Evgenii,
On 05 Feb 2012, at 14:41, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I would agree that profit should be a tool. On the other hand it is
working this way. There are rules of a game that are adjusted by the
government accordingly and then what is not not forbidden is
allowed. In such a setup, if a ne
On 05 Feb 2012, at 21:32, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/5/2012 8:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
No. All universal numbers can interpret a number as a function on
quantities, or as properties on quantities, which are not
quantities themselves. Universal numbers can also transform, or
interpret numbe
arXiv:1202.0720v1 [physics.hist-ph]
Abstract
It is argued that it is possible to give operational meaning to free
will and
the process of making a choice without employing metaphysics.
comments?
Ronald
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On Jan 31, 4:44 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> When we close our eyes, we still see visual noise, even in total
> darkness. If qualia were based on computation, we should expect that
> no sensory input should equate to total blackness, since there is no
> information to report.
No we shouldn't. Tr
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 05 Feb 2012, at 17:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
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>
>
> Talk with them, meaning internal dialogue?
>
>
> Public dialog. Like in Boolos 79 and Boolos 93. But the earlier form
>
> of the dialog is Gödel 1931.
>
> Solovay 1976 shows that th
On Feb 3, 11:13 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> On Feb 3, 4:16 pm, John Clark wrote:
> > Photoshop can paint a smooth image therefore computers can never be
> > intelligent or conscious. Of course, I see the light at last, its all so
> > obvious now that you point out that vital fact! Why oh why d
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote:
> > The only understanding of Chinese going on is by those Chinese speakers
> outside the room who are carrying on a one-sided conversation with a rule
> book.
So you say, but Searle says his idiotic thought experiment has PROVEN it;
and yet one key s
On Feb 6, 12:12 pm, ronaldheld wrote:
> arXiv:1202.0720v1 [physics.hist-ph]
>
> Abstract
> It is argued that it is possible to give operational meaning to free
> will and
> the process of making a choice without employing metaphysics.
>
> comments?
> Ronald
I am
On 06 Feb 2012, at 16:54, John Clark wrote:
Well it had better be! If the outside world could be anything we
wanted it to be then our senses would be of no value and Evolution
would never have had a reason to develop them. In reality if we
project our wishes on how we interpret the inform
I think entropy is better intuitively understood as uncertanty. The
entropy of a gas is the uncertanty of the particle positions and
velocities. The hotter it is the more uncertanties there are. A
certain amount of information is required to eliminate this uncertanty.
Jason
On Feb 5, 20
Informational laws and physical laws are, in my mind, closely
related. Laws related to information seem to supercede physical law.
For example, the impossibility of encoding information in fewer
symbols or trying to send more over a channel in a given time period,
than allowed. There is
On Feb 6, 4:55 pm, Jason Resch wrote:
> Informational laws and physical laws are, in my mind, closely
> related. Laws related to information seem to supercede physical law.
> For example, the impossibility of encoding information in fewer
> symbols or trying to send more over a channel in a gi
Hi Jason,
On 06 Feb 2012, at 14:51, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 05 Feb 2012, at 17:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Talk with them, meaning internal dialogue?
Public dialog. Like in Boolos 79 and Boolos 93. But the earlier form
of the dial
On 2/6/2012 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 05 Feb 2012, at 21:32, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/5/2012 8:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
No. All universal numbers can interpret a number as a function on quantities, or as
properties on quantities, which are not quantities themselves. Universal numbers ca
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:12 AM, ronaldheld wrote:
> An agent in possession of free will is able to perform an action that was
> possible to predict by nobody but the agent itself.
>
There are a number of things wrong with this:
1) In theory there is no reason to think that the agent would be be
On Feb 6, 6:39 pm, John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:12 AM, ronaldheld wrote:
> > An agent in possession of free will is able to perform an action that was
> > possible to predict by nobody but the agent itself.
>
> There are a number of things wrong with this:
>
> 1) In theory there
On 2/6/2012 4:12 AM, ronaldheld wrote:
arXiv:1202.0720v1 [physics.hist-ph]
Abstract
It is argued that it is possible to give operational meaning to free
will and
the process of making a choice without employing metaphysics.
comments?
Ronald
Whether it is oper
On 05.02.2012 22:33 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:47PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
The most funny it looks in the conclusion
p. 28(142) "First, all notions of entropy discussed in this essay,
except the thermodynamic and the topological entropy, can be
unde
On 05.02.2012 22:46 Russell Standish said the following:
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 08:56:10PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
First, we have not to forget the Third Law that states that the
change in entropy in any reaction, as well its derivatives, goes
to zero as the temperatures goes to zero Kelv
On 05.02.2012 23:05 Russell Standish said the following:
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 08:50:40PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I guess that you have never done a lab in experimental
thermodynamics. There are classical experiment where people
measure heat of combustion, heat capacity, equilibrium pres
On 2/6/2012 9:03 AM, 1Z wrote:
There is also a "conservation" of information. It is
> apparently industrictable.
Is there? if there is , it is a phsycial law, and AFAIK it is hotly
debated.
It's the same as the question of wave-function collapse. QM without collapse is
time-reversible a
On 06.02.2012 17:44 Jason Resch said the following:
I think entropy is better intuitively understood as uncertanty. The
entropy of a gas is the uncertanty of the particle positions and
velocities. The hotter it is the more uncertanties there are. A
certain amount of information is required to eli
On 2/6/2012 11:18 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 05.02.2012 22:33 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:47PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
The most funny it looks in the conclusion
p. 28(142) "First, all notions of entropy discussed in this essay,
except the thermodyn
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 08:36:44PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 05.02.2012 23:05 Russell Standish said the following:
> >
> >The context is there - you will just have to look for it. I rather
> >suspect that use of these tables refers to homogenous bulk samples
> >of the material, in thermal e
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 05.02.2012 22:46 Russell Standish said the following:
> >On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 08:56:10PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> >>
> >>In this respect your question is actually nice, as now, I believe,
> >>we see that it is possible to
On Feb 6, 7:12 am, ronaldheld wrote:
> arXiv:1202.0720v1 [physics.hist-ph]
>
> Abstract
> It is argued that it is possible to give operational meaning to free
> will and
> the process of making a choice without employing metaphysics.
>
> comments?
It depends if you consider biology metaphysical.
On Feb 6, 9:18 am, 1Z wrote:
> On Feb 3, 11:13 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> > On Feb 3, 4:16 pm, John Clark wrote:
> > > Photoshop can paint a smooth image therefore computers can never be
> > > intelligent or conscious. Of course, I see the light at last, its all so
> > > obvious now that you
On Feb 6, 10:37 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 05 Feb 2012, at 20:10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> > I'm not lowering subst level at all, I'm saying that subst level is an
> > indexical.
>
> ?
That's what you aren't getting about my position. Substitution level
is not a scalar variable.
>
>
>
> >>>
On 2/6/2012 06:25, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi ACW,
On 2/4/2012 1:53 PM, acw wrote:
One can wonder what is the most "general" theory that we can postulate
to explain our existence. Tegmark postulates all of consistent
mathematics, whatever that is, but is 'all of consistent mathematics'
consiste
On 2/6/2012 3:50 PM, acw wrote:
I'm not so sure to term ``body'' is as meaningful if we consider the extremes which seem
possible in COMP. After a digital substitution, a body could very well be some software
running somewhere, on any kind of substrate, with an arbitrary time-frame/ordering (as
On 2/7/2012 00:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/6/2012 3:50 PM, acw wrote:
I'm not so sure to term ``body'' is as meaningful if we consider the
extremes which seem possible in COMP. After a digital substitution, a
body could very well be some software running somewhere, on any kind
of substrate, with an
On Feb 6, 9:48 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> On Feb 6, 7:12 am, ronaldheld wrote:
>
> > arXiv:1202.0720v1 [physics.hist-ph]
>
> > Abstract
> > It is argued that it is possible to give operational meaning to free
> > will and
> > the process of making a choice without employing metaphysics.
>
> >
On 2/6/2012 5:37 PM, acw wrote:
On 2/7/2012 00:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/6/2012 3:50 PM, acw wrote:
I'm not so sure to term ``body'' is as meaningful if we consider the
extremes which seem possible in COMP. After a digital substitution, a
body could very well be some software running somewhere,
On 2/7/2012 05:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/6/2012 5:37 PM, acw wrote:
On 2/7/2012 00:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/6/2012 3:50 PM, acw wrote:
I'm not so sure to term ``body'' is as meaningful if we consider the
extremes which seem possible in COMP. After a digital substitution, a
body could very well
On 2/6/2012 9:55 PM, acw wrote:
On 2/7/2012 05:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/6/2012 5:37 PM, acw wrote:
On 2/7/2012 00:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/6/2012 3:50 PM, acw wrote:
I'm not so sure to term ``body'' is as meaningful if we consider the
extremes which seem possible in COMP. After a digital subs
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