Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:55:59PM -0400, John Clark wrote: > > If so and consciousness is a all or nothing matter and is not on a > continuum then you should vividly remember the very instant you went to > sleep last night. Do you? > Why? I don't remember every waking moment when I'm fully aler

Re: Moslem peace march ?

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > Original Buddhism and Hindu Sankhya are atheistic religions. > No, originally they were atheistic philosophies without dogma; their main concern was how to be happy not how the universe worked. But unfortunately they've changed. John K

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > There is an entire field of physics, for example, dedicated to studying > emergence in a rigorous fashion > True, and the key word is " rigorous" and that means knowing the details. > > Cellular automata show how simple local rules can giv

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Re: Moslem peace march ?

Original Buddhism and Hindu Sankhya are atheistic religions. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John Clark wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the

Re: Moslem peace march ?

On 4/21/2013 1:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John Clark > wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> wrote: >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On 4/21/2013 6:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Plato and Aristotle discovered and shaped the modern science. No, it was Democritus. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: Moslem peace march ?

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet >>> Uranus? There is not a scrap of evidence indicating the existence of such a >>> teapot nor is there anything proving

Re: Scientific journals

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:15:02 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >>> >>> I do. >>> >> >> Then you're conception of aesthetics is more limited than tha

Re: Scientific journals

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 21 Apr 2013, at 16:41, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 20 Apr 2013, at 19:15, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: >> >> >> >> Then you're conception of aesthetics is

Re: Hard Problem not hard at all?

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:49:04 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Bruno Marchal > > wrote: > > >> The reason nobody has a answer to the hard problem is that nobody has >> clearly explained exactly what the problem is or what the answer is >> expected to do. >

Re: Scientific journals

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:35:44 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2013, at 15:28, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:46:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 19 Apr 2013, at 17:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, April 19, 2013 9:49:35

Re: Improving The Hard Problem

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:45:39 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2013, at 13:46, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 19, 2013 11:46:25 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 19 Apr 2013, at 13:56, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> Qualia are generated, >> >> >> With comp

Re: Hard Problem not hard at all?

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:20:21 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2013, at 23:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:51:23 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 20 Apr 2013, at 17:56, meekerdb wrote: >> >> > On 4/20/2013 2:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: > Hi Telmo, Hi Stephen, great moustache! > Could it be that, as usual, each of us are using a different dictionary of > definitions of words? What is "science", what is "religion".. Round and > round we go! I'm not sure I agree that'

Re: Moslem peace march ?

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet >> Uranus? There is not a scrap of evidence indicating the existence of such a >> teapot nor is there anything proving its nonexistence, so are you a teapot >> atheist or a teapot

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 21 Apr 2013, at 02:14, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Telmo Menezes >>> wrote: >>> >>> You may be pedantic about the use of anthropomorphic lan

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

Hi Telmo, Could it be that, as usual, each of us are using a different dictionary of definitions of words? What is "science", what is "religion".. Round and round we go! ISTM that consciousness per se is completely and totally 1p and anything that involves reporting on its content is not consc

Re: Scientific journals

On 21 Apr 2013, at 16:41, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Apr 2013, at 19:15, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: Then you're conception of aesthetics is more limited than that of old Greeks who saw number relations giving ris

Re: Scientific journals

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Apr 2013, at 19:15, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > Then you're conception of aesthetics is more limited than that of old > Greeks who saw number relations giving rise to beauty ( => computing > results in aesthetic experienc

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On 21 Apr 2013, at 02:14, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: You may be pedantic about the use of anthropomorphic language but I am not. It can become distracting / misleading in deeper discu

Re: Scientific journals

On 20 Apr 2013, at 15:28, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:46:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Apr 2013, at 17:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, April 19, 2013 9:49:35 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 14:01, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thur

Re: Hard Problem not hard at all?

On 20 Apr 2013, at 23:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:51:23 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Apr 2013, at 17:56, meekerdb wrote: > On 4/20/2013 2:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> On 20 Apr 2013, at 05:26, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 4/19/2013 5:31 PM, John Clark w

Re: Moslem peace march ?

On 20 Apr 2013, at 23:05, meekerdb wrote: On 4/20/2013 12:16 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Then a majority of atheist believes in Matter. That has been introduced as an hypothesis by Aristotle (although he appears to be unclear in some passage), I don't know why you keep attributing the beli

Re: The Uses of a Screwdriver Cannot be Listed Algorithmically

On 20 Apr 2013, at 22:04, John Mikes wrote: Evgeniy: although I had my disagreements with Stuart dating back to prior to the 1997 Nashua Conference, I have to agree here. Turing was a great mind, his ideas leading to our (embryonic, binary) computing machine are great, it is not the ultimate

Re: Hard Problem not hard at all?

On 20 Apr 2013, at 21:50, John Mikes wrote: Brent and Bruno: Brent I love you for your scientific self-consciousness: "I'm not so sure of the problem, but I'm pretty sure of the solution." That's the 'end' of all. Religions like it. Here is what I see as the (hard problem) problem: people like

Re: The Uses of a Screwdriver Cannot be Listed Algorithmically

On 20 Apr 2013, at 21:38, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I am reading now Beyond Mechanism: Putting Life back into Biology. In Foreword: Evolution beyond Newton, Darwin, and Entailing Law, Stuart A. Kauffman writes: p. 9 "Here is the first 'strange' step. Can you name all the uses of a screwdrive

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

On 20 Apr 2013, at 13:51, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:15:17 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Apr 2013, at 19:52, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, April 19, 2013 9:59:34 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 22:05, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thur

Re: Improving The Hard Problem

On 20 Apr 2013, at 13:46, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, April 19, 2013 11:46:25 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Apr 2013, at 13:56, Craig Weinberg wrote: Qualia are generated, With comp the qualia are not generated. They are arithmetical truth seen from some point of view. They