On Apr 3, 3:20 am, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> > > qualia are not inevitably associated with
On Apr 2, 9:39 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> > > > >>> If all movement was involuntary in the
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On Apr 2, 9:41 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> > > If all movement was involuntary in the
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On 02 Apr 2012, at 18:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/2/2012 7:14 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
If all movement was involuntary in the
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On Apr 3, 3:12 am, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> > But the experiment didn't show there was more or less free will. It didn't
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> > there was any free will. It just showed that inducing a belief in free
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On 02 Apr 2012, at 18:14, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> you've added tons of bells and whistles but for all the complex
convolutions you have not added one single bit of additional
information about what is likely to happen.
> On the contrary, comp entai
On 02 Apr 2012, at 18:40, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/2/2012 9:14 AM, John Clark wrote:
> If Everett is right the probability must be derived from the
statistics of measurements *as described by the wave evolution*.
If Everett is right then you can use the square of the absolute
value of the
On 03 Apr 2012, at 02:06, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Craig Weinberg
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From blindsight, synesthesia, and anosognosia we know that particular
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represent for us, so it seems impossible to
On Apr 2, 11:22 pm, meekerdb wrote:
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> >> But the experiment didn't show there was more or less free will. It
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On Apr 3, 5:04 am, 1Z wrote:
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On Apr 3, 5:07 am, 1Z wrote:
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> > > Why not? If the brain is deterministic then beliefs are deterministic
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> > The belief is about the power to self determine though. The
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On Apr 3, 5:27 am, 1Z wrote:
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> > > But the experiment didn't show there was more or less free will. It
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> > Performance in what though? Readiness to exe
On Apr 2, 11:29 pm, meekerdb wrote:
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> >> I like Julian Jaynes idea that it is a side-effect of using the same parts
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On Apr 2, 11:21 pm, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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> >> Dick could have the same doubts about any medical treatment short of
> >> total brain replacement. Perhaps taking perindopril for hypertension
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> > The "same" doubts? Really?
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> If philosophical zombies are p
On 4/3/2012 11:03 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Apr 2, 11:21 pm, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Dick could have the same doubts about any medical treatment short of
total brain replacement. Perhaps taking perindopril for hypertension
turns people into zombies.
The "same" doubts? Really?
If philo
On 03.04.2012 02:06 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
From blindsight, synesthesia, and anosognosia we know that particular
qualia are not inevitably associated with the conditions they usually
represent for us, so it seems impossibl
On 03.04.2012 05:29 meekerdb said the following:
On 4/2/2012 7:28 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Apr 2, 9:02 pm, meekerdb wrote:
I like Julian Jaynes idea that it is a side-effect of using the same
parts of the brain
for cogitation as are used for perception. That would be the kind of
thing that
On Apr 3, 3:56 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 03.04.2012 02:06 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
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> >> From blindsight, synesthesia, and anosognosia we know that particular
> >> qualia are not inevitably asso
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> The point is that comp predicts white noise. That something else predicts
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So in the setup the screen changes at RANDOM and comp predicts white noise
will be the most likely result, and you t
On 04 Apr 2012, at 06:05, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Bruno Marchal
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> The point is that comp predicts white noise. That something else
predicts white noise too is not relevant in the proof.
So in the setup the screen changes at RANDOM and comp predicts w
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