for him, not so much as casting doubt
on other's theories, but in explaining all of the data obtained with
alternate theorie. In which case, the Big Bang
simply happened another way than that taught.
Dear
On 11/15/2012 3:39 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The evidence of a Big Bang is enormous. See, for example:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html
Hi Roger,
I invite you
On 11/15/2012 5:07 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 3:39 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The evidence of a Big Bang is enormous. See, for example:
On 11/15/2012 7:42 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 5:07 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 3:39 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The evidence of a Big Bang is enormous. See, for
On 11/15/2012 6:55 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 7:42 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 5:07 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 3:39 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno and Russell,
The
On 11/15/2012 8:21 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:55 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 7:42 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 5:07 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 3:39 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:41 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 11/15/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough
On 11/15/2012 8:05 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
?? Speaking without permission of the judge may be illegal in open court. Why is that
the standard for anything?
If you think Hogan has some insight into cosmology, let's hear it. I'm certainly not
going to waste my money on his book.
My
On 11/15/2012 9:09 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2012 8:05 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
?? Speaking without permission of the judge may be illegal in open
court. Why is that the standard for anything?
If you think Hogan has some insight into cosmology, let's hear it.
I'm certainly not going
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